UO Thursday

Maelara

wildflower75 said:

I'll probably get flamed for this...
I don't agree with co-sleeping... at least not in the same bed...next to the bed or attached to the bed is fine in the beginning but sleeping in bed with DH and I is not ok. I think the main reason I am so against it is because I know so many people who complain about getting their kids to sleep outside of their bed and I'm like "you created this situation yourself"... then they go on to complain about how it has changed their sex life or even worse their marriage in general...
I'm sure many of you co-sleep or plan to and I honestly don't care what people do.. I just don't agree with it and I feel like if you create this environment for your child then you shouldn't complain about it.
~This could just be me venting from all the complaints I hear from co-workers~

---end quote--- I co-slept with N. She is one and has been in her crib since she was 6 months. I think it depends on how long you co-sleep for. As @lissydee said, I don't see a use after the boobs aren't needed so much. ETA - I took out the first part as I didn't mean to post it.

Maelara

excitedpreggo12 said:

Maelara said:

wildflower75 said:

I'll probably get flamed for this...
I don't agree with co-sleeping... at least not in the same bed...next to the bed or attached to the bed is fine in the beginning but sleeping in bed with DH and I is not ok. I think the main reason I am so against it is because I know so many people who complain about getting their kids to sleep outside of their bed and I'm like "you created this situation yourself"... then they go on to complain about how it has changed their sex life or even worse their marriage in general...
I'm sure many of you co-sleep or plan to and I honestly don't care what people do.. I just don't agree with it and I feel like if you create this environment for your child then you shouldn't complain about it.
~This could just be me venting from all the complaints I hear from co-workers~

---end quote--- I co-slept with N. She is one and has been in her crib since she was 6 months. I think it depends on how long you co-sleep for. As @lissydee said, I don't see a use after the boobs aren't needed so much. ETA - I took out the first part as I didn't mean to post it.

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So how do you keep a toddler from coming in and trying to cosleep with you, the baby, and SO? That's what I'm nervous about. 

I'll have to let you know N won't be old enough to just walk in our room when this baby gets here and when we will be co-sleeping. So for me, that will be a non-issue.

Lilwatz

lisaren said:

And just throwing it out there, I love this board and the randoms don't bother me (ok yes some days it does) but I do wonder if this board isn't just a little too much rainbows and sprinkles. I mean really, not everyone gets along this great in real life. Snark is good. Love is good. Fake is not. I feel that some keep their real opinions of others and/or their opinions to themselves because of the rainbow label.

I hear what you are saying, but I censor myself the same way on here that I do in real life.  I don't see it as fake, I see it as not being an asshole.  Again, not saying disagreeing makes you an asshole.  But if I see someone and think they are a moron, or if someone says something that is totally stupid, I don't typically call them out on it.  I make fun of them to my husband later. 

Come to think of it, it might be because I am not good at disagreeing with people without being an asshole.    My husband says pregnancy has made my filter come down and I say meaner things to people.  He loves it. 

momtojad

excitedpreggo12 said:

Maelara said:

wildflower75 said:

I'll probably get flamed for this...
I don't agree with co-sleeping... at least not in the same bed...next to the bed or attached to the bed is fine in the beginning but sleeping in bed with DH and I is not ok. I think the main reason I am so against it is because I know so many people who complain about getting their kids to sleep outside of their bed and I'm like "you created this situation yourself"... then they go on to complain about how it has changed their sex life or even worse their marriage in general...
I'm sure many of you co-sleep or plan to and I honestly don't care what people do.. I just don't agree with it and I feel like if you create this environment for your child then you shouldn't complain about it.
~This could just be me venting from all the complaints I hear from co-workers~

---end quote--- I co-slept with N. She is one and has been in her crib since she was 6 months. I think it depends on how long you co-sleep for. As @lissydee said, I don't see a use after the boobs aren't needed so much. ETA - I took out the first part as I didn't mean to post it.

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So how do you keep a toddler from coming in and trying to cosleep with you, the baby, and SO? That's what I'm nervous about. 

I bedshared till 9 months and then my baby went to his crib fine.  There is no way I could have breastfed till a week ago if I didn't bedshare.  He can't get out of his crib so I have no issue with him trying to come back into bed with us.

