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Preseed- MC?

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I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I'm sure some of you have experience with this.  I've read that using preseed could increase your chances of having a MC or birth defects, does anyone have any experience with this or know this to be untrue?

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  • jjsmommy0714jjsmommy0714 member
    No experience but doubt it. If it were true I doubt so many people would swear by it.


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    Since it's made specifically for conception I would highly doubt that. Where exactly did you read this, babygaga?

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  • Josie400Josie400 member
    I've heard that too, but when I did more research it sounds more coincidental than anything else.
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    wickedsugar said:
    sgdc2011 said:
    I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I'm sure some of you have experience with this.  I've read that using preseed could increase your chances of having a MC or birth defects, does anyone have any experience with this or know this to be untrue?

    TIA
    Umm what ??  It's a TTC safe lube, very highly unlikely, I would love to see your sources..
    I forget where I saw it, I think it was another forum/reviews page of it and it was mentioned several times, which is why it made me think twice. 


    Josie400 said:
    I've heard that too, but when I did more research it sounds more coincidental than anything else.
    I was thinking this could be it too, but figured I would see if I got any more opinions here.
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  • Josie400Josie400 member
    My thought is people may seem like they are reporting more miscarriages because of the lube, when in reality some couples choose to use because they are having some difficulties already on their own. So when it ends in miscarriage it may be a reason other than the preseed.
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    WhoCanItBeNow said:
    twink0073 said:
    Yikes! I sure hope that isn't true!
    Try reading the responses first. Christ.

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    twink0073 said:
    I read them! I just was saying that would suck if that was the case since I just started using it. Sorry I came off sounding like an idiot.
    You didn't sound like an idiot. I'm sure you're not the only one who thought that after reading this thread.

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    Twinkie0612 said:

    Ok, I got curious and googled. According to the reputable advice of babycenter.com message boards ::eyeroll:: it's because it helps more genetically weaker sperm get through.  This is just stupid reasoning.  First preseed would only affect the vaginal environment (and the impact is probably insignificant).  Even if it does hep more "genetically weaker" sperm get to the cervix, they still gave to make it through the cervix, through the uterus, into the Fallopian tube, and fertilize the egg.  That's a big task for that "genetically weaker" sperm.  This logic also assumes that genetic issues correlate to motility issues, which is not necessarily true.  Secondly, from what I have learned from IVF, most poor quality embryos are a result of chromosome issues and are usually an egg not a sperm issue.

    Called it! Ok it was babycenter and not babygaga but close enough.


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    If lube could cause MCs, humanity would have been wiped out a long time ago.
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  • Lily9911Lily9911 member
    sgdc2011 said:
    I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I'm sure some of you have experience with this.  I've read that using preseed could increase your chances of having a MC or birth defects, does anyone have any experience with this or know this to be untrue?

    TIA
    Even though I used Pre-seed and had a MC, I doubt it was related. 75% of first time pregnancies end in early MC, and that is the number that is of known pregnancies. 
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  • beckynsean11beckynsean11 member
    Lily9911 said:
    sgdc2011 said:
    I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I'm sure some of you have experience with this.  I've read that using preseed could increase your chances of having a MC or birth defects, does anyone have any experience with this or know this to be untrue?

    TIA
    Even though I used Pre-seed and had a MC, I doubt it was related. 75% of first time pregnancies end in early MC, and that is the number that is of known pregnancies. 
    You seriously need to do some more research. 


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  • beckynsean11beckynsean11 member
    MeatandBandP said:
    beckynsean11 said:
    Lily9911 said:
    sgdc2011 said:
    I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I'm sure some of you have experience with this.  I've read that using preseed could increase your chances of having a MC or birth defects, does anyone have any experience with this or know this to be untrue?

    TIA
    Even though I used Pre-seed and had a MC, I doubt it was related. 75% of first time pregnancies end in early MC, and that is the number that is of known pregnancies. 
    You seriously need to do some more research. 

    I'm pretty sure she just likes to continually talk out of her ass. 
    Very likely. You are wise.

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  • Lily9911Lily9911 member
    MeatandBandP said:
    Lily9911 said:
    sgdc2011 said:
    I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I'm sure some of you have experience with this.  I've read that using preseed could increase your chances of having a MC or birth defects, does anyone have any experience with this or know this to be untrue?

    TIA
    Even though I used Pre-seed and had a MC, I doubt it was related. 75% of first time pregnancies end in early MC, and that is the number that is of known pregnancies. 
    75% of first time pregnancies end in miscarriage? I would love to see where you got that statistic. 

    I think you are reading the stats wrong. 20% of pregnancies end in miscarriage, 75% of those miscarriages are considered chemical pregnancies. 

    Also, people lets use some logic here in regards to the original question. 
    CP is technically a MC. It's a pregnancy that failed. 
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  • beckynsean11beckynsean11 member
    Lily9911 said:
    MeatandBandP said:
    Lily9911 said:
    sgdc2011 said:
    I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I'm sure some of you have experience with this.  I've read that using preseed could increase your chances of having a MC or birth defects, does anyone have any experience with this or know this to be untrue?

    TIA
    Even though I used Pre-seed and had a MC, I doubt it was related. 75% of first time pregnancies end in early MC, and that is the number that is of known pregnancies. 
    75% of first time pregnancies end in miscarriage? I would love to see where you got that statistic. 

    I think you are reading the stats wrong. 20% of pregnancies end in miscarriage, 75% of those miscarriages are considered chemical pregnancies. 

