October 2014 Moms

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  • @Syllessa‌ I won't quote you because it was long but I don't think that is the "man side." I just think that is reasonable. I get wanting physical touch!!
    I want sex too! I didn't mean to be all oh only men like sex. I love sex! I actually enjoy giving blow jobs. Your post was totally reasonable and I am sorry you and DH are having bedroom struggles :( I hope you are able to feel loved in other ways.
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  • @Syllessa‌ I won't quote you because it was long but I don't think that is the "man side." I just think that is reasonable. I get wanting physical touch!! I want sex too! I didn't mean to be all oh only men like sex. I love sex! I actually enjoy giving blow jobs. Your post was totally reasonable and I am sorry you and DH are having bedroom struggles :( I hope you are able to feel loved in other ways.
    When I use my brain, and not just my feelings, I know he loves me, I really do.  I made it very clear at the beginning of this relationship that physical touch was a priority to me.  I require it.  If he wasn't on board, then this was not the relationship for him.  Lack of intimate physical touch was one of the major factors in my 1st marriage.  I know the issue is his mind just can't get passed the pregnancy, and that's ok, but I still need the touch.  I think he's finally getting it though, so hopefully things only get better.
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  • @trisharenee0316 Yours was the PM that I was referring to. I still don't see why your comment to me in PM would have been taken poorly. You really have no way of knowing because you didn't post it publicly. I certainly didn't take offense to it and I think that is the most important part. If someone had flamed you for your comment, I would have likely responded to that as well. 

    Also, I think I responded rather well to Sara's comments. It's a pity that she didn't take the time to reply to my response. Kind of made me wonder why I even bothered to reply.

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  • @TheOtherJacobsons - I'm not sure if you were referring to me with respect to the PM, but I have to say that I probably would have never had that conversation with you if it wasn't via PM, precisely because of a sentiment like @crawford411 (I think that's the right username) brought up: it's not worth the uphill battle to have a contrary opinion--or possibly not even one that's contrary, but just one that comes from a different angle--and then have a blizzard of disagreement with a group of ragey pregnant women when you're already a ragey pregnant woman yourself.  So yes, perhaps part of the problem, but after seeing the response to Sara in this thread, I'm not sure it's the wrong way to go.  It's also a big part of why I have really pared back my participation here (probably to the delight of some).


    @TrishaRenee0316
    I'm assuming this bit is directed towards me. Can I ask what about what I said was so awful? Yes, I disagreed with her, and chose to back up why I disagreed with my opinion on it....but I really don't feel like I was so crazy rude that people should be afraid to voice their opinion. I honestly don't. For me, it has nothing to do with who is a regular or not, I've disagreed with a lot of "regulars" on here on a lot of issues...but I keep posting.

    I know you and I have had our differences, but that doesn't mean I don't want you to post here! I actually think you contribute a lot of good stuff to the board - even if we don't always see eye to eye.





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  • Liss1481 said:
    pushgal84 said:
    My UO, and I'm sorry in advance to all who have fur-babies that fall into this category, but I have a severe dislike of orange cats. I've never met one I liked and when I see them I feel zero warm and fuzzies. I don't feel this way about any other color cat and can't explain it really. Flame away orange cat owners...
    :-O       (in my experience, they are either super nice or super evil, no middle ground though)
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    Whereas, Bojangles is just straight judging. And letting you know he does not approve of this sentiment.

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    ETA: Calvin is freaking adorable!
    I'm pretty sure judgey cats are my favorite. That is one of the best things about cats, their personalities!





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  • @trisharenee0316 Yours was the PM that I was referring to. I still don't see why your comment to me in PM would have been taken poorly. You really have no way of knowing because you didn't post it publicly. I certainly didn't take offense to it and I think that is the most important part. If someone had flamed you for your comment, I would have likely responded to that as well. 

    Also, I think I responded rather well to Sara's comments. It's a pity that she didn't take the time to reply to my response. Kind of made me wonder why I even bothered to reply.
    I agree with respect to taking it in stride.  I just got a sense from that thread--whether right or wrong--that because you were upset, people were not going to deal with any comment that said anything other than offering hugs or comfort.


    @TrishaRenee0316
    I'm assuming this bit is directed towards me. Can I ask what about what I said was so awful? Yes, I disagreed with her, and chose to back up why I disagreed with my opinion on it....but I really don't feel like I was so crazy rude that people should be afraid to voice their opinion. I honestly don't. For me, it has nothing to do with who is a regular or not, I've disagreed with a lot of "regulars" on here on a lot of issues...but I keep posting.

