TWW Tue-3/6

LJMoon6 · March 2018

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GTKY: What is your proudest accomplishment?

LJMoon6 · March 2018

Sorry for posting and ghosting yesterday. The afternoon off from work for my appointment was nice.

I have a feeling this thread is going to be quiet today...

Month/Cycle: 11/11

Cycle Day/DPO: ?/11

Timing: best we’ve ever done

Typical LP length: 13

Testing: I’m sick of seeing BFNs so I’m just WFAF

R/R: My appointment went as I expected. He ordered an MRI. He thinks my condition is stable which is good news and bad news, but we’ll see. It means I pretty much just live with the headaches (not all that different from what I have been doing). He also errors on the side of, if my condition is stable, he would want me to try to deliver (if that ever happens) naturally instead of a scheduled c-section. I guess there is some controversy to this but I would much rather go naturally so I’m happy.

I think I’ve gotten to the point in my TTC journey where I just want to give up. I’m seriously thinking about stopping all together. I don’t think it will happen naturally for us. But I’m not ready to see an RE yet. Of course I want answers… but here’s my deal: I’ve only been at my job for 8 months. If I go in for testing and/ or treatment now that’s a lot of appointments to be taking off of work for. Also my insurance sucks and has a 20/80% policy with a 5k max that they will pay per year (I know it’s better than nothing). If we went for testing now that would eat up the 5k right away and leave us with any treatment completely out of pocket. I just really don’t know what to do. Is it better to go in for testing now even though we wouldn’t get treatment right away? At least this would give me peace of mind to know (or not know) if something was wrong. Or is it better to wait until we’re ready for treatment to get the testing done? Wouldn’t most testing need to be up to date before any treatment anyways? I’m not thinking of benching ourselves, just doing NTNP for a few months, till at least I get to a year at my job. Or maybe closer to the end of the year so I can use the 5k this year on testing, and then have a fresh 5k next year for treatment… Idk.

I know this is a super personal decision but I just needed to talk it out. I would really appreciate any advice/opinions good or bad. Feel free to PM me if you want.

CS/Q: nope

GTKY: What is your proudest accomplishment? I’m really proud that I went back to school for a second degree. While in my physics degree I was able to do part time research for the full 2 years, present at a national conference, do an internship, present at an international conference (Thailand), and travel to the Antarctica and the South Pole for more research. I made the most out of the program and I loved it.

catlady2015 · March 2018

I guess I still technically go here. Not full flow yet. WTF, AF?

Month/Cycle: 6/6 (month changeover day - oof, that first 6 was hard to write)

Cycle Day/DPO: 25/13

Timing: +1

Typical LP length: 12

Testing: WFAF to get in gear and stop the drips....

R/R: made it past 12dpo without full flow, so I guess the b complex is helping? I normally would have started spotting around 10dpo.

CS/Q: nobody wants to see this POS....

GTKY: What is your proudest accomplishment? I guess that in my more narrow field, I have been able to get jobs where DH was planning to be. Also landing my current WFH gig so this last move was easy peasy, no job hunting!

catlady2015 · March 2018

@LJMoon6 - I'm glad your appointment went as expected, but so sorry you're having a rough time right now with TTC! I don't really have any advice for you, just commiserating at how awful it is. all the hugs to you.

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kobrien827 · March 2018

Month/Cycle: 6/6

Cycle Day/DPO: 25/13

Timing: -4, -3, -2, O, +1

Typical LP length: 14

Testing: wfaf

R/R: Huge temp drop today so im pretty much out for this month. I looked back on my previous charts and my temp always drops 1-2 days before AF shows her bitch face blah!

CS/Q: Has anyones H had a SA done? MH is doing his tomorrow and wanted to see how long it usually takes for results.

GTKY: What is your proudest accomplishment? Graduating undergrad in 4 years. It was pretty standard at my college to not finish in 4 years and have to go back for a semester or two but I buckled down my senior year and got it done.

@LJMoon6 I hope the MRI reveals some answers for you. I get headaches alot too and know how debilitating they can be. I am also sorry you are feeling down with your TTC journey. I hope you are able to figure out things and find some peace with it all. We are all here for support

lurvleybunchococonuts · March 2018

Heading over to WTO, hope none of you follow me

NoAF yet, but have small clots added to the spotting so I'm out.

catlady2015 · March 2018

@lurvleybunchococonuts - I'm sorry you're out this month! I'm probably going to be right behind you ....

crookshanks10 · March 2018

I kinda go here now. Even though it's just waiting for AF

Month/Cycle: 5/5

Cycle Day/DPO: 19/7

Timing: No good... since I O'd twice in February?... cycle's all jacked up. Has this ever happened to anyone?!

