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PAIF Graduates - New Mommies - September 2018

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Re: PAIF Graduates - New Mommies - September 2018

  • @Polythene Pam we stuck rolled up towels under the crib sheet to create a u shape when we incline the crib. Helped keep her from going to far. But saline, humidifier and cuddles are about it. And seriously the man cold is awful. The worst part is that for DH, he actually does get it worse. He ends up with fevers and more with every cold, while I usually just get the congestion. 
  • @Polythene Pam yes, men are such babies. They just can't handle things like being sick. Or in my current case, being tired! And he's not even getting up every time! I'm like, seriously, you're complaining? I do not want to hear it. He regularly gets a stretch of 4 hours or more. What I would do for 4 hours right now. I know it will never be even, but come on. I told him that I'm going to start pumping soon so that he can do one of the night feedings, and he was like negative about that. Uh, yes you will be helping me, or I'm going to be pushed to my breaking point. Ugh.
    @Holls214 so sorry about the pain. I can't imagine dealing with that and the baby. I really hope the will get you some relief.
    @Dragonfly6191 how are you holding up with the 2 babies? I can't even imagine how hard that must be. Do you guys have some help?
    TTC #1
    me- 37, DH- 38
    Married 6.28.14, started TTC right away
    BFP Nov 2015, PPROM Feb 2016
    ER #1 May 2017, 15 retrieved, 10 fertilized, 3 day 5.
    ER#2 July 2017, 22 retrieved, 13 fertilized, 6 day 5/6
    9 embryos tested for pgs and pgd.  
    FET #1 9.29.17- 1 embryo-BFN
    FET#2 12.19.17- I embryo-BFP 1/1/18! Happy New Year to me! EDD 9/6/18
    Baby boy born 9.11.18- the love of my life!

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  • @gfgrump
    My husband always complained (and still complains) about "how little sleep he gets"....but he regularly gets way more sleep than I do since he doesn't get up when the baby wakes and wants a bottle, attention, etc. At least it's better now since she sleeps most of the night so I'm getting more than 2 or 3 hours of sleep a night, but I'm still getting up at 5:30 or 6 am (5 or 6 hours sleep usually) when she does and getting started with my day while he sleeps until 7 (during the week) or later (weekends). Men are complete babies! 
    ~~ Our Story in Spoiler! TW loss/child~~
    Fall 2012 -- started TTC
    Summer 2015 - no BFP yet, labs normal, referred to RE
    Fall 2015 - Summer 2016 - Further testing all normal. 3 IUI's -- BFN. Recommended move to IVF. Planned cycle for fall 2016.
    September 2016 - Surprise natural BFP. MMC @ 8 weeks. RE expressed confidence that we just needed the 'right' embryo.
    Fall 2016 - Spring 2017 -- Break from TTC
    June 2017 - Started IVF; egg retrieval for freeze all cycle. 9 mature eggs retrieved, 5 fertilized. 2 4BB embies on ice.
    August 2017 - FET transfer both embies. BFP.  Twin pregnancy confirmed by ultrasound. EDD 4/28/18
    September 2017 - Twin B stopped developing; Twin A doing perfectly! Graduated from RE @ 10 weeks
    March 2018 - Baby Girl born via C/S due to pre-eclampsia -- strong and healthy!

    TTC #2
    January/Feb 2021 - Freeze-all IVF cycle 
    March 2021 - FET of 1 PGS normal female embryo. BFP! Beta #1 156,  #2 472, #3 1241, #4 5268 EDD 12/5/21 - Christmas baby!


    "When all is lost then all is found."


  • @PolythenePam suctioning and Vicks on the chest may also help and yes, men are babies. My DH would complain about minor aches and pains so much when I was recovering from my c-section and I would just glare at him!

    @gfgrump I’ve been doing nights all by myself and I truly regret it. I thought since I’m still on maternity leave and DH has to go to work that I should let him sleep. Plus I’m breastfeeding so there’s not much he could do but trust me it makes a big difference even if he just gets up to help with diaper changes or burping and putting baby back to sleep. Not to mention he still complains about being ‘soooo tired’ anyway when he doesn’t even help at nights. I’ve already told him when I go back to work we are going to start splitting the nights equally.

    @Holls214 Ok good. They will likely have to do a lot of blood tests but hopefully they can give you an answer after that. Good luck tomorrow and let us know how it goes. 
  • @safire3 thanks and I will. I did all the nights mostly when my husband went back to work and I was still on leave. He would help out a couple nights a week which was great but I wasn’t BF at all so he could help. We are both always talking about how tired we are. It’s hard. We switch off nights and sleeping in on the weekends so that helps. 
    TTC 4 years. 7 failed IUI's with either Clomid, Femara and/or Trigger Shots. Started IVF journey in February 2017. Polyps removed in May. 1st IVF Transfer September 26th. BFP. Expected due date 6/14/18. Baby boy born 5/25/18 at 6 lb 9 oz. My bundle of joy. 
  • I saw this article online today and it made me think of our screentime discussions!

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/20/health/screentime-guilt-parenting-strauss/index.html

    I really agree with the take-away -- screentime is only bad if it's replacing engaging with the real world -- going out, reading books, drawing, school, friends.  I think this is true with babies as well -- screentime in the context of a highly stimulating and engaging family life is probably not a big deal. 

    I admit, I've been a little stressed about screentime of late since I don't want to screw up her development but she finds tv and videos fascinating. It will also calm her down if she's fussy since it distracts her from whatever is bugging her (and she'll often doze off if she's been fussy because she's overtired -- we have a nap-fighter in our house). I try to keep everything as kid friendly as possible but I watch historical documentaries when I cook and I love explaining the topics to her (mostly kings and queens, life in the middle ages, that kind of thing). It's not replacing normal interaction; I think in some cases it augments it since she can see alot of things on the videos that she won't see in real life (like snow or fall leaves). 

