April 2019 Moms

Birth & Parenting Classes

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Re: Birth & Parenting Classes

  • I'm looking into infant CPR classes as well as a class about newborns and breastfeeding at my hospital but I wasn't sure what kind of birthing class to do since I already know I'm going to have a csection. Any suggestions mommies?

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  • I took Lamaze classes hosted by my hospital with my first two. It was really helpful to understand the birthing process and know what to expect, when to go to the hospital, what the different phases of labor are, and what pain relief options are available. But I will tell you that there is no way in hell that I would have actually been able to use the breathing techniques past early labor.

    The breastfeeding class I took was helpful in understanding different holds and methods. As well as effective ways to hand express.

    This time around I want to take an infant CPR class again (last one was when I was a teenager).
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  • We're planning on going to a class that goes over the birthing process and labour in general (sounds similar to the one @eli_belle is going to).

    Theres also a breast feeding one offered through the same place... STM's that have breast fed, would you recommend this?

    I wasn't planning on doing any kind of infant cpr course because of the experience where I work but my husband said he'd be interested in learning more so we might go for one just for reassurance :)
  • We took Bradley classes with DD and loved it. My husband would have been absolutely clueless on what I was going through or how to help me without those classes. We likely won’t take classes this time around just because we remember all the exercises and stages of labor so I think we will be fine.
  • Any suggestions on free or inexpensive classes available online ladies?

    The hospital offers a few, not sure if they're specific methods or just the general "this is what happens," class.  They're also around 50-100 bucks and between my schedule and DH's, I'm not sure we can even make an in-person one work.

    I'm interested in the difference/pros vs. cons between Bradley method and Hypnobirthing.  I'm trying to go med-free this time.
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  • FTM, we are taking classes with our doula and at the hospital where I hope to deliver. First we are touring the birth center which is part of the hospital, then infant CPR class, and a basic childcare class. Meanwhile our doula is coming to our home to teach a childbirth class, since we are going to start off hoping for a "natural" birth (whatever that means), and once at the hospital and once at our home she'll help with breastfeeding.
    Me: 29 DW: 44
  • With our first, we took the basic hospital classes, and even as a FTM I found them to be kind of pointless, though the hospital tour was nice. We are skipping the class this time, but might jump in for a tour because we are at a different hospital this time. 

    I am doing the hypnobirthing home study guide & mostly just working on mindfulness exercises this time around.
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  • @wildcosmiclove I wonder if some of the nurses at your hospital might to a pre-op class? It might be nice to know what to expect during the recovery period. It might be something you’d have to ask for but a lot of places to pre-op classes for other types of surgery, why not c-sections?
  • Just signed up for a hospital tour tomorrow afternoon for my boyfriend and I. Also, I got us signed up for a Newborn Care class as well as a Breastfeeding class for January. I'm so lucky my boyfriend is just as excited as I am about these things. 

    Since I'm a FTM, are there any questions you awesome STM's can think of that I should ask during the tour tomorrow?

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  • I took about 2 weeks of a Bradley class last pregnancy and hated it. I thought it was the stupidest waste of time (and for the record, I still went Unmedicated). I did do the hospital birthing class, which was just maybe 3 sessions. I felt like that was more useful and concise - definitely less time wasted. This time I’ll probably do a hospital tour and that’s about it. I don’t have a reliable babysitter for my 4 year old anyway. 
  • We did a 4 class series with baby no. 1 at our hospital. I don’t think there was a charge. But our insurance provider is Kaiser and the hospital and Ed stuff and drs. Are all connected. 

    I think we will opt for a refresher. There have been a few changes like that pain killer gas. That I want to learn about. Also it would be good to think about labor strategies again. I have a doula too and will go over more specifics with her. I feel like the more prepared for each circumstance we are the better we will be at making choices in the moment with confidence. 
  • @phoenix92885 never been on one, but March has some good suggestions if no one else replies in time. https://forums.thebump.com/discussion/12737049/hospital-tour-thread
  • @lyse01 Thank you, that March thread is super helpful!! We have our tour next week and I would never have even thought of any of those questions.
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  • @lyse01 thank you! That helps a lot! I'm so excited today to go see where everything is going to go down! I've been to this hospital before when my niece was born last year but never saw it from the prospective of being a mom myself so this should be fun. 

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  • We are starting an 8 week class offered by the hospital next month and I am super excited! It’s once a week and covers breastfeeding, labor positions, after baby is here etc. We’ll also get to go into one of the rooms and look at the equipment and get familiar. 

