Hrm, my bad, I just assumed part of being an 'excellent physician' was having good ethics.
Or maybe cutting corners, lying, and cheating is part of good ethics nowadays? Either way, taking the time to remove sponges is lame, that's what insurance is for. Amiright?
Well I'm a nurse and have worked with hundreds of doctors and yeah I'll agree that ethics appear to be optional nowadays, from my viewpoint. What I do know is that my husband practices safe, ethical medicine.
As far as driver's testing goes: I did not get my license until I was 23. I had no desire to drive until my husband and I married and moved into a city that required us to have two vehicles.
Edit: words.
I didn't get mine until I was 21. H got his when he was 22. I didn't have a car that I drove regularly until I was 23.
H is pretty awful in the car. He's not a bad driver, but he has been a spiteful one, and I hate it (and have told him I hate it and he's better now than he was). Some of the stuff he says when other drivers piss him off is just...awful. Like totally horrifying. At least he's not physically retributive (like slowing or cutting off deliberately) -- anymore. We had a come to Jesus about that right after we moved in together.
I'm a cautious driver. I tend to stick to between 5-7 miles above the limit if I'm on the interstate, and I do stay in the right lane. I try not to piss people off. I will say that I've been on a 2 lane road with a speed limit of 65 and I'm going 70 and I've had someone who had to be going 85 or 90 zoom up behind me. With no shoulder (out in the boonies where my mom's family lives). If there's a shoulder I'll totally pull over, but when that happens I push up to 75 until they can pass or I can pull off. I'm not comfortable going 90MPH just because the person behind me thinks that's how fast they can go. But I don't deliberately slow, ever.
TTC #1 since 11/2012 Me-31, H-27 **Loss 1-Cycle 7(June 2013) at 5w6d-CP**Loss 2-Cycle 11(October 2013) at 5w4d-CP** **Loss 3-Cycle 14 (January-February 2014)-M/C dx 2/10, EP dx 2/24, MTX 2/25** Beta Hell--hCG finally down to 0 - 6/20/14 SA normal. Genetic testing normal. Hormonal testing normal. HSG 6/30/14 - found blocked left tube and 2 'bubbles' on uterine wall. Hysteroscopy/Lap--8/4/14 - Tubes unblocked. Polyps removed from uterine wall. Septum removed. 9/30/14--Off the bench! Unmedicated TI through December 2014 BFP 12/14/14!!! Beta #1, 12/16: 990 Beta #2, 12/18: Over 2000! Beta #3, 12/22: over 8000! U/S #1, 12/23: gestational sac, possible heartbeat U/S #2, 12/30: HEARTBEAT! 128bpm, measuring right on at 7w EDD: 8/19/2015 U/S #3, 1/9: BPM in the 180s, IT'S HAPPENING!!!
As do I, @Rentaduckie. I learned a lot from "The Princess Diaries."
This is going to make me sound ridiculously lazy, but I don't envy Kate Middleton one bit. I am going to go drink a beer in the bathtub and read an US Weekly... and I will take that over dining with the Queen any day. It seems like so much work to be so fancy and "on" all the time.
Hrm, my bad, I just assumed part of being an 'excellent physician' was having good ethics.
Or maybe cutting corners, lying, and cheating is part of good ethics nowadays? Either way, taking the time to remove sponges is lame, that's what insurance is for. Amiright?
Well I'm a nurse and have worked with hundreds of doctors and yeah I'll agree that ethics appear to be optional nowadays, from my viewpoint. What I do know is that my husband practices safe, ethical medicine.
Wow, that's a pretty shitty view to take. Let's just throw ethics out the window because you've seen some less than ethical doctors, great idea. And if you don't seem to value ethics, and you and your H cheated on his entrance exams, I'm going to go ahead and question his ethics also.
As do I, @Rentaduckie. I learned a lot from "The Princess Diaries."
This is going to make me sound ridiculously lazy, but I don't envy Kate Middleton one bit. I am going to go drink a beer in the bathtub and read an US Weekly... and I will take that over dining with the Queen any day. It seems like so much work to be so fancy and "on" all the time.
