October 2018 Moms

Official Crazy Family Thread (July/August)

As we entire the 3rd trimester, the crazy, thoughtless, and entitlement is sure to rear it's head.

Come share, vent, commiserate, and laugh at the crazy that is (because we all know that's about all we can do with it!)
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Re: Official Crazy Family Thread (July/August)

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  • @jomama1618 SIL will probably have a GA to place the cerclage stitch (otherwise women involuntarily bear down and can cause their waters to break), but other than that she sounds like a real gem...
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  • @jennybean80 they actually are going to attempt to do it with spinal only. This time there is no indication of dilating, bulging bag, thinning, funneling etc. And is just being done as a precaution since it was necessary as emergency last time.
    She is definitely something else. Lol


  • chopchop25chopchop25 member
    edited July 2018
    Not crazy, just a vent...so moving to randoms :)
  • WOW @jweber4747 Wtf to her indeed! I really have no words for that... I don't think I could have not said something to that... Sorry she sucks, that's horrible!
  • @jweber4747 What is wrong with her?????
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  • @jweber4747 who says that to someone!!  :o
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  • I know. I just can't even with this woman.
  • I feel like some of your MILs make my crazy MIL seem pretty tame! She did tell my grandma at my shower that she "isn't going to be a grandma because she isn't old enough" (she is 60), but thankfully that is about as bad as she has gotten so far. She and I have had our share of incidents in the past, but I called her out on her last one in the fall and she has been better since. We will see what happens.

    @jweber4747 I can't believe anyone would even think to say something like that...just wow.
    Me:29 DH:30
    Married:10/2012
    TTC #1: 12/2017
  • HoosOnFirstHoosOnFirst member
    edited July 2018
    Then say no! You have every good excuse :) milk the pregnancy excuses while you can! You can also say you are trying to save money before the baby comes. 

    But if you do go, just roll with it, enjoy the time and make a clear ask for your husband and MIL to take on additional responsibility for your toddler. 
  • Your mom reminds me of SS's nana (his mom's mom). We constantly worry what she will say to SS. For example. DH had family from SC in town last weekend. We see them MAYBE once a year. And even then, not everyone who came this year. It was his mom's day, but she was happy to allow SS to spend the day with us. it also happened to be the 90th? Bday party of SS's great gma. Who he sees often. Nana is really good at reverse guilt. So SS is telling us how he won't get to see grandma great on her birthday if he comes with us. We had to explain that he gets to see her all the time, but never sees Aunt Kim and how excited she and her cousins are to see him. (We ended up having SS from 10am - 8:30pm and he had a great time)

    I'm sorry your mom is such a pain, but I'm glad your aunt is being supportive. Hopefully your mom will come around. 
  • bel194bel194 member
    I feel like I'm going crazy and I don't want be that pregnant lady who thinks everyone is jealous of me but I'm just going to put this out there... When I was pregnant with DD1, one of my husband's sisters was also pregnant (we were due about 2 weeks apart) and we announced to his family at the same time by coincidence.  DH's other sister made a couple little comments about how she was thinking of having another baby too and everyone just kind of laughed it off because she has been battling drug addiction for the last several years and had 2 older kids already that had been living with and being raised by my MIL.  About a month or 2 later, she announces that she is pregnant with baby #3.  My niece was born and SIL was doing really well; she regained custody of her other 2 kids, got a place for them to live, and was looking into starting nursing school.  Unfortunately about a year later her boyfriend at the time relapsed, which led to her relapsing and now MIL has had all 3 kids for about 4 years now.  

    We rarely ever see that SIL except on the occasional holiday and she doesn't have a phone, so she found out about us being pregnant again through our social media announcement mid-April.  Well last week my 4yo niece came over to play with DD and as soon as she walks into the living room, she tells us that her mom is having a baby and that shes going to get to live with her.  It ended up being true and apparently DH knew about it, but didn't think to mention it to me. So basically I found out from MIL that shes due January 27th, which would mean she got pregnant end of April/early May.  I don't think shes trying to 'steal my thunder' or anything like that and obviously coincidences happen and babies happen and people don't just go out and get knocked up because other people they know are, but WTF.. twice now? I genuinely hope she gets the help and support that she needs to be successful. So I guess the rant part of this is that even though MIL knows that I'm a social worker, but have never practiced child welfare social work in my life, she will not stop calling/texting to ask me questions about legal custody, taxes, kinship care benefits, etc.  The answer to every question has been "I don't know" every. single. time. 
    BFP #1: due 6/17/2013, DD born 6/25/13
    BFP #2: due 6/30/2017, MMC found 12/7/2016
    BFP #3: due 10/21/2018 
  • Yikes, @bel194

    What type of social work do you do? I understand the struggle when trying to get answers about those issues, as I'm sure you're aware that social services are tricky to navigate.

