To those of you being condescending in your responses ~ are you always such b*tches or are your hormones to blame? How about you realize that this may be the first pregnancy for some people and questions that may sound dumb to you are just things on another person's mind? Also, I am fairly certain none of you rude ones are doctors (I'm certain you would have mentioned it otherwise), so stop acting like you can give medical advice based on your googling capability. Probably the same aholes that don't vaccinate (yep I went there).
@KimmyAshworth Who cares if it's 'real' or not, either way I'm happy you're enjoying your pregnancy
If I posted a large post on the scientific consensus, why would you assume I won't vaccinate? Strange logic.
To those of you being condescending in your responses ~ are you always such b*tches or are your hormones to blame? How about you realize that this may be the first pregnancy for some people and questions that may sound dumb to you are just things on another person's mind? Also, I am fairly certain none of you rude ones are doctors (I'm certain you would have mentioned it otherwise), so stop acting like you can give medical advice based on your googling capability. Probably the same aholes that don't vaccinate (yep I went there).
@KimmyAshworth Who cares if it's 'real' or not, either way I'm happy you're enjoying your pregnancy
"If I posted a large post on the scientific consensus, why would you assume I won't vaccinate? Strange logic."
You missed my point ~ stop trying to act like you're a doctor because you know how to google.
No, but I do know about the scientific method and how it works so I am able to distinguish between single studies and scientific consensus. That's my job as a parent and a critically thinking adult. That vaccination thing? That's a scientific consensus and I can see it easily because it's the overwhelming advice from professionals and scientifically respected groups. The overwhelming advice from professionals is movement starts in the 2nd Tri. If you can provide me a registered and scientifically respected professional alliance (like the AMA) that says movement is expected in the 1st Tri, then I will be happy to concede the point (not sarcasm).
Your OBs opinion (someone who I know only anecdotally through the Internet) is not a respected source of information unless you can refer to their scientific published works in a peer reviewed journal.
Let me be clear, I am not trying to be condescending or make you feel less excited about your pregnancy and the changes you feel. It's awesome! However, this is the established process of how medicine and any other science works. I didn't make it up and I'm not telling you not to talk to your doctor but I will tell you if you say something blatantly unrealistic, scientifically speaking.
So if I didn't know how to google, I would be okay to act like I'm a doctor?
Dr Google, actually, can be pretty helpful IF you visit reputable sites. In my classes, we were encouraged to used Google Scholar to research scientific articles. It's just another search platform that, if used correctly, can be beneficial.
If OP thought she could feel her baby moving, great! She's lucky to have that reassurance so readily available. I couldn't feel it, even when we scanned it and saw it bouncing. I'll just have to keep my fingers crossed that it's a healthy, sticky bean until my next scan.
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but it does not help you or your argument to be defensive, judgemental, and rude. To make the assumption that just because I don't believe OP, I will not vaccinate my child is asinine. That wasn't even a part of the discussion until you brought it forward.
I'll just stick with the scientific research, my education, and common sense. If, in the future, more studies are conducted and a professional consensus is reached about the possibility of feeling embryonic movement, I would love to read the research articles and literature reviews. Until then, I'll stick with what my professors (many of them MDs) have taught me and what I've researched on my own. To each their own.
@SrMaryNapalm I wasn't expecting you to be impressed by the tiny amount of research I conducted on my 30 minute lunch break. I actually genuinely posted it for the benefit of one of the PPs who was curious (if you look back at my post you will see that I said that). I appreciate that you took the time to do your own research and it is also interesting and is certainly in line with common knowledge. I have always said (and please go back to my original post to see if you do not believe me) that to feel movement would be very rare, not the expected norm, which is what your links and articles seems to cover.
This is the last time I will post here because I think that everyone in this BMB wishes this post would die, but none so more than me.
Thank you for taking the time to respond like an adult and speak (type) to me I'm a way that illustrated respect and common courtesy.
To those of you being condescending in your responses ~ are you always such b*tches or are your hormones to blame? How about you realize that this may be the first pregnancy for some people and questions that may sound dumb to you are just things on another person's mind? Also, I am fairly certain none of you rude ones are doctors (I'm certain you would have mentioned it otherwise), so stop acting like you can give medical advice based on your googling capability. Probably the same aholes that don't vaccinate (yep I went there).
@KimmyAshworth Who cares if it's 'real' or not, either way I'm happy you're enjoying your pregnancy
A) You're new, so I'll clue you in... name calling is a no no.
Do NOT blame hormones for females having opinions. It's a disservice to women anywhere, and I'd personally like to thank you for setting feminism back. Cool move
C) People who base their bump knowledge on science are NOT the "same a-holes" who don't vaccinate. We do science. We're smart. We vaccinate. Not one single person will be impressed that you "went there."
Lurk before you start popping off at the mouth and attacking intelligent, experienced, established community members giving sound, scientific advice. They're not the ones who come out of this argument looking like they need to read more.
Hey @cmerribury .... i saw your post a few days ago and skimmed past it but wanted to let you know i am almost 11 weeks and have felt some muscle twitches in my lower abdomen that resemble the first light flutters i felt with my daughter. I felt those at 13 weeks with her. I know its not gas and i am very in tune with my body. While i think 9 weeks could be a little early, i definitely am with you on feeling early movement. Take care! Enjoy your flutters and connecting with your baby!
