UO

oscarwao

@spacepotatoes - do you think chinstraps make guys look like douchebags, or do you think that generally guys with chinstraps are douche bags? I think chin straps can actually define weak jawlines and help out guys with chunkier faces, but I also think there are social connotations to having chinstraps. Jeez, I'm really contemplating facial hair here.

AnnieA75

kimberlykl2009 said:

AnnieA75 said:

mz628 said:

LoveIsAll25 said:

The only thing I could think of that most people don't agree with me is open marriages. I believe in open marriages. 

The reaction I receive when I tell someone this IRL: 

I think open marriages are a recipe for disaster.  Eventually your partner will fall in love with someone else.  Trying to separate sex and love is a bad idea and it usually never works out.

Also, why would you marry someone if you want to be with other people? 

I couldn't agree more! Why be married then!?! It totally goes against everything marriage is about.

Agree with all of this and I probably would have the same expression as Anderson above.  I believe that marriage vows are sacred between you and your spouse. I can't see how breaking those vows and bringing other people into the relationship shows any respect for the sacrament of marriage.

If you want to date/sleep with multiple people, why not just have an open relationship?

Can't bold on the iPad but as far as marriage being a "sacrament" I think the problem with that argument is the premise itself. If someone doesn't except the premise that marriage is a sacrament, but instead regards it as a legal process, then their view on the whole thing could be really different.

Ok, good point that not everyone is married in a church. However, even if a couple is united at city hall, they're still making a legally binding agreement between the two of them, not multiple other people. I just think that if you don't intend for your relationship to be between only you and the person you made the commitment to, then why not just have an open relationship as opposed to getting married.

IBackBevo

I guess the UO today should be titled drugs, sex and rock n roll. 

So who is going to take on the rock n roll issue? 

dogsombrero

IBackBevo said:

I guess the UO today should be titled drugs, sex and rock n roll. 

So who is going to take on the rock n roll issue? 

I guess I will. I don't care for U2. There I said it, I feel so free!

getitdone

IBackBevo said:

I guess the UO today should be titled drugs, sex and rock n roll. 

So who is going to take on the rock n roll issue? 

I can weigh in on Rock n Roll - I hate it! It hurts my head. Go ahead - Flame away!

Rocknroll64

IBackBevo said:

I guess the UO today should be titled drugs, sex and rock n roll. 

So who is going to take on the rock n roll issue? 

I think it's only fitting if I take this one.

I think that old school rock n roll beats any sort of contemporary pop/hip hop/alternative that they're playing on the radio these days.  

Except Pink....I will always love her. Judge me.

oscarwao

ljbreck said:

IBackBevo said:

I guess the UO today should be titled drugs, sex and rock n roll. 

So who is going to take on the rock n roll issue? 

I guess I will. I don't care for U2. There I said it, I feel so free!

I don't like U2 either. I like my rock a little rougher and weirder - Beck, The Thermals, etc.

Rocknroll64

To add to that...I went to a ZZ Top concert and it was the single best concert of my life.  Sweet beards swinging white fluffy guitars around in unison....awesome.

awc1986

ljbreck said:

IBackBevo said:

I guess the UO today should be titled drugs, sex and rock n roll. 

So who is going to take on the rock n roll issue? 

I guess I will. I don't care for U2. There I said it, I feel so free!

I FUCKING HATE U2. 

bono is king of the d-bags.

oscarwao

ljbreck said:

IBackBevo said:

I guess the UO today should be titled drugs, sex and rock n roll. 

So who is going to take on the rock n roll issue? 

I guess I will. I don't care for U2. There I said it, I feel so free!

I FUCKING HATE U2. 

bono is king of the d-bags.

busterbeagle

I really want to get DH tickets to see Morrissey for father's day, even though we can't afford it, I will be like 6 weeks PP, and he's at least a prince of the d-bags. (ETA: That's probably not even an UO, just a comment on the rock and roll theme.  Unless you think Morrissey is a prince of another sort.)

spacepotatoes

kimberlykl2009 said:

@spacepotatoes - do you think chinstraps make guys look like douchebags, or do you think that generally guys with chinstraps are douche bags? I think chin straps can actually define weak jawlines and help out guys with chunkier faces, but I also think there are social connotations to having chinstraps. Jeez, I'm really contemplating facial hair here.

That one is a tough call. I've seen a few that I didn't find unattractive, let's say, but it does go against my natural instinct.

