CPT: Will you vaccinate?

mrsjenni

Even if it's on a delayed or standard schedule, will you vaccinate your child(ren).

ccip82

I chose of course. This is one of my exceptions to the "To each their own" rule when it comes to parenting choices. I do not want your unvaccinated child around my child. End of story.

ETA: I am not naïve enough to think that I can prevent every single unvaccinated person around my children, however if I am aware of a child who is unvaccinated lets just say they will not be having play dates if I can help it.

SunflowersBride

I will just leave this here:

https://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2013/08/anti_vaxxers_why_parents_who_don_t_vaccinate_their_kids_should_be_sued_or.html

PreDempsey

If any one isn't vaxing I think it's important you come forward now so we can get this over with.

Sam3683

I'm sorry but this is rediculous to me!! Vaccinate your Fing children!!!!!!!

peanutmuse

Not only am I a pro-vaxxer, I am also a hard core anti-anti-vaxxer.

1017Shannon

peanutmuse said:

Not only am I a pro-vaxer, I am also a hard core anti-anti-vaxer.

that quote would be great on a button to wear! Lol

MiaMyPuggle

Absolutely! I'm not pushing my beliefs on anyone. I spread them out by 3 weeks with DS, so I guess that's an alternate schedule, but did it during the time they are suggested. I just wanted him to deal with one or two at a time and I was nervous about how they all would make him feel if they would have an adverse reaction.
The worse thing was a hard bump on his thigh from a vax. No other bad reactions...no fevers, lethargy, nausea. All was well. Will do that again.

jldubb0626

We vaccinate. The only thing we don't do is the flu shot. DS will get the nose spray when he turns 2.

karah4816

I am VERY pro-vaccination because I am very pro- being conscientious of your fellow human beings. I wont bring un-vaccinated children around the vulnerable members of our society and I wont allow un-vaccinated people to be around my babies before they are old enough to be vaccinated themselves.

susieandmarty

Vaccinate and if you dont stay the hell away from my kids.

sugarland726

You bet your ass I am vaccinating this baby!

PrincessSillyPutty

I totally get where you ladies are coming from but just want to throw in there that we will be using a delayed schedule and will not necessarily be doing every vaccine i.e. no hep b for an infant and no chicken pox vaccine. I think it is important to do your research and make a decision that is best for your family. It isn't necessary to do exactly what the mainstream has told you but it also isn't necessary to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" when it comes to vaccines. I hope that when everyone makes this decision it is based on quality information. 

Just thought I would throw in a different perspective. 

SunflowersBride

PrincessSillyPutty said:

I totally get where you ladies are coming from but just want to throw in there that we will be using a delayed schedule and will not necessarily be doing every vaccine i.e. no hep b for an infant and no chicken pox vaccine. I think it is important to do your research and make a decision that is best for your family. It isn't necessary to do exactly what the mainstream has told you but it also isn't necessary to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" when it comes to vaccines. I hope that when everyone makes this decision it is based on quality information. 

Just thought I would throw in a different perspective. 

As someone who got chicken pox at age 12 after my mom had shingles, I would seriously urge anyone to reconsider not getting this vaccine.  It is not fun to have chicken pox at age 12, and I'm sure even worse the older you get.

Also, just to up the controversy level, I would also STRONGLY urge everyone to get their children (boys and girls!) the HPV vaccine.  I went through a super shitty experience with a severely abnormal pap, and doctors thought I may actually have a super aggressive form of cervical cancer that would have potentially necessitated a hysterectomy (at age 29 before I had any kids).  I luckily did not have cervical cancer and my cervix looks good, but after that experience, you'd better believe that I will be getting my children to HPV vaccine, and I hope that people will knock it off with the ridiculous stigma and recognize that a vaccine for cancer is huge and has nothing to do with sexual promiscuity.

laurasue0513

SunflowersBride said:

I will just leave this here:

https://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2013/08/anti_vaxxers_why_parents_who_don_t_vaccinate_their_kids_should_be_sued_or.html

Awesome article. =D>

ccip82

PrincessSillyPutty said:

I totally get where you ladies are coming from but just want to throw in there that we will be using a delayed schedule and will not necessarily be doing every vaccine i.e. no hep b for an infant and no chicken pox vaccine. I think it is important to do your research and make a decision that is best for your family. It isn't necessary to do exactly what the mainstream has told you but it also isn't necessary to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" when it comes to vaccines. I hope that when everyone makes this decision it is based on quality information. 