    I’m impressed - it’s only $50 for the entire course and they said we can even keep going afterwards until the birth for free if we want (class ends in March). As a FTM it is super comforting to have all the support
  • We talked about it and decided against taking a class this time around. We took a hospital led one with DD and to be honest it didn't really help at all. Maybe DH because he wasn't familiar like I was with the stages of labor but I learned nothing. This time around I'm studying hypnobirthing and/or hypnobabies at home along with doing breathing exercises, etc. No need for a hospital tour since we're staying at home this time around so the biggest thing we are focusing on is figuring out where and how to set up the birth space.

  • We didn’t do any last time and I don’t know that we will do any this time. I might try to do the infant cpr but other then that maybe a hospital tour since it’s a completely different hospital/insurance system. If they had a sibling prep class near us I would definitely take DD, but they don’t offer it at any of the close offices/hospitals. 


     For the record my doc gave me a big ass stack of paperwork towards the end with DD that went over a lot of the questions in that thread. Maybe ask your doc if they have anything that states hospital policies/procedures? Since last time my doc was a specialist directly related to/stationed within the hospital others might not have anything like that but wouldn’t hurt to ask. 
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  • I'm not taking any classes this time around but I highly recommend the newborn care class and the birthing class. I would also like to mention that just because you THINK you won't have a c-section, you never know what will happen so I recommend paying attention to that part in class. 

    I think I have to do the hospital tour again (eye roll), but that's fine and it takes an hour.
  • Before DD we did a CPR class, a basic birthing class, and then the hospital tour. I would for sure recommend the CPR class. The birthing class was pretty good, it was hospital provided and free. But none of my plans worked out so I didn't get to use most the the methods I learned. 

    I will go on another hospital tour but I moved since DD so its a different hospital. 

    @mrstmoose TOTALLY agree about the C-section. This was NEVER part of my plan and totally freaked me out when I ended up needing one!
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    Baby #1 DD  Born 8/25/2016
    BFP: 8/11/18 Due: 4/26/18

     

  • @mrstmoose I'm actually excited for our hospital tour this time because it's a combo hospital tour "So you're about to be a big sibling" class for DS. He has to bring a baby doll or stuffed animal and they'll help teach him to hold the babies and all that cute shit. Now I just need to not forget to go., 
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  • This will be baby #3 but for our first we took a general childcare/labor class and breastfeeding class.  I thought they were both worth it.  We also signed up for a hospital tour but on the day of I ended up in the ER because my OB said my BP was too high and he was afraid I would have a stroke.  So we never got to do it.  

    I might consider a CPR class since it’s been awhile but I’ll just meet with thr LC if I have any questions/issues with breastfeeding this time around.
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  • Never took a childbirth class because DD was born before we’d planned to take the class. And, uh, now the childbirth class is booked for January and February, and I’m not convinced that it’s a good idea to wait til March for an April baby. So...go schedule these suckers, ladies!
  • @lyse01 yesss! Spots are filling up in the classes in my area for January and February. I'm hoping I can get a CPR class scheduled before March. A lot of moms were complaining at the hospital tour I went to on Sunday that spots were all taken. Feels a little early to plan I'm sure, but it's better to get in early than not at all. 

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  • @angelob88 where are you finding hypnobirthing stuff online? I think I did some of that intuitively last time and want to explore more if I can’t take a real class.
  • FWIW, I didn't take a class the first time and don't regret it.  Scheduling it was causing a lot of stress (8 weeks and only offered at times that didn't work easily with out full-time jobs), and I knew that sitting there was just going to make me anxious.  Also, I knew I wanted a medicated hospital birth and that I'd be happier if I just put things in the hands of a doctor I trusted.  He talked me through the process beforehand, I read a couple of descriptions online and in books, and it was just fine.  This is just to say that if you have reasons for not wanting to take or being able to take a class, it can be okay.

    I do regret not having had more info on breastfeeding, though.  We had to watch a video at the hospital and it all seemed pretty straightforward, but I totally did not get ANY info about how supply works, how pumping (which I had to do) differs from regular feeding, about cluster feeding, etc.  But I'm with @catherineclaire78 that something after birth would have helped me more than something before, when it would have just gotten lost in the sea of info!
  • @TheSouffleGirl I didn’t take a class the first time either and it likely wouldn’t have helped. The scheduling seems near impossible especially with anyone whose job goes after 5 or who has anything happening on weekends. Honestly, given the class sizes and frequency, I wonder whether everyone who wants to even has a chance to go.

