Also pajamas are not clothing. Put on some yoga pants if regular pants won't do. Scooby doo pants and a ratty TShirt not out of the house appropriate!
I agree!! DH and I had our first birth class on Tuesday and I was shocked at how many of the couples were dressed inappropiately. Pajamas are not clothes. Yoga pants are only clothes for the purpose of exercise or perhaps a quick jaunt to the store. Shoes (that are not house shoes) are required when making a public appearance!
I don't mind the etiquette posts on here, not because I think Emily Post is applicable to everyone's social circles / cultures -- at all. I guess I assume if folks are asking questions, they are truly interested in what "traditional" (for lack of a better word... my traditions are not everyone's... OF COURSE... yada yada yada, COVERING MY ASS HERE) etiquette has to say.
Personally, I know what is expected / appropriate in my community and social circle (and, contrary to how I tend to lean on these things, there are definitely parts of traditional etiquette I'd feel comfortable ditching), and I wouldn't post a question "is this tacky?" question if I knew my friends and family wouldn't find it so but others might... I'd just do it! I guess I assume other posters follow the same MO.
Also pajamas are not clothing. Put on some yoga pants if regular pants won't do. Scooby doo pants and a ratty TShirt not out of the house appropriate!
I agree!! DH and I had our first birth class on Tuesday and I was shocked at how many of the couples were dressed inappropiately. Pajamas are not clothes. Yoga pants are only clothes for the purpose of exercise or perhaps a quick jaunt to the store. Shoes (that are not house shoes) are required when making a public appearance!
Ehh, normally I'm with you, but for a birth class (I assume you're practicing positions and stuff?) I'd make an exception.
On days that have old snow on the ground yet streets, parking lots, and sidewalks are cleared and snow free, I feel no need for clunky snow boots that cause that horrible clomping sound. Days with snow falling and those times when snow is actually in the path of foot traffic sure! Snow boots are fine.
Sorry my snow boots are the warmest shoes I own, even if it is the driest most snow free day I'm wearing them. Winter is a bitch here.
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BFP #2 7/17/13, EDD 3/29/14 ended in a CP on 7/22/13.
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Working for the US government isn't all that it is cracked up to be. They claim great benefits but I'm having trouble seeing them at the moment...
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I actually jumped on my mom's health insurance (she works for the govt) this year so I can take advantage of the benefits. it's infinitely better than DH's insurance.
eta: but sorry you're not seeing it as a good thing right now!
How do you get health insurance through your mom if you are married? I thought you had to be a dependent to do that?
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Nope. Just below the age of 26, I think. It's a done deal!
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yep just have to be under 26. I'm still on my dad's insurance even though I have my own through the state. My personal one from work is great and covers *almost* everything. However, I can double submit my hospital bill to my 2ndary insurance too and pay almost nothing. Super stoked about that.
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On days that have old snow on the ground yet streets, parking lots, and sidewalks are cleared and snow free, I feel no need for clunky snow boots that cause that horrible clomping sound. Days with snow falling and those times when snow is actually in the path of foot traffic sure! Snow boots are fine.
Sorry my snow boots are the warmest shoes I own, even if it is the driest most snow free day I'm wearing them. Winter is a bitch here.
This! Plus I live in Ohio and weather changes every 7 minutes so it could snow at any moment. May I also state the traction? Us prego women can't fall
As to etiquette: when I got married I was absolutely clueless. I didn't grow up wanting a wedding so when I got engaged I went into wedding planning with zero knowledge, background, or idea as to how to do things. But I was very concerned with doing things the "proper" way and not offending people. So I asked about etiquette. I consulted books and all those oh-so-helpful articles about "the right way" to do things and as a result, looking back, I missed out on a lot of fun and took away a lot of people who loved me's opportunity to bless me and my upcoming marriage, particularly when it came to my showers.
So now, as a new mom, I'm way less concerned with what Miss Manners says, and say I do what I want. Obvs I'm not a gift-grabby person, but MY circle of friends in MY laid-back Bay Area culture could care less about Miss Manners and Emily Post. And if the 70-year -old grandmas at my church don't care about giving second showers for second babies, neither do I. So it bugs me when people online think all etiquette rules apply to all people and that's why I don't ask strangers on the internet for their opinions on my choices regarding etiquette, because I couldn't care less if they think I'm uncouth.
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I got pregnant through my birth control, 2 weeks after getting laid off. I'm 4 weeks away from my unemployment running out with 12 weeks left of my pregnancy, am seriously struggling to find a job, and my husband only makes $11 an hour at his job. Should I have aborted?
My UO is that I don't understand people's need to constantly piss and moan about social assistance, welfare and the like.
My guess is should these people actually ever NEED these services their attitudes would change very quickly. How lucky for them that they don't...and in the meantime, they have this perception that what, people on welfare cruise around in Limousines with a pool in the trunk? Sippin' some bubbly?