Just thought I would throw in a different perspective. 

This statement bothers me because IMHO I read this and the vibe I get is "people who are pro vaccinations do not do research". You can beat your ass I researched this debate. Just because I am very pro vaccinations does not mean I am any less informed on this topic.

sugarland726

PrincessSillyPutty said:

I totally get where you ladies are coming from but just want to throw in there that we will be using a delayed schedule and will not necessarily be doing every vaccine i.e. no hep b for an infant and no chicken pox vaccine. I think it is important to do your research and make a decision that is best for your family. It isn't necessary to do exactly what the mainstream has told you but it also isn't necessary to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" when it comes to vaccines. I hope that when everyone makes this decision it is based on quality information. 

Just thought I would throw in a different perspective. 

I agree with @ccip82 on this. The way you wrote this is rubbing my the wrong way, like in the circumcision post. Maybe you weren't writing this to instigate an argument, but I can feel one brewing.

nbbride06

I will fully vaccinate, but I did separate the vaccinations for DD after she had a bad reaction to her first set of vaccines.  So I just took her into the pediatrician more often so she wouldn't be "off schedule."  She's fully vaccinated at age 2.

moosebaby2011

SunflowersBride said:

PrincessSillyPutty said:

I totally get where you ladies are coming from but just want to throw in there that we will be using a delayed schedule and will not necessarily be doing every vaccine i.e. no hep b for an infant and no chicken pox vaccine. I think it is important to do your research and make a decision that is best for your family. It isn't necessary to do exactly what the mainstream has told you but it also isn't necessary to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" when it comes to vaccines. I hope that when everyone makes this decision it is based on quality information. 

Just thought I would throw in a different perspective. 

As someone who got chicken pox at age 12 after my mom had shingles, I would seriously urge anyone to reconsider not getting this vaccine.  It is not fun to have chicken pox at age 12, and I'm sure even worse the older you get.

Also, just to up the controversy level, I would also STRONGLY urge everyone to get their children (boys and girls!) the HPV vaccine.  I went through a super shitty experience with a severely abnormal pap, and doctors thought I may actually have a super aggressive form of cervical cancer that would have potentially necessitated a hysterectomy (at age 29 before I had any kids).  I luckily did not have cervical cancer and my cervix looks good, but after that experience, you'd better believe that I will be getting my children to HPV vaccine, and I hope that people will knock it off with the ridiculous stigma and recognize that a vaccine for cancer is huge and has nothing to do with sexual promiscuity.

I love that you emphasized that the HPV vaccine is important for both boys AND girls. It's not just about cervical cancer, but also many types of cancer of the anus, rectum, head and neck that affect both sexes. Just ask Michael Douglas :-)

peanutmuse

ccip82 said:

PrincessSillyPutty said:

I totally get where you ladies are coming from but just want to throw in there that we will be using a delayed schedule and will not necessarily be doing every vaccine i.e. no hep b for an infant and no chicken pox vaccine. I think it is important to do your research and make a decision that is best for your family. It isn't necessary to do exactly what the mainstream has told you but it also isn't necessary to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" when it comes to vaccines. I hope that when everyone makes this decision it is based on quality information. 

Just thought I would throw in a different perspective. 

This statement bothers me because IMHO I read this and the vibe I get is "people who are pro vaccinations do not do research". You can beat your ass I researched this debate. Just because I am very pro vaccinations does not mean I am any less informed on this topic.

And in fact, what I have found is that the anti-vaxxers are the ones who have an extremely difficult time finding legitimate, scientific research on their side.

PreDempsey

I will fully vaccinate, but I did separate the vaccinations for DD after she had a bad reaction to her first set of vaccines.  So I just took her into the pediatrician more often so she wouldn't be "off schedule."  She's fully vaccinated at age 2.

I've considered doing a slightly delayed (but still on time) schedule. Just in case of a reaction.

AnnikaD20

I don't care if you EBF or FF, attachment parent, circumcise, go back to work, hate baby wearing, make your own organic baby food, or feed your kid cheetos, or any of those stupid things moms sometimes argue about. You have to figure out what's right for your baby, your health, your family situation, your finances, your beliefs, and I won't judge you.

