Here's what bugs me @jss1002 ..... You don't post here where you think you're helpful...you apparently post here to have 'fun' while you go to April for "real support". Presumably because we are all "immature" and overall "not very nice".
I can't speak for all of S14, but apparently you CAN make sweeping generalizations about the board, but I will say that if you are coming here for fun, but don't count on us for support because of all the shit you mentioned, then we don't want you.
People have differing opinions on this board all the damn time with little to no problem. If there is a problem, it is usually not about the opinion itself so much as that particular poster's history or how they may have worded something. We normally work it out, let it drop, or someone GBCB. I think your opinion and grace's opinion are based on your stuck-up preconceived notions about how people should treat you...and that's not reality.
So, here's your gif. Bye, Jason.
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Here's what bugs me @jss1002 ..... You don't post here where you think you're helpful...you apparently post here to have 'fun' while you go to April for "real support". Presumably because we are all "immature" and overall "not very nice".
I can't speak for all of S14, but apparently you CAN make sweeping generalizations about the board, but I will say that if you are coming here for fun, but don't count on us for support because of all the shit you mentioned, then we don't want you.
People have differing opinions on this board all the damn time with little to no problem. If there is a problem, it is usually not about the opinion itself so much as that particular poster's history or how they may have worded something. We normally work it out, let it drop, or someone GBCB. I think your opinion and grace's opinion are based on your stuck-up preconceived notions about how people should treat you...and that's not reality.
So, here's your gif. Bye, Jason.
I don't count on people here for support but I have certainly posted several supportive things to others in the past, and continued to do so yesterday, which I guess was a big faux pas since I didn't address the drama directly prior to continuing to post.
@jss1002 Nobody called you out or called you a bitch or said you were shady since day one, that would be against terms of use. Talking about "not grace" could be anyone. If you find yourself offended by what was said, it's on you.
Actually somebody did call me out in the 24 weeks thread, but didn't tag me. Unless there's another JSS floating around that I'm unaware of. Which is why I didn't respond - didn't think a response was necessary.
When I type in @jss there are at least 5 options for tagging that pop up. Just so you know.
@jss1002 Nobody called you out or called you a bitch or said you were shady since day one, that would be against terms of use. Talking about "not grace" could be anyone. If you find yourself offended by what was said, it's on you.
Actually somebody did call me out in the 24 weeks thread, but didn't tag me. Unless there's another JSS floating around that I'm unaware of. Which is why I didn't respond - didn't think a response was necessary.
When I type in @jss there are at least 5 options for tagging that pop up. Just so you know.
lstrejcek felt that it was wrong of me in some way to continue to post without addressing the issue.
@jss1002 Nobody called you out or called you a bitch or said you were shady since day one, that would be against terms of use. Talking about "not grace" could be anyone. If you find yourself offended by what was said, it's on you.
Actually somebody did call me out in the 24 weeks thread, but didn't tag me. Unless there's another JSS floating around that I'm unaware of. Which is why I didn't respond - didn't think a response was necessary.
When I type in @jss there are at least 5 options for tagging that pop up. Just so you know.
lstrejcek felt
that it was wrong of me in some way to continue to post without addressing the issue.
Here's my issue. I am active in DS's BMB FB Group and it is normal to compare the two. But talking trash about a board where they can see it, is just poor form. If you don't like the vibe here, don't participate. I realize you were dragged into the drama, but you could have decided to talk to her in private. Instead, you took the opportunity to bash our community in a public way. For that, I think you are twatty.
You're right. I could have. Mistake on my part. However, I didn't say anything to Grace in that thread that i haven't openly said here in the past. I also said that I related to a lot of the FTM feelings and remembered what that felt like. I own what I said. Completely.
@jss1002 Nobody called you out or called you a bitch or said you were shady since day one, that would be against terms of use. Talking about "not grace" could be anyone. If you find yourself offended by what was said, it's on you.
Actually somebody did call me out in the 24 weeks thread, but didn't tag me. Unless there's another JSS floating around that I'm unaware of. Which is why I didn't respond - didn't think a response was necessary.