    I'm not sure what state your MIL is in, but I'd be happy to try and locate her some resources if you would like.
  • cjx95cjx95 member
    @bel194 that sounds irritating especially since MIL ends up having her kids time after time. I think I'd feel similarly about the timing tbh too, hopefully she gets help and is able to stay sober this time(:
  • bel194bel194 member
    @sliztee I do grants management and aging services planning so not much direct client contact.  And YGPM :smile:
    BFP #1: due 6/17/2013, DD born 6/25/13
    BFP #2: due 6/30/2017, MMC found 12/7/2016
    BFP #3: due 10/21/2018 
  • This is a rant and a plea for advice or wisdom. 
    Just a touch of back story: DH has 4 siblings, the youngest 2 are girls and the older of the two is married (I'll call her 'A' for clarity) with two kids. Her oldest (E) is 5 and is special needs, has Coffin-Lowry syndrome, is barely verbal, just starting sitting up on his own recently, does not crawl really except from squirming around, fed with a feeding tube thru a 'button' in his stomach. Obviously, comes with a lot of expenses and work to take care of. He just got a wheel chair but can't move it at all on his own.
    (We're not allowed to tell anyone what syndrome he has, because... She doesn't want advice from anyone, but I figured you guys are safe. The Drs also told her that googling it won't be accurate, so don't trust anything found online.)
    They get some benefits from government stuff and kids connection, one thing being what is called respite care. 
    MIL just told DH and his older brother, that they are going to have to put something in their schedules to help with E because she is exhausted. 'A' is over with her kids daily and if not daily at least 5-6 times a week she leaves E and the younger 2 year old, with MIL so she can run errands, like going to the store or paying bills, or working in her yard, etc. If there is a Drs appt, usually in Denver, MIL has to go and take of the younger or help with E. He has therapy, I think every other week, one day and MIL has to go. He just started HIPPO therapy once a month, which is near Denver in Loveland with a horse. 
    'A' has two girls that come once a week (Different days) and help. She has someone come clean her house and doesn't do any of her own sewing (I know that seems extra, but she makes MIL do it all). 
    MIL has a greenhouse (closed now), and sews slips for anyone who orders one, along with her own household stuff, sewing for her other daughter and herself.  
    MIL doesn't EVER say no. The two girls run her absolutely ragged. Our kids basically don't have a grandma because she is taking care of the girls. 
    I do understand we DON'T know what it's like to have a special needs child. We have no idea how much work goes into all the day to day stuff that we take for granted. That said, it doesn't look like 'A' does either. She has never just been home doing it on her own. She is extremely picky with the help she gets. I know for a fact that there would be other Mennonite ladies that would come at the drop of the hat to go help her, but 1. She won't ask 2. She would NOT like it at all, cuz they might do something different than she does. For example, one girl she had helping out, 'A' just stopped calling her because she was folding her husband's shirts wrong, and rather than telling her they don't fit in the drawer that way, 'A'  just called her less and less. 
    She has this respite care that is completely paid for by the government, but will not get anyone else, for no reason that we can figure out. MIL said it's only 18 hours a month. But I'm like THAT'S 18 HOURS A MONTH YOU WOULD BE FREE. 
    MIL looked completely done in. Her health is far from good and her nerves are shot. 'A' just refuses to notice. It's going to kill MIL yet. 
    I don't get to drop my kids off every time I need to go to the store, but I know that's not really apples to apples. But I also don't leave them daily for whatever reason pops into my head. He was going to pre-school this last year and it helped MIL out a lot.
    I'm just so over the blaming that goes on because no one else helps with E, but no one gets a chance! We don't even know how to do his feeds, because it is always MIL! 
    And it's not like we can always drop everything and run to her aid, because we have families too. Now with this cyst on my baby, I know there's no way that MIL will be of any help whatsoever. 