Maelara

flutterbuggie said:

Okay, I'm worried about posting this but I'm gonna do it anyway. I don't think people with visible miniorities should not get preference for things over those that don't. I don't think that just because you are aboriginal you should get first dibs on a midwife in my city. Edit- changed should to should not. Stupid mobile bumping

I'm not flaming you ok? You're sweet and I know how much that took for you to post. I don't look at it as them having 'more rights' or preference or whatever. They get preference for things that are important to their culture. Also, I'm going to go only very slightly gamer on you (a mainstream one so hopefully most people get it). When you're first in Mario cart you don't get the good items because you don't NEED it. When you're last you get the best stuff because you DO NEED it. It's the same thing here. They get that treatment because they won't get fair treatment otherwise. They get first dibs on midwives because it's important to their culture.

mander82

We are not planning on co sleeping.   Baby will be in a bassinett in our room in the beginning,  then they will be in their crib in the next room after that.  

SD's mother can't leave her boys' room til they fall asleep or they will follow her back to her room.  I would smack their ass.   I plan on spanking my child......that may be another UO.   

wildflower75

mander82 said:

Rap music is noise pollution.

Chocolate ice cream is gross. 

BAM!

I can't believe

SweetMelissa5

wildflower75 said:

I'll probably get flamed for this...
I don't agree with co-sleeping... at least not in the same bed...next to the bed or attached to the bed is fine in the beginning but sleeping in bed with DH and I is not ok. I think the main reason I am so against it is because I know so many people who complain about getting their kids to sleep outside of their bed and I'm like "you created this situation yourself"... then they go on to complain about how it has changed their sex life or even worse their marriage in general...
I'm sure many of you co-sleep or plan to and I honestly don't care what people do.. I just don't agree with it and I feel like if you create this environment for your child then you shouldn't complain about it.
~This could just be me venting from all the complaints I hear from co-workers~

I can understand getting annoyed at the constant complaining and just not wanting the situation for yourself, but I've bed-shared with all of my kids, and the only person I ever complain to is my husband (usually just about how such a small person can manage to take up so much space). So far, they've been in my bed until the next baby comes along, so it was 19 months, 20 months, and it will be about 22 months for my youngest. I understand that it's not for everyone, but it works for us, and I don't know why anyone else cares about where/how our kids sleep.

missnacholover

Re: white privilege...

Sometimes it works the opposite way though.  I've seen many instances where more qualified white folks were passed up for jobs or promotions for a minority because the company was working to diversify the workplace.

My thought is in situations like that - the person best qualified for the job should get it - regardless of skin color, sex, sexual orientation, etc.

lisaren

@flutterbuggie‌ so children with a threatening disabilities should not be granted a MAW trip?

No special parking lots?

SSI for disabled people?

Scholarships for people of color or ethnicity?

MrsLillyG

mander82 said:

We are not planning on co sleeping.   Baby will be in a bassinett in our room in the beginning,  then they will be in their crib in the next room after that.  

SD's mother can't leave her boys' room til they fall asleep or they will follow her back to her room.  I would smack their ass.   I plan on spanking my child......that may be another UO.   

But why?  This is not how the world works.  A teacher, boss, coach etc does not smack you when you do something wrong.  Why should a parent?  I was spanked as a kid and I think it is completely ridiculous and will never forgive my dad for it.

mommymeg143

Maelara said:

I think there are altogether too many repetitive and unnecessary threads on N14.  This is apparently a UO because they continue to be posted constantly.

I couldn't agree more. I think it's *mainly* the randos. Every time I see one I want to run in and post a link to the exact same thread a few down. I will, however, AW the shit out of my scan once I get the results on Tuesday tacky? I hope so feel free to link a different thread in there. That would be hilarious. That goes for everyone!

We're scan twins!  Let's AW the hell out of this board on Tuesday.

JamieK1882

missnacholover said:

Re: white privilege...

Sometimes it works the opposite way though.  I've seen many instances where more qualified white folks were passed up for jobs or promotions for a minority because the company was working to diversify the workplace.

My thought is in situations like that - the person best qualified for the job should get it - regardless of skin color, sex, sexual orientation, etc.

Agree. The last time our job was hiring, we had several good candidates but because they were non-minority, we had to keep looking and bring in some minority as well to be diverse. I think if we had good candidates then let them interview. Fairness for all!

mommymeg143

JamieK1882 said:

(first of all, I know, I know this is a "food" UO that I hate but I think this really might be unpopular so I'm posting)

I don't like beer.

