Hi Everyone...I am not sure if my signature is still visible as this is my first post since The Bump has gone under some kind of makeover. I am wondering if I maybe have always been a late ovulater. For my son born 3/5/14 we did an FET, but before that we did the IVF and I think I remember my trigger shot being on CD 15...can't be too sure I did 14 days of stims. My LO is 12 months and I am only nursing him 2 times a day (morning and night). Last cycle I did clomid 50 mg and think I got a positive LH on CD 17...I had bad ovulation cramps the next day. Now I am on CD 14 and still no positive. We even upped the dose to 100 this round. I am trying my best to take my temp every morning but it's tough...you never know when your baby will wake up, when you might have to get up and pee in the early morning hours, or you might drop the thermometer under the bed. Info on clomid says you should ovulate 5-10 days after taking last pill...and cycle day 18 is not in that range. Any advice? I took mine CD3-7
Raising the dose doesn't necessarily mean you'll ovulate earlier, and the day you triggered with IVF has nothing to do with how you'll respond to clomid. Different drugs. Unfortunately it's one of those wait it out kind of situations.
I am surprised your dr is allowing you to BF and do fertility meds at the same time. Your hormones can be wonky even with limited BFing. Perhaps if you are willing to wean 100% you'd get a more consistent response to the clomid?
The only possible bad effect it could have on nursing is to make supply go down...which has not happened for me. It could also be not as effective due to prolactin levels, but I am only nursing twice a day. If I don't ovulate this time I'm going down to once a day and skipping a cycle. I hate to think i can only take this a limited number of times and nursing might not be allowing its full potential. I just wanted to try to get pregnant as close to "the real way" as possible before shelling out $4k for another FET with our last remaining embryos.
I am aware the negative effects BFing can have on your hormones which is why I mentioned it. To me it seems very irresponsible of your dr to allow you to cycle with clomid unmonitored while breastfeeding. That is just asking for problems in itself.
Also by calling intercourse conception "the real way" implies IVF is wrong or pretend and is offensive. Despite the fact you used IVF to conceive your first.
Can I ask what makes you think that if you needed IVF to conceive the first time that you will conceive without going that route again? I mean like did something change drastically?
Also, aren't you a little bit worried about the effects of clomid that is passed through your breastmilk? There are no studies to say it is safe for your baby.
Lastly it is a bit insulting to come onto a board where a great many of us have conceived or are ttc through IVF, yourself included, and say you want to conceive the "real way". Maybe this was just a bad choice in words, but none the less it was insulting to most of us.
DD conceived after 3 years of ttc.
MFI - DH had varicocele repair and took Clomid to get DD b. 02/2010
TTC #2 since 6/2010 10/2012 DH diagnosed with Epilepsy A few failed IUIs summer 2012 and 2013. DH taking clomid and waiting to see if he needs another vericocele repair. Hoping for a 2015 baby or babies. Wishing, hoping, waiting.
Sorry ya'll find it insulting. My friends and I that have all undergone fertility treatments call it just that...the old fashioned way, the real way, etc...I'm here asking for help, not to be chastised for my choice of words because some people can't take a tongue in cheek comment that meant no harm.
And to the person who asked why I am trying this, I just am. We have unexplained infertility so it is just a shot in the dark. My husband doesn't have the best sperm, so I don't think it will work, but I need to feel like I am doing SOMETHING. We can't go through with our last embryos yet.
And I am being monitored btw. My OB is giving me ultrasounds.
If you're being monitored then you would have a pretty darn good idea of when you're ovulating. Also, think before you speak in front of an audience you're unfamiliar with. If you say something offensive be prepared to get negative responses! Taking Clomid just to try with unknown risks involved to your breastfeeding child is something I can't comprehend but I like to say things the real way!
Carly
(Former UN: iloveshanej)
Birdie born 05/01/2007 Rainbow Surprise Baby due 05/26/2017
I didn't ask for your opinion about nursing with clomid. I am asking people about taking clomid and not ovulating within the 5-10 day range. So if you can't answer that questions, move on.