    Speaking of screentimes, last week we were watching some nursery song videos on youtube and I found one particularly disturbing...it was called 'the five little ducks' and each time the mama duck took her ducks to the pond to swim, one little duck would go missing. YET SHE KEPT BRINGING THEM BACK TO THE SAME POND UNTIL SHE HAD NO BABY DUCKS LEFT. I told my baby that the mama duck was sorta stupid :wink:

    ~~ Our Story in Spoiler! TW loss/child~~
    Fall 2012 -- started TTC
    Summer 2015 - no BFP yet, labs normal, referred to RE
    Fall 2015 - Summer 2016 - Further testing all normal. 3 IUI's -- BFN. Recommended move to IVF. Planned cycle for fall 2016.
    September 2016 - Surprise natural BFP. MMC @ 8 weeks. RE expressed confidence that we just needed the 'right' embryo.
    Fall 2016 - Spring 2017 -- Break from TTC
    June 2017 - Started IVF; egg retrieval for freeze all cycle. 9 mature eggs retrieved, 5 fertilized. 2 4BB embies on ice.
    August 2017 - FET transfer both embies. BFP.  Twin pregnancy confirmed by ultrasound. EDD 4/28/18
    September 2017 - Twin B stopped developing; Twin A doing perfectly! Graduated from RE @ 10 weeks
    March 2018 - Baby Girl born via C/S due to pre-eclampsia -- strong and healthy!

    TTC #2
    January/Feb 2021 - Freeze-all IVF cycle 
    March 2021 - FET of 1 PGS normal female embryo. BFP! Beta #1 156,  #2 472, #3 1241, #4 5268 EDD 12/5/21 - Christmas baby!


    "When all is lost then all is found."


  • Just ordered a wedge to come today, and I’ll try rolling towels to help him stay. Thanks for all the tips!!

    and seriously men.. for awhile I slept in our guest room with Graham just so I wouldn’t have to deal with DH needing a nap from being “soooo tired.” When I came back into our room, I asked him to do a diaper and fill up my water while I’d go to the bathroom, then I’d nurse Graham. You’d think he was dying! He’s helpful in other ways but nights were not his best..
  • Polythene PamPolythene Pam member
    edited September 2018
    @mbradfo2 what a great read! I have memories of coming home from school, eating lunch with my mom and sitting to watch Sesame Street or zoobaleezoo (???) I still have guilt sometimes but my daughter doesn’t nap or rest anymore, so that hour of tv midday is truly needed or she’s a wrek by 5. I’ll get other stuff done or cuddle and watch with her. And the shows now are awesome! Daniel Tiger was THE BEST, I was sad when she outgrew him. The other day she drew a full 6 page book on outer space, all thanks to a Bubble Guppies episode. So much of our guilt is thanks to social media, that’s a great reminder that we did the same things (plus roamed free most of our days!) and turned out pretty great :)

    i do agree it’s a problem if it interferes with social or active things. I’m obviously on my phone right now but I try to limit that in front of the kids, especially with my daughter really imitating me. But I was at the zoo with both kids, and passed a mom, dad- both scrolling their phones, and the kid in the stroller on a tablet. Maybe there was a reason but I see that a lot.. just pushes me to put my phone away more.
  • @mbradfo2 that little ducks sons sound horrifying!  I read some old mother goose fairy tales to the baby and I was like whoa I don’t remember these being so dark.  Also about the screen time thing a little bit never killed anyone. I remember watching quite a bit of pbs as a kid but I also remember doing tons of other stuff besides that. What worries me most is the phones/tablets. We have been trying to cut back but it is so so hard. I didn’t realized how attached I was until I tried to stop. 
    Me:38 DW:33 
    TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned 
    Dx: My wife has no sperm  :D and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look
    2016

     * April IUI#1 - BFN
     * June IUI#2 - BFN
     * July IUI#3 - CP  :'(
     * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts.  Fresh Transfer 1  - CP  :'(
     * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP  :'(
    2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
     * April/May IVF#2:  9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts!  Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
     * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
     * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
    2018 DD born 8/20/18
    2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
      * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7  Beta#2: 322.6

  • Hope u get some answers tomorrow!! @Holls214

    @gfgrump I'm so exhausted I can't remember if I posted but I fed my girl all the time! And still naps 20min through the night till 4:5am and then finally sleeps for 3hrs! It's so hard but will hopefully get easier!  I'm laughing about all the men comments!  I'm currently doing this on my own which the benefit is he can't tell me how I'm doing it all wrong so that's the bonus!! It's tough luckily I've got family!  I will say just going to the bathroom I try and get creative to keep her happy but it's not easy!!  Try and have your husband let u slee for 3hrs during the day then.  I have to do the work BUT my mom did watch the baby one day so I could sleep a few hours as I was practically passing out taking a shower.  My baby gave her a hard time but she had to manage so I could function!! At the time I was bf too! I'm supplementing formula now to help but still.  Hoping it'll get easier soon!!

    @Polythene Pam sorry for the cold hope everyone is feeling better!!  My lil one has been sneezing more and I'm really hoping she's not getting a cold...she's just too lil for that!! 
    History of TTC in spoiler box
    TTC since 2014
    Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
    7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN 
    IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle :( RE thought I would get at least 10.
    IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
    IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F,  3DT)-BFP  with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks  :'( 
    IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP  (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal  :'( 
    IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! :)
    IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! :)
    IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!

  • @safire3 how is ozi doing? Have u been getting more sleep? My girl still likes partying all night! I take her for an evening walk and a late bath and nothing...she's still wide awake!!
    History of TTC in spoiler box
    TTC since 2014
    Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
    7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN 
    IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle :( RE thought I would get at least 10.
    IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
    IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F,  3DT)-BFP  with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks  :'( 
    IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP  (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal  :'( 
    IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! :)
    IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! :)
    IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!