I think public asst, welfare etc is def a society necessity and don't think less of peeps who need it....that being said I don't think luck has a lot to do with myself not needing it. I have a cousin who is always telling DH and I how lucky we are to have good jobs....I think it's cuz we worked our butts off to get there, saying its luck it's kinda insulting. I don't think you meant it that way, just drives me nuts when I see it.
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My UO is that I don't understand people's need to constantly piss and moan about social assistance, welfare and the like.
My guess is should these people actually ever NEED these services their attitudes would change very quickly. How lucky for them that they don't...and in the meantime, they have this perception that what, people on welfare cruise around in Limousines with a pool in the trunk? Sippin' some bubbly?
I think public asst, welfare etc is def a society necessity and don't think less of peeps who need it....that being said I don't think luck has a lot to do with myself not needing it. I have a cousin who is always telling DH and I how lucky we are to have good jobs....I think it's cuz we worked our butts off to get there, saying its luck it's kinda insulting. I don't think you meant it that way, just drives me nuts when I see it.
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You ARE lucky you don't need it. I have a great job too that I worked my ass off to get. I went to University, did all the things that you're 'supposed' to do. That doesn't make you impervious to lay-offs, illnesses, cut-backs and the like. (Or in many people's case, they go to school and STILL can't find employment in their field of study.)
Being a hard worker does not equal having a good job with good pay. Anything can happen, no matter how fantastic your current position may be.
Ex. Teachers or social workers.
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BFP #2 7/17/13, EDD 3/29/14 ended in a CP on 7/22/13.
BFP#3 8/19/13 EDD 5/3/14 Nerdling was born 4/29/14, welcome little one!
Also pajamas are not clothing. Put on some yoga pants if regular pants won't do. Scooby doo pants and a ratty TShirt not out of the house appropriate!
Ugh AMEN! I went to the market the other day, and walked into the store behind a chick (who was there with her husband!) wearing a Broncos sweatshirt, red Angry Birds flannel PJ pants, and slippers, with her hair in a messy ponytail. Seriously?! At least I get myself dressed and presentable before going in public; you obviously think it's OK to roll out of bed and just go. I rolled my eyes so hard.
I got pregnant through my birth control, 2 weeks after getting laid off. I'm 4 weeks away from my unemployment running out with 12 weeks left of my pregnancy, am seriously struggling to find a job, and my husband only makes $11 an hour at his job. Should I have aborted?
I am in the same boat as you Jenny. I got laid off a month and half ago and am on unemployment through May. We live paycheck to paycheck and my hubby is in sales so we never know what we are going to get. He has 2 bachelor degrees but got laid off from his well paying job and took the job her currently has. Should we have aborted as well, even though I am 32 and hubby is 40 and we ain't getting any younger?
The first thing several of you ought to do is not assume people are always talking about YOU or your situation. The second thing you ought to do is listen to more Michael Jackson in your life. Might I suggest "Wanna be Startin' Somethin'".
The first thing several of you ought to do is not assume people are always talking about YOU or your situation. The second thing you ought to do is listen to more Michael Jackson in your life. Might I suggest "Wanna be Startin' Somethin'".
Clarify a blanket statement then.
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BFP #2 7/17/13, EDD 3/29/14 ended in a CP on 7/22/13.
BFP#3 8/19/13 EDD 5/3/14 Nerdling was born 4/29/14, welcome little one!
Listen to the song. Or ask a clarification question. And welcome to the UO thread. I wasn't aware I was supposed to give excruciating detail here. I've seen others criticized for long posts also. Do you guys even want new people to post on this board, or would you prefer to just talk amongst the ten of you?
The first thing several of you ought to do is not assume people are always talking about YOU or your situation. The second thing you ought to do is listen to more Michael Jackson in your life. Might I suggest "Wanna be Startin' Somethin'".
We aren't taking it personally! We are showing you that your original statement was vague and damn near ignorant! MANY Americans are facing the issues that Jenny is facing. It's not like people get pregnant intentionally knowing that they can't provide for baby. I too got pregnant on birth control and I would like to be making more than I am.
Well, I am pleased to hear you are not taking it personally. Because it was not intended that way. Not towards anyone on this board. Now, towards the single woman I met while volunteering through Children's Services who recently had her eleventh child, had never worked a day in her life, freely expressed her desire to have more children to get more benefits, and neglected the kids she already had...well, it may have been directed at her if she were within range to hear me say it.
Thank you for clarifying. I get the point of the UO thread, hence my point. And there is no stick, currently. At the moment my mid-section is so over-packed I fear there would scarcely be room for so much as a twig.
I feel a GBCB coming on pretty soon! @rockstaaw you can't expect to participate in UO and NOT have people question you UNPOPULAR opinion. That's the whole point!
I'm ok with people questioning my unpopular opinion. I knew what thread I was posting in. I did not want any of you to think it was specifically directed at any of you, though. Honestly.
I'm so bummed that I have to go pick up DS from daycare and miss all the fun that is about to happen. Just put me down as a +1 for whatever @dani+california says. I shall return.
Everyone's replying so quickly so I'm just gonna sneak in here and say I don't understand why so many women try to "prevent" stretch marks or dislike theirs. I hope I get some..!
