Egg quality after delayed ovulation (from stress/miscarriage)

BeanQueen83

I had a chemical pregnancy last month and the doctor said it was ok for us to start TTC again right away. I thought I would ovulate on my regular day (CD17) since the miscarriage was so early, but so far it has been delayed about 10 days. I seemed to have symptoms leading up to ovulation, but it didn't happen. Now I am definitely having ovulation symptoms again and am thinking it will happen any day. At this point I'm on CD25, but I'm afraid the egg will be poor quality. I've heard there is debate on egg quality from late ovulation. But I'm more worried about the fact that it seemed to start and then stop and then started again. We've BD'd recently and now I'm afraid if we do get pregnant this month that I'll end up with another miscarriage. Anyone have BFP after an ovulation that was delayed like this? Trying to decide if we should keep at the babymaking this month or wait until next cycle.

TravelingCouple

You and me both @beanqueen83. I had a M/C at 6 weeks and my cycles are still out of whack since then I guess. Last month and this month I've geared up to O and haven't yet (with EWCM all month and almost positive OPKs very frequently throughout the month). I wish I had an answer for you, just wanted to share that you're not alone. My doctor told us we could try again right away too but I think I might wait until my cycles are a bit more regular. The stress of never knowing when I'll actually O and trying to keep up with BD is exhausting.

themrsJRD

I don't know specifics on egg quality, but I do know women get pregnant on very long cycles (twice as long as yours). Keep HIO and good luck.

BeanQueen83

Yeah I know! My husband is a really good sport but I don't think either of us enjoy the babymaking at this point. I keep hoping ovulation will come so we can just have a break from all the BDing haha

BeanQueen83

I'm not worried so much about the date of ovulation, more about the whole start-stop-start thing. Can't find much on the Internet about it

TravelingCouple

BeanQueen83 said:

I'm not worried so much about the date of ovulation, more about the whole start-stop-start thing. Can't find much on the Internet about it

I had read that too. Not sure how much truth there is to it or if there's any proof that supports it or rejects it. I bet it's hard to study because miscarriages can be caused by various different reasons. If you are like me, you're reading about every little sign because you want to prevent another loss with every fiber of your being. I know. I wish it was something we had control over, but it's not. Every day I'm trying to learn not to stress and just let it happen when it happens. It doesn't work too well most of the time. I hope you O soon!

emsrdh03

I ovulated on CD 27 the cycle I got my BFP. It ended in a miscarriage at almost 7 weeks though so I'm not sure that really eases your mind.

Pintobean39

I ovulate early and I've had two mc due to poor egg quality. I think it's just luck of the draw, or at least that's what I like to think. Also after my Mc's I always ovulated a little later than my normal, not sure if that has any relevance either.

TeacherGirl17

I was on a 75 day cycle when I conceived DS. I wasn't temping so I'm not sure when I ovulated but obviously very late. He is 15 months old now and very healthy.

buggirl72

I'm so sorry for your loss. Did you track your betas down? Even though you had a CP, you could have had low levels of HCG remain in your system for several weeks which may push back ovulation. Your body also may just need to recover. Some people ovulate earlier after a CP and some people end up with a longer cycle. Losses screw with your cycles.

TTCAL has multiple grads who ovulated later than where you are at in your cycle.  Try not to worry about poor egg quality until you actually have evidence that that is an issue.  For reference, I'm DOR and have craptastic egg quality - I ovulate anywhere between CD12 and CD23 with CD14 being the normal. My day of ovulation does not indicate if I have a good egg or bad egg that cycle.

BeanQueen83

Ghostmonkey- the start-stop thing is referring to the increase in fertile CM and symptoms of ovulation, like my follicule was developing to release an egg, but then something stopped it (stress?) and all symptoms went away. Now a few days ago (a week after my normal O date)the symptoms are back and my boobs are killing me (which always happens right before ovulation) so it seems I may finally ovulate. I've heard that false start can affect the egg quality.

Buggirl72- yeah doc took blood and my HCG level is zero. I'm not sure if the delay was from the miscarriage itself or the stress of it. Or possibly the stress of being furloughed with this whole government shutdown.

I'm not worried about CD25 being late on its own. It's the false start that worries me. Maybe that's stupid. I should probably not look this stuff up on the Internet and just keep BDing and see what happens. The miscarriage was just very hard. I'm so terrified it will happen again.

Valancyy

I don't know anything about this, I'm just curious what the science is behind supposed poor egg quality due to late ovulation? 