    I found an online class with the flagship hospital in our hospital network, so I’m booking that. DH can take it in the middle of the night, the materials are available for 90 days so it’s self-paced, and hey, my insurance will reimburse the cost! I’ll also schedule a tour separately of the local hospital.

    as for breastfeeding, I found the Womanly Art of Breastfeeding a wonderful resource, and much more reliable than fb groups of moms sharing anecdotes about fenugreek, oats, and power pumping. I also placed a few emergency calls to my dad’s cousin the lactation consultant, which got me through engorgement and mastitis.
  • For me, breastfeeding was such a hands-on experience, I don't think going through classes beforehand would have helped.  It seemed so cut and dry before hand (boob in mouth, burp, other boob in mouth) but after, a combo of lactation consultations, advice from friends/family, and BF support groups at the local hosptial were best. FB groups did help me while I exclusively pumped and got him to latch again.
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  • Thought I'd revive this thread having gone to my first prenatal class this week. Has anyone else started going to prenatal classes? What are your thoughts so far?

    Personally, I was really disappointed. I'm a bit of a neurotic person, and my career is in research, so leading up to classes, I spent SO MUCH time looking at the scientific literature in regards to prenatal care, delivery outcomes, and best practices for infant care. Obviously, I'm not a doctor, and OBS/GYNE isn't even my field of research so I'm by no means qualified to have any kind of expertise on the topic, but I could not get over how bad this class was. It was totally not evidence based, filled with inflammatory fear tactics, and presenting a lot of pseudo science as "proven scientific facts" (direct quote). What's worse, is this was offered by the local HOSPTIAL. I'm kind of scared shitless now, if this is the level on which the hospital operates in terms of adhering to the evidence, what the fuck is it going to be like delivering there? I'm considering reaching out to some of the patient advocacy offices. Even if its just the prenatal classes that are whack (not the care all around), I'm in a position that I know it's crazy, I can access peer reviewed publications on the topics, most women cant... To boot, women's health is very much deprioritized in our area, so there aren't other prenatal class options around. Nor is there another hospital that delivers babies. Anyway, I'll step of my freakout soapbox now...

    Have any of you found good online resources / webinar type prenatal classes? Anyone have some positive experiences with prenatal classes?
  • @kate_e_nb I am skipping prenatal classes, but I am a part of a Facebook group that specializes in evidence-based pregnancy and birth, and they may be able to help you find resources (not sure if you're on FB or not). Let me know if you want me to PM you the name of the group. 
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  • @kate_e_nb I'm also skipping birth classes this time around but we went through the prenatal class and newborn care class at our hospital and both were really good. I'm doing a hospital tour this time around, but only because it's required. Which is silly because of the RCS. But whatever.
  • @MRDCle I’m interested.
    @kate_e_nb I’m taking an online class through the state’s best teaching hospital, and while I’m only halfway through, my opinion so far is that it has good production value but is slim on info that one can base decisions on. I kinda get the feeling that most childbirth education is designed to reduce the anxiety of the mother/parents-to-be by normalizing some of the language they’ll hear and discussing comfort measures (which makes the parents feel like they’re doing something), whereas you and I are more interested in participating in the actual medical care. I’ll see if they discuss some of the negative effects of pitocin and epidurals and report back. 
  • @MRDCle I'm not on FB, but if you come across anything interesting in your group, I'm all ears!
    @lyse01 Let me know how the class goes! I keep hoping to find info that just provides all the relevant risk / benefit info of all the different ways about doing things, and then turns it to the parents to decide... but everyone seems to have an agenda when it comes to prenatal info...
  • I wish I could be more helpful with birth class for a cesarean birth, the book Birthing from within does cover this type of birth well (covers all types of births) in my opinion, but I don’t know a specific class. I think your hospital/doctor are probably a good place to start and just having you and your partner know what to expect before/during/after as well as what’s normal and what’s a red flag.  I would ask about skin to skin bonding ASAP after birth (before or during when you are being closed), and having your husband or partner stay with the baby the whole time and perhaps someone who can stay with you (parent, friend, family or doula). 

    I would definitely do a breastfeeding class (STM here), that way if you have feeding difficulties you can recognize them early even if you can’t fix the obstacle on your own you will know there’s an issue and get help sooner!!! Not all hospitals use IBCLC’s so be sure to find one locally and if they offer a BF class take their’s: it’s a great chance to meet them and ask questions and if you need help you will have a great resource that is already established. And since you are having a scheduled cesarean birth you can ask questions about how to comfortably BF with your stitches and what positions might be easier to try first etc. Also since you know the date your baby will arrive you can choose a class date close to your delivery date so you don’t forget the details.
  • mesweetteamesweettea member
    edited February 2019
    @kate_e_nb I am also a professional researcher with access to peer-reviewed journals and OB/GYN textbooks etc. I can relate to having conducted my own neurotic research...

    I do like https://evidencebasedbirth.com/ as a resource. While I think it’s probable that the researchers (I think it’s mostly the same two or three people responsible for most of the content) have a bias towards low-intervention care, I do think that they work hard to review available evidence and present what they find, including descriptions of the types of studies that inform their summaries. (Much better than Expecting Better, a book that’s also commonly mentioned that’s evidence based, in my opinion.) Unfortunately it’s pretty limited to just birth & immediately post-birth infant care decisions.



