Thank you for starting this! I've had diagnosed anxiety for... well, forever, and intermittent depression. I was in therapy for a long time on account of my parental relationships, and a terrible ex boyfriend *TW*
who was emotionally abusive for two years after I broke up with him, and did other things I just won't get into right now - edited to add that this was back in college (my first two years, I broke up with him right at the beginning of my freshman year) and I feel insane that I'm 33 and this still affects me so badly
*end TW*. I was diagnosed with PPD/PPA after DD was born, and was in treatment with medication, but I stopped them when I found out I was pregnant. I had a few crisis therapy sessions, but to get in with a therapist I'd see regularly, it's a three-month wait through Kaiser in my area. I'd already told my story twice to intake therapists (the first was awful and just told me to think positive, the second was great), so I just didn't follow up with the regular therapist. There have been some bad anxiety days, and I know I can talk to DH, but I also worry I'm going to scare him off. There have also been a lot of weepy days I've just been hiding. It is really nice to have a place to share the feelings, I've just been keeping them to myself.
DD born PPROM preemie at 36 weeks on 10/1/17 after over a year TI, then 3 failed IUIs, and finally a successful IVF FET.
Due with #2 5/2/19 after HIO once in my FW, because apparently that's how life works now. Team Blue!
Love that we have this! Thank you @expandcontract for starting this thread. Diagnosed Bipolar II and am so grateful for my wonderful therapist who I've been seeing for 7 years. I've been curious to see how many other expecting moms are handling medication management during preganancy and also talk about PPD. This being my first pregnancy, I'm scared about what I can expect in the months after birth.
I have told my story a few times, but I will tell it here again.
I have a history of anxiety, which was controlled with Zoloft. I never had a lot of depression symptoms though, but if I am 100% honest, I did deal with some OCD behaviors prior to going on meds. Like a lot of women, I weaned off the meds about a year before TTC and thought I was going great. I had 2 MMCs before getting pregnant with DD. At 6 weeks with DD, all hell broke loose. I was having weird symptoms related to circulation issues and migraines and I decided to google my symptoms. After googling, I decided that I had this awful autoimmune disease and that I was going to die. Unfortunately, this wasn't just a brief bout- this lasted all pregnancy. I spent hours and hours online reading about the disease, participating in message boards, became friends with a lot of people who had the disease. I went Dr to Dr trying to find someone who would take me seriously. It didn't help that around this time I stopped sleeping. Like for 4 days straight. Ended in the ER 4 times in this period, started hallucinating, and called the Moms crisis line multiple times. Oh and Donald Trump was elected that week. It was seriously the worst week of my life.
After 4 weeks, I got a "rush" appt with a maternal child health psychiatrist who started me on Zoloft and let me stay on the Ambien that the 4th ER Dr finally prescribed me. I'd like to say that it worked in pregnancy, but I really don't think it ever did. My anxiety was reduced, but my OCD never went away and my depression was pretty consistent. If I wasn't reading about the awful diseases that I had, I was reading about ways to commit suicide. It was a really really awful time. DH was scared to leave me alone.
My depression was most manageable when I was at home and not working, so we decided that I should stop working at 35 weeks and I sat on my couch with my dog and didn't leave my couch except to go to Drs appts until the baby was born. I didn't watch TV. I didn't prepare for the baby. I just researched the disease I thought I had and prepared to die since I was positive I would die in childbirth. Thank god I work at a place that actually recognizes that pregnancy depression is a thing and that recognized I had it bad and encouraged me to take care of myself and my baby first. They gave me 18 weeks off paid so that I could stay home until DD was 13 weeks and I could not be more thankful for that.
By about 10 weeks PP, I was back to myself. It was a slow process, but I found myself making plans and actually wanting to leave my house. All of my normal emotions came back. I hadn't felt so good since before i went off my meds.
This time, I have remained steady. I do have days where getting off my couch sounds absolutely dreadful, but I attribute that to exhaustion more than anything. I do, greatly worry about PPD this time though. My psychiatrist is closely monitoring me and we have a plan. I have a therapist that I like a lot this time (last time I could tell that she was not set up to deal with someone dealing with such acute issues). Overall, I feel better just knowing that I got through severe mental health issues in pregnancy and I can get through it all again.
My story is pretty long so I'll try to sum it up. When I was 18 I joined the military, I went through a few traumatic events. I was harassed and treated like shit regularly following these events. I drank a lot, was promiscuous and began self harming to cope. No one bothered with looking into PTSD as the culprit but they labeled me as borderline (though I've been told by many professionals I don't strike them as borderline at all).
