CPT: Will you vaccinate?

nbbride06

Xan84 said:

LatteLady5 said:

SunflowersBride said:

PrincessSillyPutty said:

I totally get where you ladies are coming from but just want to throw in there that we will be using a delayed schedule and will not necessarily be doing every vaccine i.e. no hep b for an infant and no chicken pox vaccine. I think it is important to do your research and make a decision that is best for your family. It isn't necessary to do exactly what the mainstream has told you but it also isn't necessary to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" when it comes to vaccines. I hope that when everyone makes this decision it is based on quality information. 

Just thought I would throw in a different perspective. 

As someone who got chicken pox at age 12 after my mom had shingles, I would seriously urge anyone to reconsider not getting this vaccine.  It is not fun to have chicken pox at age 12, and I'm sure even worse the older you get.

Yes, this. I had them at 6 and it was MISERABLE. I still remember it very well and have the scars on my forehead to show for it. The thought of parents hosting "pox parties" makes me ill. I get it isn't "necessary" but putting my children through unnecessary pain, itching, possible scaring etc. is not okay with me and IMO irresponsible.



The chicken pox vaccine was one I had to think about for a bit.  I also got the disease at age 6.  I don't remember it being overly traumatic, and I luckily did not end up with scars.  I still kinda question whether the chicken pox vaccine confers life-long immunity like the disease - the vaccine hasn't been around long enough to prove that.  However, I'm going to have to go ahead and give my kids the vaccine despite my doubts, as the chances of them getting a case naturally will be slim to none as so many kids are now vaccinated against it - and obviously I don't want them to get it when they're older.  I guess we'll just have to see how long the vaccine lasts, and re-vaccinate if necessary.

I can see why parents felt the need to host "pox parties" in the old days before the vaccine was available.  They were just trying to make sure their kids got the disease early, when it's far less dangerous, than as adults when it is quite serious.  But today, now
that a vaccine is available, pox parties are unnecessary and I definitely give them the side eye.


I believe they give a booster now.

sugarland726

Xan84 said:

I can see why parents felt the need to host "pox parties" in the old days before the vaccine was available.  They were just trying to make sure their kids got the disease early, when it's far less dangerous, than as adults when it is quite serious.  But today, now that a vaccine is available, pox parties are unnecessary and I definitely give them the side eye.

I just have to snort at "in the old days." This was only the late 80s/early 90s for our chicken pox parties.

TeacherVicky

peanutmuse said:

TeacherVicky said:


This is a non-issue. There is no scientifically-proven link between the two.

I don't think mrsjenni was arguing that there's a link between the two. Just that it's a stupid argument even IF it was true.

:-bd Gotcha.

katie-lynn3313

mrsjenni said:

I knew I loved this board. #J14FTW

And honestly?  I'd rather my kid have autism than die of a preventable disease because I decided not to vaccinate. 

This exactly.

SunflowersBride

KaitiMac said:

I have a group of friends that are charasmatic Catholics that post on Facebook all the time about not vaccinating because some of the vaccines contain aborted fetuses. I'm 100% going to vaccinate my children, but I just find it interesting that some of the anti-vaxx stuff is religiously based and not drug company conspiracy or "it's gonna give him/her autism" based. Anyone else run into this argument?

These people are idiots and I have never met a Catholic person who actually believed this (and I am Catholic and have many Catholic friends).

mrsjenni

peanutmuse said:

TeacherVicky said:


This is a non-issue. There is no scientifically-proven link between the two.

I don't think mrsjenni was arguing that there's a link between the two. Just that it's a stupid argument even IF it was true.

Exactly.  Autism is one of the main reasons why people decide not to vaccinate their children, regardless of the of scientific evidence to suggest otherwise.  My point was, even if it did cause autism (which we all know it doesn't), that is still a better option to me than not vaccinating and having one of my children die of a preventable disease as a result.

ccip82

I am kinda curious to find out who the two people who voted nope were...

mrsjenni

ccip82 said:

I am kinda curious to find out who the two people who voted nope were...

Or even the still deciding peeps.  Hopefully we've at least converted them.

moosebaby2011

ccip82 said:

I am kinda curious to find out who the two people who voted nope were...

Me too. I know there are a couple semi-regular posters who don't vax, but they aren't shy about stating their views on the issue so I suspect it wasn't them who voted in this poll.

ang.ela23

I don't see how this isn't 100% for "of course".....

jhjocelyn

I hesitated when I voted because I know I want to vax but, I also want to delay the schedule a bit. I know the pediatric office around here does not hesitate to give 5+ shots at the 2 month apt (I won't be taking my kiddo there). I haven't completed my research on how I want to go about the delay-ing though, so I almost voted "still deciding" but went for "of course" instead.

shortstuff15

We delay and seperate, and don't do hep B (not offered until grade 5 here), hpv, flu or chicken pox (until either age 6 or 12 we haven't decided yet). By two our kids are caught up aside from chicken pox. And I will likely ask for bloodwork prior to getting the pox done because if the have had it without symptoms (a possibility a few of my friends experienced) then they won't need the shot. No immunity by whatever age we choose means they get the shot as getting pox later in life is much more risky.