Typical LP length: ?

Testing: Nope

R/R: Rant: How did I O 2/4 and 2/27?! 2/4 was confirmed with OPKs and temp. Missed my early O on 2/27 but was confirmed by temps. UUGGHH Rave: 21 day Progesterone test tomorrow. Pretty sure my doctor's office thinks I'm crazy but, they don't really know much about fertility so... they can continue to look at me with blank stares

CS/Q: Oh, it's madness! I was supposed to O yesterday but it looks like it happened on 2/27 instead. Check it out in spoiler

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GTKY: What is your proudest accomplishment? Graduating college, buying my first house at 24 all by myself!

crookshanks10 · March 2018

@LJMoon6 Do not give up! TTC is not for the weak, and we are STRONG! Allow yourself 1 day to feel down about it and then move on. TTC is exhausting, emotionally and physically, but it will all be worth it! You're not alone in your frustrations. I had a horrible day yesterday too.. but we wHave you had any testing done as of yet?
@kobrien827 My DH did his first SA and they called me the next morning with the results! Since they have to look at the SA right away, you should get results quickly. I hope it goes well!

hlb8179 · March 2018

@LJMoon6 Only you and your partner can decide whether it's the right time for you to go see an RE. But since you asked... I would err on the side of going sooner rather than later. In my experience, it takes weeks or months to get an appointment, then more weeks or months of testing, and then more weeks and months to get cycle timing right to start any treatment. For example, I made my RE appointment back in August per my OB's recommendation, then had the actual initial appointment in December, had testing throughout December and January, went at the beginning of February for consult on test results and treatment plan, started treatment in February, and had my first IUI on February 26. It's a long process!
@kobrien827 MH got his SA results the next day.
@lurvleybunchococonuts and @catlady2015 So sorry that you guys are out for the month. Sometimes TTGP is the worst!
@meladams10 Sorry I can't help with O'ing twice. That seems crazy!

Month/Cycle: 10/10

Cycle Day/DPO: 22/8

Timing: IUI #1 on O day

Typical LP length: 14 days

Testing: in 6 days!

GTKY: What is your proudest accomplishment? *TW* Finishing my doctorate with a toddler at home. There was no better moment than waving to her in my cap and gown as she said "Go Mommy Go!" *end TW*

Avrilmai · March 2018

@kobrien827 not to be a downer, but for a different experience and different expectations. It took 3 weeks to get the SA results. Now my situation may be a bit different in that my OB/GYN ordered the SA and DH had to go to the RE's office to have it done (everything was fine). I'm saying don't get worried or anxious that something is "wrong" if it takes a while.
@meladams10 sorry, I don't know your history, but how long have you been temping? I see you have a ? for LP length. bodies are weird and can take time to regulate if you've just come off of some type of birth control. the typical statement is give it 6 months/cycles to regulate. I've O'd as early as CD8 and as late as CD19. I actually O twice in the month of January, so you're not alone in that.
@LJMoon6 sorry you're having such a tough time. you're right it is only a decision that you and your partner can make. Can you discuss with your provider what kind of time away from work would be required? I know for a SA and labs those can typically be done before/after work. if you schedule appointments early/late in the day you may not need to take entire days off. TTC is an emotional roller coaster. I hope you have a few more up days.

Month/Cycle: 18
Cycle Day/DPO: 20/7
Timing: -3,-2,O
Typical LP length: 14
Testing: I don't
R/R: still sick
CS/Q:
GTKY: What is your proudest accomplishment? I'm proud of setting goals for myself (both long-term and short) and accomplishing them, never giving up.

crookshanks10 · March 2018

@hlb8179 Fx for you when you test!!
@Avrilmai I have been temping since January. It's been very helpful and my temps seem to be showing as they should. I stopped birth control last May, so almost a year ago. I'm so glad I came off of it early. My LP has been short, so I'm definitely interested to see my P test results since I know there's a big correlation with the 2. Did you ask your OB if Oing 2x was normal? I find it very odd. But as you said, our bodies are weird!

Avrilmai · March 2018

@meladams10 even with Oing 2x in one month my LP was still my normal, so I didn't think anything of it. Now if my LP had been really short or really long (for me) I would've had that conversation with my OB or RE.
@LJMoon6 I agree with @hlb8179 it may be a good idea to just call the RE's office and inquire about wait times for initial appointments. It may help you to make your decision.