Mimaloo

Yikes - I'm going to say that Morrissey is king of the d-bags and Bono is the prince. 

Empireceo

Freddie Mercury is the greatest lead singer of all time. If this is a UO, standby for my GBCB diatribe, you unsupportive hateful meanieheads.

hfooter

kimberlykl2009 said:

ljbreck said:

IBackBevo said:

I guess the UO today should be titled drugs, sex and rock n roll. 

So who is going to take on the rock n roll issue? 

I guess I will. I don't care for U2. There I said it, I feel so free!

I FUCKING HATE U2. 

bono is king of the d-bags.

I'm so happy to see I'm not the only one who doesn't like U2.

I can't really speak too much when it comes to music. I love to sing, and I love it when the lyrics are more than just the same shit repeated over and over again. But I hardly listen to music, not even when working and rarely in the car. That is unless I feel like singing.

oscarwao

kimberlykl2009 said:

@spacepotatoes - do you think chinstraps make guys look like douchebags, or do you think that generally guys with chinstraps are douche bags? I think chin straps can actually define weak jawlines and help out guys with chunkier faces, but I also think there are social connotations to having chinstraps. Jeez, I'm really contemplating facial hair here.

That one is a tough call. I've seen a few that I didn't find unattractive, let's say, but it does go against my natural instinct.

My husband used to have an attractive chinstrap before he started moving up in his field. He shaved it not because he thought it looked bad but because he thought there was a social connotation attached which might play into how his higher ups judged him. At the time he had an older (and racist, though that's another story) boss and was trying to assimilate to his workplace.

oscarwao

Empireceo said:

Freddie Mercury is the greatest lead singer of all time. If this is a UO, standby for my GBCB diatribe, you unsupportive hateful meanieheads.

And the owner of the greatest handlebar moustasche of all time

awc1986

busterbeagle said:

I really want to get DH tickets to see Morrissey for father's day, even though we can't afford it, I will be like 6 weeks PP, and he's at least a prince of the d-bags. (ETA: That's probably not even an UO, just a comment on the rock and roll theme.  Unless you think Morrissey is a prince of another sort.)

I love Moz. DH and I are big fans and have seen him several times. I'm actually from Manchester, UK, so I think that's partly why DH married me. I did take him to see Salford lad's club once. I think he was a bit scared.

It's a shame you can't go, but I'm with you on the inconvenience thing. Pearl jam are playing near(ish) us when I'll be 6 wks PP and it would involve an overnight stay. Ain't gonna happen. Breaks my heart.

Oh and Morrissey is the court jester of d-bags. I get it, you've got a major hard-on for animals. No need to impose your views on others. I've been a veggie for 20 years and its nobody's business but my own.

awc1986

hfooter said:

kimberlykl2009 said:

awc1986 said:

ljbreck said:

IBackBevo said:

I guess the UO today should be titled drugs, sex and rock n roll. 

So who is going to take on the rock n roll issue? 

I guess I will. I don't care for U2. There I said it, I feel so free!

I FUCKING HATE U2. 

bono is king of the d-bags.

I'm so happy to see I'm not the only one who doesn't like U2.

I can't really speak too much when it comes to music. I love to sing, and I love it when the lyrics are more than just the same shit repeated over and over again. But I hardly listen to music, not even when working and rarely in the car. That is unless I feel like singing.

Wait what?! If you don't sing in the car then what do you do? The car is the studio and I am the star.

Mittens14

hfooter said:

I thought of another one: I am completely convinced that pregnancy brain is a real phenomenon. 

I feel like my IQ has fallen about 20-30 points during both of my pregnancies and I can't remember anything.  I often have to look up how to even spell basic words or will go into a room to do something and forget what I went in there to do. Just this morning, I went into my bathroom to make sure I had unplugged my chi and then once I got back downstairs, I could not remember if my chi was unplugged.    

God it is so real. I had no idea the toll pregnancy would take on my brain! And to make it even better a lady said to me, "it never goes back to normal." Please reassure me I will not feel this stupid for the rest of my life!

Not that this will happen to everyone, but mine never fully came back after DS, it improved in the months after I had him, but I used to have the BEST memory, I could remember everything and now... not so much...

sheriot

No UO, but re: chin strap/facial hair: a girl in my office had her BF come in to exchange keys with her today. This guy usually has a beard, or at least a 5 o'clock shadow. Apparently he decided, without telling her, to shave it into a very thin chin strap that kind of hugged his mouth. When he walked in she turned around and said, "Holy sh*t, what is that? A vagina on your face?" His face turned beet red and he couldn't get out of the office fast enough. 