    I know you and I have had our differences, but that doesn't mean I don't want you to post here! I actually think you contribute a lot of good stuff to the board - even if we don't always see eye to eye.
    If someone speaks up and gives a contrary opinion and the first response is to attack her reading comprehension and not actually giving a substantive response, then that person sort of learns her lesson, right?  But I could be wrong because I was told by another reg that I have reading comprehension problems (lulz).

    Also, you as a regular disagreeing with a regular is a lot different than someone else disagreeing with a regular, FWIW.  I've noticed those situations get overlooked or glossed over or resolved a lot more easily than other disagreements.  And certainly those who participate in the disagreements in the former case are more respectful than with the latter.



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  • @trisharenee0316 Yours was the PM that I was referring to. I still don't see why your comment to me in PM would have been taken poorly. You really have no way of knowing because you didn't post it publicly. I certainly didn't take offense to it and I think that is the most important part. If someone had flamed you for your comment, I would have likely responded to that as well. 

    Also, I think I responded rather well to Sara's comments. It's a pity that she didn't take the time to reply to my response. Kind of made me wonder why I even bothered to reply.
    I agree with respect to taking it in stride.  I just got a sense from that thread--whether right or wrong--that because you were upset, people were not going to deal with any comment that said anything other than offering hugs or comfort.


    @TrishaRenee0316
    I'm assuming this bit is directed towards me. Can I ask what about what I said was so awful? Yes, I disagreed with her, and chose to back up why I disagreed with my opinion on it....but I really don't feel like I was so crazy rude that people should be afraid to voice their opinion. I honestly don't. For me, it has nothing to do with who is a regular or not, I've disagreed with a lot of "regulars" on here on a lot of issues...but I keep posting.

    I know you and I have had our differences, but that doesn't mean I don't want you to post here! I actually think you contribute a lot of good stuff to the board - even if we don't always see eye to eye.
    If someone speaks up and gives a contrary opinion and the first response is to attack her reading comprehension and not actually giving a substantive response, then that person sort of learns her lesson, right?  But I could be wrong because I was told by another reg that I have reading comprehension problems (lulz).

    Also, you as a regular disagreeing with a regular is a lot different than someone else disagreeing with a regular, FWIW.  I've noticed those situations get overlooked or glossed over or resolved a lot more easily than other disagreements.  And certainly those who participate in the disagreements in the former case are more respectful than with the latter.
    So...because someone chooses not to post regularly, I can't disagree with them? I can't control the emotions or feelings of any poster, so would it be better to just ignore someone rather than disagree with them on a particular issue?






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  • @trisharenee0316 Yours was the PM that I was referring to. I still don't see why your comment to me in PM would have been taken poorly. You really have no way of knowing because you didn't post it publicly. I certainly didn't take offense to it and I think that is the most important part. If someone had flamed you for your comment, I would have likely responded to that as well. 

    Also, I think I responded rather well to Sara's comments. It's a pity that she didn't take the time to reply to my response. Kind of made me wonder why I even bothered to reply.
    I agree with respect to taking it in stride.  I just got a sense from that thread--whether right or wrong--that because you were upset, people were not going to deal with any comment that said anything other than offering hugs or comfort.
    Guess we'll never know, will we? I like to think that I have the ability to be a rational person. Next time, give me the benefit of the doubt ;)

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  • Happyin14 said:
    Here's an UO and I know it's being talked about in TP too....  I hate all the posts and sentiments shared when a celeb dies.  I mean - I like and understand the tributes from people who actually KNEW the person, but it always feels to me that folks are more willing to talk about being "devastated" when they didn't even know the individual. 

    I've had a lot of people close to me die in the past year and it is hard to see close friends of mine talk about famous people more than...sorry...my own child. 
    @Happyin14: I am so with you. I felt some sadness when I heard the Robin Williams news, but all the "tributes" on FB had me thinking some not so nice things.
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  • Guess we'll never know, will we? I like to think that I have the ability to be a rational person. Next time, give me the benefit of the doubt ;)
    I gave you the benefit of the doubt!  It was everyone else I was questioning. :)


    So...because someone chooses not to post regularly, I can't disagree with them? I can't control the emotions or feelings of any poster, so would it be better to just ignore someone rather than disagree with them on a particular issue?