Ugh.  Yuck.  I HATE beer.  Especially when DH indulges in a few and comes to bed smelling like it.  Blah.

missnacholover

lissydee said:

missnacholover said:

Re: white privilege...

Sometimes it works the opposite way though.  I've seen many instances where more qualified white folks were passed up for jobs or promotions for a minority because the company was working to diversify the workplace.

My thought is in situations like that - the person best qualified for the job should get it - regardless of skin color, sex, sexual orientation, etc.

I agree.  However, I do think that when we have equally qualified individuals, that most of the time the preference goes towards that who is in the "majority."  White v. black, man v. female, able-bodied v. handicapped etc.  I think to deny that this happens is us sticking out head in the sand, and is why efforts supporting minorities have a reason to exist.

I don't necessarily agree with this.  I am sure it goes both ways.

Maelara

lissydee said:

missnacholover said:

Re: white privilege...

Sometimes it works the opposite way though.  I've seen many instances where more qualified white folks were passed up for jobs or promotions for a minority because the company was working to diversify the workplace.

My thought is in situations like that - the person best qualified for the job should get it - regardless of skin color, sex, sexual orientation, etc.

I agree.  However, I do think that when we have equally qualified individuals, that most of the time the preference goes towards that who is in the "majority."  White v. black, man v. female, able-bodied v. handicapped etc.  I think to deny that this happens is us sticking out head in the sand, and is why efforts supporting minorities have a reason to exist.

In Canada, it's actually the opposite (which is where @flutterbuggie and I are from). I believe they legally must hire the minority. At least where the First Nations is concerned.

ETA - I'm sorry to be adding this so much later. I believe its a legal thing where government jobs are concerned. Which, in canada also means colleges, universities, etc.

Maelara

MeganMullikin said:

Maelara said:

I think there are altogether too many repetitive and unnecessary threads on N14.  This is apparently a UO because they continue to be posted constantly.

I couldn't agree more. I think it's *mainly* the randos. Every time I see one I want to run in and post a link to the exact same thread a few down. I will, however, AW the shit out of my scan once I get the results on Tuesday tacky? I hope so feel free to link a different thread in there. That would be hilarious. That goes for everyone!

We're scan twins!  Let's AW the hell out of this board on Tuesday.

Technically my scan is tomorrow but I don't get any info from it until Tuesday. Sad panda

momtojad

lissydee said:

missnacholover said:

Re: white privilege...

Sometimes it works the opposite way though.  I've seen many instances where more qualified white folks were passed up for jobs or promotions for a minority because the company was working to diversify the workplace.

My thought is in situations like that - the person best qualified for the job should get it - regardless of skin color, sex, sexual orientation, etc.

I agree.  However, I do think that when we have equally qualified individuals, that most of the time the preference goes towards that who is in the "majority."  White v. black, man v. female, able-bodied v. handicapped etc.  I think to deny that this happens is us sticking out head in the sand, and is why efforts supporting minorities have a reason to exist.

Yes, My husband is well equipped with degrees and has been told before by a non hiring maanger that he wasn't chosen because:his name was hard to say, he is on a green card or because they would rather give work to Americans.  It is very very tough as a minority.  My dad is a quadriplegic and has to fight daily to have access to what the non disabled have access to.  The shitty benefits he gets because he chooses to still work are a joke and do not help him at all.

missnacholover

excitedpreggo12 said:

missnacholover said:

Re: white privilege...

Sometimes it works the opposite way though.  I've seen many instances where more qualified white folks were passed up for jobs or promotions for a minority because the company was working to diversify the workplace.

My thought is in situations like that - the person best qualified for the job should get it - regardless of skin color, sex, sexual orientation, etc.

So say there are 100 qualified White people that apply. 3 qualified Black people. 2 qualified disabled people and 1 qualified Hispanic. There are only 50 positions available...

Don't think for a second companies don't look outside of great resumes. If the Black guy's name is Jamal and has dreads vs. Sam with a crew cut - don't think the company will care if they're equally qualified. Those diversity measures exist for a reason. Too much evidence and proof has reared its ugly head time and time again. 

Oh and that company is still majority white. Even if a few people were overlooked for diversification. Imagine how that still feels to a minority. And the same would go for a company with 100 Black people applying, the minority is going to get a job there too.