BeanQueen83

I don't know what the science is either. All this stuff is confusing. The Internet doesn't have much info and who knows what's true anyway. But if you google delayed ovulation egg quality it is 90% negative. We've decided to just ignore it this month and keep trying. I'll let you all know how it goes. I hope hope hope I don't have another CP.

bluebird0521

Just because you are not ovulating on CD 17 does not mean you have poor egg quality. Also, there is more concern about ovulating earlier than CD 11 and its relation to egg quality. Ovulating that early in the cycle may be a sign of poor egg quality, not delayed ovulation. 

I think the stress you are causing yourself by worrying about this is more concerning than the fact that you are ovulating on CD 27. Just relax and HIO. 

buggirl72

BeanQueen83 said:

Ghostmonkey- the start-stop thing is referring to the increase in fertile CM and symptoms of ovulation, like my follicule was developing to release an egg, but then something stopped it (stress?) and all symptoms went away. Now a few days ago (a week after my normal O date)the symptoms are back and my boobs are killing me (which always happens right before ovulation) so it seems I may finally ovulate. I've heard that false start can affect the egg quality. Buggirl72- yeah doc took blood and my HCG level is zero. I'm not sure if the delay was from the miscarriage itself or the stress of it. Or possibly the stress of being furloughed with this whole government shutdown. I'm not worried about CD25 being late on its own. It's the false start that worries me. Maybe that's stupid. I should probably not look this stuff up on the Internet and just keep BDing and see what happens. The miscarriage was just very hard. I'm so terrified it will happen again.

Just because your doctor cleared you to TTC does not mean you have to. Take time to grieve your loss and get in a better place emotionally. 

BeanQueen83

FYI telling people to "just relax" is not helpful. I'm a worrier by nature. Can't help it. I just want info.

amberhoothoot

BeanQueen83 said:

FYI telling people to "just relax" is not helpful. I'm a worrier by nature. Can't help it. I just want info.

I am also a worrier... which is why I don't ever google medical information if I can stay away from it.

I had a chemical last cycle. OB checked and found it was completed. She said we could try again right away. HCG was gone a few days later. I O'd 7 days later than normal. But I trust my doc over the internet.

I'm sorry for your loss. If you are still dealing with the emotional weight of the loss, maybe give yourself some time. Take care.

poptart109

I ovulated cd49 with DS and he's perfectly healthy. I wouldn't stress over it especially if you think stressing is going to delay it from happening. I agree with PP and maybe give yourself a break to process everything.

Pintobean39

Joy2611 said:

Pintobean39 said:

I ovulate early and I've had two mc due to poor egg quality.

How did they determine egg quality?  I'm curious.


@joy2611 I had chromosomal testing. I had at 14 week mc, and a 10 1/2 week mc. Last month I was only pregnant for a week and no testing but my dr said when its an early mc like that it's usually a chromosomal problem. I'm also at a higher risk for chromosomal problems because of my age. I think it doesn't matter if I o on Cd11 or cd49 I'd probably have some chromosomal problem. That's my kinda luck.

Pintobean39

Joy2611 said:

Pintobean39 said:

Joy2611 said:

Pintobean39 said:

I ovulate early and I've had two mc due to poor egg quality.

How did they determine egg quality?  I'm curious.

@joy2611 I had chromosomal testing. I had at 14 week mc, and a 10 1/2 week mc. Last month I was only pregnant for a week and no testing but my dr said when its an early mc like that it's usually a chromosomal problem. I'm also at a higher risk for chromosomal problems because of my age. I think it doesn't matter if I o on Cd11 or cd49 I'd probably have some chromosomal problem. That's my kinda luck.

Okay - that's what I figured they did.  But, I still have a question.  Maybe this is stupid?  But, how do they know that the chromosomal problems are coming from your eggs?  How do they know it's not the sperm?  How do they know it's not some funky stuff that happens during recombination when sperm and egg get together? 

I guess I'm curious how they know it's the egg that's the sole problem and not either sperm or downstream issues.

I'm too science-y headed.  I'm sorry!  :-)


Actually, I don't know I've just always assumed it is my egg because statistics have shown egg quality decreases with age. We are starting to go through the testing process as soon as cd3 gets here and I go to the dr next week to figure out our plan. I guess I will get some answers then.

BeanQueen83

I do temp and according to temps I haven't ovulated yet. I'm hoping it happens today. My temps have flatlined like they usually do before O and my cervix is really high and soft. Crossing my fingers. We did the BD the last two days but likely won't today because my mom is visiting overnight. We'll see what happens. If it works this month but turns into another CP I'll wait a month in between next time.

Ceridwen21

Don't overthink it. I'm a late-ish ovulator (average CD 22) and have had 1 successful pregnancy and 1 miscarriage, which is statistically normal.