When I type in @jss there are at least 5 options for tagging that pop up. Just so you know.
lstrejcek felt that it was wrong of me in some way to continue to post without addressing the issue.
False. I think it is wrong of you to continue to post to this board for all the aforementioned reasons, not because you didn't address the issue. Everyone saw what you said, sooooooo...... how do you think we would all be cool with it?
I don't generally have a problem with either of you @JSS1002 and @Grace0609 . I do find you guys supportive and funny. I tit both of you guys and was just thinking of grace the other day when my boss's boss had his 4th son. Maybe that's a UO. There's been a few misunderstandings... like grace's first thought of paying for a baby sitter in the $100 date thread. But you're hardly the only people on this board that have disagreements, as Yuri pointed out.
I don't always agree with you...I don't always agree with anyone. You guys call it like you see it... but so do carm, crick, treck, and many other ladies here. I don't see how us calling it like we see it is immature, not nice, and weird.... yet you two demand your right to have your differing opinions.
The only thing not sitting well in this whole thing (for me) is the board bashing that went on. Generally not considered kosher across the bump and hurtful to the ladies here. I'm not going to flame either of you off this board, but if we're not a good fit for you then it's probably best you go.
I don't always agree with you...I don't always agree with anyone. You guys call it like you see it... but so do carm, crick, treck, and many other ladies here. I don't see how us calling it like we see it is immature, not nice, and weird.... yet you two demand your right to have your differing opinions.
The only thing not sitting well in this whole thing (for me) is the board bashing that went on. Generally not considered kosher across the bump and hurtful to the ladies here. I'm not going to flame either of you off this board, but if we're not a good fit for you then it's probably best you go.
I don't always agree with you...I don't always agree with anyone. You guys call it like you see it... but so do carm, crick, treck, and many other ladies here. I don't see how us calling it like we see it is immature, not nice, and weird.... yet you two demand your right to have your differing opinions.
The only thing not sitting well in this whole thing (for me) is the board bashing that went on. Generally not considered kosher across the bump and hurtful to the ladies here. I'm not going to flame either of you off this board, but if we're not a good fit for you then it's probably best you go.
This.
I don't have a problem with disagreements and strong personalities -- what I have a problem with and what I've expressed over and over again is the attitude of being mean and rude to people for asking the wrong questions or saying the wrong things when they genuinely come here with good intent. It is hardly exclusive to this board but I've seen it here a lot more than anywhere else. That is what I was referring to and what I've said both here and on a13. I stand by my beliefs on that and the times that I've defended people here I've gotten the verbal shit kicked out of me for it. I find that to be mean, u supportive, and immature.
If my biggest sin is that I said on a14 what I have said here many times before, then mea culpa and lesson learned for me. I will apologize for breaking bump etiquette but not for my opinions on the matter.
And now I'm stepping away from the keys because I've invested way too much emotional energy on this.
I don't always agree with you...I don't always agree with anyone. You guys call it like you see it... but so do carm, crick, treck, and many other ladies here. I don't see how us calling it like we see it is immature, not nice, and weird.... yet you two demand your right to have your differing opinions.
The only thing not sitting well in this whole thing (for me) is the board bashing that went on. Generally not considered kosher across the bump and hurtful to the ladies here. I'm not going to flame either of you off this board, but if we're not a good fit for you then it's probably best you go.
This.
I don't have a problem with disagreements and strong personalities -- what I have a problem with and what I've expressed over and over again is the attitude of being mean and rude to people for asking the wrong questions or saying the wrong things when they genuinely come here with good intent. It is hardly exclusive to this board but I've seen it here a lot more than anywhere else. That is what I was referring to and what I've said both here and on a13. I stand by my beliefs on that and the times that I've defended people here I've gotten the verbal shit kicked out of me for it. I find that to be mean, u supportive, and immature.
If my biggest sin is that I said on a14 what I have said here many times before, then mea culpa and lesson learned for me. I will apologize for breaking bump etiquette but not for my opinions on the matter.
And now I'm stepping away from the keys because I've invested way too much emotional energy on this.