Legit curious... does getting pregnant automatically make you "very in tune with your body?" How does that work? What does that even mean?
I know wine gives me headaches, burritos make me gassy, and not enough fiber in my diet gives me some really grouchy bellyaches. Does that mean I'm in tune with my body too?
Wish the bump would close this thread!
Geez enough now.
I really was/ am just curious when I get to start saying I'm super in tune with my body. Can I now because I'm a 30 year old woman who temps and charts her ovulation and cycle days and sees her doctor regularly, trying to get pregnant, or do I have to wait until I actually get pregnant and throw all logic out the window to say it. Just wondering.
Guise!! No flaming please! I'm having a fluttering feeling this morning and I just know that what I'm feeling is the sperm fertilizing the egg! May '16 BMB here I come!
Lurker from March '16. I remember when this was a real bone of contention on my BMB. Thanks for the laugh today. Also, @kmbeaner411, what the actual fuck? So reported.
LOL oh I'm so glad I got my morning laugh in! I so needed it I'm going to start claiming that too - I'm super in tune with my body! I can feel an egg moving down the right tube as we speak.... @SrMaryNapalm you're so smart, man I love your responses! Anyone can claim to "feel fetal movement" and at some point they would be right! However that's sheer coincidence. Anything anyone is feeling at this stage is only gas. It's scientifically impossible to feel a fetus right now. I have felt flutters etc (totally like a baby, right??) but I wasn't pregnant. I don't doubt you feel something, but it's not fetal movement. If claiming to "be in tune with your body" and feeling baby (gas) makes you feel speshul then go for it. People will point you in the direction of overwhelming scientific consensus though, that what you're saying isn't possible. And science =/= mean.
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Re: Anyone feeling movement yet?
Expecting Double Trouble, April 2016
You missed my point ~ stop trying to act like you're a doctor because you know how to google.
Your OBs opinion (someone who I know only anecdotally through the Internet) is not a respected source of information unless you can refer to their scientific published works in a peer reviewed journal.
Let me be clear, I am not trying to be condescending or make you feel less excited about your pregnancy and the changes you feel. It's awesome! However, this is the established process of how medicine and any other science works. I didn't make it up and I'm not telling you not to talk to your doctor but I will tell you if you say something blatantly unrealistic, scientifically speaking.
Expecting Double Trouble, April 2016
Dr Google, actually, can be pretty helpful IF you visit reputable sites. In my classes, we were encouraged to used Google Scholar to research scientific articles. It's just another search platform that, if used correctly, can be beneficial.
If OP thought she could feel her baby moving, great! She's lucky to have that reassurance so readily available. I couldn't feel it, even when we scanned it and saw it bouncing. I'll just have to keep my fingers crossed that it's a healthy, sticky bean until my next scan.
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but it does not help you or your argument to be defensive, judgemental, and rude. To make the assumption that just because I don't believe OP, I will not vaccinate my child is asinine. That wasn't even a part of the discussion until you brought it forward.
I'll just stick with the scientific research, my education, and common sense. If, in the future, more studies are conducted and a professional consensus is reached about the possibility of feeling embryonic movement, I would love to read the research articles and literature reviews. Until then, I'll stick with what my professors (many of them MDs) have taught me and what I've researched on my own. To each their own.
This is the last time I will post here because I think that everyone in this BMB wishes this post would die, but none so more than me.
Thank you for taking the time to respond like an adult and speak (type) to me I'm a way that illustrated respect and common courtesy.
I wish you all the best in your pregnancies.
A) You're new, so I'll clue you in... name calling is a no no.
C) People who base their bump knowledge on science are NOT the "same a-holes" who don't vaccinate. We do science. We're smart. We vaccinate. Not one single person will be impressed that you "went there."
Lurk before you start popping off at the mouth and attacking intelligent, experienced, established community members giving sound, scientific advice. They're not the ones who come out of this argument looking like they need to read more.
Me: 30 - DH: 29
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I know wine gives me headaches, burritos make me gassy, and not enough fiber in my diet gives me some really grouchy bellyaches. Does that mean I'm in tune with my body too?
Me: 30 - DH: 29
Married 10.8.10
TTC #1!
October LFAF Siggy Challenge: Pinterest Fails!
2015 LFAF Awards:
My Chart
Geez enough now.
Expecting Double Trouble, April 2016
Me: 30 - DH: 29
Married 10.8.10
TTC #1!
October LFAF Siggy Challenge: Pinterest Fails!
2015 LFAF Awards:
My Chart
Me: 30 - DH: 29
Married 10.8.10
TTC #1!
October LFAF Siggy Challenge: Pinterest Fails!
2015 LFAF Awards:
My Chart
I'm going to start claiming that too - I'm super in tune with my body! I can feel an egg moving down the right tube as we speak....
@SrMaryNapalm you're so smart, man I love your responses! Anyone can claim to "feel fetal movement" and at some point they would be right! However that's sheer coincidence. Anything anyone is feeling at this stage is only gas. It's scientifically impossible to feel a fetus right now. I have felt flutters etc (totally like a baby, right??) but I wasn't pregnant. I don't doubt you feel something, but it's not fetal movement. If claiming to "be in tune with your body" and feeling baby (gas) makes you feel speshul then go for it. People will point you in the direction of overwhelming scientific consensus though, that what you're saying isn't possible. And science =/= mean.