In 2010 I was hospitalized for self harm for the first time. I tried to quit drinking but it didn't work. In 2011 I was hospitalized again for suicidal ideation. I had a plan. I was going to do it. But a friend asked me if I was, and I started crying so he reported me to mental health and I was hospitalized. During that time, I was medically retired (this is why you may hear me talk about receiving military pension or retirement, or being retired) from the military after 4 years. I learned in the hospital the second time that I was very sensitive to others' emotions and found it very easy to calm my peers during panic attacks. It's when I decided I wanted to be a nurse.
I met my husband 1 week after I got out of the military. We were happy, but in December 2011 (we were already engaged at this point), I attempted suicide. He promised he'd never leave my side as long as he never had to go through that again. We've both kept our promises. He watches me, pushes me, calms me. He's my rock.
I have since been diagnosed with bipolar II. I'm not on any medication or receiving any treatment at all. My first pregnancy I was on nothing. I managed (though admittedly not well) but the worst was after he was born. I am still not sure I want to be on anything this time due to the paranoia I feel surrounding it, but I do want to be on something after the baby is born for absolute certain.
You you all are amazingly brave and strong women. I am honored to TB stalk you all. ❤️😂
*TW Whole Post Basically* I was diagnosed with depression at age 17 after I swerved in front of a semi, hoping to be hit. I changed my mind at the last second and veered back into my lane. I spent the next day crying in my Guidance Counselors office, who helped me call 2-1-1 (a mental health helpline in my community) and then call my mom and tell her what I was struggling with. I quickly was put on meds and seeing a pediatric psychiatrist. She was absolutely horrible for me in every way possible and it never got better while I was seeing her.
In college, I attempted to hang myself from my lofted bed using a scarf. My roommate found me and helped me get the help I needed. I started seeing a family psychiatrist who specialized in substance abuse. I didn’t have abuse problems but he knew so much and it was far more helpful than the pediatric psych I was seeing. I was also visiting the psychiatrist on campus at my school. Between the two, I was able to make it through my first three years of college with few other incidents. I was even weaned off my meds medically after learning coping mechanisms to help.
In 2014, I was a Big Sister through Big Borther Big Sisters. My Little Sister was under the care of her grandmother in Minnesota. In August, my little sisters mom, step dad, and 6 younger brothers and sisters were murdered by her abusive father over 12 hours. It was hell for her, but it was hell for me too. I was diagnosed with PTSD shortly after the incident and had multiple panic attacks a week for months after the murders. I was placed back on an anti-anxiety med as well as a separate med to help with the panic attacks, since the anti-anxiety didn’t help with those entirely.
I am still on anxiety and depression medication as I cannot function every day without it. I do so much better with the meds, but pregnancy has definitely made it difficult.
Now, I’m watching this cycle with my niece. She is currently in the psych ward after her 6th suicide attempt. It is painful to watch and so hard as I know exactly how she feels but cannot provide the help that she needs.
There are some incredible stories in this thread. I don't really want to go into mine, right now. But I do want to remind us all that we are strong women! We have been through a lot and we may still have more to go through, but the biggest thing is that Im so proud of us all for recognizing our needs and helping OURSELVES. Therapy, specifically, is extremely hard to do. I hate the stigma that surrounds "seeing a therapist" because people see it as a weakness when, in fact, it's the complete opposite. It takes a lot of courage to be able to come to grips with possible faults within yourself. I know so many people who live in denial thinking that there is nothing wrong with them, but everything wrong with everyone else. So ladies, please always remember how strong you are!!
I grew up with all of the financial support any child could need and a loving dad but had a mentally and emotionally abusive mom growing up and have struggled with suicidal ideation many times. My parents kicked me out of the house when I graduated high school for dating a guy (now DH) and refusing to break up with him. They never gave DH a chance because they were hooked on my ex. DH did nothing to deserve their hatred. My mom told my entire extended family that DH murdered someone in his truck and that he was trying to sell it to get rid of the evidence... Makes no sense because he never hurt anyone and if a cop wanted to find the car they could even if it wasn't in his possession... But sure....
So none of my family would take me in because they thought I was being a little shit of a teenager and was dating a hoodlum. I'd try to win over their approval for the next 7 years. Every time I saw my mom, she'd tell me that I was a piece of shit for picking some rando instead of family and that when we got married, they wouldn't be there, i wouldn't have a father daughter dance and my dad wouldn't walk me down the aisle.
When we got engaged, I went to their house to tell them alone and my dad said he'd love to be a part of the wedding and would do whatever I would like. My mom said she'd buy my dress for me but didn't want to go shopping with anyone else but me... Umm no... I'm not having my dress memories with only the wicked witch of the West. So she said she wouldn't be a part of it.