Yeah, but at the same time imagine how it feels to be the person that is constantly overlooked in the name of diversification.  I'm not saying that it doesn't happen and that diversity measures don't have their place.  I'm saying it does happen - in both directions.  I'm saying it shouldn't.  The person who is best qualified for the job should get it.  Regardless of if his name is Jamal or Sam or if the person is a man or woman.  In a perfect world...

lisaren

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flutterbuggie said:

excitedpreggo12 said:

flutterbuggie said:

Okay, I'm worried about posting this but I'm gonna do it anyway.

I don't think people with visible miniorities should get preference for things over those that don't. I don't think that just because you are aboriginal you should get first dibs on a midwife in my city.

So no disabled, elderly, children, and women preferences either? I mean if you're going cross out one- all the others have to go. I'm all for any minority. It doesn't bother me because the minority is the mainly oppressed/ forgotten/ last group to get anything. I think people tend to forget to remind themselves of that aspect. 

@flutterbuggie‌ this is what you said quote box failed -******Yes totally. You shouldn't be given things simply because you are in a minority. *******





@flutterbuggie‌ This is also your comment that I'm responding too....

Okay well I wasn't speaking in regards to any of that stuff. Make a wish is specifically for those people, why would I be against people using their services?

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Because you said so. I'm on mobile so hard to highlight but I starred the above.

missnacholover

mrsmechanic1 said:

MrsLillyG said:

mander82 said:

We are not planning on co sleeping.   Baby will be in a bassinett in our room in the beginning,  then they will be in their crib in the next room after that.  

SD's mother can't leave her boys' room til they fall asleep or they will follow her back to her room.  I would smack their ass.   I plan on spanking my child......that may be another UO.   

But why?  This is not how the world works.  A teacher, boss, coach etc does not smack you when you do something wrong.  Why should a parent?  I was spanked as a kid and I think it is completely ridiculous and will never forgive my dad for it.

I was spanked as well.  I deserved that shit.

Troublemaker.

Jan1214

My original UO is that I don't enjoy Orange Is the New Black, but after reading all of these topics, I'm adding to it. I've read that Piper, the caucasian, blond, pretty main character is used as a sort of Trojan Horse to get people to watch a show about people who do not always get the same amount of air time pretty white people. I see scholarships and other programs in the same way. Sometimes people just need a foot in the door; they need a Trojan Horse. If one member of a family can go to college, other members are more likely to go. It gets really tricky when we look at it on a case-by-case basis, because it IS unfair that a minority student with a 3.8 GPA gets a scholarship over a caucasion student with a 4.0; however, when we step back and look at a bigger picture, our society as a whole would be much better off if more people had the chance to prove themselves in college, good jobs, etc. Many people in the minority would not have that chance if it were not for scholarships, special programs. I think the systems in place are trying to improve society as a whole by helping people who may not have as many opportunities. Sometimes they need a way in, and in turn, more people in their families and communities will see that it can be done. (I still don't like Orange Is the New Black though. I've tried to like it, but it makes me claustrophobic.)

mommymeg143

lisaren said:

@flutterbuggie‌ so children with a threatening disabilities should not be granted a MAW trip? No special parking lots? SSI for disabled people? Scholarships for people of color or ethnicity?

I'm glad that this world has those things available to help bring a smile to a child with a threatening disability, parking for those that are handicap (or pregnant), and scholarships for those of all color and ethnicity. 

What I don't agree with are people who take advantage of those which cause other people who NEED it to lose out.   Ex.  I have a co-worker who has a disabled husband.  She uses his handicap tag anywhere she goes even if he's not with her.   She constantly brags that she always has "VIP" parking anywhere she goes.   It's disgusting.   Especially considering the fact that i'm sure she has taken away a spot from someone who really did need handicap parking before. 

I work for a radio station and CONSTANTLY have people calling in trying to get free stuff because someone in their family is sick, disabled, lost their job, wrecked their car, etc..  It seriously kills me.   I am the most tenderhearted person in this world and it bothers me so much when people call in to use someone elses disability for their benefit.  Yesterday, I had someone call in to say that her daughter was dying of cancer.   She wanted to know if I would give her tickets to an upcoming concert so she could go with her girlfriend.   The only time she mentioned her daughter was to say she was dying of cancer.   She didn't say... I want my daughter to go see her favorite singer to make her feel better or can you get an autograph from my daughter's favorite artist to make her smile?  She said, I want tickets for my friend and I so we can have a girls night out.   I wanted to come through the phone and punch her in the throat for using her daughter's illness to get something for herself.   I deal with this every single day.  Someone else wanting something because someone else they know is going through something which means that they deserve to have something for putting up with them. We also had a woman say that her son had MS and they didn't expect him to live too much longer.  His dream was to meet Kenny Chesney.  We got her and her son backstage to meet Kenny Chesney and got them special seating on the stage.  He was in a wheelchair.  Fast forward a year and a half later,  I see him at a concert in Charlotte TOTALLY healthy.   I went up to him and asked how he was.  He laughed and said oh, my mom made it up so she could meet Kenny Chesney. It's total bullshit and one of the reasons I think people have a problem with the advantages people get because you never know who actually needs it and who doesn't which is sad. 

