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  • awc1986 said:
    My UO this week:

    I think doulas are completely and utterly pointless. Why the hell do you need to employ someone to act as a go-between during your birth? Put your big girl pants on and deal with it yourself. When it gets to the point that all you can do is yell at people, get your birth partner to talk to the doc. I think doulas are just a waste of time and are generally hired by the kind of people who like to act as though they're the only person on the planet to give birth. 
    I agree.  I just don't understand why you would have to pay someone to do a job that your husband is supposed to be doing.  People might laugh at me for this, because we all know that sometimes (most times) our husbands don't always know what to do, but I feel like between the two of us we can get the job done.  Even amongst the chaos.  I'm kind of looking forward to the chaos actually lol. Yes I know all the STM's are rolling their eyes at me.
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  • JessElam said:
    I'm shocked that no one has started this already...I'll go first.

    I promise I'm not a totally insensitive bitch, but it really bothers me when people become so consumed with a celebrity death.  We have heard so much about the Paul Walker death - people hanging out at the accident scene, countless reports on what exactly happened, cause of death (which seems pretty obvious to me).  It's not just with this death either - when that guy from Glee died from a drug overdose people were crying, etc.  I understand that they are fans of said actors, but I don't understand becoming so consumed with an actor that you become emotionally invested in them and what happens to them.  There are so many people in our communities who should be looked up to - many of these actors who have fans who idolize them are pretty f'd up people (not necessarily speaking of Paul Walker, just in general).  

    And then to piggy back off of that, the media just glorifies these events.  Any type of tragedy that happens, the media exploits it so damn much.  I know we are coming up on the Sandy Hook killings and I am really dreading how the media is going to exploit the families of those poor babies.  Believe me, I cried like a baby when it happened and in the days after because I couldn't help but imagine my own child in that situation.  It's a parent's worst nightmare.  I just hate how the media really just turns everything tragic into a circus.  Let the people mourn without a microphone and camera in their face.

    Wow...that became much longer than I expected.  Sorry!
    Me too. When Paul Walker died (not that it wasn't sad) I was thinking about all the other losses of life that occur that no one even mentions. 
    Samesies. While I appreciate that it was a tragic accident and that he left a teenage daughter behind, i think people are blowing it out of proportion. What baffles me is that they're making him out to be an amazingly credible actor and a huge loss to the acting community when apparently he was only in the Fast & Furious franchise. I haven't seen any of the movies, but i doubt they're Oscar worthy. 

    I think we have a tendency to put people on a pedestal once they pass that isn't necessarily reflective of their life. While it's still incredibly sad, it just seems weird to me that every media outlet still has it as a big news item. 

    I feel the same way about Kurt Cobain. I don't think he was all he was cracked up to be and he actually comes across as a bit of a dick (watch the Kurt & Courtney documentary). I am, however a massive Pearl Jam fan, so it's not unfair to suggest that i'm biased. 

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  • My UO: I don't trust chiropractors. I don't judge anyone who chooses to use one, I just peronally have zero intention of ever doing it and I can't stand the thought of allowing infants and young children to get adjusted.

    One of my best friends is marrying a chiropractor and he's part of the Maximized Living...movement, for lack of a better word. They're very strongly antivax and the BS and misinformation he spews is infuriating. He and his colleagues really don't help make a good argument for the credibility of chiropractors. My friend has a health science degree and she's still bought into his crap, and spreads the same BS "studies."

    Not all chiros are antivax. The one we go to seriously changed my opinion of them, I went as a last hope for walking normal again and it worked. They have also fixed DS's reflux issues without reflux meds. They didn't discourage the meds, that was my personal opinion formed from my own research and discussions with the pedi. When I mentioned it to the pedi, she was 100% on board and thrilled that we finally stopped his constant spitting issues!