A month before the wedding, my dad took me to dinner to talk about the wedding and read me a two page typed letter about how I was the biggest disappointment of a daughter they could have ever imagined and he couldn't be a part of our wedding. They booked a cruise for the week of our wedding so they couldn't be coerced by family to end up going.
Over the last 11 years, I've struggled with the fact that my parents live less than 5 miles from me and I haven't seen them since last April when my dad told me I was the biggest disappointment they could've imagined. I'm starting to realize my worth without them but it's been an extremely tough journey mentally. I've been seeing a therapist for a few months now.
@kbeers13 I'm so incredibly sorry you have had to go through that. I can't even imagine the pain involved. One thing I like to think about when I consider the things my mother did wrong, is we have a chance to do better. And you will. You will probably always struggle to understand how they could possibly do that, and that it has everything to do with them and nothing to do with you but you will love this baby even harder, and more fiercely than you can even imagine right now. You will do better, because you are better. I'm so sorry.
@eatinwatermelonseeds thank you ❤ DH and his fam have been more than loving and my extended family has come around over the years and now loves DH. My parents have also disowned my two older sisters and only speak with my brother so it's been easier to see that it's not me. I just struggle when things come up like whether to send them an invitation to the gender reveal. I've decided not to contact them at all about the pregnancy. My mom was invited to my bridal shower but didn't show and they weren't at the wedding so I'm not going to keep inviting them. Not gonna waste the saliva to lick an extra envelope.
I am having a terrible mental health week. I honestly can't think of a single day this week that I would categorize as good. And realistically nothing bad is happening. So much good is. But I just feel at my wit's end. I'm mad at my husband because I asked him last night to put lotion on our kid (which I do daily compared to his once a month if that) and he goes "can you just do it?" What the fuck, no! And then of course I've built up everything in my mind so he's pretty much the worst husband ever. I've assigned a friend to talk me off these ledges but she was also a little annoyed with him for that and now she's busy and not answering. I'm literally in tears because I feel like my brain is betraying me.
And I had pretty much landed on definitely getting on meds and then I read a review where the woman said her son has xyz problems and she blames herself for being on the meds. My son has all those problems and I wasn't on meds but I blame myself still. I can't imagine actually having a reason to blame myself. I still don't know what to do, I'm losing my fucking mind. Doctor's appointment is in a week ish. I'll be honest with her and see what she wants to do. I don't think I can do this much longer.
@eatinwatermelonseeds honestly, I think being off meds is more harmful in these situations. When we put ourselves in situations that aren’t healthy for our mindset, it can reek havoc on our whole system. Any “damage” that could be done from meds, in my mind, is far less than any “damage” that could be done from me not being on my meds.
@mrskoz428 I have been crying all day. I am going to call monday and try to move my appointment up or maybe make a separate one to get on meds. I really don't think I can do this without them. I'm just terrified by either situation.
I suffer from anxiety, depression and PTSD due to being molested and raped many times growing up. I also was in a domestic relationship which caused me to become suicidal. I suffered from addiction to pain meds as well. I am a firm believer in we need to take care of ourselves before being able to take care of the baby. If we are going crazy mentally, we will harm the baby now and in the long run. Doctors will tell you what medication and how much to take. I have a four year old daughter and she is healthy. I take Xanax. I was a little nervous at first to take medication while pregnant but honestly all they can say is that the baby may become dependent at birth if you take too much. Doctors aren't going to allow you to take an amount to cause dependency. You just take enough to stay sane.
@kbeers13 omg that sounds absolutely awful what you are going through! It also sounds like your mom has mental issues, herself. Im not so sure about your dad, maybe he just goes along with your mom. Parents are supposed to protect you and when they do the complete opposite it is absolutely traumatizing. I agree that you shouldn't waste anymore time or energy on them, which I know is easier said than done because naturally you will always crave their approval. But unless your mom gets help, nothing is going to change.
@eatinwatermelonseeds Girl, I'm seriously worried about you! Could you please please try to see a doctor as soon as possible? I would even suggest going to the ER. You being in this state is way more dangerous than you taking the meds. How can you take care of your kids if you're not even taking care of yourself? Please, this is really serious now.
@expandcontract I'm going to call Monday. I ended up being okay today. My friend talked me down from my worst episode today, had me get some water, wash my face and eat. My husband stayed home and let me get a pedicure and then we explored Costco (we haven't been out as a family in a while due to his schedule). Now I'm upstairs relaxing while he and the kid are downstairs. I'm much better.
I wrote that last night and apparently didn't post it. I'm sorry for that. I woke up today feeling a little better. I'm stressed about this house crap but I don't feel hopeless today. I'm going to read a book that @mrskoz428 mentioned in a different post and just relax.