lisaren

excitedpreggo12 said:

mrsmechanic1 said:

lisaren said:

@flutterbuggie‌ so children with a threatening disabilities should not be granted a MAW trip?

No special parking lots?

SSI for disabled people?

Scholarships for people of color or ethnicity?

Scholarships aren't in the same category as Make a Wish or handicapped spots or SSI.  Apples to oranges.

@flutterbuggie‌ said ALL things given to any minority in preference where wrong. So it's not apples to oranges. Those are preferences. They get a wish while me, the majority that's healthy, do not. 


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Thank you for clarifying what my quote box failed to say.

Kristy774

lissydee said:

Jan1214 said:

My original UO is that I don't enjoy Orange Is the New Black, but after reading all of these topics, I'm adding to it. I've read that Piper, the caucasian, blond, pretty main character is used as a sort of Trojan Horse to get people to watch a show about people who do not always get the same amount of air time pretty white people. I see scholarships and other programs in the same way. Sometimes people just need a foot in the door; they need a Trojan Horse. If one member of a family can go to college, other members are more likely to go. It gets really tricky when we look at it on a case-by-case basis, because it IS unfair that a minority student with a 3.8 GPA gets a scholarship over a caucasion student with a 4.0; however, when we step back and look at a bigger picture, our society as a whole would be much better off if more people had the chance to prove themselves in college, good jobs, etc. Many people in the minority would not have that chance if it were not for scholarships, special programs. I think the systems in place are trying to improve society as a whole by helping people who may not have as many opportunities. Sometimes they need a way in, and in turn, more people in their families and communities will see that it can be done. (I still don't like Orange Is the New Black though. I've tried to like it, but it makes me claustrophobic.)

yes to all of this besides the dislike of OITNB.  :P

How can you not like OITNB???? I just finished season 2 and I'm sad.

absolutelymaybe

MeganMullikin said: I'm glad that this world has those things available to help bring a smile to a child with a threatening disability, parking for those that are handicap (or pregnant), and scholarships for those of all color and ethnicity.  What I don't agree with are people who take advantage of those which cause other people who NEED it to lose out.   Ex.  I have a co-worker who has a disabled husband.  She uses his handicap tag anywhere she goes even if he's not with her.   She constantly brags that she always has "VIP" parking anywhere she goes.   It's disgusting.   Especially considering the fact that i'm sure she has taken away a spot from someone who really did need handicap parking before.  I work for a radio station and CONSTANTLY have people calling in trying to get free stuff because someone in their family is sick, disabled, lost their job, wrecked their car, etc..  It seriously kills me.   I am the most tenderhearted person in this world and it bothers me so much when people call in to use someone elses disability for their benefit.  Yesterday, I had someone call in to say that her daughter was dying of cancer.   She wanted to know if I would give her tickets to an upcoming concert so she could go with her girlfriend.   The only time she mentioned her daughter was to say she was dying of cancer.   She didn't say... I want my daughter to go see her favorite singer to make her feel better or can you get an autograph from my daughter's favorite artist to make her smile?  She said, I want tickets for my friend and I so we can have a girls night out.   I wanted to come through the phone and punch her in the throat for using her daughter's illness to get something for herself.   I deal with this every single day.  Someone else wanting something because someone else they know is going through something which means that they deserve to have something for putting up with them. We also had a woman say that her son had MS and they didn't expect him to live too much longer.  His dream was to meet Kenny Chesney.  We got her and her son backstage to meet Kenny Chesney and got them special seating on the stage.  He was in a wheelchair.  Fast forward a year and a half later,  I see him at a concert in Charlotte TOTALLY healthy.   I went up to him and asked how he was.  He laughed and said oh, my mom made it up so she could meet Kenny Chesney. It's total bullshit and one of the reasons I think people have a problem with the advantages people get because you never know who actually needs it and who doesn't which is sad. 