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  • awc1986 said:
    My UO this week:

    I think doulas are completely and utterly pointless. Why the hell do you need to employ someone to act as a go-between during your birth? Put your big girl pants on and deal with it yourself. When it gets to the point that all you can do is yell at people, get your birth partner to talk to the doc. I think doulas are just a waste of time and are generally hired by the kind of people who like to act as though they're the only person on the planet to give birth. 
    I'm considering it because I don't know if I can trust my husband to not be a panicky mess if he thinks I'm in a lot of pain and/or something starts to go awry. He's a big softy, and while I have no doubt that he will be incredibly supportive, I just don't know how he'll handle all the possible scenarios. Because we've never done it before. Also, many doulas provide after birth support as well.
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  • My UO: I don't trust chiropractors. I don't judge anyone who chooses to use one, I just peronally have zero intention of ever doing it and I can't stand the thought of allowing infants and young children to get adjusted.

    One of my best friends is marrying a chiropractor and he's part of the Maximized Living...movement, for lack of a better word. They're very strongly antivax and the BS and misinformation he spews is infuriating. He and his colleagues really don't help make a good argument for the credibility of chiropractors. My friend has a health science degree and she's still bought into his crap, and spreads the same BS "studies."
    I have gone to a chiropractor who has helped me with my back/neck pain when nothing else has so I don't discount them. I think they are great for this purpose...but NOT for general medical advice or as your general practitioner. And I roll my eyes so hard when people call them "doctors" (implying they are = to medical doctors) or when someone says "my doctor said..." when they are referring to their chiropractor. Yes, I know that they technically have a doctorate (I do, too, but never call myself a "doctor"), but my understanding is that they have about 4 years of training in their field...which, in my mind, does not put them on par with even a "family practice" MD or DO who, at a minimum, has at least 11 years of vigorous training in all aspects of medicine.
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  • "Christians" like @Laura_Elaine scare the hell out of me. I'm not Christian but I know some very wonderful Christians who are actually very kind and loving. Then there's her kind. And her kind is what makes me realize that what I believe may be better than what her kind preach. I'm pretty sure being humble is a good thing..she apparently doesn't know the meaning of that word...
    *Quizzical look* Because posting on a public discussion board (any topic) is humble...? Actually, I guess I fail to see how humility factors in at all. I do what's right for me, and will suggest it to others who ask what to do in a certain situation, but I in no way try to claim I have it all figured out of that my way is the best/only way. I merely said I don't ask for the opinion of strangers, internet or otherwise. That does not mean I don't have input from trusted mentors/advisors (not sure of the right word to use here, but I'm sure you have a group of real-life 'counselors' you run some things by and don't base every decision (parenting, pregnancy, or otherwise) on what internet strangers say...) And I don't really like the attention, which is why I had hoped you all could get on with your lives as I get on with mine, but alas... more of the same today. Now you don't think I should post/comment on anythig anymore?
    I stayed out of it yesterday, but you're getting on my last nerve.  No one said you shouldn't post anything.  BUT, you caused a shitstorm yesterday with your spanking antics, and you come back on today to tell everyone that in addition to spanking your kids for not eating you also spank them to avoid child proofing your house.  No one wants to hear about how you spank your kids, so you should just stop posting about that
    Actually, someone did comment (not in the UO thread) that they were surprised I was back on here posting in other threads this morning. I'm okay with droppig thw subject, but isn't this the place where we can just dump stuff we want to say. Every day has a thread that's labeled according to the day, but basically the same type of thing. (FFFC, UO, WTF Wednesday, 10 Things Tuesday, Minday Bishfest... how are these threads different other than the day they're posted on?)

    To answer the bolded, they're different becuase they all mean different things.  You can speak your mind, but you created a bad perception of yourself based on how you "discipline" your kids.  That's something you just have to live with since it's something you wanted to share.  You're dealing with the consequences of that share now.  Most people disagree with you, myself included, that's all. 
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  • Laura_ElaineLaura_Elaine member
    edited December 2013



    "Christians" like @Laura_Elaine scare the hell out of me. I'm not Christian but I know some very wonderful Christians who are actually very kind and loving. Then there's her kind. And her kind is what makes me realize that what I believe may be better than what her kind preach. I'm pretty sure being humble is a good thing..she apparently doesn't know the meaning of that word...