But if you don't vax I will judge you SO HARD.

(I will also judge you a little bit if you pick a really stupid name for your kid. But I will bite my tongue and we can still be friends.)

PrincessSillyPutty

ccip82 said:

PrincessSillyPutty said:

I totally get where you ladies are coming from but just want to throw in there that we will be using a delayed schedule and will not necessarily be doing every vaccine i.e. no hep b for an infant and no chicken pox vaccine. I think it is important to do your research and make a decision that is best for your family. It isn't necessary to do exactly what the mainstream has told you but it also isn't necessary to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" when it comes to vaccines. I hope that when everyone makes this decision it is based on quality information. 

Just thought I would throw in a different perspective. 

This statement bothers me because IMHO I read this and the vibe I get is "people who are pro vaccinations do not do research". You can beat your ass I researched this debate. Just because I am very pro vaccinations does not mean I am any less informed on this topic.

I'm sorry that it came across that way. That is in no way what I meant. It just seems that when this conversation has occurred on TB lately there are people on both sides that seem to not have accurate information and that I hope once the decision is made it is made from quality information and not from rhetoric. I believe this happens on both sides. I was certainly not singling anyone out. 

It also appears to me that in a lot of cases I only see the pro and anti vax people talking and just wanted to talk about another option. 

I apologize if I offended you. 

sugarland726

SunflowersBride said:

I will just leave this here:

https://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2013/08/anti_vaxxers_why_parents_who_don_t_vaccinate_their_kids_should_be_sued_or.html

That was a really interesting read. Thank you for sharing.

alanexo

SunflowersBride said:

As someone who got chicken pox at age 12 after my mom had shingles, I would seriously urge anyone to reconsider not getting this vaccine.  It is not fun to have chicken pox at age 12, and I'm sure even worse the older you get.

Also, just to up the controversy level, I would also STRONGLY urge everyone to get their children (boys and girls!) the HPV vaccine.  I went through a super shitty experience with a severely abnormal pap, and doctors thought I may actually have a super aggressive form of cervical cancer that would have potentially necessitated a hysterectomy (at age 29 before I had any kids).  I luckily did not have cervical cancer and my cervix looks good, but after that experience, you'd better believe that I will be getting my children to HPV vaccine, and I hope that people will knock it off with the ridiculous stigma and recognize that a vaccine for cancer is huge and has nothing to do with sexual promiscuity.

This right here. Definitely. Going through the same thing from ages 16-21 I'm so for this vaccine for both boys and girls. I will definitely have my child vaccinated for everything, just still deciding between flu vaccine and flu mist.

peanutmuse

SunflowersBride said:

I will just leave this here:

https://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2013/08/anti_vaxxers_why_parents_who_don_t_vaccinate_their_kids_should_be_sued_or.html

Not that it's the main point of the article, but..

As if I needed another reason to hate The View.

salsamommy

I have a friend that posted this the other day, he's a doctor teaching at Berkley.

LabPupLuv

SunflowersBride said:

PrincessSillyPutty said:

I totally get where you ladies are coming from but just want to throw in there that we will be using a delayed schedule and will not necessarily be doing every vaccine i.e. no hep b for an infant and no chicken pox vaccine. I think it is important to do your research and make a decision that is best for your family. It isn't necessary to do exactly what the mainstream has told you but it also isn't necessary to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" when it comes to vaccines. I hope that when everyone makes this decision it is based on quality information. 

Just thought I would throw in a different perspective. 

As someone who got chicken pox at age 12 after my mom had shingles, I would seriously urge anyone to reconsider not getting this vaccine.  It is not fun to have chicken pox at age 12, and I'm sure even worse the older you get.

Also, just to up the controversy level, I would also STRONGLY urge everyone to get their children (boys and girls!) the HPV vaccine.  I went through a super shitty experience with a severely abnormal pap, and doctors thought I may actually have a super aggressive form of cervical cancer that would have potentially necessitated a hysterectomy (at age 29 before I had any kids).  I luckily did not have cervical cancer and my cervix looks good, but after that experience, you'd better believe that I will be getting my children to HPV vaccine, and I hope that people will knock it off with the ridiculous stigma and recognize that a vaccine for cancer is huge and has nothing to do with sexual promiscuity.