I don't think this sounds lazy. I think this about fame in general. I have no desire to be in the public eye. I love the policy aspect of politics but would never run for office for this reason.
Hrm, my bad, I just assumed part of being an 'excellent physician' was having good ethics.
Or maybe cutting corners, lying, and cheating is part of good ethics nowadays? Either way, taking the time to remove sponges is lame, that's what insurance is for. Amiright?
Well I'm a nurse and have worked with hundreds of doctors and yeah I'll agree that ethics appear to be optional nowadays, from my viewpoint. What I do know is that my husband practices safe, ethical medicine.
It's much easier for you to say ethics is dead when you're the one killing it. There are still honest, ethical doctors. Your husband just isn't one of them.
TTGP since September 2013. All cycles were annovulatory due to Depo.
Hrm, my bad, I just assumed part of being an 'excellent physician' was having good ethics.
Or maybe cutting corners, lying, and cheating is part of good ethics nowadays? Either way, taking the time to remove sponges is lame, that's what insurance is for. Amiright?
Well I'm a nurse and have worked with hundreds of doctors and yeah I'll agree that ethics appear to be optional nowadays, from my viewpoint. What I do know is that my husband practices safe, ethical medicine.
Wow, that's a pretty shitty view to take. Let's just throw ethics out the window because you've seen some less than ethical doctors, great idea. And if you don't seem to value ethics, and you and your H cheated on his entrance exams, I'm going to go ahead and question his ethics also.
From the American Medical Association:
Principles of medical ethics
I. A physician shall be dedicated to providing competent medical care, with compassion and respect for human dignity and rights.
II. A physician shall uphold the standards of professionalism, be honest in all professional interactions, and strive to report physicians deficient in character or competence, or engaging in fraud or deception, to appropriate entities.
Hrm, my bad, I just assumed part of being an 'excellent physician' was having good ethics.
Or maybe cutting corners, lying, and cheating is part of good ethics nowadays? Either way, taking the time to remove sponges is lame, that's what insurance is for. Amiright?
Well I'm a nurse and have worked with hundreds of doctors and yeah I'll agree that ethics appear to be optional nowadays, from my viewpoint. What I do know is that my husband practices safe, ethical medicine.
Wow, that's a pretty shitty view to take. Let's just throw ethics out the window because you've seen some less than ethical doctors, great idea. And if you don't seem to value ethics, and you and your H cheated on his entrance exams, I'm going to go ahead and question his ethics also.
From the American Medical Association:
Principles of medical ethics
I. A physician shall be dedicated to providing competent medical care, with compassion and respect for human dignity and rights.
II. A physician shall uphold the standards of professionalism, be honest in all professional interactions, and strive to report physicians deficient in character or competence, or engaging in fraud or deception, to appropriate entities.
Well it wouldn't have been FFFC worthy if it weren't a "confession" but we obviously differ in opinions on the severity of the matter. I'm losing sleep over it, trust me.
Well it wouldn't have been FFFC worthy if it weren't a "confession" but we obviously differ in opinions on the severity of the matter. I'm losing sleep over it, trust me.
Helping my older sister color in a giant diagram of different parts for her Anatomy and Physiology course when I was little? ---> Not a big deal.
Doing any sort of homework for someone that requires more brain power than choosing which shade of orange to color in a liver? Bigger deal.
My confession: I don't like it when people do other people's work. Helping someone who is struggling: awesome sauce. Just fucking DOING IT? No sauce. I was NEVER the person to do someone else's homework in school: do your own shit. It always annoyed me friends would admit to doing their boyfriend's homework. Fucking No. It also pissed me off that other kids had mothers and fathers who wrote their college essays. Put in the work. To me it's not just ethics: have some pride in your own abilities or put the effort in to improve.
If you need help, ask for it, but don't shirk something onto someone else entirely.
Hrm, my bad, I just assumed part of being an 'excellent physician' was having good ethics.
Or maybe cutting corners, lying, and cheating is part of good ethics nowadays? Either way, taking the time to remove sponges is lame, that's what insurance is for. Amiright?