...Admittedly, he did a poor job and it kind of did resemble a landing strip of sorts. 

yvanehtnioj

Empireceo said:

Freddie Mercury is the greatest lead singer of all time. If this is a UO, standby for my GBCB diatribe, you unsupportive hateful meanieheads.

When I first met my husband I found out he is also of this opinion. It made me fall in love a little more.

Xath

ebox322 said:

I think long engagements are lame. Anything longer than like 8-9 months just seems ridiculous (without a good reason). I don't really understand waiting to be done with school or until someone gets a decent job to be a reason for waiting to get married. My cousin has been with her fiancé for 12 years (started dating when they were 14) and got engaged a year ago valentines day, their wedding isn't until Sept 2015...really? 2 1/2 year engagement? Why?

I had a longer engagement. We had planned on getting married within a year, but my SIL got engaged at around the same time and they announced their date first (3 weeks after our planned date). I didn't want to deal with stressing everyone out with 2 weddings so close. Also, my parents offered to pay for our wedding, and they were happy for us to push back a year because our original date was only a few months out from my sister's Bat Mitzvah, and it gave them extra time to save.

So we ended up with a 2 year engagement. The wedding was more of a formality anyway; we'd been living together and has merged finances for a few years, so it was more like an amazing party with paperwork.

MamaLlama14 said:

There is an acquaintance on my FB page who has a new pyramid scheme every month.

...

It's annoying enough to begin with since she changes her mind on her career path as often as I change my underwear...

:-S

hfooter

OK. This hopefully will not be an UO, but we will see

I cannot stand it when a woman can not fight her own battles and has her DH step into the mix. I'm talking about civil battles with other women, not being attacked on the street or what not.

Please tell me you all fight your own battles without running to your husband to rescue you!

KateBee

UO's: 

• Love Morriseey. 
• Dislike U2. 
• Love beards. 
• I also love a non-obnoxious amount of chest hair on a guy.   
  

Mimaloo

hfooter said:

OK. This hopefully will not be an UO, but we will see

I cannot stand it when a woman can not fight her own battles and has her DH step into the mix. I'm talking about civil battles with other women, not being attacked on the street or what not.

Please tell me you all fight your own battles without running to your husband to rescue you!

I went to my husband once. His cousin, who never says more than the obligatory hello/goodbye to either one of us, started giving me shit, on FB, for not showing up to Christmas Eve (several people had, were getting over, or coming down with the full-blown flu and I didn't have a flu shot). I was so pissed because of all DH's family members, he's the absolute last one who should be saying anything to me for a number of reasons. 

I told DH about it before I responded because I was so mad that I was going to lose my shit and I didn't want to start a family feud (DH's aunt is very sensitive about her son). DH called him and talked about it. 

End of story, cousin had a problem with "not being able to talk to me" so I let loose anyway in the end. That shut him up so I should have just done it in the first place but again, I was trying not to start anything because when I'm mad, there is no filter. 

IBackBevo

I heart facial hair and chest hair, too! I like a manly man.

lavendergiraffes

RachelCA29 said:

I don't know if this will be controversial or not, but yesterday I learned that Jr and Sr Kindergarten is optional in Ontario. And now my husband and I are considering not sending our kid to school until grade 1.

Now, this isn't just to be different or anything, I have 2 main reasons. In the past 5 years Kindergarten has gone to all-day, which I have never been a fan of, even before we were thinking about having kids. Knowing what I know about the curriculum (I used to educational research on math and science curriculum), what kids do in all-day "kindergarten" is really not more than a well structured day-care. And I feel like the provincial government only introduced all-day JK and SK is as an election thing to make parents happy to save them childcare costs (Jk/SK is free, daycare is private and isn't). I don't think the all-day program was actually designed to improve kids education, and I like the idea of starting kids on a 1/2 day schedule to get them used to the routine without the drain of being in a classroom all day at age 4 (which daycare isn't like school in so many ways, and I LIKE that difference).

Also, my husband and I were recently listening to a documentary about education in many parts of Europe where kids don't start school until age 7, because there is a belief in allowing kids under 6 to just be kids and not worry about school. And I kind of like that attitude.