    I know I sound like a total jerk, I just get so frustrated. We definitely get the feeling we're not allowed to have opinions on ANY of it cuz we don't know what it's like. 
    DS 6/6/10
    DD 3/15/12
    DD 6/3/14
    #4 Due 10/26/18!
  • Good grief. Sorry it's so long... Extra good karma to anyone who reads all that!  <3
    DS 6/6/10
    DD 3/15/12
    DD 6/3/14
    #4 Due 10/26/18!
  • @coffee-saur I understand your frustration and I echo what you said about not really understanding what goes into caring for a special needs child so I can’t fairly make a judgement. I feel for you because yoir SIL would likely get very defensive if you voiced your frustration and at the same time it sounds exhausting having that all pent up inside.
  • Okay, so your MIL is paid through the respite grant to care for your nephew, is that right?

    If so, does she work additional hours beyond what she's paid for?

    I hate to say this, but even though it's insensitive of your SIL not to recognize the toll it's taking on your MIL, it's your MIL's responsibility to set boundaries and limitations for herself. No one can do that for her. @coffee-saur

  • cjx95cjx95 member
    @coffee-saur I agree with sliztee. Unfortunately it's up to MIL to step up and tell A she cant do it anymore or nearly as much as she has been. It sounds like she stepped up to help out and A has maybe taken advantage of that. It definitely isnt fair to your kiddos they dont get to see grandma as much but unless she makes a change (which it sounds like she may want to) there isnt much you can do but stand by. 
    Just to clarify did MIL tell DH and his older brother that they need to help out because she's exhausted?? 
  • @HoosOnFirst I wish!!! I considered that, but I’d miss them too much.
  • @coffee-saur I definitely see what your saying. I have know experience with special needs kids either. I can imagine it’s very stressful, but it sounds like it would help everyone if she would accept other help I’m sorry she’s taking advantage of your MIL.
  • coffee-saurcoffee-saur member
    edited July 2018
    I think MIL is paid the respite care. She works way WAY beyond those hours. I asked MIL years ago why 'A' doesn't get someone else for the respite care because she will help out more than enough other than that. If that makes sense. 
    Yea MIL told DH and his older brother, while we were together for supper (not A and family) on Tues that they had to put in their schedules to help out, because she was exhausted. 
    I totally agree that MIL needs to set the boundaries, I just don't know what it's going to take for her to do it. Meanwhile, we get blamed for not doing ???? Insert epic guilt trip, crying, overwhelmed look here. 
    After we ate supper, MIL said she had to go home and cut out and sew an entire dress THAT NIGHT YET. We know good and well, it wasn't for MIL, it's just a toss up which daughter of hers it was for. 
    I'm so over the not saying no thing I could barf. 
    SIL that is not married is 22 and is extremely demanding and orders MIL around like it's cool. She's a whole another trip down entitled spoiled brat lane that just blows my mind. For some reason she can't stay at a job for a year, so she's broke half the time and folks have to pay her bills and help her out when her bank account goes overdrawn. This last winter, she all of a sudden went on a trip to visit the other brother in WY and stopped and had a shopping spree, comes home to no job and her account is overdrawn almost $1000. I don't have any idea how she spent that much, cuz she lives at home, her car is paid for, so her only big bill would be insurance. Guess how she put her account back in black? FIL gave her what she needed. I don't know if she had to pay back or not, but she's never had to in the past, so... 