  • @gfgrump we are managing, but admittedly it's a LOT harder than I thought it would be. I have SO much childcare experience, even with newborns I thought we could handle this, but admittedly once a day I think "Man if there were only just ONE!". My MIL came in on Friday and leaves tomorrow so she's been a huge help for a few days. So far I've only been alone for 2 days all day while DH worked. Once she goes back I will have to figure out how to be super mom! Thankfully DH has been splitting up the nights with me so I'm getting a *little* sleep - the couple of nights I tried to do it by myself all night and all day I just absolutely melted down. With sleep I'm a champ, without it......

    1st cycle of IVF started April 9, 2017. ER- 15R, 7M, 5F, 4 frozen, 1 transferred. BFN

    May 2017- Hysteroscopy

    June-August 2017- 2nd attempt via FET. 2 Embryos transferred on 08/10/17. BFP, but ended in a chemical.

    November 2017- Hysteroscopy

    January 2018- 3rd attempt via FET. 2 Embryos transferred on 01/25/18. BOLD BFP on a HPT on 1/31, Beta # 1 on 2/5= 721. Beta # 2 on 2/7- 1903. 6wk+3 day scan revealed twins!

    I'm blogging about it here

  • @ dragonfly6191 DH and I say that all the time, if it was just one. Sleep and self care is a huge part of continuing to function with a newborn, doubly so with twins. I'm expecting mine to begin walking in the next month or so (so not ready).  :# It flies by, it really does.

    DO NOT be disappointed with yourself (or DH) now that your MIL is gone when the chaos starts to creep back. Embrace the crazy. My husband and I have figured out, especially during the work week, that if we can just keep clean bottles, clean clothes for us and them, and clean diapers (we are cloth diapering) everything else can sit until we get some extra time (and sometimes extra hands) on the weekends. It doesn't matter that my kitchen floor will have puff cereal snacks on it for a couple of days, (the cats think they are play toys). Your time is better spent sitting on the floor and play with your twins than running around cleaning anyway.  :smiley:



  • @Dragonfly6191 Its amazing you already have your twins home!! It has to be so hard as I sit here with my singleton and am so sleep deprived! I was first pregnant with twins and even though I lost them I still think of them often BUT I do wonder how the hell I would manage! Hang in there! Glad hubby gave u a few hours of sleep it's so important!! My girl has been a terrible sleeper now that I'm supplementing some formula she sleeps 2hrs at times and I thank her!! She gets too much comfort from my boob that she looks for it all night sonthat has made it tough.  I dreamed about having her forever so I'll have to manage this Lil boob monster I've created!

    @Holls214 hoping ur appt went well!
    History of TTC in spoiler box
    TTC since 2014
    Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
    7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN 
    IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle :( RE thought I would get at least 10.
    IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
    IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F,  3DT)-BFP  with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks  :'( 
    IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP  (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal  :'( 
    IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! :)
    IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! :)
    IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!

  • @Hopeful_mom Ozi is still a pretty terrible sleeper. We have been focusing on getting him out of the bed. We finally found something he likes and so he will sleep in a rock and play but only for an hour at a time whereas if he is sleeping next to me he will go up to 3 hours. After waking every hour all night I usually get fed up and let him back in the bed by early morning. He also loves having the boob for comfort and to fall asleep. We’ve tried all types of pacifiers and he refuses them all. Recently I have noticed him trying to suck his thumb and at this point I will be happy if it helps him self soothe. 
    My mom visited this weekend and kept telling me how I’m spoiling him and making it difficult for other people to take care of him when I go back to work. She insisted that we let him cry it out twice which was horrible. I just can’t listen to him scream for forever.
  • @safire3 - I’ve never been able to let Parker cry it out. The closest was around 11m when I knew he was just frustrated. Mother or not, you don’t have to let other insist on what feels natural for you. You aren’t “spoiling” your baby. I don’t leave Parker for more than a few hours until 3 weeks ago and he’s 13m now - he’s fine with others. You do you - it’s your turn to parent your child! We all do it differently. 
    Me: 37 DH: 37 - Married 10.2015 ❤️ Canadian 
    DX: Endometriosis - Stage 4, DOR, RPL
    TTC #1 07.2015
    03.2016 - Natural BFP - MC 5w4d
    04.2016 - Natural BFP - Chemical
    10.2016 - IUI w/ Injections #1 = IUI Cancelled (cyst/no mature follicle)
    11.2016 - IUI w/ Injections #2 = BFP, EDD 08.2017 - It's a BOY!
    TTC #2 06.2019
    08.2019 - IUI w/ Injections #1 = Chemical
    09.2019 - IUI w/ Injections #2 = BFN
    10.2019 - IUI w/ Injections #3 = BFN
    01.2020 - IUI w/ Injections #4 = BFN
    08.2020 - Natural BFP - MC 9w5d
    11.2020 - IVF Retrieval - 3AB & 4BB
    05.2021 - FET #1 = BFP, EDD 02.2022 - It's a BOY!

           
  • @safire3 I know absolutely nothing, but how old is Ozi? My understanding is that you can't spoil an infant. You just give them what they need.  My friend told me she nursed all three of her kids to sleep until they were 18 months, she got one great sleep, one terrible sleeper, and the verdict is still out on the youngest. So I think just do what you need to do.  
    @Dragonfly6191 I'm sending you such major props. You are doing two by yourself all day? Holy shit you are a rockstar. I shouldn't be complaining. We only have one and there's two of us home!  And I barely feel like I have my head above water.  