Again, I used the term REAL to describe things like food for instance...I only eat real food...which to me means organic, unprocessed, natural. I used the term here in the same way-the real method, the natural way, the way without assistance. I am sorry some people are a little overly sensitive about the way I presented it, but it meant no harm. We are all in the same boat here and attacking someone looking for answers because YOU took something the wrong way is what I see going on here. My doctor is on board with me nursing through clomid and I did tons of research on the topic as well to get comfortable with it. I don't need your opinions on this.
Did you read the board description? You didn't did you? Every person on this board is using some form of assistance to have a baby. Please tell me you are not naieve enough to think that 'real' wouldn't hurt some feelings. You just posted on a board full of women not using a 'real' method to have a child. Come on!
Kid #1 - 09/03/12
Kid #2 - maybe???
Diagnosed with Severe Ashermans Hysteroscopy #10 - scar tissue grew back reblocking my right tube #11 or IVF with scarring still inside? 1 lone embryo from September 2016 retreival, dx with Trisomy 16, starting fresh
As far as the clomid goes, I think you're still within the range of 5-10 days you were given. In my person experience clomid can take longer to cause ovulation than femara. With my daughter, my last pill was CD 9, ovulation wasn't until CD 21. Fertility is not predictable, so be patient.
Are you getting ultrasounds at midcycle or just after you get a positive lh? You should be requesting a check to see if your follicles are getting too large prior to ovulation.
If you offer info on a public board, be prepared to get feedback about everything. Not just the question you wanted answered. In our experience, breastfeeding can change your hormones making it difficult to predict response to fertility treatment. Since your question was about response to fertility treatment, the breastfeeding is relevant and applicable to your question.
Get real! If I am blessed enough to get a baby conceived through IVF he/she will be real. Same with the food I eat, just becaus it isn't organic doesn't make it not real.
You came on here asking for opinions, and my opinion is to hold off on the clomid until you are ready to be done nursing. The BFing could be causing issues, and like I said there have been almost no studies on the effects of clomid passed on through BFing.
DD conceived after 3 years of ttc.
MFI - DH had varicocele repair and took Clomid to get DD b. 02/2010
TTC #2 since 6/2010 10/2012 DH diagnosed with Epilepsy A few failed IUIs summer 2012 and 2013. DH taking clomid and waiting to see if he needs another vericocele repair. Hoping for a 2015 baby or babies. Wishing, hoping, waiting.
I agree with @AprilDrew04, get real and move on! If you don't want opinions, don't post on a forum! You're definitely of real is unreal and delusional. It is offensive and yet you still keep saying it. it seems as though you are "not real" on this board so FO!
Carly
(Former UN: iloveshanej)
Birdie born 05/01/2007 Rainbow Surprise Baby due 05/26/2017
BFP #4 2/18/14. EDD 10/30/14... Ruptured ectopic with L tube removed & D&C 3/7/14.
BFP #5 7/27/14. EDD 4/9/15... m/c @ 5w4d.
IVF #1 Oct 2014 - antagonist protocol: 9R, 7M, 5F. 3dt of 3 Grade 2 embies. BFN.
IVF #2 Jan 2015 cancelled due to dominant follicle. Converted to IUI #1. BFFN
IVF #2.1 March 2015 cancelled due to dominant follicle.
BFP #6 (SUPRISE!) 3/19/15. EDD 11/30/15... CP at 4w2d.
IUI #2: Clomid + Follistim = 3 follies. BFN.
IVF #2.2 May 2015 - horrible response to micro lupron flare protocol: 3R, 3M, 3F. 3dt of 2 Grade 3 embies. BFFN.
BFP #7 (beyond surprised again!) 4/26/16. EDD 1/5/17. beautiful betas!!!! and then near-fatal hemorrhagic corpus luteum. turns out baby was ectopic after all; another lap 5/6 (@24dpo).
the universe can fuck off.
"You are
overly paranoid and delusional that every one is out to get you."
-lastsliverofhope
I didn't ask for your opinion about nursing with clomid. I am asking people about taking clomid and not ovulating within the 5-10 day range. So if you can't answer that questions, move on.