Well, I am pleased to hear you are not taking it personally. Because it was not intended that way. Not towards anyone on this board. Now, towards the single woman I met while volunteering through Children's Services who recently had her eleventh child, had never worked a day in her life, freely expressed her desire to have more children to get more benefits, and neglected the kids she already had...well, it may have been directed at her if she were within range to hear me say it.
This shouldn't make you leap to the "if you can't afford a baby, you shouldn't have one" statement. That is a harmful blanket statement, not something to be conjured up by your one run-in with this woman (who, I agree, is a real piece of crap if kids for benefits is her life goal).
Exactly. The original statement was full of privilege and condescending tones.
It's called an "Unpopular Opinion" not "Blanketly offensive Opinion".
Just because you had a run it with a woman who abuses the system does
not mean that every person who lives paycheck to paycheck shouldn't
breed because "Children don't come with a money tree".
Who thought it was a good idea to make maternity shirts that tie in the back? Half the time I'm trying to keep from dropping the ties in the toilet, the other half I am leaning against a knot in my back.
My UO is that I don't understand people's need to constantly piss and moan about social assistance, welfare and the like.
My guess is should these people actually ever NEED these services their attitudes would change very quickly. How lucky for them that they don't...and in the meantime, they have this perception that what, people on welfare cruise around in Limousines with a pool in the trunk? Sippin' some bubbly?
I think public asst, welfare etc is def a society necessity and don't think less of peeps who need it....that being said I don't think luck has a lot to do with myself not needing it. I have a cousin who is always telling DH and I how lucky we are to have good jobs....I think it's cuz we worked our butts off to get there, saying its luck it's kinda insulting. I don't think you meant it that way, just drives me nuts when I see it.
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I will say this... I am far to the right of many (dare I say most) on this board... But I know lots of hard working,smart people who have been very unlucky. I have worked very hard to have a good job but I also feel lucky to be employed in the field I am in (law). The industry has taken a nose dive and I have many friends who are really struggling and have not been able to catch a break.
I get being unlucky...I just don't like it when my success is accounted for for just luck
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Thanks state of Nebraska for paying for my c-section delivery with DD because DH got laid off 5 weeks before she was born and I was on strict bed rest! I totally planned that just to piss people off.
My UO: I didn't, and still don't care for Friends. Did it have funny moments? Yes, but as a whole, I didn't find it funny.
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FB GAME REQUESTS.
Ok ok, live in New England and tell me boots are bad in public.
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So now, as a new mom, I'm way less concerned with what Miss Manners says, and say I do what I want. Obvs I'm not a gift-grabby person, but MY circle of friends in MY laid-back Bay Area culture could care less about Miss Manners and Emily Post. And if the 70-year -old grandmas at my church don't care about giving second showers for second babies, neither do I. So it bugs me when people online think all etiquette rules apply to all people and that's why I don't ask strangers on the internet for their opinions on my choices regarding etiquette, because I couldn't care less if they think I'm uncouth.
Baby Girl Born: April 2014
If you ask me what I came to do in this world, I, an artist, I will answer you:
I think public asst, welfare etc is def a society necessity and don't think less of peeps who need it....that being said I don't think luck has a lot to do with myself not needing it. I have a cousin who is always telling DH and I how lucky we are to have good jobs....I think it's cuz we worked our butts off to get there, saying its luck it's kinda insulting. I don't think you meant it that way, just drives me nuts when I see it.
POS+April 2009-M/c May 2009, POS+July 2009-M/c Aug 2009, POS+ Novemeber 2009 -Baby Boy Charlie DOB 07/06/2010, POS+July 2011-M/c and D&C Aug 2011, POS+Dec 2011 -Baby Boy Ethan DOB 07/27/2012, POS+Aug 2013-TWIN BOYS! Jack and Miles born March 23rd 2014!!
You ARE lucky you don't need it. I have a great job too that I worked my ass off to get. I went to University, did all the things that you're 'supposed' to do. That doesn't make you impervious to lay-offs, illnesses, cut-backs and the like. (Or in many people's case, they go to school and STILL can't find employment in their field of study.)
Being a hard worker does not equal having a good job with good pay. Anything can happen, no matter how fantastic your current position may be.
Ex. Teachers or social workers.
Yours truly,
Number 10
Seriously though, number 7 has been my favorite since I was a kid. Is that weird?
Exactly. The original statement was full of privilege and condescending tones.
Then I peed on a stick...
I get being unlucky...I just don't like it when my success is accounted for for just luck
POS+April 2009-M/c May 2009, POS+July 2009-M/c Aug 2009, POS+ Novemeber 2009 -Baby Boy Charlie DOB 07/06/2010, POS+July 2011-M/c and D&C Aug 2011, POS+Dec 2011 -Baby Boy Ethan DOB 07/27/2012, POS+Aug 2013-TWIN BOYS! Jack and Miles born March 23rd 2014!!
My UO: I didn't, and still don't care for Friends. Did it have funny moments? Yes, but as a whole, I didn't find it funny.