    I...am not sure I said that.  But let's say, for example, one of the more regular posters wrote what Sara did in this thread.  Would your first comment to her be one just attacking her reading comprehension, or would you have taken time from the outset to fully set out your reasons for disagreeing?  True, you can't control the emotions or feelings of any poster.  But you can control your own!  That's all I'm saying.  The tone of the response is different.  And you clearly disagree with me, which is fine.
    I said the comment about reading comprehension level because out of the entire post (regarding the baby shower) all she got out of it was that @TheOtherJacobsons was "hosting her own shower" and that's why it's a "bad idea". I thought that was shitty. I fully admit my comment was snarky (and/or rude), but it's how I felt and I do believe I would have had that response for anyone on here.







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  • SaraML13 said:
    @trisharenee0316 Yours was the PM that I was referring to. I still don't see why your comment to me in PM would have been taken poorly. You really have no way of knowing because you didn't post it publicly. I certainly didn't take offense to it and I think that is the most important part. If someone had flamed you for your comment, I would have likely responded to that as well. 

    Also, I think I responded rather well to Sara's comments. It's a pity that she didn't take the time to reply to my response. Kind of made me wonder why I even bothered to reply.
    I didn't mean to disappear.  I posted during lunch and haven't had a chance to take a break from work to type a reply.  

    Your response to me was perfectly fine.  Your clarifications from your original post did help, although I still think that much of your family drama was self-inflicted.  I think your situation sounds less than ideal, but I don't have a lot of sympathy for a novel length rant.  That's not to say I think you're a horrible person and 50 people should have flamed you. I just had to roll my eyes at the responses to your shower post that were all "Oh, how awful that everything didn't go exactly how you wanted!  You poor thing" with zero people daring to point out that you probably weren't a completely blameless victim.

    But the bigger point is that you asked for an example of a post, I gave one, and someone else jumped in and immediately accused me of not being able to read.  Which is why a lot of the time I don't bother posting on hot topics or disagreeing with a regular.  I don't have the energy for getting into debates over my ability to read just because I have an UO.
    Whoa now. I never said you couldn't read. I questioned how much of what you read you actually understood. I apologize if I'm a big meanie that makes you not want to post here. I better check myself before I wreck myself.





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  • SaraML13 said:
    @trisharenee0316 Yours was the PM that I was referring to. I still don't see why your comment to me in PM would have been taken poorly. You really have no way of knowing because you didn't post it publicly. I certainly didn't take offense to it and I think that is the most important part. If someone had flamed you for your comment, I would have likely responded to that as well. 

    Also, I think I responded rather well to Sara's comments. It's a pity that she didn't take the time to reply to my response. Kind of made me wonder why I even bothered to reply.
    I didn't mean to disappear.  I posted during lunch and haven't had a chance to take a break from work to type a reply.  

    Your response to me was perfectly fine.  Your clarifications from your original post did help, although I still think that much of your family drama was self-inflicted.  I think your situation sounds less than ideal, but I don't have a lot of sympathy for a novel length rant.  That's not to say I think you're a horrible person and 50 people should have flamed you. I just had to roll my eyes at the responses to your shower post that were all "Oh, how awful that everything didn't go exactly how you wanted!  You poor thing" with zero people daring to point out that you probably weren't a completely blameless victim.

    But the bigger point is that you asked for an example of a post, I gave one, and someone else jumped in and immediately accused me of not being able to read.  Which is why a lot of the time I don't bother posting on hot topics or disagreeing with a regular.  I don't have the energy for getting into debates over my ability to read just because I have an UO.
    Eye rolls are completely acceptable. It was really long. I am pretty sure that I made mention of that in the subject line. 

    As for the blameless victim comments, I think Spurp13 put it best when she said something like, telling someone how shitty they are when they are down is like spitting in their eye when their dog dies and then laughing at them for it. She said it better, but I am kind of glad that people didn't tell me to STFU and suck it up. I still concede that I would have taken it better from one of you than from a bunch of outsiders. 
    Don't you know it's acceptable to lack compassion as long as someone thinks you've violated some unspoken etiquette rule?





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    Don't you know it's acceptable to lack compassion as long as someone thinks you've violated some unspoken etiquette rule?
    Mah bad, I totes forgot. 

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    SaraML13 said:
    @trisharenee0316 Yours was the PM that I was referring to. I still don't see why your comment to me in PM would have been taken poorly. You really have no way of knowing because you didn't post it publicly. I certainly didn't take offense to it and I think that is the most important part. If someone had flamed you for your comment, I would have likely responded to that as well. 