    *Quizzical look* Because posting on a public discussion board (any topic) is humble...? Actually, I guess I fail to see how humility factors in at all. I do what's right for me, and will suggest it to others who ask what to do in a certain situation, but I in no way try to claim I have it all figured out of that my way is the best/only way. I merely said I don't ask for the opinion of strangers, internet or otherwise. That does not mean I don't have input from trusted mentors/advisors (not sure of the right word to use here, but I'm sure you have a group of real-life 'counselors' you run some things by and don't base every decision (parenting, pregnancy, or otherwise) on what internet strangers say...)


    And I don't really like the attention, which is why I had hoped you all could get on with your lives as I get on with mine, but alas... more of the same today. Now you don't think I should post/comment on anythig anymore?

    To be honest I think many people on this BMB..and it seems from other boards have lost any respect they may have had for you. I know that on here there are a lot of "internet strangers" but I respect many of them and enjoy getting and giving advice to them. And yes, there is a respect for them. Obviously any advice we give you may not mesh with your "parenting techniques". Also I, quite frankly, do not want advice from you. Several individuals with backgrounds in psychology, behavior, and education, myself included, have told you that what are doing can be incredibly damaging. While it may "work for your family" you have NO clue what long-range effects you are having on your children. It is obvious that you do not have any education in child development otherwise you would know that what your children are doing is completely normal and a sign of a healthy development. Instead, you are hindering curiosity, development, and a sense of self. Those facts are based on real research. 



    I was a child psychology major for three years, before switching majors, actually. (Paying for college thru a PhD and not wanting massive student loans made it lose its appeal). There is also research to support our dicipline methods (outside of my experience, my church family's experience, and the Bible... which I mentioned yesterday, to everyone's great disdain), when they are applied properly and not taken out of context, as is what a lot of what happened yesterday. Obviously, there are books written that support DH and my viewpoint... books were referenced yesterday in the discussion and obviously are not obscure references.

    As for giving advice, no one has to 'take it.' Like, if someone asks what type of strollers STMs rec or whatever, and I rec mine, I'm not offended if someone goes with a model other than what I suggested. If someone purposefully says "well, this crazy lady has this type of stroller, so I don't want to be like her, so I'm purposefully not going to go with her suggestion, even if it's a good suggestion" ... that's a little weird to me. But it's not going to stop me from commenting just because people won't take my 'advice.'

    ETA I don't remember associations of who commented and what screen name... so I don't remember who you are or if/what you commented. But I do thank you for now being respectful in addressing me. I don't mind snark, but kind sincerity is appreciated too.

  • pandadair said:
    I'm annoyed with the way our siggy challenge works. It takes too long to come up with a new challenge, and the threads always get lost. 
    Then suggest something to improve it. I think it does too but it's the best way I could come up with. 
    Maybe on the 1st of the new month we could post a thread asking for what it should be, and the suggestion with the most "love its" wins? I didn't mean any disrespect, I certainly appreciate that you have taken the lead with posting the threads and whatnot! :)


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    Not gonna happen, but I am enjoying all these GIFs y'all find. I'm not a GIF-er myself, but it is fun to see. And I can understand the lure of "Hey, everyone! Go check out the crazy drama on the May 14 board!" (or wherever more crazy drama may occur), so I don't harbor resentment for anyone who was well meaning in their comment, however unnecessary the comment was.
    In all seriousness, might I at least suggest that you make your Facebook less private? I know your full name, where you live, that you made some garlic hummus two days ago, and that apparently your son really likes to dig into Nutella. I hope you didn't hit him for that after you took the picture.
    Umm... more private? I don't know what my damage is today.
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  • spacepotatoesspacepotatoes member
    edited December 2013
    IBackBevo said:
    My UO: I don't trust chiropractors. I don't judge anyone who chooses to use one, I just peronally have zero intention of ever doing it and I can't stand the thought of allowing infants and young children to get adjusted.