---- quote fail ----  That really makes me sad for humanity that someone would do that. To pretend your kid is sick for personal gain is such a slap in the face to anyone who has a truly ill child. I hate to think what the kid is going to be when he gets older growing up thinking that his mom's psychotic behavior was not only acceptable but laughable. *shudders*

emoxymoose

mander82 said:

We are not planning on co sleeping.   Baby will be in a bassinett in our room in the beginning,  then they will be in their crib in the next room after that.  

SD's mother can't leave her boys' room til they fall asleep or they will follow her back to her room.  I would smack their ass.   I plan on spanking my child......that may be another UO.   

Seriously eyerolling the bolded.

 My 24 month old still sleeps in the middle of us every night. He always has since he was small. We've tried, unsuccessfully to move him to his own bed but he's scared, so much at times that he used to throw up from the anxiety. It would of actually made things 1000x worse if I had beat him because I was unhappy about his behavior. We're in the process of letting him know he's still safe, and sometimes that means staying in room with him until he falls asleep. Kids don't want to sleep in their parents room because they're being bad, so why would you physically discipline them for it.

Also just for the record, I'm not against spanking. However, I do think your children should understand why you're disciplining them instead of just spanking their asses because you're frustrated with them. 

lisaren

@mrsmechanic1‌
This is what I was referring to specifically.

flutterbuggie said:

excitedpreggo12 said:

flutterbuggie said:

Okay, I'm worried about posting this but I'm gonna do it anyway.

I don't think people with visible miniorities should get preference for things over those that don't. I don't think that just because you are aboriginal you should get first dibs on a midwife in my city.

So no disabled, elderly, children, and women preferences either? I mean if you're going cross out one- all the others have to go. I'm all for any minority. It doesn't bother me because the minority is the mainly oppressed/ forgotten/ last group to get anything. I think people tend to forget to remind themselves of that aspect. 

Yes totally. You shouldn't be given things simply because you are in a minority.

AnnieRoo13

MeganMullikin said:

Maelara said:

I think there are altogether too many repetitive and unnecessary threads on N14.  This is apparently a UO because they continue to be posted constantly.

I couldn't agree more. I think it's *mainly* the randos. Every time I see one I want to run in and post a link to the exact same thread a few down. I will, however, AW the shit out of my scan once I get the results on Tuesday tacky? I hope so feel free to link a different thread in there. That would be hilarious. That goes for everyone!

We're scan twins!  Let's AW the hell out of this board on Tuesday.

Ohhhh me too me too! Let's flood the board with AW posts on Tuesday.

absolutelymaybe

I would rather people be honest when they don't like a name rather than say they like it just to be polite. I don't think lying to spare someone's feelings is polite.

MalachiteDrake

MrsLillyG said:

KUinCBUS said:

People who claim pregnancy is 10 months long make me crazy... (I guess this isn't really a UO, but more of a random statement). 40 weeks is NOT equal to 10 months. One month is longer than 4 weeks (exception: February). 

All of that said, I recognize that pregnancy can SEEM like it takes forever.

So..... to the lovely ladies of N14, I am so thankful (perhaps this belongs on the thankful thread, heh) that y'all seem to understand how math works. For reasons I cannot understand DD's BMB seemed to be constantly debating this issue and I only realized this morning that I haven't seen a single 10 month-er here

drives me nuts...

365.25 days in a year / 12 months in a year x 9 months ~ 274 days

365.25 days in a year / 12 months in a year x 10 months ~ 304 days

40weeks pregnancy x 7 days in a week = 280 days (which is much closer to 274 than 304)

I cringe whenever someone says its 10 months.

Your second equation should be: 365.25 days in a year/13 lunar months in a year x 10 lunar months = ~281 days

....which is closer to 280 than 274.

Pregnancy isn't 10 Gregorian months, but it is 10 lunar months.

ETA: Hit enter too soon. The only reason I even know any of this is because my OB explained why I might hear references to 10 months and why I might see him twice in a month (a Gregorian month) because he likes to see patients every 4 weeks to check fetal development. I got curious about the different calendars and looked them up. 

I've never had anyone insist to me that pregnancy was 10 Gregorian months long, though. I agree that that would be annoying and make my head hurt. 

lisaren

mrsmechanic1 said:

lisaren said:

@mrsmechanic1‌
This is what I was referring to specifically.

flutterbuggie said:

excitedpreggo12 said:

flutterbuggie said:

Okay, I'm worried about posting this but I'm gonna do it anyway.

