January 2015 Moms

Any interest in a BF check in?

I know there was a very helpful thread started by @AmyG*‌ but I thought it might be nice to have a place to periodically update about how BF is going- the good and not so good.

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  • I know with my son it was so hard at first and my DH didn't see the benefit. It got so much better though and I'm really glad I stuck with it. It always helped me to remind myself that it was something we were *both* trying to learn. The difficulties weren't just issues on my end. Made me feel less guilty about the struggles.

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  • I would love one.
    I'm currently on the down.
    I've had to supplement and I just feel so tired and so disappointed in myself.
    I actually started crying yesterday because I really didn't wanna supplement but baby girl was still hungry even after an hour and a half of nursing and she was beyond upset. Once she ate some of the formula she was all happy and slept but I honestly felt like such a failure.

    And my nipples hurt so bad !

    I'm trying my hardest to stay positive, I'm still nursing as much as I can and if she still seems hungry afterwords we give her a little to tide her over. The nurses have been so amazing and supportive and constantly checking on us and helping with the latch.

    We can do it ladies!
  • I'd love a BF check in! I think we can all learn and support each other. My little guy loves to cluster nurse at night and I'm beyond exhausted!!! It's so hard but I keep telling myself "it won't be like this for long"
  • Great idea!
    BFing is going well for us right now. Her latch is shallow, which caused a lot of pain early on, but it's mostly subsided now. My only complaint is that DD likes to cluster feed during the night, and then I fall asleep holding her, which is causing terrible neck pain. I don't mind cosleeping, but she sleeps so well in her bassinet that I'd hate to break that habit and teach her to only sleep with me. But, that might be the only way I get any sleep....
  • I haven't had baby yet, but I will love this after I deliver if everyone keeps it going!
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  • Id love one! I need some support, we've had a lot of issues with breastfeeding, getting her to latch onto me never happened so I've been having to use a shield. And even with her eating every 2 hours for a half hour on each side, she's not gaining any weight. If she still hasn't gained anything at her 1 month appointment in a couple weeks I'll have to supplement formula. Not something that is ideal for me, but I just want a healthy weight gaining baby!
  • I'm pumping and feeding...but hope I can still participate. I have a clogged duct in my right breast. I've tried massage, heating pad, hot shower, extra pumping still no dice. Its not super painful, yet.

    Have you tried massaging the lump toward your nipple while pumping? Also, lean forward a bit while you do it to let gravity help. If that doesn't work, take a comb and gently "comb" your breast toward the nipple while you pump. Weird, but it helps.
    If that doesn't work, maybe take another hot shower and just try to force the lump out toward the nipple. It really hurts, but sometimes is the only way for me to get them out.
    All that being said, be careful that you're massaging gently (and don't try to force it more than once or twice if it doesn't work) because you can bruise the inside of your breast and cause more pain. The best thing to do it just keep emptying your breast as much and as often as possible. Good luck!
  • I'm still using a shield but Ds is growing and gaining weight. So I'll take it. We've tried to latch without it but he doesn't really know what to do lol.
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  • @GirlWithAnchors‌ I read an article about how supplementing when done properly can actually lead to more success with breast feeding in the long run. It's so hard when they aren't very efficient.

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  • Curbs12 said:

    Id love one! I need some support, we've had a lot of issues with breastfeeding, getting her to latch onto me never happened so I've been having to use a shield. And even with her eating every 2 hours for a half hour on each side, she's not gaining any weight. If she still hasn't gained anything at her 1 month appointment in a couple weeks I'll have to supplement formula. Not something that is ideal for me, but I just want a healthy weight gaining baby!

    Have you seen a lactation consultant? Sometimes it really helps to have an experienced person who is more " aggressive" get in there to show your LO how to latch. I was being far too gentle with my son.