Well I'm a nurse and have worked with hundreds of doctors and yeah I'll agree that ethics appear to be optional nowadays, from my viewpoint. What I do know is that my husband practices safe, ethical medicine.
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Coming from the person who helped cheat for him, I totes believe you
I feel like a bad doggie mom. I took my 13yo yorkie for a teeth cleaning yesterday (she didn't have many left) and the vet pulled all of the rest of her teeth out! She said they were all either loose or had deep pockets so she has to feel better to not have rotten teeth in her mouth anymore but I can't help but feel bad. I've had her teeth cleaned before but it's been a few years because of the high cost of it. I just hope she forgives me and she feels better!
My Norwich terrier has terrible teeth too! He's 12 and this year's cleaning was the first one in three years where he didn't have any removed. Apparently small dogs are more likely to have genetic gum diseases(?). Good luck to your little Yorkie!!
Hrm, my bad, I just assumed part of being an 'excellent physician' was having good ethics.
Or maybe cutting corners, lying, and cheating is part of good ethics nowadays? Either way, taking the time to remove sponges is lame, that's what insurance is for. Amiright?
Well I'm a nurse and have worked with hundreds of doctors and yeah I'll agree that ethics appear to be optional nowadays, from my viewpoint. What I do know is that my husband practices safe, ethical medicine.
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Coming from the person who helped cheat for him, I totes believe you
*sigh* This shit depresses me. I am married to a lawyer who is a terrible writer. I was with him when he went through law school, and his grades would determine our entire future (it's top 50 or bust in law school these days).
It never even crossed my mind to write his papers for him. He never asked me to because he has immensely sound ethics, and wants to have the cajones to get through life on his own merits. I wouldn't have married him otherwise.
It isn't how you walk the easy path that defines you. It's how you walk the most trecherous rocky ones. Making someone else do it for you is lamer than failing.
Hrm, my bad, I just assumed part of being an 'excellent physician' was having good ethics.
Or maybe cutting corners, lying, and cheating is part of good ethics nowadays? Either way, taking the time to remove sponges is lame, that's what insurance is for. Amiright?
Well I'm a nurse and have worked with hundreds of doctors and yeah I'll agree that ethics appear to be optional nowadays, from my viewpoint. What I do know is that my husband practices safe, ethical medicine.
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Coming from the person who helped cheat for him, I totes believe you
*sigh* This shit depresses me. I am married to a lawyer who is a terrible writer. I was with him when he went through law school, and his grades would determine our entire future (it's top 50 or bust in law school these days).
It never even crossed my mind to write his papers for him. He never asked me to because he has immensely sound ethics, and wants to have the cajones to get through life on his own merits. I wouldn't have married him otherwise.
It isn't how you walk the easy path that defines you. It's how you walk the most trecherous rocky ones. Making someone else do it for you is lamer than failing.
I edit for my H. For grammar and occasionally word choice. He tends to be super long-winded in his writing and he'll read whatever he's writing to me and we'll talk about if there's a way to get to the point faster or re-word something so that the point is more clear. I do not write for him. And he definitely makes stylistic decisions that are not what I would make but I hold my tongue because that's his writing style.
I think being another set of eyes is fine. It's good to have a reader. But just doing it for someone because they're not as good at it as you is not okay.
TTC #1 since 11/2012 Me-31, H-27 **Loss 1-Cycle 7(June 2013) at 5w6d-CP**Loss 2-Cycle 11(October 2013) at 5w4d-CP** **Loss 3-Cycle 14 (January-February 2014)-M/C dx 2/10, EP dx 2/24, MTX 2/25** Beta Hell--hCG finally down to 0 - 6/20/14 SA normal. Genetic testing normal. Hormonal testing normal. HSG 6/30/14 - found blocked left tube and 2 'bubbles' on uterine wall. Hysteroscopy/Lap--8/4/14 - Tubes unblocked. Polyps removed from uterine wall. Septum removed. 9/30/14--Off the bench! Unmedicated TI through December 2014 BFP 12/14/14!!! Beta #1, 12/16: 990 Beta #2, 12/18: Over 2000! Beta #3, 12/22: over 8000! U/S #1, 12/23: gestational sac, possible heartbeat U/S #2, 12/30: HEARTBEAT! 128bpm, measuring right on at 7w EDD: 8/19/2015 U/S #3, 1/9: BPM in the 180s, IT'S HAPPENING!!!