My own bloodwork this pregnancy showed that my rubella immunity is no longer so after pregnancy I need to update my MMR and will likely do DTaP too as my last booster was 15 years ago.

peanutmuse

ccip82 said:

I am kinda curious to find out who the two people who voted nope were...

Yeah, me too.

JaneW2

About chicken pox vaccine:  Might want to get it for your older kids before the new one comes, especially if they are in any sort of school. 

My father's cousin is apparently one of those rare people for whom chicken pox immunity doesn't stick.  Right before her daughter was due, her 3-year-old son caught it in nursery school.  To her horror, the mother came down with chicken pox the day after giving birth, and a few days later the baby caught it.

It was dreadful, three weeks in the hospital, but the baby pulled through.  She's shorter than the rest of the family and has a learning disability, but there's no way to know whether chicken pox caused that.

This was about 1990, right before that vaccine entered the normal schedule.

ach298

JaneW2 said:

About chicken pox vaccine:  Might want to get it for your older kids before the new one comes, especially if they are in any sort of school. 

My father's cousin is apparently one of those rare people for whom chicken pox immunity doesn't stick.  Right before her daughter was due, her 3-year-old son caught it in nursery school.  To her horror, the mother came down with chicken pox the day after giving birth, and a few days later the baby caught it.

It was dreadful, three weeks in the hospital, but the baby pulled through.  She's shorter than the rest of the family and has a learning disability, but there's no way to know whether chicken pox caused that.

This was about 1990, right before that vaccine entered the normal schedule.

This happened to DH's family, except his mom had just never had it (I've never had it either but I got the vaccine when I was 12). DH came home from school with it and gave it to both his younger brothers and his mom. His youngest brother was only an infant and ended up with a severe case and in the hospital for weeks. This was back before the vaccine was commonly given, but to us, it is now a no-brainer for DS (and all future kids) to get the chicken pox. I bothers me so much the mentality of "Oh, I'll do all the other vaccines, except the chicken pox". I just don't get it. It makes even less sense to me than the anti-vax arguers, honestly, since they already are pro-vax. *This should not imply that I understand the anti-vax argument*

SunflowersBride

@dhviel: just curious as to what your reasons are for not getting your kids the Hep B, HPV, flu shot or Chicken Pox vaccines?

quidditchcapn1120

Of course. There literally are no real reasons not to. And for those saying "I do all but...", there are major complications from chicken pox, the fly, etc. they may be rare but they are real and can cause death, intellectual disabilities, infertility and others. On top of that, herd immunity relies on the hope that as many healthy and able people as possible get immunized so that those who are immunocompromised and unable to be immunized can be protected. If your healthy child gets a strain of flu that could have been prevented, they will probably be fine. But their classmate fighting an immunosuppression for whatever reason very likely will not be fine after being exposed to your child. Think of others people!

aprilbridezilla19

We will vax. My husband is a public school teacher. Non vaxed children pose a threat to my family as he can get it and bring it home to us.

With DS I was on the fence about the chicken pox vaccine, then my friend who's in her early 30s got shingles and said it was the worst possible thing ever and she wished this on no one. That made my decision for me.

mommygrams0730

Have and always will vax...never did a delayed schedule. Being a teacher, hubby's a teacher and pretty much all family members are so for us (as everyone else) it's important to keep up to date.

fredtheredhead2

We will definitely be vaccinating. No debate, no questions.

thelittlepear

Yup. As a teacher, I've seen too many kids get strange things from not being vaccinated. 2 years ago we had 8 non-vaccinated kids in 1 class, get mumps - our provincial average is less than 4 cases a year. After seeing the kids so sick, knowing the potential long-term effects, and seeing the risk they posed to everyone else via exposure, it's a non-issue for us - we just will; end of story.

Winnieella

We will vaccinate, but on a delayed schedule. I don't see why someone won't. We will wait until the baby is 5 before doing the chicken pox one and Hep B just because of when they are offered here.

mrsjenni

@JGjocelyn - The question said "Even if it's on a delayed or standard schedule, will you vaccinate your child(ren)?" so you're still covered by saying "of course"

Armyratt

We vaccinate for sure. I delay some as I don't like giving a whole bunch at one time. I know a couple people that I go to church with that don't do the chicken pox because they are pro life and how the vaccine was created goes against their beliefs.

shortstuff15

SunflowersBride said:

@dhviel: just curious as to what your reasons are for not getting your kids the Hep B, HPV, flu shot or Chicken Pox vaccines?