Thanks to everybody for sharing their story and making me feel less alone in this journey! I've had a not so great weekend. Not emotionally prepared to go through my whole story, but a big stressor in my life is my mom. Shes been a narcissistic alcoholic for 10+ years. I finally stopped communication with her in May. She told me she would 'have her drinking under control' on my wedding day. I knew better than to believe her, but still had my hopes up that she would stick to her word. Needless to say, she got wasted and even solicited my brother-in-law for sex at my reception. Fun times. I told her I needed her to seek treatment for us to continue any sort of relationship. She declined. It was a blissful 3 months of not speaking with her and not dealing with her drama. When I found out I was pregnant, I thought maybe, just maybe, that a new baby would make her go to treatment. So I opened up communication again. She admitted she did at one time abuse alcohol, but that she doesn't anymore. So, I told her that my bottom line still stands: get treatment for your addiction or have no contact with me. She proceeded to tell me that I'm causing too much stress in her life and that I need to stop going to therapy because 'it has me cooped up in sadness'. Anyway, sorry this got so long. I just really had hope that I might have my mom with me through my first pregnancy. Fuck addiction.
@eatinwatermelonseeds I'm glad your weekend got better, but please still reach out to get some help and relieve. No one deserves to feel like shit.
@megstevens92 I'm so sorry you're dealing with that. Addiction is evil.
My mom isn't an addict but she is very entitled. When I was pregnant, she got a tax return in the beginning of my pregnancy and I urged her to buy a plane ticket then so she could see my son born. She said no, and bought a computer. I honestly think she figured if she just waited, there was no way I wouldnt pay for her. Fast forward, I kept telling her to buy a ticket, she insisted they were cheaper the closer you get 🙄 and then the month I was due she quit her job and said she couldn't come. I think it also had something to do with me saying she wouldn't be in the delivery room because we wanted it to be just us. She didn't meet him until he was 5 months old. But because he got very sick, she ended up coming out literally the day he was released from the hospital, he was withdrawing from morphine and ativan and she spent the whole trip complaining that he was so high and she wanted to go to Seattle and do xyz. It was just miserable. I hope I never treat my kid like that. She's always treated me as though I owe her for all she did for me. She fed me and clothed me.... So basically I owe her for being a mother 🙄
I'm on the phone with my doctor's office and they transferred me and all of a sudden I'm in tears and I can't breathe. I have no idea how I'm supposed to make this appointment if I can't stop crying and make words happen.
@eatinwatermelonseeds you're doing so good. One step at a time. I hope the phone call is over and you were able to make the appointment, I know you can do it ❤️
I have PTSD from everything that happened surrounding DS's birth. This past weekend was full of joy over DS turning one and full of misery reliving that day and the ones that followed. I'm trying hard not to think about where I was exactly a year ago today. Though what I think I'm supposed to do is let the feelings just happen and then they can be over. It's like it happened yesterday. That's all for me.
I bawled through that whole call. She started giving me numbers to crisis lines in case I lose my mind before my appointment in an hour. I guess crying while making an appointment isn't normal... It's at 11:20 today, it's 10:13 now. This is going to require getting up, dressing me and my kid, doing something to my rats nest they call hair, brush our teeth. And I realize that all is super basic but it's incredible daunting. My husband is studying at the school now and we have plans later he's trying to get his work done so he can follow through with. I'm still crying. I don't know how I got here again. I thought I had it under control and it hit me so hard so quickly.
@eatinwatermelonseeds I wish I knew how to help but I'll do the best I can: put on comfy leggings and a sweatshirt, pull your hair back in a ponytail, easy clothes for DS, quick brushing of teeth. It's hard but you can do it, one step at a time ❤️
@eatinwatermelonseeds Good for you for getting the appointment, like @DuchessOfCambridge said, easy clothes, brushing teeth, all one step at a time. You got this, you can do this. I hope it helps.
DD born PPROM preemie at 36 weeks on 10/1/17 after over a year TI, then 3 failed IUIs, and finally a successful IVF FET.
Due with #2 5/2/19 after HIO once in my FW, because apparently that's how life works now. Team Blue!
Thanks you guys. DS declared he did not want to go with me but after a couple minutes dressed himself completely and brushed his teeth. I threw on leggings and a sweater and threw my hair up. I usually can't leave my house without makeup but I imagine I'm going to cry a lot and my setting spray isn't that good.
@eatinwatermelonseeds the hardest part is getting there. Just think about how relieved you will feel once you step foot into your doc's office. You got this girl!
She prescribed medication, and my fucking insurance wants an explanation why she's prescribing a $5000 medication. It could take 5-7 days to process this shit so they'll cover it and in the meantime I'm losing my goddamn mind. I'm just so fucking done right now. SOMETHING needs to work out in this one particular situation. I cannot fucking do this alone anymore.
