My doctor isn’t recommending it because I am 39 and he doesn’t feel enough embryos will develop, but I want to reduce the risk of disability. Any thoughts?
I did and it was worth it. I was 38 when I had my egg retrievals (ER) and I did PGS because of my advanced age (in terms of reproduction) and I wanted to bank normal embryos for future pregnancy. My first two retrievals weren’t successful and 5 blasts I had, they were all aneuploid (abnormal). The third cycle produced 7 blasts, 4 of which were euploid (normal) blasts. I transferred two of the blasts (one at a time) and I now have two children. If I hadn’t tested the embryos, I would have wasted a year transferring the 5 blasts from my second ER and failing (no implantation, cp, or worse, miscarriage). At my age, I couldn’t afford to waste anymore time.
With my first child, nuchal translucency test came back above the cutoff, which raised the risk of having a chromosomal disorder like Trisomy 21. If I hadn’t had PGS I would have been quite worried.
Me: 41 DH: 46 Unexplained infertility/AMA, polycystic ovaries, insulin resistance FET#1(July 2017): eSET of first of 4 PGS-normal embryos, DS born 3/30/2018 FET#2(Oct/Nov 2019): eSET
I’m also 39, and we did testing, and I am so glad we did. We had a couple losses in 2020, and just like @cashewchicken said, we felt like we didn’t want to waste the time and money to transfer embryos that were probably not going to be viable/have problems in the end. Plus, we had already spent the time and money on IVF, why stop at testing? Like, let’s just do everything we can to make this as successful as possible since we’d already come this far.
Anyway, we got 5 embryos and all of them thankfully tested fine, which was a massive relief. We also knew the sex of each one, so we chose a girl since we already have two boys. When it came time for the NT and NIPT, I was still a bit nervous, but nowhere near as nervous as I’d be if I wasn’t already reasonably sure the baby was likely to be ok.
@KTB81 I would definitely discuss with your doctor and advocate for it. I don't regret doing PGT-A (I was 30 at the time) because it eliminated a possible reason for transfer failure since we'd only be transferring normal embryos.
Your doctor may be thinking about the relative cost per embryo for the testing. When ours was through CooperGenomics, they had a rate for up to 8 embryos and then $X additional for every embryo beyond that. So the cost could seem very significant if you only have 2 embryos (for example).
Not sure, but some doctors may like to manipulate embryos as little as possible with AMA patients since they may not be "hardy" if you know what I mean. Does your doc want to do a fresh transfer? That seems more common for those AMA since some embryos don't make it out of the freeze/thaw process. I happen to lose an embryo in the thawing process so we used up 2 in 1 transfer cycle (which was unsuccessful).
*TW* History
TTC #1 since 7.2017 Dx: low morph (1%), ANA positive, low decidualization score, high TSH and testosterone, histone antibodies
IUI #1-3| all BFN IVF #1 | 6.11.19 | 24R, 17M, 15F, 6B, PGT-A tested - 5 normal, 3 girls & 2 boys FET #1 | 9.10.19 | BFN "I know you, but we've never met. I'm with you, but I don't know your name" RPL, Receptiva, & ERA testing | all normal/negative, recommended going on gluten and dairy free diet for next FET FET #2 | 3.31.20 | Opted to cancelled due to pandemic, continued diet and tried naturally over the summer 2nd Opinion with another RE | 8.20.20 | Not immune to measles (received 1 dose); SA results similar to 2 years ago; decided to move forward with FET #2 redo at start of next cycle Surprise natural BFP! | 9.22.20 | MC 10.23.20 at 8 weeks TTCAL naturally | starting 11.22.20 Initial consultation with Reproductive Immunologist | 9.14.21 Decidualization score biopsy | 10.1.21 | abnormal - low score of 1; endometrial scratch recommended and progesterone supplementation Saline sono | 10.15.21 | normal Bloodwork | 10.21.21 | high TSH, high testosterone, positive for anti-nuclear antibodies and histone antibodies, high protein S, multiple genetic mutations BFP! | 11.3.21 | EDD 7.14.22 | biopsy provided same effect as endometrial scratch; added supplemental progesterone and estrogen, prednisone, levothyroxine, and MTX Support to maintain pregnancy DS born 7.19.22 after induction
TTC #2 begins 6.2023 Consultation with RI | 6.6.23 Saline sono, endometritis biopsy, skin & eye check | all normal Labs | high TSH, Factor XIII mutation, high %CD56 Follow up | 8.8.23 | prescribed metformin, prednisone, plaquenil, and levothyroxine Repeat labs after 3 weeks on meds Follow up | 11.9.23 | Green light!, increase in prednisone, added lovenox Repeat labs in 8 weeks Follow up | 1.16.24 | Green light continues TTC ended due to filing divorce **New relationship starting May 2024** Surprise BFP!! | 9.7.25 | EDD 5.11.26
Thank you so much ladies. I really appreciate your advice. I asked for a meeting with my doctor tomorrow. My doctor didn’t want to do testing because of AMA, but I was told today (day 1) that we have 5 embryos. My doctor was not expecting this many. Can we still do testing on them?
