Pregnant after IF

Anyone attempting a vbac after IVF?

I am asking for a girl on a vbac community I am on.  She is doing IVF and concerned that healthcare providers are saying no because of her ART history. Not her health history, but because she used IVF to get pregnant. They are telling her no ONLY because she got pregnant through IVF and had a prior c=section.  Basically, they are telling her no because they claim IVF automatically makes you high risk so no vbac???  This makes zero sense to me. I think they are just looking for an excuse to tell her no.  Please let me know your experience...what did you doctor tell you?
IF DX: DOR & Fragile X pre-mutation carrier
2011: FSH 13.3 & E 99; AMH 0.54 2nd FSH 6.2 E 40's AFC: 8
BFP from Clomid/IUI ~ Pre-e and IUGR during pregnancy ~ DS born 9/4/12
Feb./March 2013: AMH less than 0.16 (undectable) and AFC = 4;
BFP from supps ~ DS#2 due May 2014

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Re: Anyone attempting a vbac after IVF?

  • We havnt talked too much about it yet, I am only 11w, but I am hoping for a natural birth :) she hasn't said anything to contradict me yet!
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  • I went through IVF and had a c section with DD1. I think that sounds ridiculous! My OB and I already had the discussion that if I wanted to try a VBAC we can play it by ear. Our only concern is that my water broke early (at 35 weeks) and I failed to progress after being in labor for 4 days which resulted in a c section. It has nothing to do with IVF!
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    First Time: DD born 3/2011 after trying for two years, LAP, and two IUIs w/ Femera + Ovidrel
    This Time: 4/12 Femera IUI #1 BFN, 5/12 Femera + TI BFN, 6/12 Femera + IUI #2 BFN, 7/12 Femera + IUI #3 BFN, 8/12 Follistim IUI #4 BFN
    IVF #1: ER 11/5/12 : 17 eggs retrieved/6 fertilized, ET 11/10/12 : 5dt of 2 embies/0 frosties BFN
    IVF #2: ER 1/28/13 : 12 eggs retrieved/9 fertilized, ET 2/2/13 : 5dt of 2 embies/0 frosties BFN
    IVF #3: ER 4/15/13 : 13 eggs retrieved/7 fertilized, ET 4/18/13 : 3dt of 3 embies/0 frosties BFN
    Laparoscopy 5/24/13 : Stage 2 Endo, Scaring, and Both tubes Blocked but successfully Opened
    IVF #4 (Clinical Trial): ER 7/22/13 : 15 eggs/8 fertilized, ET 7/25/13 : 3dt of 3 embies/0 frosties BFN
    IVF #5: ER 11/4/13 : 13 eggs/12 fertilized, ET 11/9/13 : 5dt of 2 embies/0 frosties BFP!!! Beta 11/20/13 = 447 1 Beautiful Baby! EDD: July 28, 2014
  • I went through IVF and had a c section with DD1. I think that sounds ridiculous! My OB and I already had the discussion that if I wanted to try a VBAC we can play it by ear. Our only concern is that my water broke early (at 35 weeks) and I failed to progress after being in labor for 4 days which resulted in a c section. It has nothing to do with IVF!
    That is what I said! But then some posters were saying, "Oh no, IVF makes you higher risk."  I told them that I did not think that was innately true.  I think there are certain medical conditions that made it where you had to have IVF in the first place that can also equate to you being high risk and, therefore, not a candidate for a VBAC...but having IVF alone would not automatically exclude you from a vbac without some other reason. 

    Of course, I doubt the people saying this had ever actually been through IVF (or even ART) themselves.  One linked to an article to prove a point and it was an article about OHSS increasing the risk...she didn't even seem to "get" that not every IVF pregnancy involves OHSS.  In fact, most don't.   
    IF DX: DOR & Fragile X pre-mutation carrier
    2011: FSH 13.3 & E 99; AMH 0.54 2nd FSH 6.2 E 40's AFC: 8
    BFP from Clomid/IUI ~ Pre-e and IUGR during pregnancy ~ DS born 9/4/12
    Feb./March 2013: AMH less than 0.16 (undectable) and AFC = 4;
    BFP from supps ~ DS#2 due May 2014

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  • Huh??? IVF makes you high risk!?!?
    I have never heard of anything do dumb
    Me:35,  DH: 39   
    TTC since March 2011. All bloodword, SA & HSG are normal.  
    8/12: Clomid & TI - BFN 
    10/12: Colmid & TI - BFN 
    3/13:  Clomid, Trigger & IUI - BFN 
    4/13: Gonal F, Trigger & IUI: BFN  
    6/13: IVF #1 (1AA blast & 1BB blast) = BFN 
    8/13: FET #1= BFN
    10/13: FET #2= BFP!!!

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  • IVF doesn't make you high risk, it's just the reason for some women.  For me, I had tubal issues (as do a lot of women who conceive via IVF) and after the point of implantation, my pregnancy is just as normal as any other - except that I've got twins.  If they really think it's b/c of IVF, I'd find another OB, because I'd assume they're not experienced enough to handle my pregnancy anyway.  However, it might be a possibility that they're referring to the reason she had to do IVF, not the procedure itself, that makes her high risk.  Either way, I'd look for clarification or a new OB.  
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  • IBackBevo said:

    I am asking for a girl on a vbac community I am on.  She is doing IVF
    and concerned that healthcare providers are saying no because of her ART
    history. Not her health history, but because she used IVF to get pregnant. They are telling her no ONLY because she got pregnant through IVF and had a prior c=section.  Basically, they are telling her no because they claim IVF
    automatically makes you high risk so no vbac???  This makes zero sense
    to me. I think they are just looking for an excuse to tell her no. 
    Please let me know your experience...what did you doctor tell you?