@eatinwatermelonseeds I’m so sorry you’re having to deal with dumb insurance issues in a situation like this. I hope you’re night is going better than your afternoon ❤️
Im so thankful for this thread. I’ve literally never talked to anyone else who’s been throughout depression and PPD about my own issues and this is my third go around. I’ve dealt with depression and anxiety since I wasn’t 15. I’ve been on multiple meds. Currently taking Pristique and Wellbutrin. They were working until I got pregnant but since then it’s like everything has changed. I have at least 3 days a week I don’t want to get out of bed. I’m just glad we now have a place to share and support each other!
So, after losing my shit earlier, I came home and decided I NEED something. So, I did a shit ton of research about cannabis during pregnancy. I compared studies and also found an article written by a doctor that compares different studies. Tonight I went to a dispensary and bought CBD oil. It's a very tiny amount of thc and a much larger amount of CBD. It is used medicinally, not for a high. I'm still scared. I talked with the girl behind the counter and she said she used cannabis during her pregnancy (though, that's not surprising in there 😂) and her mom did. My mom also did and I had a long discussion with her today. Comparing the risks of cannabis with the risks of pharmaceuticals (which aren't well studied either) and the fact that I'll use the oil minimally versus having to take mood stabilizers daily. I think this might be either a good alternative or at least help in the meantime.
I'll let you know if I get the guts to take it. And please, please don't judge. This is not for recreational use, it was not a first choice, and it was following extensive research (which I've been doing for weeks now but really got serious about today). I just need to do something.
@eatinwatermelonseeds no judgement coming from me! Know that cannabis was sooo different when your mom would have been pregnant though. My mom smoked cigarettes and weed when pregnant with me. It's not nearly scientifically tied but I do have asthma (Also runs in my family) and ADHD which is very mild. I'm glad you're doing your research for you.
Think about whether using it will end up helping or hindering your mentality. I've heard mother's guilt is a bitch from others so I just dont want you to wish you hadn't later. I'll send all my good vibes your way whichever way you lean
@kbeers13 thank you. I actually did extensive research particularly to see if I'm like this because my mom smoked. And research seems to dictate that without there being a predisposition for mental illness, prenatal cannabis alone does not cause mental illness.
I need something. And obviously getting pharmaceuticals at the moment isn't an option. I called my doctor's office and never heard back. I also feel so much better about cannabis considering I've never been a daily user and don't intend to become one and a pharmaceutical would require daily use. The drug I will be taking is also associated with more negative outcomes than cannabis is.
And mother's guilt seriously is a bitch. It's why I've put off doing anything for this until now (when I feel like I'm not far from having suicidal ideations). My son has so much that's challenged us and though there's no connection to anything I did while pregnant (I never used cannabis during my pregnancy, and the only medication I took was Tylenol) I still blame myself. But I don't think I'm getting out of this without taking something. I can't do this alone. And both options run risks. 😞
@eatinwatermelonseeds is this something you could discuss with your therapist as well, and your doctor? Together and with you, it might be decided that actually, the benefits of the oil outweigh potential risks and is overall a better option for you than the medicine anyway. Just in case that's something that would lessen the guilt, if you have "permission".
@DuchessOfCambridge I tried to talk to my doctor about it and she was adamant that she could not, as a medical professional, recommend the use of cannabis during pregnancy. And that was pretty much the end of the conversation. I think it may be a liability thing. I mean, pharmaceuticals are okay because they are approved by the FDA, but cannabis is still illegal in most states and federally. It sucks a lot because I've always felt it to be safer but I really really really hate not following doctor recommendations.
All that said, I tried some. I took a teeny tiny drop of it. I felt great. For the first time in weeks, I got off my couch with no effort and cleaned. I talked to my husband with the respect he deserved. I had more patience with my kid. I'm not even remotely high, just... Happy. Calm. Relaxed. Not miserable, not crying. I had energy. Now I'm going to bed lol. But it was amazing.
@eatinwatermelonseeds both of my parents use CBD oil for pain and my sister, a registered nurse, uses it for anxiety and headaches. It is amazing what a small amount can do! Good for you for trying something and doing your research! I’m glad you got some much needed relief this evening. ❤️
Good for you for taking things into your own hands! @eatinwatermelonseeds I'll be interested to hear about your results if you continue to use it. I've always wondered if it would benefit me as well. So glad you finally had a good night!