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  • I'm beyond exhausted, the only time S sleeps at night is when I'm holding him or lay him next to me to nurse. Otherwise he just wants me to nurse him all night. I think a check in would be good.
  • This sounds like a great idea! (As I'm currently struggling with cluster feeding and exhaustion)
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  • Curbs12 said:

    Id love one! I need some support, we've had a lot of issues with breastfeeding, getting her to latch onto me never happened so I've been having to use a shield. And even with her eating every 2 hours for a half hour on each side, she's not gaining any weight. If she still hasn't gained anything at her 1 month appointment in a couple weeks I'll have to supplement formula. Not something that is ideal for me, but I just want a healthy weight gaining baby!

    Have you seen a lactation consultant? Sometimes it really helps to have an experienced person who is more " aggressive" get in there to show your LO how to latch. I was being far too gentle with my son.
    Yes, they couldn't get her on either. Told me to keep trying, I got her to latch onto me once but no luck since...
  • Curbs12 said:

    Curbs12 said:

    Id love one! I need some support, we've had a lot of issues with breastfeeding, getting her to latch onto me never happened so I've been having to use a shield. And even with her eating every 2 hours for a half hour on each side, she's not gaining any weight. If she still hasn't gained anything at her 1 month appointment in a couple weeks I'll have to supplement formula. Not something that is ideal for me, but I just want a healthy weight gaining baby!

    Have you seen a lactation consultant? Sometimes it really helps to have an experienced person who is more " aggressive" get in there to show your LO how to latch. I was being far too gentle with my son.
    Yes, they couldn't get her on either. Told me to keep trying, I got her to latch onto me once but no luck since...
    Wow! How frustrating! Is there someone else you can see?

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  • Little man is a pro at latching & feeding but these cluster feeds at midnight have me at my wits end! My boobs just feel like they're going to fall off before he's done! It gets to a point where I'm like there is literally no way he has any more room in his tummy but he just keeps on going!
  • mmooki said:

    I'm still using a shield but Ds is growing and gaining weight. So I'll take it. We've tried to latch without it but he doesn't really know what to do lol.

    This is me too. I'd like to get away from the shield but for now he eats like a champ with it and it keeps me sane. I'll likely need to work with a LC soon on it though.




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  • Curbs12 said:

    Curbs12 said:

    Id love one! I need some support, we've had a lot of issues with breastfeeding, getting her to latch onto me never happened so I've been having to use a shield. And even with her eating every 2 hours for a half hour on each side, she's not gaining any weight. If she still hasn't gained anything at her 1 month appointment in a couple weeks I'll have to supplement formula. Not something that is ideal for me, but I just want a healthy weight gaining baby!

    Have you seen a lactation consultant? Sometimes it really helps to have an experienced person who is more " aggressive" get in there to show your LO how to latch. I was being far too gentle with my son.
    Yes, they couldn't get her on either. Told me to keep trying, I got her to latch onto me once but no luck since...
    Wow! How frustrating! Is there someone else you can see?
    Very frustrating! But, I am very happy I am able to breastfeed even if that means using a shield. Going to see a midwife that works in my doctors office who i was told has some good tricks, wish us luck!
  • Great idea!

    DD and I seem to be doing pretty well. Her latch is good and I can't complain about sleep. That is really our biggest issue... I can't get her to stay awake to eat! I try all the tricks in the books every two hours during the day (she is 7 days old and not reached birth weight) and at night I wake her at 4 hours then 3. Any tried and true tricks for keeping baby up?

    I've been having some pain in my right breast and it feels like a really large hard area (I wouldn't say "bump") by my arm pit. I was wondering if maybe that area was backed up because I still sandwich my boob for DD quite often and maybe it is cutting off the milk from that area....? I pumped last time so I don't know to much about that area of it. I took a hot shower and massaged it towards the nipple and then fed right away afterward. It feels a little softer but still not like a normal drained breast.

