Serial

djtippietoes

Anyone want to discuss?

djtippietoes

@caer the only motive that I can think of for Jay would be that Adnan was really close with his girlfriend.  Maybe he was jealous and wanted him out of the picture?  

djtippietoes

I think the whole thing is just going to end with a commentary on the justice system in this country and we'll never know.

flightview

I'm downloading Serial right now...this sounds super interesting! 

djtippietoes

Have you seen something online that says Hae's ATM card was used that afternoon in a different part of Baltimore?  

djtippietoes

@caer - it's here:  https://mashable.com/2014/11/23/serial-podcast-facts/

@elf828 and @flightview the good thing (I guess) about discussing this is that there really aren't any spoilers.  

djtippietoes

I can barely remember what I did yesterday.  Though Sarah Koenig did have a point when she said that the cop calling Adnan should have made that day stand out in his mind.  I would think especially if he was stoned and worried about a cop calling while he's stoned.

Also, I used Mailchimp for two years.

djtippietoes

@caer He went to Woodlawn the year before, so he could have known her.  

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The Neighbor Boy part is weird.  I forgot about that actually.

And why didn't they have Asia Mclane testify?  

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Also, why did Adnan and Jay go to Kathy's house that night?  Kathy barely knew Jay.  She was a college friend of Jenn - who wasn't Jay's girlfriend.

djtippietoes

@caer I think lending the car is weird but the cell phone is not.  In 1999, it was hard to get a hold of people.  Even if Jay had a pager, he might not have been near a phone.  So if Adnan really did need Jay to come get him immediately, that would make sense.

djtippietoes

How do you guys think it'll end?  

djtippietoes

Yeah the lawyer's voice was super annoying.

djtippietoes

@tlex that's how I think it'll end too, with commentary about the justice system in the US.

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Caer said:

TyrannosaurusLex said:

@TyrannosaurusLex‌ - yes, yes! That is what bothers me so much. Adnan claims they were casual friends. That was clearly not the case. So why not come clean about that? I feel like there are big pieces of the puzzle missing. Like Jen - what is her deal? She had to be lying. Possibly covering for Jay? She changes her timeline too.

Like is it because there are hard feelings now? Is it because of what happened that day? Cuz obviously they aren't in cahoots on telling the cops the same story. I'm dying to know what the DNA evidence will reveal if they do end up testing it. That might have a lot of answers. The only thing they concluded was there was no sperm in her genital area. Ok but that does not mean she wasn't assaulted?! Important?! And also you don't just leave fibres unexamined, do you? Wtaf??

The forensics people did a crap job. I agree with that. It's another reason I think there was reasonable doubt in this case. Even if I ultimately think he's guilty. This blog post basically sums up my theory (although I don't agree that Serial is "stupid" obviously): https://josephkahn.tumblr.com/post/104768051478/i-solved-the-serial-podcast

I can get behind the part about Jay being involved and changing his story to make himself less involved.  Though I don't think Adnan would seek him out to help just because he was a drug dealer.  I hung around a lot of small-time drug dealers in high school.  None of them were murderers or would help with something like that.  

djtippietoes

@caer i'm also old and don't understand reddit.

flightview

********peeking in to say I'm on podcast 4 already!***************

narcissticbeaut

I've never heard of this before so i am off to investigate because it seems amazing

flightview

So far like TLex, Adnan gives me the creeps... He's too laid back about it all. Mr. S was kind of hilarious, but how did he see her hair? Was he randomly paid by someone in the know to 'find' her body. I tend to believe the conspiracy theories, and maybe this was a small part of a much bigger puzzle. But, I haven't heard all of it yet.

flightview

And I do not like Jay at all.

djtippietoes

@caer hahaha. It's an email service provider that smaller companies use to send out mass emails. Similar to constant contact if you've heard of that.

RedSoxGirl10

Yay Serial! I can't believe only one more week.

I want Adnan to be innocent, but like many others I can't really figure out what else could've happened. I do agree that if Jay did it, he didn't plan to frame Adnan, it just happened.

djtippietoes

Listening to the podcast, I felt Adnan was innocent but reading other people's takes on it makes me question that.

djtippietoes

Maybe jay and Adnan did it together but then jay ratted Adnan out to protect himself?

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@caer but if Asia saw Adnan after school, he wouldn't have had enough time to go meet Hae, kill her and get back for track.  Unless he wasn't at track...which no one can remember.

djtippietoes

I feel like I need to re-listen to all of the podcasts.

Didn't one of the guys that was with Asia McLean's boyfriend (or possibly the boyfriend himself) say that he couldn't remember if they saw Adnan in the library that day?  I feel like if they had seen him, Asia would have talked to her boyfriend and his friend when she wrote those letters, right?  

Now I'm leaning toward thinking Adnan did do it!

djtippietoes

Or back to Jay doing it, what if the Nisha call was at another time and then Jay called her but didn't answer on the day of the murder?  Or did they say he just got his cell phone that day, I forgot.

flightview

Why do Jay's stories keep changing!!!!???? Arghhhhh 8-X

djtippietoes

Oh I want to check out the Serial Spoilers one.  

I used to be a big fan of This American Life and sort of forgot about it for some reason.

djtippietoes

I finally got DH to download the podcasts so we could discuss. 

djtippietoes

@penguin173 the only motive I can think of for Jay is that he's jealous of Adnan's relationship with Stephanie so he kills Hae and frames Adnan.  That's some serious jealousy though.

djtippietoes

Somewhere someone said that there were teasers in the first episode that we haven't heard yet. Anyone know what they are?

djtippietoes

Has this been posted yet:  https://mentalfloss.com/article/60016/10-crazy-and-some-not-so-crazy-serial-theories

djtippietoes

I made DH listen to the first episode last night and I just asked him if he listened to more and he said:  yes, on the way to work, on the way home, before i went to bed, when i woke up, on murphy's 3 mile walk, and 2 more miles on the treadmill!

djtippietoes

djtippietoes said:

I made DH listen to the first episode last night and I just asked him if he listened to more and he said:  yes, on the way to work, on the way home, before i went to bed, when i woke up, on murphy's 3 mile walk, and 2 more miles on the treadmill!

I realize that this sounds weird - he works overnight, hence the before bed and all.  

Apparently, he listened to 7 podcasts in 24 hours.

djtippietoes

No I meant the weird part was that I didn't know what he was doing when he woke up and went to bed and all.

I think I listed to it all in like 3 days!

djtippietoes

https://www.adweek.com/adfreak/sarah-koenig-buckles-under-pressure-serials-final-episode-outstanding-parody-162006

flightview

djtippietoes said:

https://www.adweek.com/adfreak/sarah-koenig-buckles-under-pressure-serials-final-episode-outstanding-parody-162006

Lol "I'm too well spoken, I didn't do it!" That was funny! 

djtippietoes

flightview said:

djtippietoes said:

https://www.adweek.com/adfreak/sarah-koenig-buckles-under-pressure-serials-final-episode-outstanding-parody-162006

Lol "I'm too well spoken, I didn't do it!" That was funny! 

I also liked that little, "I use mailchimp."  "You do?" part.

djtippietoes

Also:  https://www.bustle.com/articles/54316-12-things-only-serial-listeners-understand

djtippietoes

Penguin173 said:

Have you all listened to the final episode???

I just finished!