I've been awake off and on since my son is sick, and I still feel SO much better. It's long gone, I took it like 12 hours ago. But I still feel happier. I did get anxious having to cancel his appointment because I HATE leaving messages lol. But it's 6:44... My husband is letting his stupid alarm go off repeatedly and I'm just downstairs on the couch waiting for him to wake up. Not frustrated enough to yell at him like most mornings. Just chilling. I don't know if this is THE answer but so far it's given me the most hope of anything.
The medication I'm supposed to take has a long ass list of side effects. It will take at least 2 weeks of taking it daily to help in the least. This was one tiny drop, the only thing I thought might be a side effect, but could've also been dehydration was a headache. I felt calmer within 20 minutes. I won't need this daily. If it gets bad again, I may take it a couple days in a row, but I'm not even sure that's going to be necessary, I just have to see how I feel later. I'm really leaning toward this being the answer.
So there are different kinds of CBD oil-the kind with THC only allowed in some states and the kind without THC which is legal everywhere. Unfortunately, like most supplements- non-THC CBD oil has virtually no studies, just a lot of anecdotal evidence. And it’s against DEA laws to study THC for therapeutic purposes. But they would never actually do a double blind test with the drug in pregnancy anyway.
I took 3 Class C drugs while pregnant with DD and I will I’ll tell you the guilt was real. I was sure she’s be born with 2 heads. But it helped me sleep and she does not seem to have any repercussions. I will also tell you that I saw many many Drs that refused to prescribe me anything so if you don’t have a Dr well versed in pregnanct, they will refuse to prescribe anything. No Dr in any state can prescribe marijuana without risking their medical license. I don’t know that the risks are more than class c drugs I was in. And I don’t think anyone could tell you for sure.
So I guess this my roundabout way of saying do what you need to do, lady. No judgements here. Taking a step to help yourself is the best thing you can do.
Re: Mental Health November
then 3 failed IUIs, and finally a successful IVF FET.
Due with #2 5/2/19 after HIO once in my FW,
because apparently that's how life works now. Team Blue!
I have a history of anxiety, which was controlled with Zoloft. I never had a lot of depression symptoms though, but if I am 100% honest, I did deal with some OCD behaviors prior to going on meds. Like a lot of women, I weaned off the meds about a year before TTC and thought I was going great. I had 2 MMCs before getting pregnant with DD. At 6 weeks with DD, all hell broke loose. I was having weird symptoms related to circulation issues and migraines and I decided to google my symptoms. After googling, I decided that I had this awful autoimmune disease and that I was going to die. Unfortunately, this wasn't just a brief bout- this lasted all pregnancy. I spent hours and hours online reading about the disease, participating in message boards, became friends with a lot of people who had the disease. I went Dr to Dr trying to find someone who would take me seriously. It didn't help that around this time I stopped sleeping. Like for 4 days straight. Ended in the ER 4 times in this period, started hallucinating, and called the Moms crisis line multiple times. Oh and Donald Trump was elected that week. It was seriously the worst week of my life.
After 4 weeks, I got a "rush" appt with a maternal child health psychiatrist who started me on Zoloft and let me stay on the Ambien that the 4th ER Dr finally prescribed me. I'd like to say that it worked in pregnancy, but I really don't think it ever did. My anxiety was reduced, but my OCD never went away and my depression was pretty consistent. If I wasn't reading about the awful diseases that I had, I was reading about ways to commit suicide. It was a really really awful time. DH was scared to leave me alone.
My depression was most manageable when I was at home and not working, so we decided that I should stop working at 35 weeks and I sat on my couch with my dog and didn't leave my couch except to go to Drs appts until the baby was born. I didn't watch TV. I didn't prepare for the baby. I just researched the disease I thought I had and prepared to die since I was positive I would die in childbirth. Thank god I work at a place that actually recognizes that pregnancy depression is a thing and that recognized I had it bad and encouraged me to take care of myself and my baby first. They gave me 18 weeks off paid so that I could stay home until DD was 13 weeks and I could not be more thankful for that.
By about 10 weeks PP, I was back to myself. It was a slow process, but I found myself making plans and actually wanting to leave my house. All of my normal emotions came back. I hadn't felt so good since before i went off my meds.
This time, I have remained steady. I do have days where getting off my couch sounds absolutely dreadful, but I attribute that to exhaustion more than anything. I do, greatly worry about PPD this time though. My psychiatrist is closely monitoring me and we have a plan. I have a therapist that I like a lot this time (last time I could tell that she was not set up to deal with someone dealing with such acute issues). Overall, I feel better just knowing that I got through severe mental health issues in pregnancy and I can get through it all again.
My story is pretty long so I'll try to sum it up. When I was 18 I joined the military, I went through a few traumatic events. I was harassed and treated like shit regularly following these events. I drank a lot, was promiscuous and began self harming to cope. No one bothered with looking into PTSD as the culprit but they labeled me as borderline (though I've been told by many professionals I don't strike them as borderline at all).