    As to your fears regarding the class that you took being run through the hospital: I’d still check with the team that actually provides care before you reconsider birth locations. It’s possible that there is just some disconnect between whoever runs the patient education program and what’s actually happening... and while that’s somewhat troubling, it’s more important to know what policies and guidelines are actually being followed by L&D staff/nurses/doctors etc. 
  • @mesweettea +1 for Evidence Based Birth. I too really like how they evaluate the quality of the studies - reading the articles feels like reading some really good lit review. I don’t have access to journal articles anymore (outside whatever is on NIH’s site) so it’s nice to have someone else looking at the sample sizes and data sets etc for me and critiquing them.  I don’t notice the same bias so much as I think the evidence shows that lower intervention is usually the prudent course without indications for extra care, but I am also the person that leans towards sleep and hot tea as primary treatments for a cold (vs any pills) until I notice a secondary sinus infection or something that needs more drastic intervention. So it may just be confirmation bias on my part. Anyway, I also like EBB’s detail on the many different elements of birth - everything from epidurals and episiotomies to water labor/birth and eye ointment. Reading it gives me a checklist of items where I can figure out my preferences...or do more research to figure out if my state even allows me to make the choice.
  • Thanks @mesweettea! What an awesome resources! I have an appointment with my doc (who is awesome) coming up, so I'll talk to her about it. I'm hoping that its someone in a Gov office (with no research / clinical experience) who put together the class curriculum, and that the L&D nurses just deliver it that way because its easier, and not that they actually practice that way. It's just a little frustrating because you'd hope that the hospital would be all about evidence based education. I'm hoping my doc is able to give me a little more insight about how care practices actually go... because there aren't other options for where to deliver. There's already so many things during L&D to be inherently stressed about, I shouldn't also have to worry about the competency of the staff caring for me...

    @lyse01 That's awesome that it does some of the critical evaluation for you! I'm happy to speak to the methodology of a given paper, but certainly lack the clinical knowledge to be able to comment on some of the nuances of the field! 
  • We are doing our refresher on Thursday. I like it because while I’m very up on lingo and what’s happening it gets my hubs on the same page and he is a better
    support. Our first we did the 4 classes and I really appreciated the info. It’s connected to my hospital (Kaiser) and the ladies who run the classes are often doulas and midwives who have delivered in the hospital. 

    They really explained the risks of each drug, test, monitors. Complications etc. 

    there was a session baby care, breastfeeding, coping in labor, excersizes to help strengthen for labor and after. 

    One reason we are going back is to learn about nitrous and any other changes since 3 yrs ago. Also it’s good to be refreshed. 
  • kate_e_nb I was so disappointed with the LaMaze class we took this weekend. It was a busy weekend for my husband (he left for Germany Sunday night for a week and lots to do to get ready to go) but we cleared the time 9:30am-2:30pm Sat & Sun to attend - plus driving time. The teacher - who works at the hospital (so I have similar red flags to you) - and has been teaching LaMaze since the 80's was just so bad. She talked on and on about her personal life and glossed over anything I thought was relevant. As someone who has done a lot of reading and research, I felt I could almost teach the class better even though I'm a FTM and rather clueless about the mechanics of birth. It was such a waste of time we didn't go back on Sunday. I felt really let down that the hospital endorses these classes for busy parents-to-be... I told the teacher on Sunday we weren't attending because I didn't feel well but maybe I should give some honest feedback. If the teacher stayed on track and was dynamic, she could have taken 10 hours of "content" and taught it in one 5-hour class which would have been totally acceptable. :(

    Me & DH ~ 32
    Married 7/6/13

    EDD 2/5/21

    DD 4/19
  • I enjoyed my newborn care class and my breastfeeding class. I went into the newborn care class not expecting to learn much. I may be a first time mom but ive had a lot of newborns in my care even a couple of premies. I learned a couple of things though and really enjoyed watching my boyfriend dive into the class with me. My favorite was the breastfeeding class. I wasnt breastfed because my mom had a rough reduction in her teens and most of my family had to formula feed for one reason or the other so i was pretty clueless when it came to BF. I learned tons though. The class was well worth the time. I needed breast feeding broken down and explained step by step. I feel like the instructor did a great job. One of our favorite parts was that she even gave the partners a list of things to do to help since breastfeeding can kinda leave them out of the loop sometimes. I know BF doesnt come naturally to everyone but im definitely feeling less intimidated by it now that i know what a proper latch is and how to know if im producing enough for my baby girl. 

    Still waiting to attend an infant CPR class! Anyone ever go through red cross for cpr training?

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