    One of my best friends is marrying a chiropractor and he's part of the Maximized Living...movement, for lack of a better word. They're very strongly antivax and the BS and misinformation he spews is infuriating. He and his colleagues really don't help make a good argument for the credibility of chiropractors. My friend has a health science degree and she's still bought into his crap, and spreads the same BS "studies."
    I have gone to a chiropractor who has helped me with my back/neck pain when nothing else has so I don't discount them. I think they are great for this purpose...but NOT for general medical advice or as your general practitioner. And I roll my eyes so hard when people call them "doctors" (implying they are = to medical doctors) or when someone says "my doctor said..." when they are referring to their chiropractor. Yes, I know that they technically have a doctorate (I do, too, but never call myself a "doctor"), but my understanding is that they have about 4 years of training in their field...which, in my mind, does not put them on par with even a "family practice" MD or DO who, at a minimum, has at least 11 years of vigorous training in all aspects of medicine.
    My mom sees one regularly to help with neck/shoulder pain that nothing else seems to relieve for her. I don't discount that it can work, which is why I don't judge other people for trying it. It's the chiros themselves that get me, especially the Maximized Living ones. They like to do exactly what they shouldn't be doing - give medical advice and call themselves medical experts. Anyone who swears that you can prevent and/or cure pretty much anything, from the diseases that we vaccinate for to infertility to cancer (he has said all of this), just by eating right and seeing a chiro regularly has zero credibility with me. I realize that they're not all like this but I've encountered so many of them since my friend met this guy that it frightens me how many people are being misled by their "expertise."

    ETA: "he" is my friend's fiance.
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  • Laura_ElaineLaura_Elaine member
    edited December 2013
    pandadair said:



    pandadair said:



    Peaceb0ne said:





    I'm annoyed with the way our siggy challenge works. It takes too long to come up with a new challenge, and the threads always get lost. 

    Then suggest something to improve it. I think it does too but it's the best way I could come up with. 

    Maybe on the 1st of the new month we could post a thread asking for what it should be, and the suggestion with the most "love its" wins? I didn't mean any disrespect, I certainly appreciate that you have taken the lead with posting the threads and whatnot! :)


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    Not gonna happen, but I am enjoying all these GIFs y'all find. I'm not a GIF-er myself, but it is fun to see. And I can understand the lure of "Hey, everyone! Go check out the crazy drama on the May 14 board!" (or wherever more crazy drama may occur), so I don't harbor resentment for anyone who was well meaning in their comment, however unnecessary the comment was.

    In all seriousness, might I at least suggest that you make your Facebook less private? I know your full name, where you live, that you made some garlic hummus two days ago, and that apparently your son really likes to dig into Nutella. I hope you didn't hit him for that after you took the picture.



    Umm... more private? I don't know what my damage is today.




    Well, I also posted on here about the hummus, and I've said what city I live in.

    But I did change the privacy settings... as I have said in other instances, my computer doesn't work, so I'm on mobile, and had to sit down for a while to figure out how to do it, but check!

    And no, Ethan did not get spanked for that... but isn't he a cutie!?
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  • ykristos said:
     I let my pup sleep on my bed and I don't think it's gross. People seem to be really passionately against it, but he gets bathed often, I change the sheets frequently, and he's the best damn snuggler I've ever met. 
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    I always wished I could do that. My Fatty smelled like butt no matter how many baths she got and she would shed everywhere. Dog snuggles are teh best!
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  • Laura_ElaineLaura_Elaine member
    edited December 2013
    pandadair said:


    ykristos said:

     I let my pup sleep on my bed and I don't think it's gross. People seem to be really passionately against it, but he gets bathed often, I change the sheets frequently, and he's the best damn snuggler I've ever met. 
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    I always wished I could do that. My Fatty smelled like butt no matter how many baths she got and she would shed everywhere. Dog snuggles are teh best!