    Also, people lets use some logic here in regards to the original question. 
    CP is technically a MC. It's a pregnancy that failed. 
    Yes a CP is technically a MC. If you read, roughly 20% of all pregnancies end in a mc. Of that 20%, 75% are CP. That does not = 75% of all pregnancies end in mc. That = 75% of all miscarriages are due to CP.

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    Lap & hysteroscopy scheduled for 10/31, right tube cleared, no endo found! ...Happy Halloween!
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  • Lily9911Lily9911 member
    MeatandBandP said:
    Lily9911 said:
    MeatandBandP said:
    Lily9911 said:
    sgdc2011 said:
    I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I'm sure some of you have experience with this.  I've read that using preseed could increase your chances of having a MC or birth defects, does anyone have any experience with this or know this to be untrue?

    TIA
    Even though I used Pre-seed and had a MC, I doubt it was related. 75% of first time pregnancies end in early MC, and that is the number that is of known pregnancies. 
    75% of first time pregnancies end in miscarriage? I would love to see where you got that statistic. 

    I think you are reading the stats wrong. 20% of pregnancies end in miscarriage, 75% of those miscarriages are considered chemical pregnancies. 

    Also, people lets use some logic here in regards to the original question. 
    CP is technically a MC. It's a pregnancy that failed. 
    Yes, no shit. 

    The statistic is 75% of the 20% of pregnancies that end in miscarriage, are chemical pregnancies. Let me take this to your level...

    If 100 people get pregnant, 20 of them will miscarry. Of those 20 people that miscarry, 15 of them will be from a chemical pregnancy. 
    Exactly. 
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  • beckynsean11beckynsean11 member
    JFC, I quit.

       Me: IR-PCOS, elevated DHEAs, low progesterone, weak ovulation  DH: low volume, low T
    SHG 5/10/13: both tubes blocked; HSG 6/28 = Left tube cleared! Right blocked.
    BFP#1 7/20/13 EDD 3/30/14, m/c 8/19/13, D&E 8/21/13, Chromosomal results = normal, female
    Lap & hysteroscopy scheduled for 10/31, right tube cleared, no endo found! ...Happy Halloween!
    Cycle 14: Clomid (50)+ IUI = BFP! EDD 9/16/14~ Rowan Elizabeth born sleeping at 17w4d on 4/12/14 due to IC.
    ~There is no foot too small that it cannot leave an imprint on this world~
    New RE June 2014. RPL b/w - negative. SIS looking for uterine/cervical abnormalities & Asherman's 6/10/14 - ALL CLEAR!  
    Cycle 16: Natural IUI = CP, Cycle 17: Femara (2.5) + IUI = BFN, Cycle 18 Femara (5) + IUI = BFFN, Cycle 19: Break
    Cycle 20: Clomid (50)+ IUI = BFP EDD 6/20, transvaginal cerclage 12/19, Carson Quinn born sleeping at 16w3d on 1/6/15 due to IC
    Phone consult with Dr. Haney (Univ of Chicago) for transabdominal cercalge scheduled for 2/9/15.
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  • Twinkie0612Twinkie0612 member
    MeatandBandP said:
    Lily9911 said:
    MeatandBandP said:
    Lily9911 said:
    sgdc2011 said:
    I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I'm sure some of you have experience with this.  I've read that using preseed could increase your chances of having a MC or birth defects, does anyone have any experience with this or know this to be untrue?

    TIA
    Even though I used Pre-seed and had a MC, I doubt it was related. 75% of first time pregnancies end in early MC, and that is the number that is of known pregnancies. 
    75% of first time pregnancies end in miscarriage? I would love to see where you got that statistic. 

    I think you are reading the stats wrong. 20% of pregnancies end in miscarriage, 75% of those miscarriages are considered chemical pregnancies. 

    Also, people lets use some logic here in regards to the original question. 
    CP is technically a MC. It's a pregnancy that failed. 
    Yes, no shit. 

    The statistic is 75% of the 20% of pregnancies that end in miscarriage, are chemical pregnancies. Let me take this to your level...

    If 100 people get pregnant, 20 of them will miscarry. Of those 20 people that miscarry, 15 of them will be from a chemical pregnancy. 
    Math is fun.

    Except when the problem is about m/c.

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  • Lily9911Lily9911 member
    MeatandBandP said:
    beckynsean11 said:
    JFC, I quit.
    I was just going to say the same thing. I just can't. 

    Please all other posters do not listen to anything Lily says. 
    Because I know nothing about pregnancy....

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  • Lily9911Lily9911 member
    edited December 2013
    15-20% of recognized pregnancies will result in a MC, 75% are those of a CP.  I realize that I flipped that number around. Apologies. 

    Edit: Sorry, I didn't actually even mention the 15-20% part in my original point. 
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  • lebradfordlebradford member
    edited December 2013
    @Lily9911

    Just admit that you made a mistake. We pride ourselves on giving *true* information here so that we don't end up like the idiots on babycenter that caused this thread in the first place.

    So, yeah, feel free to just admit that you were wrong. Any time now.

    ETA - I'll leave my original post, but I see that you've posted while I was typing. Thank you.
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    lebradford said:
    @Lily9911 Just admit that you made a mistake. We pride ourselves on giving *true* information here so that we don't end up like the idiots on babycenter that caused this thread in the first place. So, yeah, feel free to just admit that you were wrong. Any time now.
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    Glad I just wasted 5 minutes of my life reading this idiotic thread.

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