    IVF does not make you high risk, although there is a common misnomer and assumption that it does. I did IVF for genetic screening, so it does partially depend on your reason for doing IVF, but it's not an automatic risk!. I'm planning to give birth naturally and at home with a midwife. Midwives won't keep/take on a high risk patient, because its outside their scope of practice, and they can be sued for malpractice if they take on tough medical cases. My GP doctor told me a couple years ago not to buy into the myth that ART automatically makes you high risk. there is no evidence for that. That's all proof enough for me.

    However, VBAC-friendly hospitals are harder to find, and her VBAC and TOLAC puts her at a very slightly increased risk of uterine rupture. Unfortunately, this will make it more challenging for her to find a hospital-based provider who will allow her a TOLAC. Midwives know that VBAC is healthy and safe (with some risks), but often this means the birth would have to occur out of hospital since hospital policies are not up to date about the safety of VBAC.

    I hope your friend finds a great care provider.
    | Married since 2008 | DH and I: Both 30 | Me: Endometriosis and Carrier of an X-Linked Dominant Genetic Disorder | DH: Low Morph | Planning IVF with PGD and PGS in 2013 | Freeze-All IVF #1: March 2013 ER 3/26. 29R, 12M, 11F. 4 5AA frozen blasts. Freeze-All IVF#2: May 2013 ER 5/15. 31R, 21M, 20F. 6 5AA frozen blasts. Our PGD probe was completed in late June (total of 20 weeks to develop). PGD and PGS Results came on 6/19: 3 healthy embryos (normal chromosomes and unaffected by my family's genetic disorder). FET #1: July 2013 Natural Cycle - Cancelled due to insufficient lining (only got to 7.5mm). FET #1.2: August 2013 - Medicated Cycle with Lupron & Estrogen Patches to build up lining. Single embryo transfer was 8/23. Beta #1: 240! Beta #2: 578! U/S on 9/19 at 6w4d: We saw the heart beating at 131bpm. Second U/S on 10/4 at 8w5d: We saw the heart beating at 178bpm. EDD 5/11/2014
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  • Ha! That's silly. Just because my DH has crap sperm does not mean anything in terms of high risk or not. Totally calling BS on her OB. 

    Also, I did have a c-section with my first. I'm having a RCS for this next one too based on the way the incision was made which makes me high risk. If it wasn't for that, I'd qualify for a VBAC if I wanted one. 


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  • Tell your girl that we did IVF, my OB marked my chart as High Risk b/c they wanted nurses/secretaries to always work me in if I call in needing an apt, and my OB was all for VBAC even when I got GD and we were worried he was big.  Thankfully he came at 38 weeks, was still a nice full 8 pounds and I didn't have to be induced.  You don't want to be induced for a VBAC b/c the potocin can make the contractions come too fast and tear your incision.  But if she goes into labor on her own she should be ok.  We had decided to set a c/s end date for 40 weeks on the dot, but didn't even get to schedule it b/c he decided to come early!  GL to her and tell her to not let them bully her into a c/s.  Its her body. 
    TTC#1: 14 months on our own (did HSG, b/w, SA);
    BFP on Cycle 14--TWINS! Identical twin boys stillborn at 19wks(1/9/10)
    3 break cycles; took clomid 50mg, BFP #2 Beta #1 35, Beta #2 338!!! Owen was born 2/11/11! 
    TTC#2: 4 cycles on clomid: BFNs
    BFP #3: Cycle #5 100mg clomid; beta #1 21; beta #2 6=CP 
    Cycle #6 break cycle TTC no meds=BFN
    Cycle #7: 150 clomid+ovidril+IUI=BFN (switched to RE)
    Cycle #8: follistem+ovidril+TI=BFN
    Cycle #9 Forced break due to cyst
    Cycle #10 follistem+ovidril+TI=BFN
    Cycle #11 follistem+ovidril+TI=BFN
    Cycle#12 Forced break due to cyst, went on BCP; did repeat HSG, Saline U/S
    Cycle #13 IVF: Follistim/Menapur ER 11-30 11 eggs, 5 mature, 4 fertilized and 3dt on 12-3; BFN
    Cycle #14: IVF#2 lupron/follistim/menopur ER 1-22, 19 eggs, 14 fertilized, 5dt on 1-27, BFP!! beta 1: 63, beta 2: 119; EDD 10-15-13; 1 frozen embie
    Miracle Surprise BFP, EDD 10-1-15; saw HB great Betas, 11weeks lost baby MC at home
    Moved forward with FET transfered solo frostie on 6-4-15, beta 1: 315, beta 2: 738, u/s showed one baby on track EDD 2-21-16
  • I've never heard that IVF is considered High Risk. The only thing I can think of is that some drs. want an echo-cardiogram performed at 21 weeks or so on IVF babies to check the heart. But, it doesn't make the whole pregnancy high-risk...
    I'm diabetic, and did IVF, and my OB is very on board with me having a natural vaginal birth!
    Me 28 DH 30 Married 08-11-07 TTC since 07/11 HSG 01-21-13 Left FTB Seeing RE 1-28-13 RE 1-28-13 Both tubes blocked LAP surgery 2-15-13 Both tubes removed Started IVF #1 June 2013 Meds: BCP, Lupron, Gonal-F, Ovidrel, Medrol, Doxycycline
    Beta #1-BFP!!! HCG-55 Beta #2--111 Beta #3--2,825 Beta #4 22,031 1st U/S 7-29-13 Saw and heard our little sweet pea's heartbeat!! 109 bpm 


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