LJMoon6 · March 2018

@catlady2015 Thanks! Sorry for your changeover day.

@kobrien827 MH had his SA done a couple months ago and we got the results the same day. We were able to look them up on the patient portal of his health chart. My OB was also the one who ordered it and I don’t think we ever got an official phone call, just an online message and letter in the mail.

@lurvleybunchococonuts Sorry about CD1.

@meladams10 Sorry about your confusing cycle. My O days can fluctuate as well. I normally O around CD 17-18 but the last few months I O’ed early, on CD13. I do tend to fluctuate quite a bit so it’s not that uncommon for me. Thank you for the words of encouragement. MH had his SA done, which came back normal, but I haven’t had any tests. I have no red flags to indicate that there’s anything wrong. I’m pretty much text book…

@hlb8179 *TW* Finishing a doctorate with a little one is very impressive! Congrats on that. What do you have a PhD in? *end TW* Thank you for the words of encouragement. I do know that it’s likely going to be a long process. It’s good to hear how long it’s taking for you, it’s encouraging me to maybe go sooner.

@avrilmai Sorry you’re still sick! Ya I guess I could call and see what kind of testing would be needed, at least get an idea of how much time I would need to have off. I work 4-10s so going in early or late would likely still conflict with my schedule. But I’m now wondering if I could go to a larger lab that’s open later at night… Thank you for the encouragement.

crookshanks10 · March 2018

@Avrilmai That's good that your LP was normal! I guess only time will tell what it means for me!
@LJMoon6 I'm glad I'm not alone in this weird ovulating situation. I suppose next cycle I will need to start OPKs early and maybe just HIO more often? I wish our bodies were consistent all the time. I'm glad your husband's SA came back normal! That's a big relief! My DH goes for his second SA on Monday.

EricsWife2005 · March 2018

Haven't posted in YEARS so I apologize if I'm doing something or saying something wrong in this post. We decided to "sort of" ttc again. I'm not charting other that CM, so now here I am maybe in the 2WW wondering if I'm having a long cycle or just really impatiently waiting for AF to start. Either way I'm looking at my chart thinking if I O'd later than the 19th I'm probably out of the running for this cycle and AF just needs to rear her ugly head. Late last night I had the slightest brown tinged spotting, and again this morning.

Month/Cycle: 1/1

Cycle Day/DPO: CD32, DPO?

Timing: Not sure.

Typical LP length: 11 days

Testing: Tested yesterday, negative.

suzycupcake · March 2018

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@LJMoon6 Me personally, I think it's better to get the testing done out of the way. At most, you wait for the following year to start treatment, but any repeat testing would be no more than a couple of hormone tests and a urine pregnancy test. At least that's the way it worked at Kaiser. You can call to the places where you'd want to get treatment (I'm not sure if you have a HMO or PPO) and ask them what their policy is on repeat testing with time lapses. However, it seems to me that you want to do both now so I say go for it!

What is your current work schedule? I know for me, it was 10a-7p. I went into the clinic at 7 to get testing done and MH went in just as early to do his because he has the same schedule. Blood tests are really quick and don't take a lot of time. u/s, hsg, and saline u/s are super quick. It shouldn't take you longer than an hour. The only time it takes longer is when you go in for IUI.

For us, we got up at 6:30, got to the clinic by 7:30 to check in. MH had to wait maybe 30min-1hour to get into the collection room (it depended on if we were the first ones there or not because they only had 1 collection room). Then we went to eat breakfast and talk for an hour until they were done washing the sperm. The procedure itself took no more than 20 minutes and then I laid down for about 15. I was back to work by 10/10:30 at the latest.

Prior to the procedure, I went in once when my cycle started for a baseline u/s which never took longer than 1 hour (waiting and getting the u/s), going to the pharmacy to get the meds, another baseline u/s a few days after I was done taking the stims (stims last for 5 days) to see where my follicles were at, and this last cycle, I asked for an extra u/s on a Saturday morning so it didn't conflict with work at all.

You can inbox me anytime you want to know my experiences with testing, how long things took, etc. to get a general idea of what you might be looking at.

crookshanks10 · March 2018

@LJMoon6 I agree with @suzycupcake , I think it's better to start testing sooner than later. My DH and I have been trying for a few months and with me turning 30 soon and my DH about to be 31, my OB asked if I wanted to be aggressive in case we wanted more than 1 child, so I said yes. The number of times I've heard oh give it a year, blah blah blah, I chose to be proactive, everyone is different. They did blood work and an ultrasound right then, my DH is doing his second SA since his first one came back low in one or two areas next week, and I'm doing an HSG this month as well. If my DH SA comes back as low again, you best believe I'll be happy I sought testing earlier than later, and not wasted time. All these tests are fairly simple and in my opinion, worth doing, regardless of how long you've been trying. Once you do these, I think it'll be much easier to weigh your options and it'll probably be much easier to decide whether to wait for RE or move forward. All in my opinion of course!