My dad, my cousin and I all suffered from shingles as a result of getting chicken pox as children. None of us are elderly. A healthy SF Giants baseball player was out of play for weeks dealing with shingles. It's horrible. You should also know if you are having a boy, that if he is catches chicken pox at a later age and not in childhood, he can be infertile.

mrsjenni

I knew I loved this board. #J14FTW

And honestly?  I'd rather my kid have autism than die of a preventable disease because I decided not to vaccinate. 

Firefly9

peanutmuse said:

ccip82 said:

PrincessSillyPutty said:

I totally get where you ladies are coming from but just want to throw in there that we will be using a delayed schedule and will not necessarily be doing every vaccine i.e. no hep b for an infant and no chicken pox vaccine. I think it is important to do your research and make a decision that is best for your family. It isn't necessary to do exactly what the mainstream has told you but it also isn't necessary to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" when it comes to vaccines. I hope that when everyone makes this decision it is based on quality information. 

Just thought I would throw in a different perspective. 

This statement bothers me because IMHO I read this and the vibe I get is "people who are pro vaccinations do not do research". You can beat your ass I researched this debate. Just because I am very pro vaccinations does not mean I am any less informed on this topic.

And in fact, what I have found is that the anti-vaxxers are the ones who have an extremely difficult time finding legitimate, scientific research on their side.

And all "evidence" I've seen from anti-vaxxers comes from incredibly one-sided, biased websites.

With everything else, I'm in the "it's your kid, do what you want" boat, but with this one, if you don't vaccinate (unless you are in the tiny, tiny percentage of people who have children with some sort of super severe reaction), you are pretty damn stupid, closed minded, short sighted, misinformed, and gullible.

ETA: added a few adjectives

Deblondie1

I've never had a doubt about vaccinating. We DO delay them, just in case there is some unforeseen reaction, but we vaccinate. 

sugarland726

Amylou333 said:

I watched a show the other day where a soon-to-be-mom said "I don't believe in vaccinations, it's just a scam from the drug companies. I mean, have you even heard of anyone getting polio in this country?!" *face palm* I don't even know how I would keep my cool in response. Obviously she's an idiot and doesn't understand that there's no polio....BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE VACCINATED! Stop vaccinations, and the diseases will spread again. It's not rocket science.

If the anchor of that program said anything other than, "Are you a fucking moron?!" they get props from me for keeping their cool.

KimberlyTX

DD is vaccinated, this one will be vaccinated, and I judge the hell out of people who don't vaccinate their kids without a legitimate reason (i.e. immuno-suppressed). I hate flu shots, but I get them while pregnant to give baby some protection (yay for two winter babies!). I made my DH, parents, and ILs get the whooping cough vaccination before DD was born. Bottom line: I am not going to expose my kids to dangerous diseases, and I absolutely judge people who let others be at risk because they buy into Jenny McCarthy and other crazies like her.

TeacherVicky

mrsjenni said:

And honestly?  I'd rather my kid have autism than die of a preventable disease because I decided not to vaccinate. 

This is a non-issue. There is no scientifically-proven link between the two.

LatteLady5

SunflowersBride said:

PrincessSillyPutty said:

I totally get where you ladies are coming from but just want to throw in there that we will be using a delayed schedule and will not necessarily be doing every vaccine i.e. no hep b for an infant and no chicken pox vaccine. I think it is important to do your research and make a decision that is best for your family. It isn't necessary to do exactly what the mainstream has told you but it also isn't necessary to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" when it comes to vaccines. I hope that when everyone makes this decision it is based on quality information. 

Just thought I would throw in a different perspective. 

As someone who got chicken pox at age 12 after my mom had shingles, I would seriously urge anyone to reconsider not getting this vaccine.  It is not fun to have chicken pox at age 12, and I'm sure even worse the older you get.

Yes, this. I had them at 6 and it was MISERABLE. I still remember it very well and have the scars on my forehead to show for it. The thought of parents hosting "pox parties" makes me ill. I get it isn't "necessary" but putting my children through unnecessary pain, itching, possible scaring etc. is not okay with me and IMO irresponsible.

sugarland726

LatteLady5 said:

SunflowersBride said:

PrincessSillyPutty said:

I totally get where you ladies are coming from but just want to throw in there that we will be using a delayed schedule and will not necessarily be doing every vaccine i.e. no hep b for an infant and no chicken pox vaccine. I think it is important to do your research and make a decision that is best for your family. It isn't necessary to do exactly what the mainstream has told you but it also isn't necessary to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" when it comes to vaccines. I hope that when everyone makes this decision it is based on quality information. 