I don't think people with visible miniorities should get preference for things over those that don't. I don't think that just because you are aboriginal you should get first dibs on a midwife in my city.

So no disabled, elderly, children, and women preferences either? I mean if you're going cross out one- all the others have to go. I'm all for any minority. It doesn't bother me because the minority is the mainly oppressed/ forgotten/ last group to get anything. I think people tend to forget to remind themselves of that aspect. 

Yes totally. You shouldn't be given things simply because you are in a minority.

Her last sentence says "You shouldn't be given things simply because you are in a minority."  Disabled people aren't given things because they're in the minority, they're given closer parking spaces because they physically can't make it to the door as easily.  Elderly people aren't given SSI because they're the minority, they're given SSI because they've paid in (which is arguable in some cases, but we'll leave that UO for another week).  Children aren't given Make a Wish trips because they're the minority, they're given trips because they're sick and people have donated their miles/monies to give them the opportunity to go.  With the examples you gave, I don't think that is giving them things because they're the minority, there are other circumstances that allow them those privileges.


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I agree with you. I read her statement differently. I referenced hers off of preggos comment
And I agree that all the above are not in the minority, sadly many don't see it that way.

And mobile bumping and quote boxes pisses me off sometimes.

lisaren

mrsmechanic1 said:

lisaren said:

@mrsmechanic1‌
This is what I was referring to specifically.

flutterbuggie said:

excitedpreggo12 said:

flutterbuggie said:

Okay, I'm worried about posting this but I'm gonna do it anyway.

I don't think people with visible miniorities should get preference for things over those that don't. I don't think that just because you are aboriginal you should get first dibs on a midwife in my city.

So no disabled, elderly, children, and women preferences either? I mean if you're going cross out one- all the others have to go. I'm all for any minority. It doesn't bother me because the minority is the mainly oppressed/ forgotten/ last group to get anything. I think people tend to forget to remind themselves of that aspect. 

Yes totally. You shouldn't be given things simply because you are in a minority.

Her last sentence says "You shouldn't be given things simply because you are in a minority."  Disabled people aren't given things because they're in the minority, they're given closer parking spaces because they physically can't make it to the door as easily.  Elderly people aren't given SSI because they're the minority, they're given SSI because they've paid in (which is arguable in some cases, but we'll leave that UO for another week).  Children aren't given Make a Wish trips because they're the minority, they're given trips because they're sick and people have donated their miles/monies to give them the opportunity to go.  With the examples you gave, I don't think that is giving them things because they're the minority, there are other circumstances that allow them those privileges.

I agree with you. I read her statement differently. I referenced hers off of preggos comment
And I agree that all the above are not in the minority, sadly many don't see it that way.

And mobile bumping and quote boxes pisses me off sometimes.

mander82

emoxymoose said:

mander82 said:

We are not planning on co sleeping.   Baby will be in a bassinett in our room in the beginning,  then they will be in their crib in the next room after that.  

SD's mother can't leave her boys' room til they fall asleep or they will follow her back to her room.  I would smack their ass.   I plan on spanking my child......that may be another UO.   

Seriously eyerolling the bolded.

 My 24 month old still sleeps in the middle of us every night. He always has since he was small. We've tried, unsuccessfully to move him to his own bed but he's scared, so much at times that he used to throw up from the anxiety. It would of actually made things 1000x worse if I had beat him because I was unhappy about his behavior. We're in the process of letting him know he's still safe, and sometimes that means staying in room with him until he falls asleep. Kids don't want to sleep in their parents room because they're being bad, so why would you physically discipline them for it.

Also just for the record, I'm not against spanking. However, I do think your children should understand why you're disciplining them instead of just spanking their asses because you're frustrated with them. 

 

******stuck in quote box.  Internet explorer does suck.      Her oldest boy is 6 and in kindergarten.   I am not saying that everyone should smack their kids because they want to sleep in their parents room.   These two boys are just spoiled rotten and they have no discipline.    I agree that kids should understand why they are getting spanked.     My dad used to beat me so bad,  he probably could have been put in jail.   We were bad kids, but not THAT bad.    I know its a controversial subject.  I know its not for everyone.    I plan on using spanking as a disciplinary option,  but not as a first resort.     If the kid is scared,  then obviously yelling or spanking isn't going to resolve the issue.  

jaminjeff

MrsLillyG said:

mander82 said:

We are not planning on co sleeping.   Baby will be in a bassinett in our room in the beginning,  then they will be in their crib in the next room after that.  