    Sorry I'm so epically grouchy. I had a trying day and it's just not getting better. DH had to go to a work evening at our school this evening so I'm at home with DD-6. And feeling really stabby if you can't tell  :s 
    DS 6/6/10
    DD 3/15/12
    DD 6/3/14
    #4 Due 10/26/18!
  • cjx95cjx95 member
    @coffee-saur its not yours or DHs or his brothers job to step in and take roles. Especially when SIL hasn't specifically asked you. It isnt fair to you especially being pregnant. I know it's hard but try not to stress over it too much, talk it through with DH and hopefully you're both in the same page about it. It sounds like your inlaws spoiled their girls, (maybe all four kids, idk but certainly the girls) and unfortunately that's on them and they have to deal with the consequences of it. There's nothing you can do but suggest to MIL to stand her ground. You need to as well, if you dont want to jump in and become part time care for SIL you dont have to be. 
  • DH and his older brother often can't figure out why in the world folks let the girls run them like they do. After folks left that night (so MIL could start the dress) we talked about it. Older brothers wife and I get along very well, and we were both mad over the whole thing. We all pretty much agree about not sure what we can do,  if it was even possible. BIL even said it needs to be MIL that sets boundaries, but we all also hate to see MIL worked to death. 
    I try not to think about anything to do with the two girls, cuz I just get upset and it makes my brain hurt. 
    @mamabearcj I really appreciate your reply! I start to really feel like I'm just the world class worst Daughter in law, for just thinking it's ridiculous. It finally gets so much that I kinda explode like I did on here, and it feels like I'm going crazy.
    And everyone else's reply, too. Sometimes, just having someone say 'I see how that can be frustrating', helps me think I'm not the worst person in the world!
    DS 6/6/10
    DD 3/15/12
    DD 6/3/14
    #4 Due 10/26/18!
  • Agreed with @mamabearcj. You are definitely not the world's worst DIL! Your MIL has created this for herself and now is demanding the boys fix it because "faaamily". That's not how things work (and not how they are supposed to). Your lives don't get put on the back burner because she refuses to stand up to her children. Unfortunately, as hard as it is to watch, this seems like a classic version of the girls being the golden children and mom playing martyr. Which often comes down to exactly this, guilting everyone (especially siblings) about how they need to help. Which eventually turns into blaming those that refused to drop everything and help, for the toll it's taken on her. It's often a variation of learned helplessness (which she seems to have passed right along on to her daughters along with enabling it.). I'm so sorry you are having to deal with all this. On top of respite care there are lots of other programs that work with kids with disabilities like these (it's literally part of what I done before becoming a sahm) that SIL could utilize. But since she has shown she refuses to help herself, than she needs to step up. Stand strong! These make for some of the hardest boundaries to set and fights to ensue.
  • @jomama1618 That is exactly what happens.
    I realized too that I said that MIL said that Tuesday, but it was actually on Saturday... I get my days mixed up more than I don't anymore...
    DS 6/6/10
    DD 3/15/12
    DD 6/3/14
    #4 Due 10/26/18!
  • @coffee-saur I have a similar situation but don't want to post about it on a public forum. You are not alone and yes It royally sucks. 
  • @coffe-saur you are not the worst DIL. It's not fair for that to be put on your DH and his brother when she's refused other help. And MIL needs to set up her own boundaries. You're going to have a baby very soon, and you need DH there to help you. 
  • coffee-saurcoffee-saur member
    edited July 2018
    It's getting worse. The younger sister is tired of her job again and is likely going to quit. She's been there maybe 2 months. 
    DIL's answer to her quitting her job is she'll do all the housework so MIL doesn't do any of it, and they'll pay her. She lives ther. And she might take over running the greenhouse that MIL usually does. If she'd actually do the work that'd be one thing, but the likelyhood that she'd do it so MIL wasn't doing it all, is so unlikely, it's laughable. MIL will still do all the work but not get the income anymore. 
    DIL called DH on his way home from work yesterday and let him have it again. We need to just accept her and not be so hard on her don't tease her, because she's pretty sensitive right now. It's the boy's fault that she isn't accepted better. 
    That evening, after we'd messaged the whole family what's going on with the baby, DIL had the nerve to call DH and ask if we wanted them to come with us to the extra ultrasound. Why on earth would we want them along with all their negativity and literally just telling us they're too busy for anything!  
    DH is just as sick of it as I am. He said last night he's not even going to think about folks and his sisters, because we have more than enough on our plates to think about. 
    DS 6/6/10
    DD 3/15/12
    DD 6/3/14
    #4 Due 10/26/18!
  • DH told me DIL called only to tell him about SIL quitting her job and to ask his opinion about his idea for her income. It was DH's older brother who dad called to lecture about how unfair life is for SIL. DH and his brother would talk quite a bit and agree on a lot of stuff. 
    DS 6/6/10
    DD 3/15/12
    DD 6/3/14
    #4 Due 10/26/18!
  • cjx95cjx95 member
    @coffee-saur I'm sorry your DIL is just adding to the stress about SIL..  it sounds like DH is done with it, as he should be. You both have plenty to focus on preparing for your LO 
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