    Ugh, I married into an 80-pound dog, and always said the worst part about getting married to DH was learning to sleep with Frank. (He's an American Bull Dog/Dalmation mix with blue eyes... DH named him Frank Sinatra, after the original Old Blue Eyes.) He has since learned, in 4.5 years of marriage, not to sleep in my side of the bed because I will make him move. :-p
  • jane8188 said:
    awc1986 said:
    My UO this week:

    I think doulas are completely and utterly pointless. Why the hell do you need to employ someone to act as a go-between during your birth? Put your big girl pants on and deal with it yourself. When it gets to the point that all you can do is yell at people, get your birth partner to talk to the doc. I think doulas are just a waste of time and are generally hired by the kind of people who like to act as though they're the only person on the planet to give birth. 

    Your doctor comes in the room to check on you like once. My husband is not trained is childbirth and pain management techniques, I know people give birth all the time, but I love my doula. If she weren't there I would have had a lot harder time. My son was sunny side up and back labor is ridiculous, my midwife just pushed me to get an epidural and had no plan to tell me he was ssu. My doula did and we did exercises to get him to flip and he did. I went from being stalled at a 2 for about 10 hours ( my labor started with my water breaking) to having the baby out with in a few hours. She was worth the small fee I had to pay. I switched midwives after that but I am still having my doula again. If someone would have said to me during labor to put my big girl pants on I would have slapped them. Labor fucking hurts.

    I'm happy with DH and my dad being at the hospital when i give birth and they have given birth to a total of 0 children between them. We have been giving birth for thousands of years without paying people to help us with "exercises" and, forgive me for being optimistic but i'm going to trust the dr's and midwives to look after me on the big day. My birth plan is and will remain "get the fucker out of me". As long as it's safe, I don't mind how it's delivered. My body is not as important as my baby's at that point, so if the Dr needs to tear me open in some way for the benefit of my child, so be it. I have a feeling that if someone i was paying way trying to get me to do exercises and listen to whale song, i'd rip her fucking face off. I come from a family with a heck of a lot of women in it and they have all given birth to multiple healthy children without the help of a doula. I'll be fine. 

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  • IBackBevo said:


    I'm not going to further comment on this matter at all because it just upsets me.

    Double "love" if I could!!!
  • tna112 said:
    The Elf on the shelf is cute but I think it's another game for moms to one-up each other for creativity. I'm always seeing the latest pictures of so and so's elf on Facebook. Ain't nobody got time for that!
    I don't post pictures of our elf George. I think that women who use it this way are missing out on something great with their children. My kids genuinely love George and we enjoy seeing what he has been into while we are asleep. George often teaches my children lessons....he is creative in his play and he is helpful to others. He guards important items (like presents) and plays with characters that are different than him. I know it all sounds ridiculous, but it doesn't have to be as bad as people make it!
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  • lv2011lv2011 member
    edited December 2013
    pandadair said:
    I'm annoyed with the way our siggy challenge works. It takes too long to come up with a new challenge, and the threads always get lost. 
    Then suggest something to improve it. I think it does too but it's the best way I could come up with. 
    Maybe on the 1st of the new month we could post a thread asking for what it should be, and the suggestion with the most "love its" wins? I didn't mean any disrespect, I certainly appreciate that you have taken the lead with posting the threads and whatnot! :)


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    Not gonna happen, but I am enjoying all these GIFs y'all find. I'm not a GIF-er myself, but it is fun to see. And I can understand the lure of "Hey, everyone! Go check out the crazy drama on the May 14 board!" (or wherever more crazy drama may occur), so I don't harbor resentment for anyone who was well meaning in their comment, however unnecessary the comment was.
    In all seriousness, might I at least suggest that you make your Facebook less private? I know your full name, where you live, that you made some garlic hummus two days ago, and that apparently your son really likes to dig into Nutella. I hope you didn't hit him for that after you took the picture.