    @Hopeful_mom thanks for the support.  It's good to know I'm not the only one.  Last night I got a taste of sleep as he slept two 3 hour blocks and one 4 hour block. Of course DH gave me shit bc that's going against the pediatrician rec that we wake him at 3 hours. I'm like, he's feeding all the time, one 4 hour block is not going to kill him. I can see he's gaining weight (he now has a double chin and I think some of the nb onesies are too small) and he has wet diapers all the time. I was like, seriously, you sleep and wake up criticize me?  Ugh. Maybe I'm being defensive, idk.  I truly hope our marriage can sustain this rough period.  I know it's normal, but god, there's a part of me that just looks at him and is like, ugh, can you find some work or something? 
    TTC #1
    me- 37, DH- 38
    Married 6.28.14, started TTC right away
    BFP Nov 2015, PPROM Feb 2016
    ER #1 May 2017, 15 retrieved, 10 fertilized, 3 day 5.
    ER#2 July 2017, 22 retrieved, 13 fertilized, 6 day 5/6
    9 embryos tested for pgs and pgd.  
    FET #1 9.29.17- 1 embryo-BFN
    FET#2 12.19.17- I embryo-BFP 1/1/18! Happy New Year to me! EDD 9/6/18
    Baby boy born 9.11.18- the love of my life!

  • @Dragonfly6191 you are super mom!! I have a few friends with twins that finally caved and got a high school “Mother’s helper” even for an hour, they’d take a much deserved nap.. if that’s an option! You’re amazing!

    @safire3 nope. No no no. You cannot spoil an infant. They call it the 4th trimester for a reason, the baby is all over the map with needs and you do what they need. I still comfort nurse, snuggle, often co-sleep Graham (10 months) and he has no issue with other people. Where my daughter wasn’t nearly as needy as a baby and now she’s a cling on. Snuggle that sweet baby, do whatever you need to survive it, you just do you. Hugs!

    @gfgrump I’m in an online moms group from when my daughter was born, we all shared many articles on how hard marriage is that first year. Even now with the 2 kids we’re still trying to figure out our marriage. It’s hard but normal. We have ups and downs for sure.. i love weekends of course but then my husband is all over with his opinions on the kids and how I do things. I have said many times - do I come into your office mid meeting and criticize you in front of your employees?? Come on dude haha. Ugh they’re something.. :)
  • @gfgrump whooo for some sleep! My ped told me one 4 hr block at night was totally fine at 3 weeks and mine was a preemie (7 weeks early). I’d say if you can go 4 hours enjoy the sleep and just wave your hand at your hubby lol. Sometimes easier said than done. 

    Sorry I’ve been MIA. Have family in town visiting but I’ve been keeping up with everyone! It’s sooo sweet watching my 2.5 yr old nephew with Abigail. He is very protective and has to be by her side at all times....even when I’m nursing and makes sure she’s okay. I just wish they lived closer and will be sad when they leave next week. My parents fly in this weekend and I’m so excited for them to see Abigail again and how much she’s changed since July. She started laughing today and omg my heart just exploded more than I could have ever imagined. 
  • Finally got some answers for the pain and have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia. It will be a bit of road to get back to normal but I’m happy so I can get to being in less excruciating pain and love on baby more. This flare up has left me almost immobile but I’m pushing through it for him.
    @mtpbadger I love seeing our niece and nephew with him, it’s so adorable. Glad you had some family time! 
    @gfgrump I think sleeping longer is totally fine. Baby boy would sometimes go 3 hours and we never worried. He was always fed and was tired at times too. 
    TTC 4 years. 7 failed IUI's with either Clomid, Femara and/or Trigger Shots. Started IVF journey in February 2017. Polyps removed in May. 1st IVF Transfer September 26th. BFP. Expected due date 6/14/18. Baby boy born 5/25/18 at 6 lb 9 oz. My bundle of joy. 
  • Oh wow @Holls214 - glad you got some answers there and can hopefully prevent flair ups now. 
    Me: 37 DH: 37 - Married 10.2015 ❤️ Canadian 
    DX: Endometriosis - Stage 4, DOR, RPL
    TTC #1 07.2015
    03.2016 - Natural BFP - MC 5w4d
    04.2016 - Natural BFP - Chemical
    10.2016 - IUI w/ Injections #1 = IUI Cancelled (cyst/no mature follicle)
    11.2016 - IUI w/ Injections #2 = BFP, EDD 08.2017 - It's a BOY!
    TTC #2 06.2019
    08.2019 - IUI w/ Injections #1 = Chemical
    09.2019 - IUI w/ Injections #2 = BFN
    10.2019 - IUI w/ Injections #3 = BFN
    01.2020 - IUI w/ Injections #4 = BFN
    08.2020 - Natural BFP - MC 9w5d
    11.2020 - IVF Retrieval - 3AB & 4BB
    05.2021 - FET #1 = BFP, EDD 02.2022 - It's a BOY!

           
  • @Holls214 I'm so glad you got answers and at the same time, sorry that you were diagnosed with fibromyalgia.

    @safire3 Yeah... Crying it out may work for some people, but it's not for everyone. That goes for all parenting advice. It may or may not work with your baby. I breastfed on demand and I didn't let my daughter cry it out. She had zero issues being watched by others. You do what's right for you.

    @gfgrump haha. I understand where YH is coming from, but seriously it's not like you let him sleep for that much longer. If it was that important, maybe he should start handling night feedings. 😉
  • @dragonfly6191 I am in awe of you keeping two tiny humans alive. I mean really sometimes absolutely nothing gets done except for feeding/changing the baby and maybe a sandwich or chips for myself and I have help and one baby. I can’t imagine it with two so pat yourself on the back and rest when you crash.