SD's mother can't leave her boys' room til they fall asleep or they will follow her back to her room.  I would smack their ass.   I plan on spanking my child......that may be another UO.   

But why?  This is not how the world works.  A teacher, boss, coach etc does not smack you when you do something wrong.  Why should a parent?  I was spanked as a kid and I think it is completely ridiculous and will never forgive my dad for it.

From your reaction I'm thinking your dad was rather rough.  My mother spanked me, one time.  It was WELL DESERVED and I learned my lesson.  I had been given ample warnings and still did something very dangerous.  She bent me over her knee and spanked me.  I was devastated, but I never did it again.  I feel the same way about spankings with my son, they're not an every day occurence, but something for an extreme moment.

cindyNmark2010

Re spanking: My grandmother was italian.  Just sayin'

 

JamieK1882

AnnieRoo13 said:

MeganMullikin said:

Maelara said:

I think there are altogether too many repetitive and unnecessary threads on N14.  This is apparently a UO because they continue to be posted constantly.

I couldn't agree more. I think it's *mainly* the randos. Every time I see one I want to run in and post a link to the exact same thread a few down. I will, however, AW the shit out of my scan once I get the results on Tuesday tacky? I hope so feel free to link a different thread in there. That would be hilarious. That goes for everyone!

We're scan twins!  Let's AW the hell out of this board on Tuesday.

Ohhhh me too me too! Let's flood the board with AW posts on Tuesday.

Me three! a/s is Tuesday. I'm not finding out the sex, but I'll put lots of baby profile pics and let everyone guess. :P

lizzielu82

My UO: If you're going to complain about the board being annoying, do something about it and let's take back control! B-)

• Start a new and more original thread
• Go onto those random threads and state your REAL opinion - or link to similar topics
• Don't just respond with the same answers every time 
• Don't be afraid of the snark

I've complained and also try to do all of the above (although I know I could do more). This board is what we make of it, and we can definitely make it more fun and less redundant. Onward Whore Knights of N14!

Jan1214

chmwilliams said:

I'm a little afraid to wade in, but here goes. As a handicapped woman (and hilariously someone from D14 flamed someone for using the word handicapped, lol. Just thought I would mention it because it made me laugh), the word I keep noticing is 'fair'. It should all be fair. The thing I think certain people are missing is that the world isn't fair - that is why these scholarships, these things like Make A Wish (which I took FULL advantage of at age 13 - Hello Disneyworld!), all the additional state-funded programs (which I use to purchase my prosthetic leg because $40,000 every 4 years is not something I can fund on my own, even after my meager insurance), all exist. There are scholarships for disable people that aren't for those who are fully-abled. Why? Because I don't have the same chances as everyone else. I can't always access the same buildings, the same classrooms, or attend the same activities. I am 34 years old and missing a leg for more than 20. I have trouble standing sometimes for long periods, I fall constantly because a fake leg is not a real leg. And would I take advantage of scholarships and not feel bad, you bet. Because they are there to help make sure I have the same advantages as someone who can work a job standing on their feet 40 hours a week (I can't do that), or has access to scholarships for their sports activities (I was unable to play), etc. Scholarships aren't about taking anything from anyone else - they are about making sure the young child who grew up desperately poor has a chance to attend the same university as the child who had a family who could afford to help their child pay for school books. It's about leveling the playing field. Merit is all fine and good - but what about the students who didn't have that chance to get by? And honestly, there are scholarships for everyone - white, black, Asian, handicapped, etc. Apply for the ones you can and honestly, quit worrying about ones you don't qualify for (like if you're not an athlete - then you don't qualify for a sports scholoarship). To be honest - this argument should be about the fact that college is so unaffordable for everyone - and that the job market is so bad that this is what people are arguing about. There are bigger issues.... OK, end of my thoughts. I have no UO. I wish I did. lol

Wooo hoooo! Thank you.

MollMoll4

I don't have a UO that is really a UO so I will just say that I am glad to see some reasonable debate on here! I agree that the unicorns and rainbows make me bored here sometimes. I'll try to give my honest opinion more than just eye rolling behind my screen and moving on