Obviously if we didn't start our kids until grade 1 we would do A LOT of education at home (even if we did start them at Jk/SK we will be doing that), and/or some sort of pre-school versus daycare at age 4 or 5. But I feel like having the option to limit the classroom time for a kid that young is something I would personally want, if we could financially afford it (clearly I would need to stay home and/or pay for private pre-school or Montessori program). I think our families will think we are nuts if we don't start our kids in Kindergarten, but it is something I am strongly considering.

I'm a kindergarten teacher in Illinois and I don't know how it is in Canada but that would upset me if it was 'daycare.' Kindergarten is not what it used to be... It's what first grade was when I was in school. The things they have to know when they leave my room blow my mind. Again, I don't know their standards and I'm not saying you wouldn't prepare your child but.... I have kids that come in not knowing how to write their name and it scares me to think that maybe some of these kids wouldn't show up till first grade. They would be so behind!! Also, I don't know how Canada is with education but in most other countries (besides the US) the focus and importance on education at home is very centered. For us, the half day is what preschool is for. Developmentally they should be starting that structure at that age. I'm not judging you at all just know that this is what I know about kindergarten in the US. and like you said, if you worked at home you'd probably be fine.

lavendergiraffes

awc1986 said:

Rocknroll64 said:

LoveIsAll25 said:

The only thing I could think of that most people don't agree with me is open marriages. I believe in open marriages. 

The reaction I receive when I tell someone this IRL: 

I think open marriages are a recipe for disaster.  Eventually your partner will fall in love with someone else.  Trying to separate sex and love is a bad idea and it usually never works out.

Also, why would you marry someone if you want to be with other people? 

This.

The idea of marriage is that you want to be with only that person for your whole life. If you're not content to be with just that person, then don't be married to them. 

The only reason is agree is if it works for you and your man. It spices things up when they're getting boring. We've 'experimented' a couple times but we talked about it ahead of time both times and we were completely open and honest with each other about what happened. I love my husband very much and if either of us were not agreeing then we would respect that. It definitely does not work for everyone but it made our sex life better after both experiences!! Haha

Also, it probably will not continue from now on. Cannot see doing it with a child. Weird.

Xath

Edit: spent 20 minutes typing a post on my tablet. When I clicked save comment, it posted the above instead. Deleted my whole post. I hate my tablet right now.

spacepotatoes

@libbylu7 I haven't looked at the curriculum documents for the new full-day Kindergarten but I do know that it's supposed to be play-based learning. The curriculum here has been emphasizing discovery/inquiry learning across all levels over the last decade, with varying success. But I think that's why people say it's glorified day care. There is still structure and learning taking place but it's not really a formal setup. There have been some studies done about how it's worked out since it was introduced but results have been mixed.

mileswithmyles

hfooter said:

OK. This hopefully will not be an UO, but we will see

I cannot stand it when a woman can not fight her own battles and has her DH step into the mix. I'm talking about civil battles with other women, not being attacked on the street or what not.

Please tell me you all fight your own battles without running to your husband to rescue you!

I only make DH deal with his mom. Everyone else I can handle on my own.

oscarwao

sheriot said:

No UO, but re: chin strap/facial hair: a girl in my office had her BF come in to exchange keys with her today. This guy usually has a beard, or at least a 5 o'clock shadow. Apparently he decided, without telling her, to shave it into a very thin chin strap that kind of hugged his mouth. When he walked in she turned around and said, "Holy sh*t, what is that? A vagina on your face?" His face turned beet red and he couldn't get out of the office fast enough. 

...Admittedly, he did a poor job and it kind of did resemble a landing strip of sorts. 

sheriot said:

No UO, but re: chin strap/facial hair: a girl in my office had her BF come in to exchange keys with her today. This guy usually has a beard, or at least a 5 o'clock shadow. Apparently he decided, without telling her, to shave it into a very thin chin strap that kind of hugged his mouth. When he walked in she turned around and said, "Holy sh*t, what is that? A vagina on your face?" His face turned beet red and he couldn't get out of the office fast enough. 

...Admittedly, he did a poor job and it kind of did resemble a landing strip of sorts. 

Yah, I feel about chin straps/facial hair that you definitely need a good barber to pull it off, if you don't fade that ish out it looks awful. I men trying to do it themselves is the equivalent of women trying to do their own highlights... Probably not going to turn out great unless you've got real skills with grooming.