    S hasn't reached his birthweight either. He has a weight check on Friday. As far as keeping them up, I usually change S' diaper first and if that's not enough get them naked. Naked and cold often works. You probably are backed up in that area. Try the football hold. Different positions can sometimes help them drain different areas of your breast.
  • I had the hardness in my armpit area as well with the initial engorgement and I would just massage it while he nursed & it cleared up.
  • @MrsDigger10‌ with DS1 we had to wake him up every 2 hours to feed for the first weeks which was not an easy feat. We had to get "cruel" and we would get him in only his diaper and set him down on our cold granite counter top. He would scream but would be consoled by nursing and would go right back to sleep after. Other times just changing his diaper would piss him off enough that he would wake up.
  • The physical aspects of feeding are thankfully going really smoothly, and my little guy is even sleeping well at night between feedings so I am not that sleep deprived. But I am surprised by the loneliness of feeding literally 7-8 hours of the day. I feel like all I do is feed him, eat and drink to replenish my body (it feels like he sucks it right out of me) and try to sleep. The few minutes I grab to do sitz baths and shower feel like selfish indulgences, but it's literally the only time left in the day.
    It gets easier! They get much quicker and more efficient at feeding as they get a little older! Hang in there!
  • The physical aspects of feeding are thankfully going really smoothly, and my little guy is even sleeping well at night between feedings so I am not that sleep deprived. But I am surprised by the loneliness of feeding literally 7-8 hours of the day. I feel like all I do is feed him, eat and drink to replenish my body (it feels like he sucks it right out of me) and try to sleep. The few minutes I grab to do sitz baths and shower feel like selfish indulgences, but it's literally the only time left in the day.
    This is how I feel, as well. Some days are better than others, but I often feel like I'm strapped to the chair. I also know I 'should' take naps when she does, but I feel like that's not how I want to spend the free time I have, you know?
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  • Maybe try a pacifier? We use the soothie kind & it hasn't affected his nursing, he just has to have something in his mouth to sleep.
  • papapalie said:

    papapalie said:

    I posted in the other post too, but I am definitely interested in a check in. Lately Xander will eat every 3-4 hours and then sleep for 3-4hours. Well this afternoon he has been eating for the last 2.5 hours...he can't get satisfied. I know I have milk and a lot of it but seriously I am over it. Should I try a bottle or a a little formula?

    Cluster feeding! It's building your supply, little man's usually last close to 4 hours but resist the urge to supplement! His last one was from about midnight to 4am, I was ready to throw in the towel but he finally slept & it was a good long nap too! As long as he is peeing, pooping, burping, you know he's getting milk, it's just a phase :) find you some good movies or fun apps on your phone to keep you occupied & stay hydrated!
    Usually when he cluster feeds he will stop for a while and then want to eat again. This time he is just non stop sucking. Thanks. I'll try to figure this out. My poor nipples hurt :(
    Is he actively nursing or just using you for comfort?

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  • @papapalie‌ Our LOs were born the same day and mine is definitely going through the two week growth spurt. She is eating twice as long as normal. Sounds like X might be in the same boat.
  • saiven said:

    I'm pumping. The pumping journey is a long drawn out saga that I might type out at some point but not right now.

    Pumping is going pretty well but I have a ridiculous amount of mama guilt about not being able to feed my baby. I have been staying away from here (reading but not posting) because I am struggling. A lot. Today is a better day but it's not easy...

    That's all I've got right now. Planning to see an LC this week to see if we can get him latching again.

    @saiven‌, i hate to see you with mommy guilt. I don't know if you've read any of my posts but even S is struggling and he's my 4th. I just assumed since I knew what I was doing that it'd be "old hat", but it is getting better. I haven't gone to the LC just because I remember a lot of the tricks and I'm not afraid to be a little forceful with him. Good luck hun, and you're doing your best! Pumping is great too! And like pp said, I've also known women to exclusively pump the first 3 months or so and go on to BF straight from the breast after that.
  • Love the idea of a check-ins!

    I woke up this morning and the top part of my breast hurts so bad! It has the sore feeling you get with a clogged duct but I don't feel any lumps. After nursing Lillian on that side I pumped too in the event that there was a clogged duct. But, it still hurts!

    If not a clogged duct, I'm not sure what it could be...