    Also, I think I responded rather well to Sara's comments. It's a pity that she didn't take the time to reply to my response. Kind of made me wonder why I even bothered to reply.
    I didn't mean to disappear.  I posted during lunch and haven't had a chance to take a break from work to type a reply.  

    Your response to me was perfectly fine.  Your clarifications from your original post did help, although I still think that much of your family drama was self-inflicted.  I think your situation sounds less than ideal, but I don't have a lot of sympathy for a novel length rant.  That's not to say I think you're a horrible person and 50 people should have flamed you. I just had to roll my eyes at the responses to your shower post that were all "Oh, how awful that everything didn't go exactly how you wanted!  You poor thing" with zero people daring to point out that you probably weren't a completely blameless victim.

    But the bigger point is that you asked for an example of a post, I gave one, and someone else jumped in and immediately accused me of not being able to read.  Which is why a lot of the time I don't bother posting on hot topics or disagreeing with a regular.  I don't have the energy for getting into debates over my ability to read just because I have an UO.
    Eye rolls are completely acceptable. It was really long. I am pretty sure that I made mention of that in the subject line. 

    As for the blameless victim comments, I think Spurp13 put it best when she said something like, telling someone how shitty they are when they are down is like spitting in their eye when their dog dies and then laughing at them for it. She said it better, but I am kind of glad that people didn't tell me to STFU and suck it up. I still concede that I would have taken it better from one of you than from a bunch of outsiders. 
    Maybe you should stop bringing it up then? Just let it die out so we can all move on.
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    Maybe you should stop bringing it up then? Just let it die out so we can all move on.
    I actually only brought it up once, today, in this thread. I think eye roll should be inserted here.

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  • CrisDee said:
    My UO is I hate overly quoted threads. Delete things that are not relevent. Takes forever to scroll past on a phone. You don't need to show everything just to add, "I agree."
    Agree :D 

    I also think that the +1 comments with all the quotes are even worse.

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  • pushgal84 said:
    My UO, and I'm sorry in advance to all who have fur-babies that fall into this category, but I have a severe dislike of orange cats. I've never met one I liked and when I see them I feel zero warm and fuzzies. I don't feel this way about any other color cat and can't explain it really. Flame away orange cat owners...
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  • alfibet said:
    I am still laughing at the poster who said "I have friends in the computer"( sorry there's too many posts to  go back and find who said that) That is so me right now.

    As for the board dynamic thing, I was trying to explain this board to my dh the other day, and he was so baffled. I was telling him about someone getting "flamed" and it was funny to watch him try to understand. He's never been on a forum or anything before. Pretty funny to see someone totally on the outside with no idea how any of this stuff works, and how weird the concept is.

    For UO: I completely agree with the poster who said they hate music (again I'm sorry I didn't find the poster who said it :( ) I SO hate music. When I was 18, a friend and I followed a band around to several countries going to their concerts... But sometime around 22 years old, I just stopped caring so much about music. It got boring and repetitive. Now It's the strict like rhythm to the music that drives me crazy? I guess? the verse, chorus, verse thing, then the background instruments that are doing the same beat or sound throughout the whole song just feel so loud to me, so much louder than the lyrics. All I hear is that one instrument making the same exact sound every few seconds... especially in music that uses "beats" like hip hop or rap. I will almost always drive around with just silence, unless my step son is in the car. I'll play music for him because he enjoys it.

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  • alfibet said:
    I am still laughing at the poster who said "I have friends in the computer"( sorry there's too many posts to  go back and find who said that) That is so me right now.

    As for the board dynamic thing, I was trying to explain this board to my dh the other day, and he was so baffled. I was telling him about someone getting "flamed" and it was funny to watch him try to understand. He's never been on a forum or anything before. Pretty funny to see someone totally on the outside with no idea how any of this stuff works, and how weird the concept is.

    For UO: I completely agree with the poster who said they hate music (again I'm sorry I didn't find the poster who said it :( ) I SO hate music. When I was 18, a friend and I followed a band around to several countries going to their concerts... But sometime around 22 years old, I just stopped caring so much about music. It got boring and repetitive. Now It's the strict like rhythm to the music that drives me crazy? I guess? the verse, chorus, verse thing, then the background instruments that are doing the same beat or sound throughout the whole song just feel so loud to me, so much louder than the lyrics. All I hear is that one instrument making the same exact sound every few seconds... especially in music that uses "beats" like hip hop or rap. I will almost always drive around with just silence, unless my step son is in the car. I'll play music for him because he enjoys it.