    @gfgrump my pediatrician had us waking up with Lucy at first because she wasn’t gaining weight. One night I slept through the alarm (and so did the baby) I was freaking panicked. Called my doc she had a weight check and was gaining and above birth weight so she said she could sleep but no one told me that! The concern was dehydrated babies won’t wake themselves up to eat so it becomes a bad cycle. If hubbs is super stressed it doesn’t hurt to call the doc and ask or just go in for a quick weight check and get some professional backup. I bet they will give you the all clear. Also I hope things calm down in general at home. It’s hard to not be at each other’s throats when your both sleep deprived and worried.  I almost killed DW when she criticizes how I put on a diaper.  And there was another meltdown over the bath process. Just try your best to keep communicating and listening, though why is it so damn hard to do that when the other person is obviously wrong....lol

    @mtbadger it is so cute to see kids with the baby it warms my heart. Glad you are having some fun family time. 

    @holls214 I’m sorry to hear you have fibromyalgia but glad you have a diagnosis and hopefully this can be the start of some treatment and relief. You are such an awesome mom I can’t imagine how hard it can be dealing with chronic pain with a baby.

    anyone who has had to deal with mastitis how long does it take to get better?  I’m on day three of antibiotics and though i think it has stopped getting worse I don’t think it’s getting any better not sure if I should call. This morning I used a sharpie to draw lines on the different red/purple zones of my boob so I could tell if the margins are changing which seemed kinda rediculous but I’m just not sure if I’m crazy or what. 
    Me:38 DW:33 
    TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned 
    Dx: My wife has no sperm  :D and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look
    2016

     * April IUI#1 - BFN
     * June IUI#2 - BFN
     * July IUI#3 - CP  :'(
     * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts.  Fresh Transfer 1  - CP  :'(
     * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP  :'(
    2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
     * April/May IVF#2:  9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts!  Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
     * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
     * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
    2018 DD born 8/20/18
    2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
      * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7  Beta#2: 322.6

  • Hi All! I have been very MIA lately, just struggling a lot with my depression with DH back at work this week :/

    I realized a couple of hours ago that I have a clogged duct. I'm exclusively pumping, usually 6 times a day and haven't had an issues with supply or anything so far. I know to heat and massage, but I'm wondering how often I should pump to try and resolve the clog? My schedule up til now has been pump for 30 minutes every 3-4 hours and I do a power pump first thing in the morning. Should I be doing like, 15 minutes more frequently on the clogged side? Any advice would be great!
    Me: 31 DH: 34
    Together Since 5/07, Married 5/13
    TTC Since 8/15
    3 Cycles Clomid/Ovidrel/TI-11/16, 12/16, 1/17-All Failed
    Switched RE's 1/17
    4 IUIs-2/17 through 6/17-All Failed
    ER-8/30/17-25 Eggs Retrieved=7 PGS Normal Embyros
    FET#1 of 1 Embryo-10/3/17-Chemical
    FET#2 of 2 Embryos-11/16/17-Failed
    FET#3 of 1 Embryo-12/22/17-BFP!
    Carter Wright arrived 9/5/18
  • @sarzee2 I got a clogged duct twice. I just used hot compresses and massaged the area more, but didn't change the pumping/nursing schedule. I hand expressed in the shower as i tried to work/massage the area and move the milk towards the nipple. Not sure if that description makes sense.
  • @sarzee2 - take something for the swelling too! I had a clogged duct often with pumping and when you're massaging and such all the time, the area gets irritated and swells. Massage, heat and then take some Advil/Tylenol before bed or something, I usually woke up with it released. 
    Me: 37 DH: 37 - Married 10.2015 ❤️ Canadian 
    DX: Endometriosis - Stage 4, DOR, RPL
    TTC #1 07.2015
    03.2016 - Natural BFP - MC 5w4d
    04.2016 - Natural BFP - Chemical
    10.2016 - IUI w/ Injections #1 = IUI Cancelled (cyst/no mature follicle)
    11.2016 - IUI w/ Injections #2 = BFP, EDD 08.2017 - It's a BOY!
    TTC #2 06.2019
    08.2019 - IUI w/ Injections #1 = Chemical
    09.2019 - IUI w/ Injections #2 = BFN
    10.2019 - IUI w/ Injections #3 = BFN
    01.2020 - IUI w/ Injections #4 = BFN
    08.2020 - Natural BFP - MC 9w5d
    11.2020 - IVF Retrieval - 3AB & 4BB
    05.2021 - FET #1 = BFP, EDD 02.2022 - It's a BOY!

           
  • mbradfo2mbradfo2 member
    edited September 2018
    @sarzee2
    I know it was really rough for me when DH went back to work. I got really bored and lonely during the day even though I was busy with baby stuff most of the time -- and that just fed into depression and anxiety. I try to make a point of going out with baby at least once a day now and she's luckily old enough for me to schedule naps for her so I can get some work in or just read a book/watch a program so I get some mental stimulation/entertainment. I've found the days have started to fly by now -- I just looked at the clock and realized that it's already 3 pm! So it does get better as you adjust and find what works for you. My psychiatrist also added in a second medicine to what I was taking which helped alot -- Abilify? I think. It's off-label use for depression; it helped me tons during my miscarriage aftermath in early 2017. Only thing I don't like is that it makes me hungry all the time! I'm hoping that at my appt this week he'll feel comfortable starting to take to me off it so I can get rid of all of these annoying hunger pangs!