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  • Ok, I just thought of an UO.  I took to TB and FB yesterday asking opinions on ring slings and one comment from a dude got me thinking....  I prefaced my post with the fact that what I love about the Sakura Bloom is that as I follow them on Instagram they frequently post pictures of fathers donning it (and looking quite sexy while doing so, might I add!). So this one guy commented and said to not go with a sling because he can hardly picture any husband wanted to where one while grilling....essentially saying it was a girly option.  Which then got me to thinking about the Diaper Bag thread where some mentioned getting a separate bag for their DH.

    My UO is... why?!?!

    I'm extremely thankful my husband is not too "manly" to care about the diaper bag he is carrying on his burly biceps or the wrap that is securing his baby to his big, hairy man chest.
    DH uses the same jj cole bag as me. Maybe if he was a SAHD then I would have considered getting him his own but then it's just 2 bags for me to keep track of (because face it, DH is pretty clueless as to what a day out with the baby requires) but he typically leaves the bag in the car/truck and grabs what he needs as he needs it because it's just quick stops. As for the douche's comment about it being girly, I present this pic. I got a k'tan in the beginning and DH asked if it was adjustable so he could wear it. I never thought he would want to baby wear! When DS hated the k'tan I looked into a more structured carrier that would allow me to put him on my back. We settled on the boba and DH wears him almost as much as I do!
    my heart is melting!! love the picture.
  • 83edwards said:


    tna112 said:

    The Elf on the shelf is cute but I think it's another game for moms to one-up each other for creativity. I'm always seeing the latest pictures of so and so's elf on Facebook. Ain't nobody got time for that!

    I don't post pictures of our elf George. I think that women who use it this way are missing out on something great with their children. My kids genuinely love George and we enjoy seeing what he has been into while we are asleep. George often teaches my children lessons....he is creative in his play and he is helpful to others. He guards important items (like presents) and plays with characters that are different than him. I know it all sounds ridiculous, but it doesn't have to be as bad as people make it!


    I wish some of my friends on Facebook saw it that way because I definitely think it can be a good thing. Kudos for making it a learning tool, I'm sure your kiddos love him! :)
  • pandadair said:


    awc1986 said:

    My UO this week:

    I think doulas are completely and utterly pointless. Why the hell do you need to employ someone to act as a go-between during your birth? Put your big girl pants on and deal with it yourself. When it gets to the point that all you can do is yell at people, get your birth partner to talk to the doc. I think doulas are just a waste of time and are generally hired by the kind of people who like to act as though they're the only person on the planet to give birth. 

    I'm considering it because I don't know if I can trust my husband to not be a panicky mess if he thinks I'm in a lot of pain and/or something starts to go awry. He's a big softy, and while I have no doubt that he will be incredibly supportive, I just don't know how he'll handle all the possible scenarios. Because we've never done it before. Also, many doulas provide after birth support as well.


    This exactly. And the fact that will your husband know that the doctor is about to do an episiotomy despite you saying no multiple times & it's not an emergency? Does he know what an amni-hook looks like? And sometimes I needed someone in my face directing my breathing or just staring into my eyes calming me & someone doing a double hip squeeze. Can't be in front & behind at the same time. And she stayed with my hubby & baby while I went to get stitched up. She initiated skin to skin with them, something the nurses didn't & he wouldn't have thought of on his own. They also are an invaluable resource for prenatal & postpartum resources in your community. Mine sent me to the best chiro I've ever had & then to an amazing mom's group after. She left me with a list of lactation consultants, groups, websites, all kinds of info. Which was really nice not having to scrounge around & find these things on my own.

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