In 2010 I was hospitalized for self harm for the first time. I tried to quit drinking but it didn't work. In 2011 I was hospitalized again for suicidal ideation. I had a plan. I was going to do it. But a friend asked me if I was, and I started crying so he reported me to mental health and I was hospitalized. During that time, I was medically retired (this is why you may hear me talk about receiving military pension or retirement, or being retired) from the military after 4 years. I learned in the hospital the second time that I was very sensitive to others' emotions and found it very easy to calm my peers during panic attacks. It's when I decided I wanted to be a nurse.
I met my husband 1 week after I got out of the military. We were happy, but in December 2011 (we were already engaged at this point), I attempted suicide. He promised he'd never leave my side as long as he never had to go through that again. We've both kept our promises. He watches me, pushes me, calms me. He's my rock.
I have since been diagnosed with bipolar II. I'm not on any medication or receiving any treatment at all. My first pregnancy I was on nothing. I managed (though admittedly not well) but the worst was after he was born. I am still not sure I want to be on anything this time due to the paranoia I feel surrounding it, but I do want to be on something after the baby is born for absolute certain.
There's my novel, sorry.
*TW Whole Post Basically*
I was diagnosed with depression at age 17 after I swerved in front of a semi, hoping to be hit. I changed my mind at the last second and veered back into my lane. I spent the next day crying in my Guidance Counselors office, who helped me call 2-1-1 (a mental health helpline in my community) and then call my mom and tell her what I was struggling with. I quickly was put on meds and seeing a pediatric psychiatrist. She was absolutely horrible for me in every way possible and it never got better while I was seeing her.
In college, I attempted to hang myself from my lofted bed using a scarf. My roommate found me and helped me get the help I needed. I started seeing a family psychiatrist who specialized in substance abuse. I didn’t have abuse problems but he knew so much and it was far more helpful than the pediatric psych I was seeing. I was also visiting the psychiatrist on campus at my school. Between the two, I was able to make it through my first three years of college with few other incidents. I was even weaned off my meds medically after learning coping mechanisms to help.
In 2014, I was a Big Sister through Big Borther Big Sisters. My Little Sister was under the care of her grandmother in Minnesota. In August, my little sisters mom, step dad, and 6 younger brothers and sisters were murdered by her abusive father over 12 hours. It was hell for her, but it was hell for me too. I was diagnosed with PTSD shortly after the incident and had multiple panic attacks a week for months after the murders. I was placed back on an anti-anxiety med as well as a separate med to help with the panic attacks, since the anti-anxiety didn’t help with those entirely.
I am still on anxiety and depression medication as I cannot function every day without it. I do so much better with the meds, but pregnancy has definitely made it difficult.
Now, I’m watching this cycle with my niece. She is currently in the psych ward after her 6th suicide attempt. It is painful to watch and so hard as I know exactly how she feels but cannot provide the help that she needs.
So that’s my story.
So none of my family would take me in because they thought I was being a little shit of a teenager and was dating a hoodlum. I'd try to win over their approval for the next 7 years. Every time I saw my mom, she'd tell me that I was a piece of shit for picking some rando instead of family and that when we got married, they wouldn't be there, i wouldn't have a father daughter dance and my dad wouldn't walk me down the aisle.
When we got engaged, I went to their house to tell them alone and my dad said he'd love to be a part of the wedding and would do whatever I would like. My mom said she'd buy my dress for me but didn't want to go shopping with anyone else but me... Umm no... I'm not having my dress memories with only the wicked witch of the West. So she said she wouldn't be a part of it.
A month before the wedding, my dad took me to dinner to talk about the wedding and read me a two page typed letter about how I was the biggest disappointment of a daughter they could have ever imagined and he couldn't be a part of our wedding. They booked a cruise for the week of our wedding so they couldn't be coerced by family to end up going.
Over the last 11 years, I've struggled with the fact that my parents live less than 5 miles from me and I haven't seen them since last April when my dad told me I was the biggest disappointment they could've imagined. I'm starting to realize my worth without them but it's been an extremely tough journey mentally. I've been seeing a therapist for a few months now.
And I had pretty much landed on definitely getting on meds and then I read a review where the woman said her son has xyz problems and she blames herself for being on the meds. My son has all those problems and I wasn't on meds but I blame myself still. I can't imagine actually having a reason to blame myself. I still don't know what to do, I'm losing my fucking mind. Doctor's appointment is in a week ish. I'll be honest with her and see what she wants to do. I don't think I can do this much longer.
But unless your mom gets help, nothing is going to change.