    Anne is 6 months old today!! ...Well, only 5 months (barely) adjusted. And she's getting her second tooth! I can't believe how fast all of this is flying by even though it feels so slow some days...
    ~~ Our Story in Spoiler! TW loss/child~~
    Fall 2012 -- started TTC
    Summer 2015 - no BFP yet, labs normal, referred to RE
    Fall 2015 - Summer 2016 - Further testing all normal. 3 IUI's -- BFN. Recommended move to IVF. Planned cycle for fall 2016.
    September 2016 - Surprise natural BFP. MMC @ 8 weeks. RE expressed confidence that we just needed the 'right' embryo.
    Fall 2016 - Spring 2017 -- Break from TTC
    June 2017 - Started IVF; egg retrieval for freeze all cycle. 9 mature eggs retrieved, 5 fertilized. 2 4BB embies on ice.
    August 2017 - FET transfer both embies. BFP.  Twin pregnancy confirmed by ultrasound. EDD 4/28/18
    September 2017 - Twin B stopped developing; Twin A doing perfectly! Graduated from RE @ 10 weeks
    March 2018 - Baby Girl born via C/S due to pre-eclampsia -- strong and healthy!

    TTC #2
    January/Feb 2021 - Freeze-all IVF cycle 
    March 2021 - FET of 1 PGS normal female embryo. BFP! Beta #1 156,  #2 472, #3 1241, #4 5268 EDD 12/5/21 - Christmas baby!


    "When all is lost then all is found."


  • Thanks @persnickity and @JWatt5 ! I'll keep up what I'm doing and add in some Advil at night, hope it clears up in a day or two!
    Me: 31 DH: 34
    Together Since 5/07, Married 5/13
    TTC Since 8/15
    3 Cycles Clomid/Ovidrel/TI-11/16, 12/16, 1/17-All Failed
    Switched RE's 1/17
    4 IUIs-2/17 through 6/17-All Failed
    ER-8/30/17-25 Eggs Retrieved=7 PGS Normal Embyros
    FET#1 of 1 Embryo-10/3/17-Chemical
    FET#2 of 2 Embryos-11/16/17-Failed
    FET#3 of 1 Embryo-12/22/17-BFP!
    Carter Wright arrived 9/5/18
  • Thanks @mbradfo2 ! I know it's too early for me to even be stressed about the lack of schedule/ability to predict anything...Carter is only 3 weeks old today. But it's hard not knowing how long he's going to sleep, when he's going to start screaming cause he's hungry/wet, etc. So that feeds into this frantic feeling of like, "omg need to wash bottles now, need to fold laundry now, need to pump now" cause what if he starts fussing? I think it will help a lot more when I can say "ok I know he's going to sleep for 2 hours, let's go for a walk" or whatever.

    DH and my BFF have been telling me I need to go back to my therapist...last saw her the week before I was induced and I've been seeing her for almost 5 years. But even the thought of taking the time to do that stresses me out since it will be 2 hours+ that I'm away between getting ready, commuting into the city and the actual session itself. Maybe in another month or so I'll feel more comfortable doing that.
    Me: 31 DH: 34
    Together Since 5/07, Married 5/13
    TTC Since 8/15
    3 Cycles Clomid/Ovidrel/TI-11/16, 12/16, 1/17-All Failed
    Switched RE's 1/17
    4 IUIs-2/17 through 6/17-All Failed
    ER-8/30/17-25 Eggs Retrieved=7 PGS Normal Embyros
    FET#1 of 1 Embryo-10/3/17-Chemical
    FET#2 of 2 Embryos-11/16/17-Failed
    FET#3 of 1 Embryo-12/22/17-BFP!
    Carter Wright arrived 9/5/18
  • Holls214Holls214 member
    edited September 2018
    @sarzee2 can you see if you can have a call with your therapist? I had anxiety in the first month or so as well. Just knowing to relax when he was sleeping was hard and I always felt like I needed to do something around the house as well... 
    @2MomsHoping the mastitis for me lasted like a week or so. Hopefully it will pop and drain for you. That felt heavenly and helped a ton. The heat really helped a lot to get it to the point where it would finally drain. 

    Thanks for all the support ladies! You all are awesome. Although it truly sucks I’m glad to at least have an answer. The crap part is my staff who is a manager just gave her notice yesterday so the time I was hoping to take off to recover a bit more can’t really happen... ugh. The worst part about managing so many people! Now I have to promote someone and train them to replace her when all I want to do is lay around, feel better and adjust to whatever new meds I will be taking. 
    TTC 4 years. 7 failed IUI's with either Clomid, Femara and/or Trigger Shots. Started IVF journey in February 2017. Polyps removed in May. 1st IVF Transfer September 26th. BFP. Expected due date 6/14/18. Baby boy born 5/25/18 at 6 lb 9 oz. My bundle of joy. 
  • Thanks again for support on this issue ladies. My mom even suggested that if I don’t train him to stay down on his own more then I’m putting him at risk to be abused by a nanny later on because they will get frustrated with him. That made me feel awful. Making these decisions is so hard. I just want to do what’s best for him.

    @gfgrump Ozi is only 2.5 months old. Also I think all marriages go through a rough patch after kids. I sometimes have an intense loathing for DH which I think comes from a combination of hormonal changes and resentment from feeling like I’m shouldering the burden of taking care of baby and house right now. Something simple like him going to play basketball with his friends on weekends or playing video games sends me into a rage which I try to suppress because I know it’s not entirely fair. I even bought a book called ‘how not to hate your husband after kids’ so this is not uncommon. I’ll let you know if it’s any good If I finally get a chance to read it lol. Anyway most docs are fine with feeding on demand as long as baby has surpassed birth weight again. It’s easy to criticize when he’s not the one waking up to do the feeding. 

    @Holls214  I’m so happy you got an answer and I hope whatever treatment they offer helps. My old boss had fibromyalgia so I have heard her talk about how bad the pain can be and she is a physician. Hope you feel better soon. 


    @sarzee2 I still get that panicky feeling and Ozi is over 2 months old. He had been hard to get on a schedule and hates to be put down. I leave lots of stuff for when DH comes home or when I have help like some family member visiting who can hold him. Also it may be well worth it to get someone to watch baby and go to your therapist. Sometimes you need a break away from too baby too and that is OK. Also I had a clogged duct once. I didn’t increase feeds, just massaged and applied heat and it improved in about one day. Mine may not have been as severe though. 