    Also, I'm right there with the others that are suffering with nightly cluster feeding. I swear after a few hours my boobs are drained and that there can't possibly be any more milk in there! And it feels like she's sucking my nipples raw! Oh the things we do for these beautiful, little babies!
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  • Do the sore nipples go away? It still really hurts on one side when he latches. I'm hoping it's temporary and not an issue that needs to be fixed.
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  • Hello ladies,

    I'd love a breastfeeding check-in!  I haven't posted much on this board but was really active on IF and PAIF. 

    Anyway, my LO is 2 weeks old.  She has a good latch but tires out easily and doesn't wake for feeds which is probably due to her jaundice and high bili levels (we were readmitted to hospital for it :(.....).  We wake her every 3 hours on a schedule. 

    So working with nurse practitioner/LC at my peds office.  We put her on breastfeeding scale and she is ineffective at extracting my milk.  So we are supplementing her with pumped breastmilk.  It is a lot of work, breastfeed first (make her work), then hubby gives her 40ml of pumped breastmilk  while I pump (I usually pump between 80ml-100ml per session).  So we are now able to freeze and have some on hand in the fridge for each feeding, so she doesn't have to wait for me to pump.  The whole routine between feeding/pumping/cleaning etc. is like an hour-1 hr. 15 minutes.  It is whole production and is exhausting.  I keep telling myself it will be worth it and I'm pretty proud that we haven't had to supplement with formula.  It is really cool I'm supplementing with my own breastmilk.  We have another weight check/LC appointment tomorrow. 

    For those of you who need to supplement, the LC was able to calculate how much she is actually taking in via breast (using bf scale) and calculate how much breastmilk we need to supplement her with to gain back the weight based on her weight/how much she  lost/etc.  She also said we could drop night pumping, so only pumping after feeds during the day.  We have enough saved up that we can just bf and supplement 40ml via bottle at night.  We are using AVENT bottles which have a wider nipple, I guess better for transitioning between bf and bottle.

    Anyway, sorry for long post, guess it's my way of coping.  Hubby goes back to work tomorrow and it is just going to be me doing this routine.  Pray for me! 

    @Pips09 I bought some Lasinoh Soothies which felt incredible (esp if you put them in the fridge) and they really helped with my cracked scabbed over painful nipples.  They are much better now and I think they are getting tougher and less sore. 
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  • saiven said:

    @amyg* and @4littlebears‌ thanks for the encouragement. We do lots of skin to skin and try to latch several times a day. Sometimes he'll latch on but it's only ever for 3-5 sucks before he detaches. I'm hanging in there and at least baby is getting fed. That's what I keep telling myself.

    That is basically where I was with my son. I had such a difficult time BF to start, but I saw an LC at 2 weeks and she helped a ton. I hope you have a similar experience.

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  • Pips09 said:

    Do the sore nipples go away? It still really hurts on one side when he latches. I'm hoping it's temporary and not an issue that needs to be fixed.

    With my other 2 babies the pain only lasted for a few weeks. The rest of the year was completely pain free. Now with this baby we had problems in the beginning and my nipples went through the shredder (or so it felt like) so I'm still waiting for the initial latch to be painless.

    Good luck! Keep telling yourself that there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

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    Agree with not wanting to burp! My little guy is the same way. But if I don't burp him well he ends up back awake. It is tough. I feel like my feeding
    And burping sessions in the middle of
    The nignt last an hour..... I've been holding off on the pacifier but maybe now is the time to try it?
  • Breast feeding is hard :( Brandon was born tongue tied and he could not get a good latch. Because he could not latch well and feed properly, he developed a little jaundice and had to be put under billi lights. We got his tongue clipped and he latched much better. He still has some latching issues for some reason. He latched great last night and early this morning but really struggled the rest of the day. I've had to supplement with formula a couple of times so far to make sure he is getting calories. One of my nipples isn't as prominent as the other and he hates that side so he only nurses on one side. So far tonight, he latched really well. My boobs are also really big so we are working on finding the right position. My mom is here and she has been a lifesaver. She had nursing problems with my older brother so she knows how hard nursing can be.
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    bwall84 said:

    Breast feeding is hard :( Brandon was born tongue tied and he could not get a good latch. Because he could not latch well and feed properly, he developed a little jaundice and had to be put under billi lights. We got his tongue clipped and he latched much better. He still has some latching issues for some reason. He latched great last night and early this morning but really struggled the rest of the day. I've had to supplement with formula a couple of times so far to make sure he is getting calories. One of my nipples isn't as prominent as the other and he hates that side so he only nurses on one side. So far tonight, he latched really well. My boobs are also really big so we are working on finding the right position. My mom is here and she has been a lifesaver. She had nursing problems with my older brother so she knows how hard nursing can be.