Again, I used the term REAL to describe things like food for instance...I only eat real food...which to me means organic, unprocessed, natural. I used the term here in the same way-the real method, the natural way, the way without assistance. I am sorry some people are a little overly sensitive about the way I presented it, but it meant no harm. We are all in the same boat here and attacking someone looking for answers because YOU took something the wrong way is what I see going on here. My doctor is on board with me nursing through clomid and I did tons of research on the topic as well to get comfortable with it. I don't need your opinions on this.
I think you're a little confused about the tone of our board here on 2IF. You have to GIVE support to GET support. This was your first post here and it isn't going well. I think you should move on somewhere else. This board is full of some of the most supportive women I have in my life and I don't like where you are going with this.
IVF #1, Stimmed for 12 days, ER 8/22/14, 9 retrieved, 7M, 7F!! Freeze all due to fluid in uterus.
FET end of October 2014 cancelled due to fluid in uterus due to possible c-scar defect
Surgery scheduled 12/12/14 to fix possible isthmocele
3/26/15 transferred one 8 cell grade 4 embryo and one 6 cell grade 3 embryo = slow rising betas for 2+ weeks = ectopic MTX shot 4/29/15
Repeat c-scar surgery June 2015
2nd and last IVF cycle August 2015, stimmed for 12 days, 2 egg retrieved, both mature and both fertilized. Transferred both 8-cell embryos on Day 3, beta 9/5/15 = BFFN
I was posting on these boards long before some of you!!!! I came back after a break, because I am pursuing a 2nd child and do fall in the category here of secondary infertility. Obviously some of you did not read my signature and are quick to jump to conclusions. IT seems to be a different tone than the last time I was an active poster because we all made light of our situation instead of getting all butt hurt. I'm out...I have my answer and wish you all the best.
BFP #4 2/18/14. EDD 10/30/14... Ruptured ectopic with L tube removed & D&C 3/7/14.
BFP #5 7/27/14. EDD 4/9/15... m/c @ 5w4d.
IVF #1 Oct 2014 - antagonist protocol: 9R, 7M, 5F. 3dt of 3 Grade 2 embies. BFN.
IVF #2 Jan 2015 cancelled due to dominant follicle. Converted to IUI #1. BFFN
IVF #2.1 March 2015 cancelled due to dominant follicle.
BFP #6 (SUPRISE!) 3/19/15. EDD 11/30/15... CP at 4w2d.
IUI #2: Clomid + Follistim = 3 follies. BFN.
IVF #2.2 May 2015 - horrible response to micro lupron flare protocol: 3R, 3M, 3F. 3dt of 2 Grade 3 embies. BFFN.
BFP #7 (beyond surprised again!) 4/26/16. EDD 1/5/17. beautiful betas!!!! and then near-fatal hemorrhagic corpus luteum. turns out baby was ectopic after all; another lap 5/6 (@24dpo).
the universe can fuck off.
"You are
overly paranoid and delusional that every one is out to get you."
-lastsliverofhope
When I was one year out from having my dd, I could make light. After 5 years of ttc #2, I find it a bit harder to make light. If I already had a frozen embryo, I would not hesitate to use it. I guess I just don't get wasting time on clomid cycles.
Wishing you the best also, but maybe this isn't the right board for you at this time.
DD conceived after 3 years of ttc.
MFI - DH had varicocele repair and took Clomid to get DD b. 02/2010
TTC #2 since 6/2010 10/2012 DH diagnosed with Epilepsy A few failed IUIs summer 2012 and 2013. DH taking clomid and waiting to see if he needs another vericocele repair. Hoping for a 2015 baby or babies. Wishing, hoping, waiting.
Re: Frustrated Clomid is not working!
I am surprised your dr is allowing you to BF and do fertility meds at the same time. Your hormones can be wonky even with limited BFing. Perhaps if you are willing to wean 100% you'd get a more consistent response to the clomid?
Rainbow Surprise Baby due 05/26/2017
Also by calling intercourse conception "the real way" implies IVF is wrong or pretend and is offensive. Despite the fact you used IVF to conceive your first.