    @2MomsHoping that’s not silly at all. Doctors do that all the time to monitor redness and swelling. If you are not sure if it’s getting better then definitely go back in. Keep doing the heat and expressing also. 
  • @safire3 that is absolutely terrible that your mother tried to scare you that way!! My daughter had to be held to nap longer than 30 minutes during the day. She went to daycare only taking 30 minute naps. And only took short naps (30-45 minutes) at daycare until she moved to an older kids room. Then she switched to 1.5-2 hours within a week. The processes never had a problem with her taking short naps.

    This is my last week pumping. It's crazy to have the journey end. My daughter is 13 months and now we're just nursing on demand. I was extremely fortunate and nursing worked really well for me. You all know how hard pumping is, so I'm proud to have done it this long. Ugh, I hated pumping! I also had an over supply issue and I've been donating my milk every few months. Tonight's the last donation. In total, I've donated 8.8 gallons. It feels weird to share in real life, but it's a bittersweet feeling stopping pumping.
  • @sarzee2 I second the recommendation to get out of the house. When I have had bouts of depression this always helped even though it seemed like torture at the time.  Just go for simple. A trip to Walgreens, a drive to the post office to drop off thank you cards, a walk around the block. For me being close to home was comforting because of things went south I could always just run away home. But it was good to see people and be part of the world again it also and got my confidence up for dealing with being out in the world. 

    @safire3 your mom didn’t say that!!! That’s a horrible way to scare you into doubting yourself. He’s way too little to have a schedule and any good childcare provider should know how to keep calm with a fussy baby. I guess my therory on scheduling is to try and put myself on a schedule that can accommodate surprise feedings and melt downs. In other words I basically I start getting ready to leave 3hours before I need to get someplace...let’s hope I can improve my time before I have to go back to work. 

    @persnickity wow 13 months is a huge accomplishment!  I found pumping so difficult I’m sure It took a lot of Will to stick with it and you were able to not only nourish your baby but provide for others as well.  Congratulations and hugs because ending a phase in life is always a little sad too. 

    @holls214 and @safire3 the warm compresses, massage and pumping have helped. I actually think the clog might be gone it’s not as hard and when I pump I get like nothing out now.  I can’t wait to be done with that pump. I may reinact that scene from the office with the copy/printer where they take it to a field and beat it with a baseball bat...but let’s be realistic I’m way to tired for that and I don’t own a bat. 

    Me:38 DW:33 
    TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned 
    Dx: My wife has no sperm  :D and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look
    2016

     * April IUI#1 - BFN
     * June IUI#2 - BFN
     * July IUI#3 - CP  :'(
     * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts.  Fresh Transfer 1  - CP  :'(
     * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP  :'(
    2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
     * April/May IVF#2:  9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts!  Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
     * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
     * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
    2018 DD born 8/20/18
    2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
      * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7  Beta#2: 322.6

  • @2MomsHoping  bahahaha burn that thing!! I swear I still have anxiety from my pump from my daughter 5 years ago. And I think 3 months was like a magical switch for both my kids, I could predict windows of a schedule better and kind of plan our day. We still start leaving early (why must someone always poop right before school?!) but we’re actually on time to places most of the time now ;)

    @persnickity that’s amazing!! Kudos!! My friend is using donar milk along with her own for her micro premie so I know from talking to her, some mom(s) are SO grateful thanks to you!!

    @safire3 oh my gosh please don’t listen to her!! My oldest used to SCREAM for me, sitters, the works. Daycare’s and sitters can handle all situations! Plus babies start to chill out and things work out soon. Hugs!

    my phone is jacked up but the book on how to survive marriage after a baby.. haha I need to read that ;) my hubby went to the dr and was instructed to put his feet up and rest after a blood draw. That night G threw up on me, my daughter is mad, I’m walking past my husband just GLARING as he lays on the couch. “I need to rest!!” Oh gosh I was going to strangle him ;) I scheduled 2 moms nights out as a result to see friends.. see ya.. ;)
  • @2MomsHoping It was very much shear will power some days. I would absolutely go office space on the pump. That is if I wasn't so worried about getting a clogged duct or something and needing it. Haha. 
  • @persnickity CONGRATULATIONS!!! That's amazing - 13 months. Wow!! You go girl!! 

    @safire3 - I'm kind of in disbelief that your mom would say that to you. I echo what PP have said, you can't spoil a baby this young (4th trimester is SO a thing) and you are both in survival mode. Like @persnickity, Zoey was a cat napper my entire leave and then refused to nap at daycare (she just loved everything going on around her and had serious FOMO) but sleeps 1.5 - 2 hours in her 1 yo room now and that adjustment took just a few days. Funny - my husband actually bought that book FOR me :) I have yet to find the time to read it...

    @Holls214 I'm sorry you are going through all of this but, like everyone else, glad you have some answers. At least now you can formulate a plan and get meds to help. As they say, this too shall pass. You've got this mama!

    *** TW**

    Me: 37, DH:39
    Met: 2002 | Married: 2004 | TTC since January 2014
    July 2015: MMC @ 9 wks | August 2015: Chemical
    March, April, May & June 2016: Medicated IUIs | BFN 
    August 2016: Started Stims 8/22
    September 2016: Egg Retrieval 9/4 | 13 Mature Eggs | 10 Fertilized | 3 Blastocytes | 1 PGS Normal Embaby 
    November 7, 2016: FET - BFP!
    EDD 7/25/17
    Zoey Alexis born 7/25/17 @ 12:39 PM | 7lbs 14oz | 19 inches
  • My humidifier motor burned up last night in the babies room. It smelled like burnt plastic and woke up the twins. Anyone have a recommendation for a cool mist humidifier? How long has your lasted? Does it last all night or do you have to refill it?