    It can take a while to get the hang of it, sometimes the bottle makes them forget the right way to latch-they have to hold their tongue differently for the breast than they do for the bottle.  you may need to see an LC to figure out what exactly is going on.  there are things you can do to make the other side stick out more, a supple cup is a pretty good idea to try.  Consider that you really need to pump any time you give a bottle of supplement so your supply regulates to meet his needs, then if you pump and find you need to give another bottle use your own milk instead of formula.  good luck, you can do this.  keep baby skin to skin increases their instinct to latch.

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    I was really hesitant to give him the bottle. I know how much easier the bottle can be. He nursed really well again earlier. The good thing is that I'm not having a production problem. I will definitely be calling an LC at our hospital about my left breast (the non preferred breast). I'm perfectly ok with pumping the left breast and having him nurse from the right. I have a nipple shield that the LC can show me how to use. My milk should be coming in any time now so I can start pumping. It will take time and patience but we'll get there!

    ETA: We do a lot of skin to skin. Sometimes he likes it too much and he falls asleep. We also do a cold wash cloth on the feet, cheek, and forehead to get him stimulated. It's starting to work.
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  • AmyG* said:


    bwall84 said:

    AmyG* said:


    bwall84 said:

    Breast feeding is hard :( Brandon was born tongue tied and he could not get a good latch. Because he could not latch well and feed properly, he developed a little jaundice and had to be put under billi lights. We got his tongue clipped and he latched much better. He still has some latching issues for some reason. He latched great last night and early this morning but really struggled the rest of the day. I've had to supplement with formula a couple of times so far to make sure he is getting calories. One of my nipples isn't as prominent as the other and he hates that side so he only nurses on one side. So far tonight, he latched really well. My boobs are also really big so we are working on finding the right position. My mom is here and she has been a lifesaver. She had nursing problems with my older brother so she knows how hard nursing can be.

    It can take a while to get the hang of it, sometimes the bottle makes them forget the right way to latch-they have to hold their tongue differently for the breast than they do for the bottle.  you may need to see an LC to figure out what exactly is going on.  there are things you can do to make the other side stick out more, a supple cup is a pretty good idea to try.  Consider that you really need to pump any time you give a bottle of supplement so your supply regulates to meet his needs, then if you pump and find you need to give another bottle use your own milk instead of formula.  good luck, you can do this.  keep baby skin to skin increases their instinct to latch.
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    I was really hesitant to give him the bottle. I know how much easier the bottle can be. He nursed really well again earlier. The good thing is that I'm not having a production problem. I will definitely be calling an LC at our hospital about my left breast (the non preferred breast). I'm perfectly ok with pumping the left breast and having him nurse from the right. I have a nipple shield that the LC can show me how to use. My milk should be coming in any time now so I can start pumping. It will take time and patience but we'll get there!

    ETA: We do a lot of skin to skin. Sometimes he likes it too much and he falls asleep. We also do a cold wash cloth on the feet, cheek, and forehead to get him stimulated. It's starting to work.




    theres no reason why a bit of work can't get him nursing on both sides.  most babies have a preferred side but will come to accept both even if they are flat or inverted.

    you don't have to wait til your milk is in to pump.  you can begin pumping or hand expressing now if baby won't latch well and use your own milk.

    A supple cup helps to get a flat or inverted nipple to stand up.  shields are just an interrim measure.

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    We'll continue to work on the left side. I'm sure the LC can really help with that. It's only been three days and we'll get there. We even had to work on the right breast and it just took finding the right position. When he latches he nurses like a champ.
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