@KTB81 What do you mean by day 1? Do you have 5 fertilized eggs? Or have the embryos made it to day 3 or 5? My doctor waited until they made it to day 5 before taking samples to do testing. FWIW, my doctor had zero concerns about doing PGS because of AMA for me.
Well, doc said we can’t do the pgt test as it needed to be part of my treatment plan and the lab is full Kind of upsetting. I’m just trying to focus on the positive.
Our doctor suggested against the testing. He said the test requires taking a cell around the embryo and there is a risk that it may damage the embryo or prevent it from holding. He said he would do it if we insist.
Maybe it's better that your RE does not leave it to you. one less decision! Good luck!
Re: Did you get pgt/ pgs -testing why or why not?
Unexplained infertility/AMA, polycystic ovaries, insulin resistance
FET#1(July 2017): eSET of first of 4 PGS-normal embryos, DS born 3/30/2018
FET#2(Oct/Nov 2019): eSET
Your doctor may be thinking about the relative cost per embryo for the testing. When ours was through CooperGenomics, they had a rate for up to 8 embryos and then $X additional for every embryo beyond that. So the cost could seem very significant if you only have 2 embryos (for example).
Not sure, but some doctors may like to manipulate embryos as little as possible with AMA patients since they may not be "hardy" if you know what I mean. Does your doc want to do a fresh transfer? That seems more common for those AMA since some embryos don't make it out of the freeze/thaw process. I happen to lose an embryo in the thawing process so we used up 2 in 1 transfer cycle (which was unsuccessful).
Dx: low morph (1%), ANA positive, low decidualization score, high TSH and testosterone, histone antibodies
IUI #1-3 | all BFN
IVF #1 | 6.11.19 | 24R, 17M, 15F, 6B, PGT-A tested - 5 normal, 3 girls & 2 boys
FET #1 | 9.10.19 | BFN "I know you, but we've never met. I'm with you, but I don't know your name"
RPL, Receptiva, & ERA testing | all normal/negative, recommended going on gluten and dairy free diet for next FET
FET #2 | 3.31.20 | Opted to cancelled due to pandemic, continued diet and tried naturally over the summer
2nd Opinion with another RE | 8.20.20 | Not immune to measles (received 1 dose); SA results similar to 2 years ago; decided to move forward with FET #2 redo at start of next cycle
Surprise natural BFP! | 9.22.20 | MC 10.23.20 at 8 weeks
TTCAL naturally | starting 11.22.20
Initial consultation with Reproductive Immunologist | 9.14.21
Decidualization score biopsy | 10.1.21 | abnormal - low score of 1; endometrial scratch recommended and progesterone supplementation
Saline sono | 10.15.21 | normal
Bloodwork | 10.21.21 | high TSH, high testosterone, positive for anti-nuclear antibodies and histone antibodies, high protein S, multiple genetic mutations
BFP! | 11.3.21 | EDD 7.14.22
DS born 7.19.22 after induction
TTC #2 begins 6.2023
Consultation with RI | 6.6.23
Saline sono, endometritis biopsy, skin & eye check | all normal
Labs | high TSH, Factor XIII mutation, high %CD56
Follow up | 8.8.23 | prescribed metformin, prednisone, plaquenil, and levothyroxine
Repeat labs after 3 weeks on meds
Follow up | 11.9.23 | Green light!, increase in prednisone, added lovenox
Repeat labs in 8 weeks
Follow up | 1.16.24 | Green light continues
TTC ended due to filing divorce
**New relationship starting May 2024**
Surprise BFP!! | 9.7.25 | EDD 5.11.26
Maybe it's better that your RE does not leave it to you. one less decision! Good luck!