    So I'm holding our little boy after his bottle at a bit before 5 when the smell woke up sister. DH brings her to me and she is, of course, happy to see Mom, after my hug she looks over to her brother. She reaches out and pats his hand then stretches out and kisses his face. My heart melted and my eyes leaked all over the place. That is the first time I've seen that level of affection between them. They've begun what I call "dog pile" sleeping. They will be playing together in the playpen, I'll walk away, come back to find them laying all over each other and asleep. I'm pretty tired this morning but these moments...
  • @stella_700
    I'd be interested too since we have had zero luck with humidifiers. They all seem to make too much noise or break or run out quickly, even Vicks. I blame the high level dander in the air of our house though; we have 3 pets.

    Baby girl started cutting her second tooth yesterday -- I noticed it when I was feeding her some applesauce (since she was spitting out the corn/squash combo...sigh). AND she's getting her 6 months shot + flu shot this afternoon....it's going to be a perfect storm in our house as she's always fussy after shots and now we're adding teething on top of it.

    I'm actually a little anxious about the appt since I don't want to be told that she's still gaining too fast (and she probably is; she's just a long and chunky baby who is a good eater -- her cousins on my husband's side are the same way and they evened out once they started crawling and walking). It just makes me feel like a terrible mom. :neutral:

    ~~ Our Story in Spoiler! TW loss/child~~
    Fall 2012 -- started TTC
    Summer 2015 - no BFP yet, labs normal, referred to RE
    Fall 2015 - Summer 2016 - Further testing all normal. 3 IUI's -- BFN. Recommended move to IVF. Planned cycle for fall 2016.
    September 2016 - Surprise natural BFP. MMC @ 8 weeks. RE expressed confidence that we just needed the 'right' embryo.
    Fall 2016 - Spring 2017 -- Break from TTC
    June 2017 - Started IVF; egg retrieval for freeze all cycle. 9 mature eggs retrieved, 5 fertilized. 2 4BB embies on ice.
    August 2017 - FET transfer both embies. BFP.  Twin pregnancy confirmed by ultrasound. EDD 4/28/18
    September 2017 - Twin B stopped developing; Twin A doing perfectly! Graduated from RE @ 10 weeks
    March 2018 - Baby Girl born via C/S due to pre-eclampsia -- strong and healthy!

    TTC #2
    January/Feb 2021 - Freeze-all IVF cycle 
    March 2021 - FET of 1 PGS normal female embryo. BFP! Beta #1 156,  #2 472, #3 1241, #4 5268 EDD 12/5/21 - Christmas baby!


    "When all is lost then all is found."


  • @mbradfo2 - you are NOT a terrible mom. Zoey has been in the 90% percentile of weight (well, after we discovered my  boobs were starving her) also a good eater, and our ped has never been concerned. On the contrary, they would be concerned if she WASN'T gaining. I hope your next couple of days you get all the snuggles at least!!
    *** TW**

    Me: 37, DH:39
    Met: 2002 | Married: 2004 | TTC since January 2014
    July 2015: MMC @ 9 wks | August 2015: Chemical
    March, April, May & June 2016: Medicated IUIs | BFN 
    August 2016: Started Stims 8/22
    September 2016: Egg Retrieval 9/4 | 13 Mature Eggs | 10 Fertilized | 3 Blastocytes | 1 PGS Normal Embaby 
    November 7, 2016: FET - BFP!
    EDD 7/25/17
    Zoey Alexis born 7/25/17 @ 12:39 PM | 7lbs 14oz | 19 inches
  • mbradfo2mbradfo2 member
    edited September 2018
    @byrneme
    Thanks :smile:  It's hard wanting everything to be perfect for her and then have someone telling you you're doing something wrong...which is not what the doctor intended, I'm sure. She has her best interests at heart.

    That being said, the appointment went perfectly! She has gained but the doctor was very pleased to see that the rate had decreased and she's grown nicely. The doctor was so pleased with her development over all that she said she wasn't going to do the early steps referral she normally does with preemies because she doesn't think it's needed -- she's right on track where she should be.  Whew. I feel much better now. I had been dreading that appt all week!

    Of course, she was still unhappy with her 4 jabs, but she's squealing and playing with some toys now so I guess the trauma was short lived. We'll see if she gets a mild fever over the next 24 hrs; that's been the standard with her after shots.
    ~~ Our Story in Spoiler! TW loss/child~~
    Fall 2012 -- started TTC
    Summer 2015 - no BFP yet, labs normal, referred to RE
    Fall 2015 - Summer 2016 - Further testing all normal. 3 IUI's -- BFN. Recommended move to IVF. Planned cycle for fall 2016.
    September 2016 - Surprise natural BFP. MMC @ 8 weeks. RE expressed confidence that we just needed the 'right' embryo.
    Fall 2016 - Spring 2017 -- Break from TTC
    June 2017 - Started IVF; egg retrieval for freeze all cycle. 9 mature eggs retrieved, 5 fertilized. 2 4BB embies on ice.
    August 2017 - FET transfer both embies. BFP.  Twin pregnancy confirmed by ultrasound. EDD 4/28/18
    September 2017 - Twin B stopped developing; Twin A doing perfectly! Graduated from RE @ 10 weeks
    March 2018 - Baby Girl born via C/S due to pre-eclampsia -- strong and healthy!

    TTC #2
    January/Feb 2021 - Freeze-all IVF cycle 
    March 2021 - FET of 1 PGS normal female embryo. BFP! Beta #1 156,  #2 472, #3 1241, #4 5268 EDD 12/5/21 - Christmas baby!


    "When all is lost then all is found."


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