Also, aren't you a little bit worried about the effects of clomid that is passed through your breastmilk? There are no studies to say it is safe for your baby.
Lastly it is a bit insulting to come onto a board where a great many of us have conceived or are ttc through IVF, yourself included, and say you want to conceive the "real way". Maybe this was just a bad choice in words, but none the less it was insulting to most of us.
TTC #2 since 6/2010
10/2012 DH diagnosed with Epilepsy
A few failed IUIs summer 2012 and 2013.
DH taking clomid and waiting to see if he needs another vericocele repair.
Hoping for a 2015 baby or babies.
Wishing, hoping, waiting.
Rainbow Surprise Baby due 05/26/2017
Kid #1 - 09/03/12
Hysteroscopy #10 - scar tissue grew back reblocking my right tube
#11 or IVF with scarring still inside?
1 lone embryo from September 2016 retreival, dx with Trisomy 16, starting fresh
Spontaneous pregnancy #1
DD1 July 31, 2011
Trying for #2 since Oct 11
Spontaneous pregnancy #2= Ectopic #2= lost left tube
Spontaneous pregnancy #3= DD2 January 29, 2016
Spontaneous pregnancy #4= Ectopic #3
Spontaneous pregnancy #5= Baby #3 is a BOY!!!
Are you getting ultrasounds at midcycle or just after you get a positive lh? You should be requesting a check to see if your follicles are getting too large prior to ovulation.
If you offer info on a public board, be prepared to get feedback about everything. Not just the question you wanted answered. In our experience, breastfeeding can change your hormones making it difficult to predict response to fertility treatment. Since your question was about response to fertility treatment, the breastfeeding is relevant and applicable to your question.
You came on here asking for opinions, and my opinion is to hold off on the clomid until you are ready to be done nursing. The BFing could be causing issues, and like I said there have been almost no studies on the effects of clomid passed on through BFing.
TTC #2 since 6/2010
10/2012 DH diagnosed with Epilepsy
A few failed IUIs summer 2012 and 2013.
DH taking clomid and waiting to see if he needs another vericocele repair.
Hoping for a 2015 baby or babies.
Wishing, hoping, waiting.
Rainbow Surprise Baby due 05/26/2017
BFP #7 (beyond surprised again!) 4/26/16. EDD 1/5/17. beautiful betas!!!! and then near-fatal hemorrhagic corpus luteum. turns out baby was ectopic after all; another lap 5/6 (@24dpo).
the universe can fuck off.
"You are overly paranoid and delusional that every one is out to get you." -lastsliverofhope
TTC #3 since June 2013
BFP #1 7/21/2013--EDD 3/30/14--D&C 9/24/13
BFP #2 1/28/14--MC 2/7/14
IUI #1 5mg Femara + trigger = BFN
IUI #2 5mg Femara + trigger = BFN
IUI #3 5mg Femara + trigger = BFN
Rainbow Surprise Baby due 05/26/2017
BFP #7 (beyond surprised again!) 4/26/16. EDD 1/5/17. beautiful betas!!!! and then near-fatal hemorrhagic corpus luteum. turns out baby was ectopic after all; another lap 5/6 (@24dpo).
the universe can fuck off.
"You are overly paranoid and delusional that every one is out to get you." -lastsliverofhope
Wishing you the best also, but maybe this isn't the right board for you at this time.
TTC #2 since 6/2010
10/2012 DH diagnosed with Epilepsy
A few failed IUIs summer 2012 and 2013.
DH taking clomid and waiting to see if he needs another vericocele repair.
Hoping for a 2015 baby or babies.
Wishing, hoping, waiting.
Spontaneous pregnancy #1
DD1 July 31, 2011
Trying for #2 since Oct 11
Spontaneous pregnancy #2= Ectopic #2= lost left tube
Spontaneous pregnancy #3= DD2 January 29, 2016
Spontaneous pregnancy #4= Ectopic #3
Spontaneous pregnancy #5= Baby #3 is a BOY!!!