Hrm, my bad, I just assumed part of being an 'excellent physician' was having good ethics.
Or maybe cutting corners, lying, and cheating is part of good ethics nowadays? Either way, taking the time to remove sponges is lame, that's what insurance is for. Amiright?
Well I'm a nurse and have worked with hundreds of doctors and yeah I'll agree that ethics appear to be optional nowadays, from my viewpoint. What I do know is that my husband practices safe, ethical medicine.
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Coming from the person who helped cheat for him, I totes believe you
*sigh* This shit depresses me. I am married to a lawyer who is a terrible writer. I was with him when he went through law school, and his grades would determine our entire future (it's top 50 or bust in law school these days).
It never even crossed my mind to write his papers for him. He never asked me to because he has immensely sound ethics, and wants to have the cajones to get through life on his own merits. I wouldn't have married him otherwise.
It isn't how you walk the easy path that defines you. It's how you walk the most trecherous rocky ones. Making someone else do it for you is lamer than failing.
I get where you're coming from. Your husband is obviously a good lawyer and a good person. And I don't disagree that the ethical part of it is sketchy at best. What I don't like is that there were a lot of people who seemed to insinuate that someone who can't write an essay can't be a good doctor (or good lawyer, or whatever other profession). I'm a great writer for things like that (essays, research papers, etc). But just because I can write an amazing essay on how a car works doesn't mean you should let me try to fix your engine because I'd fuck that shit right up.
Writing skills =/= Intelligence
Intelligence =/= Writing skills
Edit to add: I have been on mobile all day and I know that when I'm on mobile my reading comprehension seems to go down. So if I misunderstood or misinterpreted what was said earlier, feel free to correct me.
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No...if that was my argument, I would have been calling my DH stupid. He's not.
My issue is saying 'fuck ethics if they are hard'. Also, it's an issue that there doesn't seem to be any twinge of remorse. Instead, we get anonymous bragging about how they're too amazing and awesome for rules or judgement. That's the depressing part for me.
We just ate our wedding cake for our one year anniversary. It was still delicious. I will probably eat all of it by the end of the weekend. That is all.
I refused to eat year old cake. I did not ask for it to be frozen, and was actually pissed to find out that someone froze it without asking. (They also didn't wrap it. It was just in my grandparents' freezer for a year, unwrapped.) That cake was delicious when it was fresh, and I would have liked more of it then. I had no interest whatsoever in eating old cake. We had amazing sushi for our first anniversary. Better than cake.
Our cake tasted nearly the same as it did fresh. It was wonderful. I liked the sentiment of eating our wedding cake on the day we celebrated our anniversary. To each their own.
I refused to eat year old cake. I did not ask for it to be frozen, and was actually pissed to find out that someone froze it without asking. (They also didn't wrap it. It was just in my grandparents' freezer for a year, unwrapped.) That cake was delicious when it was fresh, and I would have liked more of it then. I had no interest whatsoever in eating old cake. We had amazing sushi for our first anniversary. Better than cake.
Our cake tasted nearly the same as it did fresh. It was wonderful. I liked the sentiment of eating our wedding cake on the day we celebrated our anniversary. To each their own.
We froze our cake for a month (really well wrapped) since I didn't want to eat year old cake either. It was really, really good still. We got fresh cupcakes from the bakery our wedding cake was from for our one year and will do so probably for every anniversary. Any excuse for cake, amirite?
About the cake: ours was bad at the wedding, and was even worse the next day. No way in hell I was gonna save that piece of crap.