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I agree that you've always been the first to step in when you think people are being rude to the OP. The thing is everyone was being supportive in that thread and it was your own friend that came in guns blazing being rude. Instead of calling her out on it you supported her in the thread on your other bmb. I would have had a lot more respect for you if you told her to just chill out just like you do to everyone else. So it's ok for your friend to be rude to the OPs but not be called out on it but if anyone else rude they must know it.
Well you'll note that I never stepped into the thread grace was upset about to defend her either. I handled it badly and for that I apologize.
I don't always agree with you...I don't always agree with anyone. You guys call it like you see it... but so do carm, crick, treck, and many other ladies here. I don't see how us calling it like we see it is immature, not nice, and weird.... yet you two demand your right to have your differing opinions.
The only thing not sitting well in this whole thing (for me) is the board bashing that went on. Generally not considered kosher across the bump and hurtful to the ladies here. I'm not going to flame either of you off this board, but if we're not a good fit for you then it's probably best you go.
This.
I don't have a problem with disagreements and strong personalities -- what I have a problem with and what I've expressed over and over again is the attitude of being mean and rude to people for asking the wrong questions or saying the wrong things when they genuinely come here with good intent. It is hardly exclusive to this board but I've seen it here a lot more than anywhere else. That is what I was referring to and what I've said both here and on a13. I stand by my beliefs on that and the times that I've defended people here I've gotten the verbal shit kicked out of me for it. I find that to be mean, u supportive, and immature.
If my biggest sin is that I said on a14 what I have said here many times before, then mea culpa and lesson learned for me. I will apologize for breaking bump etiquette but not for my opinions on the matter.
And now I'm stepping away from the keys because I've invested way too much emotional energy on this.
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I agree that you've always been the first to step in when you think people are being rude to the OP. The thing is everyone was being supportive in that thread and it was your own friend that came in guns blazing being rude. Instead of calling her out on it you supported her in the thread on your other bmb. I would have had a lot more respect for you if you told her to just chill out just like you do to everyone else. So it's ok for your friend to be rude to the OPs but not be called out on it but if anyone else rude they must know it.
Well you'll note that I never stepped into the thread she was upset about.
i don't see why you think that matters at all. what you DID do was participate in her other thread, and talk about our BMB in plain sight, not in private. you had the opportunity to not respond to her publicly, or to even call her out on her behavior, in a way that is consistent with how you say you act. you did neither of these things.
why exactly do you think that this BMB should just ignore your comments on the other board? why should we feel comfortable or welcoming to you at this point? "addressing" this issue or not, why do you feel the need to keep posting here?
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Are we not going to talk about the fact that on another thread, a week before the one you posted here, you said this board "pretty much sucks" and that we were a "such mean spirited group you can hardly believe it"? Then you went on to list the most offensive posts S14 has encountered, but didn't mention that the posters of that shit were no longer part of this BMB - you kind of made it sound like that shit is accepted and the norm around here. To me, it's super shady to use those posts as examples of why we're so terrible and not clarify they were acknowledged as completely inappropriate by everyone still posting here today.
Throwing us under the bus for no real reason and twisting shitty situations to look a certain way is not cool.
oh you mean the thread where we came back and apologized for our gut reactions and said that we 10000% do not agree with the poster who was a complete and utter jerkface towards Grace? Yea I saw that too. Way to leave out the key details when telling stories and make it seem like we actually supported that bullshit.
ETA- I got my posts/posters confused... this was one that I had NOT read... and going back... we were compared to the assholes that said "those who have lost children or have angel babies shouldn't be "allowed" to celebrate mother's day" and "anybody who has genetic testing and knowingly has a child that is deemed "not compatible with life" is a "selfish asshole." once again if I remember correctly we did NOT support those asshats either
@JSS1002 you keep saying all you did was repeat stuff you've already said on our board but I'm having a hard time finding where you called us all weird and immature...,Help me out?
@JSS1002: Are we not going to talk about the fact that on another thread, a week before the one you posted here, you said this board "pretty much sucks" and that we were a "such mean spirited group you can hardly believe it"? Then you went on to list the most offensive posts S14 has encountered, but didn't mention that the posters of that shit were no longer part of this BMB - you kind of made it sound like that shit is accepted and the norm around here. To me, it's super shady to use those posts as examples of why we're so terrible and not clarify they were acknowledged as completely inappropriate by everyone still posting here today.