Xath

Attempt #2: If my tablet deletes everything again, I may shit a brick.

My UO: I don't really get the newb hate. I know that some people have been posting here since before the pee finished drying on the stick, and that's great. But I don't see how that connotes some sort of authority in what can/should be posted by others. This is a public internet forum. You want a place with a more discerning membership and content filter? Post on the BMB Facebook page.

My low-stress guide to reading May 14 (and other internet forums):

Someone posts an AW post and you don't know them/care about them? Ignore it!

Someone posts a question that's been asked/answered 50 times already? Ignore it! Or if I'm feeling nice and have free time, give them a friendly hello and a tutorial on how to use the search function.

Someone asks an absolutely moronic question? Ignore it! (return later to read the dramaz)

Someone starts a thread that's a duplicate or similar to another active thread? Ignore it! Or post a redirect link in the response.

I'll never understand why so many people find it necessary to take the time to tell someone how much of a waste of their time it is to respond to their post. Counterintuitive much? Or how people flame an AW post by telling them how they don't deserve the attention yet, thus giving them attention for the thing you don't want them to do... (This approach will get us all in trouble with our future toddlers)

It seems as though there are many people on this board with expectations of how other people should behave (especially new ones). But we don't make that terribly obvious by having a "New to May 14? Start Here!" sticky. Noobs aren't psychic; if they were, they probably wouldn't piss so many people off. Expecting that people will lurk long enough to get a sense of how this forum functions before ever posting is irrational in this age of instant internetz gratification. So instead what happens is that some new people get instantly flamed away for the offense of being new, when they might have been awesome new members of the community if we'd just given them more of a chance.



tl;dr Why all the newb hostility?

RachelCA29

libbylu7 said:

I don't know if this will be controversial or not, but yesterday I learned that Jr and Sr Kindergarten is optional in Ontario. And now my husband and I are considering not sending our kid to school until grade 1.

Now, this isn't just to be different or anything, I have 2 main reasons. In the past 5 years Kindergarten has gone to all-day, which I have never been a fan of, even before we were thinking about having kids. Knowing what I know about the curriculum (I used to educational research on math and science curriculum), what kids do in all-day "kindergarten" is really not more than a well structured day-care. And I feel like the provincial government only introduced all-day JK and SK is as an election thing to make parents happy to save them childcare costs (Jk/SK is free, daycare is private and isn't). I don't think the all-day program was actually designed to improve kids education, and I like the idea of starting kids on a 1/2 day schedule to get them used to the routine without the drain of being in a classroom all day at age 4 (which daycare isn't like school in so many ways, and I LIKE that difference).

Also, my husband and I were recently listening to a documentary about education in many parts of Europe where kids don't start school until age 7, because there is a belief in allowing kids under 6 to just be kids and not worry about school. And I kind of like that attitude.

Obviously if we didn't start our kids until grade 1 we would do A LOT of education at home (even if we did start them at Jk/SK we will be doing that), and/or some sort of pre-school versus daycare at age 4 or 5. But I feel like having the option to limit the classroom time for a kid that young is something I would personally want, if we could financially afford it (clearly I would need to stay home and/or pay for private pre-school or Montessori program). I think our families will think we are nuts if we don't start our kids in Kindergarten, but it is something I am strongly considering.

I'm a kindergarten teacher in Illinois and I don't know how it is in Canada but that would upset me if it was 'daycare.' Kindergarten is not what it used to be... It's what first grade was when I was in school. The things they have to know when they leave my room blow my mind. Again, I don't know their standards and I'm not saying you wouldn't prepare your child but.... I have kids that come in not knowing how to write their name and it scares me to think that maybe some of these kids wouldn't show up till first grade. They would be so behind!! Also, I don't know how Canada is with education but in most other countries (besides the US) the focus and importance on education at home is very centered. For us, the half day is what preschool is for. Developmentally they should be starting that structure at that age. I'm not judging you at all just know that this is what I know about kindergarten in the US. and like you said, if you worked at home you'd probably be fine.

Really for me, the thing I don't like is that the difference between what is supposed to be and what it actually is, is staggering. As @spacepotatoes said, there is a curriculum, but it's really just glorified daycare because the curriculum applied differently in each school and it seems too advanced for what 4 and 5 years can actually manage to do for 8 hours a day. So by the end of the year the expectation of what kids will take away from it is really low anyway.