@eatinwatermelonseeds Girl, I'm seriously worried about you! Could you please please try to see a doctor as soon as possible? I would even suggest going to the ER. You being in this state is way more dangerous than you taking the meds. How can you take care of your kids if you're not even taking care of yourself? Please, this is really serious now.
I wrote that last night and apparently didn't post it. I'm sorry for that. I woke up today feeling a little better. I'm stressed about this house crap but I don't feel hopeless today. I'm going to read a book that @mrskoz428 mentioned in a different post and just relax.
@eatinwatermelonseeds I'm glad your weekend got better, but please still reach out to get some help and relieve. No one deserves to feel like shit.
My mom isn't an addict but she is very entitled. When I was pregnant, she got a tax return in the beginning of my pregnancy and I urged her to buy a plane ticket then so she could see my son born. She said no, and bought a computer. I honestly think she figured if she just waited, there was no way I wouldnt pay for her. Fast forward, I kept telling her to buy a ticket, she insisted they were cheaper the closer you get 🙄 and then the month I was due she quit her job and said she couldn't come. I think it also had something to do with me saying she wouldn't be in the delivery room because we wanted it to be just us. She didn't meet him until he was 5 months old. But because he got very sick, she ended up coming out literally the day he was released from the hospital, he was withdrawing from morphine and ativan and she spent the whole trip complaining that he was so high and she wanted to go to Seattle and do xyz. It was just miserable. I hope I never treat my kid like that. She's always treated me as though I owe her for all she did for me. She fed me and clothed me.... So basically I owe her for being a mother 🙄
@eatinwatermelonseeds you're doing so good. One step at a time. I hope the phone call is over and you were able to make the appointment, I know you can do it ❤️
I have PTSD from everything that happened surrounding DS's birth. This past weekend was full of joy over DS turning one and full of misery reliving that day and the ones that followed. I'm trying hard not to think about where I was exactly a year ago today. Though what I think I'm supposed to do is let the feelings just happen and then they can be over. It's like it happened yesterday. That's all for me.
then 3 failed IUIs, and finally a successful IVF FET.
Due with #2 5/2/19 after HIO once in my FW,
because apparently that's how life works now. Team Blue!
Im so thankful for this thread. I’ve literally never talked to anyone else who’s been throughout depression and PPD about my own issues and this is my third go around. I’ve dealt with depression and anxiety since I wasn’t 15. I’ve been on multiple meds. Currently taking Pristique and Wellbutrin. They were working until I got pregnant but since then it’s like everything has changed. I have at least 3 days a week I don’t want to get out of bed. I’m just glad we now have a place to share and support each other!
I'll let you know if I get the guts to take it. And please, please don't judge. This is not for recreational use, it was not a first choice, and it was following extensive research (which I've been doing for weeks now but really got serious about today). I just need to do something.
Think about whether using it will end up helping or hindering your mentality. I've heard mother's guilt is a bitch from others so I just dont want you to wish you hadn't later. I'll send all my good vibes your way whichever way you lean
I need something. And obviously getting pharmaceuticals at the moment isn't an option. I called my doctor's office and never heard back. I also feel so much better about cannabis considering I've never been a daily user and don't intend to become one and a pharmaceutical would require daily use. The drug I will be taking is also associated with more negative outcomes than cannabis is.
And mother's guilt seriously is a bitch. It's why I've put off doing anything for this until now (when I feel like I'm not far from having suicidal ideations). My son has so much that's challenged us and though there's no connection to anything I did while pregnant (I never used cannabis during my pregnancy, and the only medication I took was Tylenol) I still blame myself. But I don't think I'm getting out of this without taking something. I can't do this alone. And both options run risks. 😞
The medication I'm supposed to take has a long ass list of side effects. It will take at least 2 weeks of taking it daily to help in the least. This was one tiny drop, the only thing I thought might be a side effect, but could've also been dehydration was a headache. I felt calmer within 20 minutes. I won't need this daily. If it gets bad again, I may take it a couple days in a row, but I'm not even sure that's going to be necessary, I just have to see how I feel later. I'm really leaning toward this being the answer.
I took 3 Class C drugs while pregnant with DD and I will I’ll tell you the guilt was real. I was sure she’s be born with 2 heads. But it helped me sleep and she does not seem to have any repercussions. I will also tell you that I saw many many Drs that refused to prescribe me anything so if you don’t have a Dr well versed in pregnanct, they will refuse to prescribe anything. No Dr in any state can prescribe marijuana without risking their medical license. I don’t know that the risks are more than class c drugs I was in. And I don’t think anyone could tell you for sure.
So I guess this my roundabout way of saying do what you need to do, lady. No judgements here. Taking a step to help yourself is the best thing you can do.