Just thought I would throw in a different perspective. 

As someone who got chicken pox at age 12 after my mom had shingles, I would seriously urge anyone to reconsider not getting this vaccine.  It is not fun to have chicken pox at age 12, and I'm sure even worse the older you get.

Yes, this. I had them at 6 and it was MISERABLE. I still remember it very well and have the scars on my forehead to show for it. The thought of parents hosting "pox parties" makes me ill. I get it isn't "necessary" but putting my children through unnecessary pain, itching, possible scaring etc. is not okay with me.

We were kids before there was a vaccine. Every time a kid on the block would come down with chicken pox we'd be sent over to play at their house. Every time my mother's efforts failed. Then one day on vacation, my brother took off his shirt to go swimming and he was covered in pox. He sat between my sister and me on the way home as I was already 9 and my sister was 12. I understand the mentality, pre-vaccine, on why a pox party would be a good option for families. I don't understand it now.

peanutmuse

TeacherVicky said:


This is a non-issue. There is no scientifically-proven link between the two.

I don't think mrsjenni was arguing that there's a link between the two. Just that it's a stupid argument even IF it was true.

LatteLady5

sugarland726 said:

LatteLady5 said:

SunflowersBride said:

PrincessSillyPutty said:

I totally get where you ladies are coming from but just want to throw in there that we will be using a delayed schedule and will not necessarily be doing every vaccine i.e. no hep b for an infant and no chicken pox vaccine. I think it is important to do your research and make a decision that is best for your family. It isn't necessary to do exactly what the mainstream has told you but it also isn't necessary to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" when it comes to vaccines. I hope that when everyone makes this decision it is based on quality information. 

Just thought I would throw in a different perspective. 

As someone who got chicken pox at age 12 after my mom had shingles, I would seriously urge anyone to reconsider not getting this vaccine.  It is not fun to have chicken pox at age 12, and I'm sure even worse the older you get.

Yes, this. I had them at 6 and it was MISERABLE. I still remember it very well and have the scars on my forehead to show for it. The thought of parents hosting "pox parties" makes me ill. I get it isn't "necessary" but putting my children through unnecessary pain, itching, possible scaring etc. is not okay with me.

We were kids before there was a vaccine. Every time a kid on the block would come down with chicken pox we'd be sent over to play at their house. Every time my mother's efforts failed. Then one day on vacation, my brother took off his shirt to go swimming and he was covered in pox. He sat between my sister and me on the way home as I was already 9 and my sister was 12. I understand the mentality, pre-vaccine, on why a pox party would be a good option for families. I don't understand it now.

I agree with this. I think it was introduced in 1995(?) around the time I got the virus. My brothers and sister and I all had it at the same time. My cousins were vaccinated and never got it. I can understand pre-vaccine when parents didn't want their kids to get it when they were older but I don't get it now. Chicken pox sucks and deliberately putting a child through that when it's avoidable is just cruel.

rowanthefrog

Yes. Unequivocably...yes.

A

ksonne

Thanks for the interesting read. <-- 100% pro vaxer

TNgoldengirl

I can't quote everyone and I'm mobile bumping, but I recommend the chicken pox vaccination as someone who has experienced a very bad case, and went on to get shingles twice as a child. No fun! That vac wasn't out yet for me. Not sure what's so bad about the vaccination but pox suck!

Second, it is so annoying when uneducated people in my community are like omg that shot gave my kid autism, he was never the same after it, don't vaxx your kids!! Come on now.. Even if there was a link, it's not instantaneous

Third, one of my best friends has never been vaccinated and has never been sick. Her parents are very granola..home birth, vegetarian, natural remedies, etc.. She was fine, but everyone wouldn't be.

Lastly, as PP said, I don't care if u get your kid circed, if you FF or BF, etc. I do however kind of side-eye people who feed babies Cheetos, powdered donuts, soda pop, etc on a regular basis..sorry if that is you. No excuse for that, and though I appreciate everyone who researches vaccinations pros and cons, it seems to be a good idea to be safe and go with the norm on this, IMO. Google is a valuable source but also gives plenty of onesided or misleading info.