It does scare me what kids that start kindergarten and grade 1 DON'T know. It used to be so much of what you learned before school was parent taught, home based learning. When I started kindergarten (1/2 day) I could write my name, count to 20, I knew the colours, basic reading words, etc. My husband was the same. Why? Because our parents taught us those things. I feel like now the school system is set-up to be a child's ONLY source of education because so many parents just don't read, interact, etc. with their young kids the way they should. I know for a lot of people that isn't necessarily bad/neglectful parenting (if mom and dad need to work 60+ hours a week to put food on the table, of course kids aren't going to learn early reading skills at home).

I think the reason I would consider skipping kindergarten is to ensure that my kid would be prepared above and beyond the "starting grade 1" standards, by taking it into my own hands. I'm not saying I could do it better than a teacher, it's politicians that make the decisions, (like full day Kindergarten which was really an election ploy to basically offer parents free all-day childcare to get votes IMO) and they aren't making great decisions. I think I could do a better job than politicians could, because the standards and plans they are setting are kind of low, but at the same time, it puts so much pressure on these young kids to be in a classroom setting for 6+ hours a day.

I think your point about kindergarten and grade 1 standards from when we were in school to now is probably more accurate than I would want to believe. But I also see the amount of homework. etc. that so many young kids have and it makes me sad. We are putting so much pressure on kids and they have no time to be kids. Like, maybe the standards for us when we finished grade 2 or 3 were lower than today. But is that a bad thing? I didn't have homework until at least grade 4, I had time to go outside and play. And I am a successful university graduate with a great, fulfilling career. I don't get why we're trying to cram so much more into elementary education and just stressing these young kids out. Who sets these standards? People that are so out of touch to what a classroom and kids are actually like. I think teachers, that are in classrooms daily should be WAY more involved in creating curriculum and classroom standards. I think that classrooms and lessons would be a lot different (and probably better for kids) if someone with in-classroom perspective was more involved in the big decisions.

ETA: to clarify and add a missing term.

IBackBevo

Wow! That is a lot of thought put into newbies @gertiebarden.

Xath

IBackBevo said:

Wow! That is a lot of thought put into newbies @gertiebarden.

@IBackBevo It seems to be something that generates a lot of angst. Repeatedly.

Granted, I love reading drama, but it seems like it could be easily fixed.

spacepotatoes

RachelCA29 said:

It does scare me what kids that start kindergarten and grade 1 DON'T know. It used to be so much of what you learned before school was parent taught, home based learning. When I started kindergarten (1/2 day) I could write my name, count to 20, I knew the colours, basic reading words, etc. My husband was the same. Why? Because our parents taught us those things. I feel like now the school system is set-up to be a child's ONLY source of education because so many parents just don't read, interact, etc. with their young kids the way they should. I know for a lot of people that isn't necessarily bad/neglectful parenting (if mom and dad need to work 60+ hours a week to put food on the table, of course kids aren't going to learn early reading skills at home).

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Trapped in the quote box, dammit.

Anyway, yes, yes, and YES to the bolded. I'm not even going to start in on how the math curriculum and standardized testing are a total disaster. But they do keep pushing more and more into the curriculum that used to get taught outside the classroom and it leaves much less time on the essential things we should be doing in the classroom.

One example is that with the latest curriculum revisions, we are now expected to integrate personal finance into everything (in high school). Not just math classes, but every subject across the curriculum needs to incorporate personal finance education. I'm all for raising kids with a sense of financial responsibility and an understanding of how that stuff works, and I get that a lot of parents are financially illiterate themselves, but does that mean it really belongs in an English class, say? Do English teachers not have anything more pressing to cover during that time?

Sorry, this one hit a nerve for me! Rant over.

oscarwao

@spacepotatoes I wish I were left alone to teach English. My school uses English class as an audit system, since almost every kid has an English class - we lose valuable days to eye exams, photo days, finance lessons, character lessons,'Internet safety lessons, bleh! So annoying.

hfooter

hcorcoran said:

OK. This hopefully will not be an UO, but we will see

I cannot stand it when a woman can not fight her own battles and has her DH step into the mix. I'm talking about civil battles with other women, not being attacked on the street or what not.

Please tell me you all fight your own battles without running to your husband to rescue you!

I only make DH deal with his mom. Everyone else I can handle on my own.

Haha yes. I can understand this completely.