Hep B I would get them if we travelled a lot (my brother lives in Africa so if we go there to visit for sure) but for the time being I feel its one we can let them decide on later. I have never been vacinated for Hep B and neither has my husband as we were very low risk (no pre marital sex and no drug use or body art) so unless something changes, that is one they can decide themselves. Same for HPV, plus I don't like the lack of testing and unknown long term effects for that one. If our kids decide they want it, then ok. But it won't be in grade 5 but rather late teens/early adulthood. We will get them the pox vaccine if they don't contract it naturally, but like I said, just at either 6 or 12. We are aware of the risks to all the diseases, but its one we are willing to take. The flu we don't do because my husband has reacted badly to it in the past.

ashleywiz

I will 100% be vaccinating-- however hepB will be one I delay for this reason: of the students I see, we do titers for their vaccines and we are finding a shocking number of students who were given hepB as an infant and are NOT immune, but those who had it at say, age 6- are immune. All age ranges of students and hometowns. Perhaps more research on the immunity length for the series needs to be completed- at least in my opinion. Otherwise I'm completely on board with vacs and as a kid who's mom lost all shot records--- getting 12 at once at the age of 13 sucked, but the only thing that happened was a sore arm. I've also never had a flu shot, and haven't ever had the flu -- but I'm not against it, I just personally don't get it (baby will def be getting it) ***sorry mobile post

petitmonstree

fredtheredhead2 said:

We will definitely be vaccinating. No debate, no questions.

This!

twobluelines

For me, I have had all of my shots including multiple boosters for MMR, HepB 7 times and others and my body retains no immunity. The joy of my marriage would be my "conscientious objectors" in-laws. As a result we will be forced to keep our baby away from their children until we are able to vaccinate this baby. To me the added irony isv that I have a PhD in Microbiology and Immunology and have been told that I "simply don't understand the research"...... ummmmm yeah that's because what you show me isn't research it is opinions. So glad this month has so many smart moms pro-vaccination!

knottie3c0525a8a3c64eaa

I don't even know why this would be an argument. Unless of course you want to leave like back in the day when children died for something that is completely preventable today. You must think about why vaccines were developed to begin with. Having grown up in Brazil and knowing that not everyone has access to the vaccines and seen the pain of some underprivileged moms for losing their children for lack of vaccination this just seems like a silly argument to me

yogi1012

sugarland726 said:

Amylou333 said:

I watched a show the other day where a soon-to-be-mom said "I don't believe in vaccinations, it's just a scam from the drug companies. I mean, have you even heard of anyone getting polio in this country?!" *face palm* I don't even know how I would keep my cool in response. Obviously she's an idiot and doesn't understand that there's no polio....BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE VACCINATED! Stop vaccinations, and the diseases will spread again. It's not rocket science.

If the anchor of that program said anything other than, "Are you a fucking moron?!" they get props from me for keeping their cool.

UGH. DH's uncle had a very serious case of polio as a child, spent 2 years in the hospital and has been disabled ever since. There is no way I wouldn't vaccinate. We also plan on continuing our world travels. DH have been vaccinated with it all, because we have been to remote areas of South America. It is so much safer. Not to mention that if you do not vaccinate, you also have to home school and your children can not attend college.

forevergraceful

I will without a doubt be vaccinating my kids. I vaccinate my dogs too. The end. 

mommabird77

My son is on the autism spectrum.  He is an amazingly intelligent, beautiful and funny child.  As a parent of a child on the spectrum, it burns me deep down into my soul to have people tell me with false, biased evidence that vaccines are what causes autism (I am talking about the general public, no one here as done that....yet).  The biggest vaccine linked to autism study has been proven to be false.  In fact, all the parents of children on the spectrum that I know IRL do not think a vaccine caused their child's autism.  My son was vaccinated, and we will vaccinate this child as well.  Vaccines did not cause my child's autism.  He never had a reaction to a vaccine, he never "changed" after a vaccine, he has always been the way he is, an amazing little boy! 

People who have terrible reactions to vaccines for whatever reason(allergic reaction to ingredients, extremely high fever etc.) should not get vaccinated, and I could see this leading to autism, but the subset is so incredibly small.  This is not the cause of most autism, and I hate the media for twisting it around.  Such misinformation is out there about autism in general, it makes me furious.  There also have been studies saying that obesity in pregnancy, induction of labor (the latest gem) and living near a highway causes autism.  Honestly, it is pathetic how easy it is to make figures prove a hypothesis, but it does not mean causation.