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  • onelilroo said:

    All the orange cats are ADORABLE!!! Oh, and Maxx isn't orange, but he says you should love all felines regardless of color!!

    Maxx is very wise.

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  • OMG THIS THREAD IS SO LONG!

    So I know I'm like three pages too late (the horror!) but I wanted to weigh in on the sex thing. I will NOT comment on the marriages of other people. I can only speak for myself. Before reading this thread, I would have said I'm in the "never say no to your spouse" camp. BUT. Now I realize there are some important distinctions to make. Like if your spouse is a major douche or you have some physical/mental health stuff going on, that changes things. And it's equally important that sex is not the only type if intimacy in marriage.

    But. In my relationship, in normal health, when we are connected on all other levels, it's not okay with me for either one of us to deny the other sex. He has said no to me and it was very hurtful. I will not do that. Ever. Even though he would probably be way more understanding than I was. Flame away.

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  • Totally just died of the cute!! Showed hubby too, and he agreed we need a bowtie for Maxx!! :D
  • @SPurp13‌ That bow tie!!! 8->

    He surprisingly looks pretty happy too. I'm pretty sure either of my cats would shred it after immediately tearing it off. Lol
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  • JessAnnJJessAnnJ member
    edited August 2014

    Ok, I am not done talking about the climate of our board. 


    Yes, there have been things that have been said on this board that should probably have had more of a discussion. I know for me that the reason I sometimes don't speak up is because sometimes it doesn't really seem that important to me to flame someone, not because they are popular, but because for one reason or another I don't find it necessary to get into it.

    There have been people who are not part of our community that have flamed us for both being too harsh and too lenient on our bumpie sisters. When this criticism comes from people who are not part of our community, we of course will jump on them. Their opinion doesn't matter. Not to me. What does matter to me are the opinions of the women here. Even the lurkers (Not as much mind you, but I still would listen to you if you actually said something other than how shitty we are. You know who you are.) I have said plenty of things that are flame worthy and been flamed for them! I took it, absorbed it, and it either changed me or it didn't. 

    I think what is being confused here is that we stick up for our own and that can come across as siding with an idea or a person and not the actual intent, which is to protect our community of people. If someone came here and flamed one of our girls, regardless of whether or not they deserved it, I would stick up for that person because I am a loyal friend. I think a side effect of this is that people who lurk or heck apparently even regulars feel like they cannot express their opinion. Believe me, I would take the opinion of someone here over someone who doesn't go here any day of the week. 

    Now, I am not talking about people who harbor hate or are hurtful people. If you were honestly a bad person and meant something shitty you said, you wouldn't have lasted long here anyway, but I wouldn't blindly defend you. I don't think we have anyone like that here. I honestly think that we all mean well, even when we put our feet in our mouths. Which is why I give most of you the benefit of the doubt. 

    This whole TB/FB thing is an interesting one. Some went there because they didn't like it here. Then some came back to tell us how much we sucked. Not really sure I feel the togetherness of that kind of behavior. We are a public community and they are private, so there is really no way for us to discuss this in the same way that they do. I am a member of both as I have said and I spend most of my time here. I honestly don't feel welcome there because of their culture. Now, when I do comment, I am welcomed, but I cannot say that I feel the same way there as I do here with regards to this sisterhood I have mentioned. I have to imagine that they feel the same way when they come here. Unfortunately, we are not the same community of people and that is kind of sad. 

    One final thing I want to say is that not saying something when you want to say something only helps perpetuate the problem. The regs became regs because we spoke up. I have been flamed more times than I can count. There have been times that I have wanted to close my account and never come back. The thing is, I didn't. I kept commenting. It really is up to the people who are silent to make themselves heard. There might be some growing pains by finally coming out and speaking your mind, but ultimately you are the only one who can do this. I can say that if speaking your mind consists of telling us how much we suck, we're not going to be receptive. It is your responsibility
    to speak up, not our responsibility to pave a road of rainbows and glitter. 
    My sigh worthy issue was when a certain member got banned. That particular member happened to disagree on multiple occasions with a popular member and very few people spoke up. To me getting banned,
    even if it was only temporary, is serious and the fact that few people commented just seemed way too mean girls group thinkish for my taste.

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