Throwing us under the bus for no real reason and twisting shitty situations to look a certain way is not cool.
ETA who I was talking to.
Oh shit, son. Preach it, girl
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@JSS1002, you have complained about this board on other boards numerous times. I am honestly confused why you post here at all. You seem to really dislike us, so why waste your time?
This is all I'm saying. I'm not trying to "flame anyone off a board", but I just can't wrap my head around why some one would post on multiple occasions all of the things that are wrong with this board and it's members, only to continue to come here to partake in it. You are more than welcome to stick around, not that you need my or anyone else's permission to do so, but you say you have real support elsewhere. I'm not seeing the draw here.
@JSS1002, you have complained about this board on other boards numerous times. I am honestly confused why you post here at all. You seem to really dislike us, so why waste your time?
This is all I'm saying. I'm not trying to "flame anyone off a board", but I just can't wrap my head around why some one would post on multiple occasions all of the things that are wrong with this board and it's members, only to continue to come here to partake in it. You are more than welcome to stick around, not that you need my or anyone else's permission to do so, but you say you have real support elsewhere. I'm not seeing the draw here.
@JSS1002: Are we not going to talk about the fact that on another thread, a week before the one you posted here, you said this board "pretty much sucks" and that we were a "such mean spirited group you can hardly believe it"? Then you went on to list the most offensive posts S14 has encountered, but didn't mention that the posters of that shit were no longer part of this BMB - you kind of made it sound like that shit is accepted and the norm around here. To me, it's super shady to use those posts as examples of why we're so terrible and not clarify they were acknowledged as completely inappropriate by everyone still posting here today.
Throwing us under the bus for no real reason and twisting shitty situations to look a certain way is not cool.
ETA who I was talking to.
Holy crap! I just read the thread you're talking about. Two out of three of the examples @JSS1002 lists are people we flamed all to hell for what they said...not people that are part of our board. Way to misrepresent this board in order to put us down.
And @Grace0609. If I remember correctly I stood up for you when people started saying you maybe shouldn't have more kids because of money. It was completely out of line and I said as much. Sorry that fun gtky went so wrong....but it was supposed to be FUN. The 'BTDT' attitude of the discussion you ladies had about it ('wait until they have kids and have to have a budget') reads very stuck up and superior to me. We're not all FTMs up in S14, and even if we were.... having a little dreaming fun doesn't mean we don't know how to budget.
ETA: I change my mind. I don't like either of you any more. Will I attack you at every post or run you off? No. But I just wanted that out there because this all made me very angry.
@JSS1002: Are we not going to talk about the fact that on another thread, a week before the one you posted here, you said this board "pretty much sucks" and that we were a "such mean spirited group you can hardly believe it"? Then you went on to list the most offensive posts S14 has encountered, but didn't mention that the posters of that shit were no longer part of this BMB - you kind of made it sound like that shit is accepted and the norm around here. To me, it's super shady to use those posts as examples of why we're so terrible and not clarify they were acknowledged as completely inappropriate by everyone still posting here today.
Throwing us under the bus for no real reason and twisting shitty situations to look a certain way is not cool.
ETA who I was talking to.
Holy crap! I just read the thread you're talking about. Two out of three of the examples @JSS1002 lists are people we flamed all to hell for what they said...not people that ate part of our board. Way to misrepresent this board in order to put us down.
And @Grace0609. If I remember correctly I stood up for you when people started saying you maybe shouldn't have more kids because of money. It was completely out of line and I said as much. Sorry that fun gtky went so wrong....but it was supposed to be FUN. The 'BTDT' attitude of the discussion you ladies had about it ('wait until they have kids and have to have a budget') reads very stuck up and superior to me. We're not all FTMs up in S14, and even if we were.... having a little dreaming fun doesn't mean we don't know how to budget.
I change my mind. I don't like either of you any more. Will I attack you at every post our run you off? No. But I just wanted that out there because this all made me very angry.
I read that GTKY too and it wasn't just you who came to defend Grace, but there was a bunch of people that jumped after that one comment out of line.