I have a good confession. Last year my company bought tablets for a few of us to use for work. Today my boss sent out an email saying he never seems to see my one with theirs and if they are not being used, he would repurpose them. I wrote back and said I use mine all the time and he replied that he recalled me using one during a sales meeting he attended so I was okay. The truth? I use it at home. I'm using it right now. I use it to job hunt. I only use it for initial sales calls, but it's useless after that for work. So I Bump with it instead.
I refused to eat year old cake. I did not ask for it to be frozen, and was actually pissed to find out that someone froze it without asking. (They also didn't wrap it. It was just in my grandparents' freezer for a year, unwrapped.) That cake was delicious when it was fresh, and I would have liked more of it then. I had no interest whatsoever in eating old cake. We had amazing sushi for our first anniversary. Better than cake.
Our cake tasted nearly the same as it did fresh. It was wonderful. I liked the sentiment of eating our wedding cake on the day we celebrated our anniversary. To each their own.
Our cake tasted just as amazing 1 year later, as it did on our wedding day! I am really glad we saved it for that tradition!
@MaddScientist I would also be interested in a job like that! I would love to hear about it if you wouldn't mind sharing.
I see nothing wrong with peeing in the ocean and have done it a number of times. I wouldn't pee in a pool but i'm not too concerned about it. That's what chlorine is for.
I didn't realize it wasn't a requirement for every state. I definitely had to parallel park.
I just put two & two together the other day that driving is a state privilege, not a federal one. Hence state speeding limits, state requirements on tests and even state mandates for safety.
For example, wearing your seatbelt is not a law in all 50 states.
I had to look this up, I can not believe this isn't mandatory everywhere. Shame.
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I refused to eat year old cake. I did not ask for it to be frozen, and was actually pissed to find out that someone froze it without asking. (They also didn't wrap it. It was just in my grandparents' freezer for a year, unwrapped.) That cake was delicious when it was fresh, and I would have liked more of it then. I had no interest whatsoever in eating old cake. We had amazing sushi for our first anniversary. Better than cake.
My parents did this. We lied and told them we ate it. We actually tossed it because year-old cake was gonna be nasty.
Re: FFFC
If someone set a large pepperoni pizza in front of me right now I could probably finish it. I'd like half a cheesecake for dessert, too.
Well I'm a nurse and have worked with hundreds of doctors and yeah I'll agree that ethics appear to be optional nowadays, from my viewpoint. What I do know is that my husband practices safe, ethical medicine.
H is pretty awful in the car. He's not a bad driver, but he has been a spiteful one, and I hate it (and have told him I hate it and he's better now than he was). Some of the stuff he says when other drivers piss him off is just...awful. Like totally horrifying. At least he's not physically retributive (like slowing or cutting off deliberately) -- anymore. We had a come to Jesus about that right after we moved in together.
I'm a cautious driver. I tend to stick to between 5-7 miles above the limit if I'm on the interstate, and I do stay in the right lane. I try not to piss people off. I will say that I've been on a 2 lane road with a speed limit of 65 and I'm going 70 and I've had someone who had to be going 85 or 90 zoom up behind me. With no shoulder (out in the boonies where my mom's family lives). If there's a shoulder I'll totally pull over, but when that happens I push up to 75 until they can pass or I can pull off. I'm not comfortable going 90MPH just because the person behind me thinks that's how fast they can go. But I don't deliberately slow, ever.
Me-31, H-27
**Loss 1-Cycle 7(June 2013) at 5w6d-CP**Loss 2-Cycle 11(October 2013) at 5w4d-CP**
**Loss 3-Cycle 14 (January-February 2014)-M/C dx 2/10, EP dx 2/24, MTX 2/25**
Beta Hell--hCG finally down to 0 - 6/20/14
SA normal. Genetic testing normal. Hormonal testing normal.
HSG 6/30/14 - found blocked left tube and 2 'bubbles' on uterine wall.
Hysteroscopy/Lap--8/4/14 - Tubes unblocked. Polyps removed from uterine wall. Septum removed.
9/30/14--Off the bench! Unmedicated TI through December 2014
BFP 12/14/14!!! Beta #1, 12/16: 990 Beta #2, 12/18: Over 2000! Beta #3, 12/22: over 8000!