For the record even after the shitstorm the date night thread turned into, several of us reached out to Grace in the tread to try and make sure there were no hard feelings.
FTR, I was someone who stepped in on that particular thread, and I don't even like or agree with Grace's attitude. So no, people don't just get railroaded for no reason....except for our entire board, apparently.
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You're right. I could have. Mistake on my part. However, I didn't say anything to Grace in that thread that i haven't openly said here in the past. I also said that I related to a lot of the FTM feelings and remembered what that felt like. I own what I said. Completely.
Maybe I'm alone here, but I don't see why the bolded is supposed to make what you said okay. If you don't like the board or the people on it, and you don't see us as a support system, that is A-OKAY, my friend, but then you should probably leave it, not talk shit about it. Here on this board OR anywhere else.
Maybe you have said some things in the past that have been helpful to many people here, but to me, the fact that you openly called us weird and unsupportive kind of makes me not want to read or listen to anything you say.
I mean, you don't HAVE to leave or do anything at all, but certainly we unsupportive weirdos will be okay with or without your expertise.
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I can't speak for all of S14, but apparently you CAN make sweeping generalizations about the board, but I will say that if you are coming here for fun, but don't count on us for support because of all the shit you mentioned, then we don't want you.
People have differing opinions on this board all the damn time with little to no problem. If there is a problem, it is usually not about the opinion itself so much as that particular poster's history or how they may have worded something. We normally work it out, let it drop, or someone GBCB. I think your opinion and grace's opinion are based on your stuck-up preconceived notions about how people should treat you...and that's not reality.
So, here's your gif. Bye, Jason.
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When I type in @jss there are at least 5 options for tagging that pop up. Just so you know.
I don't always agree with you...I don't always agree with anyone. You guys call it like you see it... but so do carm, crick, treck, and many other ladies here. I don't see how us calling it like we see it is immature, not nice, and weird.... yet you two demand your right to have your differing opinions.
The only thing not sitting well in this whole thing (for me) is the board bashing that went on. Generally not considered kosher across the bump and hurtful to the ladies here. I'm not going to flame either of you off this board, but if we're not a good fit for you then it's probably best you go.
If my biggest sin is that I said on a14 what I have said here many times before, then mea culpa and lesson learned for me. I will apologize for breaking bump etiquette but not for my opinions on the matter.
And now I'm stepping away from the keys because I've invested way too much emotional energy on this.
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I agree that you've always been the first to step in when you think people are being rude to the OP. The thing is everyone was being supportive in that thread and it was your own friend that came in guns blazing being rude. Instead of calling her out on it you supported her in the thread on your other bmb. I would have had a lot more respect for you if you told her to just chill out just like you do to everyone else. So it's ok for your friend to be rude to the OPs but not be called out on it but if anyone else rude they must know it.
Well you'll note that I never stepped into the thread grace was upset about to defend her either. I handled it badly and for that I apologize.
why exactly do you think that this BMB should just ignore your comments on the other board? why should we feel comfortable or welcoming to you at this point? "addressing" this issue or not, why do you feel the need to keep posting here?
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Eta: other than in your other BMB of course
Oh shit, son. Preach it, girl
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And @Grace0609. If I remember correctly I stood up for you when people started saying you maybe shouldn't have more kids because of money. It was completely out of line and I said as much. Sorry that fun gtky went so wrong....but it was supposed to be FUN. The 'BTDT' attitude of the discussion you ladies had about it ('wait until they have kids and have to have a budget') reads very stuck up and superior to me. We're not all FTMs up in S14, and even if we were.... having a little dreaming fun doesn't mean we don't know how to budget.
ETA: I change my mind. I don't like either of you any more. Will I attack you at every post or run you off? No. But I just wanted that out there because this all made me very angry.
For the record even after the shitstorm the date night thread turned into, several of us reached out to Grace in the tread to try and make sure there were no hard feelings.
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Maybe I'm alone here, but I don't see why the bolded is supposed to make what you said okay. If you don't like the board or the people on it, and you don't see us as a support system, that is A-OKAY, my friend, but then you should probably leave it, not talk shit about it. Here on this board OR anywhere else.