U/S #1, 12/23: gestational sac, possible heartbeat
U/S #2, 12/30: HEARTBEAT! 128bpm, measuring right on at 7w EDD: 8/19/2015
U/S #3, 1/9: BPM in the 180s, IT'S HAPPENING!!!
Team Purple!!!!
From the American Medical Association:
Principles of medical ethics
I. A physician shall be dedicated to providing competent medical care, with compassion and respect for human dignity and rights.
II. A physician shall uphold the standards of professionalism, be honest in all professional interactions, and strive to report physicians deficient in character or competence, or engaging in fraud or deception, to appropriate entities.
From the American Medical Association:
Principles of medical ethics
I. A physician shall be dedicated to providing competent medical care, with compassion and respect for human dignity and rights.
II. A physician shall uphold the standards of professionalism, be honest in all professional interactions, and strive to report physicians deficient in character or competence, or engaging in fraud or deception, to appropriate entities.
Well it wouldn't have been FFFC worthy if it weren't a "confession" but we obviously differ in opinions on the severity of the matter. I'm losing sleep over it, trust me.Team Purple!!!!
Coming from the person who helped cheat for him, I totes believe you
It never even crossed my mind to write his papers for him. He never asked me to because he has immensely sound ethics, and wants to have the cajones to get through life on his own merits. I wouldn't have married him otherwise.
It isn't how you walk the easy path that defines you. It's how you walk the most trecherous rocky ones. Making someone else do it for you is lamer than failing.
I think being another set of eyes is fine. It's good to have a reader. But just doing it for someone because they're not as good at it as you is not okay.
Me-31, H-27
**Loss 1-Cycle 7(June 2013) at 5w6d-CP**Loss 2-Cycle 11(October 2013) at 5w4d-CP**
**Loss 3-Cycle 14 (January-February 2014)-M/C dx 2/10, EP dx 2/24, MTX 2/25**
Beta Hell--hCG finally down to 0 - 6/20/14
SA normal. Genetic testing normal. Hormonal testing normal.
HSG 6/30/14 - found blocked left tube and 2 'bubbles' on uterine wall.
Hysteroscopy/Lap--8/4/14 - Tubes unblocked. Polyps removed from uterine wall. Septum removed.
9/30/14--Off the bench! Unmedicated TI through December 2014
BFP 12/14/14!!! Beta #1, 12/16: 990 Beta #2, 12/18: Over 2000! Beta #3, 12/22: over 8000!
U/S #1, 12/23: gestational sac, possible heartbeat
U/S #2, 12/30: HEARTBEAT! 128bpm, measuring right on at 7w EDD: 8/19/2015
U/S #3, 1/9: BPM in the 180s, IT'S HAPPENING!!!
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No...if that was my argument, I would have been calling my DH stupid. He's not.
My issue is saying 'fuck ethics if they are hard'. Also, it's an issue that there doesn't seem to be any twinge of remorse. Instead, we get anonymous bragging about how they're too amazing and awesome for rules or judgement. That's the depressing part for me.
I have a good confession. Last year my company bought tablets for a few of us to use for work. Today my boss sent out an email saying he never seems to see my one with theirs and if they are not being used, he would repurpose them. I wrote back and said I use mine all the time and he replied that he recalled me using one during a sales meeting he attended so I was okay. The truth? I use it at home. I'm using it right now. I use it to job hunt. I only use it for initial sales calls, but it's useless after that for work. So I Bump with it instead.
Married December 2011 TTC#1 Since November 2013
Dec. 2013... BFP! 12/31/13... Natural M/C 1/29/14 (8 weeks)
July 2014...BFP!... 17dpo beta 581...19dpo beta 1419!!.. stick baby, stick!
EDD: 3/20/15.. It's a boy!
Happy Anniversary @janda426!
Me: 28 H: 28 DS: 4
Trinitrotoluene: "My ears have been deflowered ....my mouth just hasn't been!"
I had to look this up, I can not believe this isn't mandatory everywhere. Shame.
Married since 09/21/2008, TTC now!
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