LJMoon6 · March 2018

Thank you everyone for all the support!!! I’m having my typical moody/emotional day/s right before AF… Ugh!

@suzycupcake Thank you for putting into perspective what type of testing would need to be repeated if any. I don’t imagine going over a year between testing and treatment… but you never know. Right now my work schedule is 7-5:30 but I have over an hour commute one way. I also take the bus. So I’m gone from home about 13 hours 4 days a week…

@meladams10 I am so jealous that your OB was willing to start testing early. I went to my OB after 6 months and she pretty much laughed in my face. Even at 9 months she was very reluctant to place the order for MH’s SA. Of course I would rather know sooner rather than later if something was wrong. Idk… MH and I have talked about this too, there’s only so far we’re willing to go with treatment. So part of me is thinking well what the hell’s the point of even testing. Ugh sorry I’m a big ball of emotions today.

suzycupcake · March 2018

@LJMoon6 How far are you guys willing to go for treatment? With an ob like that, I'd go check out a RE just to see what he/she says. If you've had more than one SA done and it shows low, that's reason enough to go to a RE. If only one has been performed and the ob won't order another, that's another reason to go see a RE or at the very least, find a new ob. I despise non compassionate doctors.

You are on cycle 11. I hope this is it for you but also, if not, that's a reason to go and start testing at the very least.

I know you feel emotional and this is all so overwhelming. Oooh girl, that commute. I totally understand just having had that long of a commute for two years, but that was in my car. The bus? Buses suck. It might be a good idea, depending on your circumstances, to try to work out a way to cut the commute. That may not be practical though.

So many hugs. You will figure this out. I know that you will and you will have a plan. Everything will be fine

nasah15 · March 2018

Month/Cycle: 8/8

Cycle Day/DPO: 22/5

Timing: -3,+1

Typical LP length: 12

Testing: not yet

R/R: given the poor timing just want AF to show up.. I hate this TWW!!

CS/Q: --

GTKY: What is your proudest accomplishment? completing grad school while going through the worst phase in my life

nasah15 · March 2018

@LJMoon6 I'm sorry you are having such a tough time. Lots of hugs your way

@meladams10 Your OB really is amazing. I'm also turning 30 soon and the fact that your OB wanted to be aggressive in case you wanted more than one child really hit me. I never thought about it that way.. I always imagined having 2 or 3 children and the fact that I probably won't have any by the time I turn 30 thats tough.. It's all so complicated by the fact that DH and I don't live together. I want to ask my OB for testing too but I don't even know if the 1 year rule before testing will apply to us if we are not living together and our timing is not always perfect. In that case how long do we wait?

dreamscapes_ · March 2018

@LJMoon6 If you don't mind my asking, what is your condition? As far as testing, we went in for testing because I went in for evaluation for PCOS and it was determined that I didn't have it, but do have low AMH. So we got referred for additional testing.
@catlady2015 You should see my chart. I actually didn't bother temping this month because it was messing with my anxiety, so all I have on it is AF and when we HIO'd.
@kobrien827 My DH had an SA and we got the results a week or two later at the follow up for all of our initial testing. I'm sure it would have been earlier if it wasn't for all the other testing. I hope AF doesn't show her face!
@lurvleybunchococonuts I'm sorry you're out this month!
@meladams10 I have no idea on your O dates, but hopefully you didn't have two!
@hlb8179 FX for you with your IUI! Your accomplishment is awesome!
@Avrilmai Sorry you're sick!
@EricsWife2005 FX for you!
@nasah15 Hey, all you need is that one egg, so you never know!

Month/Cycle: 6/6

Cycle Day/DPO: CD15/???

Timing: Since I'm not sure when I O, even with OPKs, we're just trying to HIO every couple of days. So CD5, 8, 10, 13, and 15 >.>

Typical LP length: About 11-14.

Testing: Probably going to wait for AF unless I have to test due to a possible upcoming procedure.

R/R: I didn't temp or use OPKs this month because it was giving me anxiety and I decided to just take a breath and not deal with it. So we're really just going with the flow right now.

CS/Q: I literally have nothing on my chart but AF and HIO.

GTKY: What is your proudest accomplishment? Completing pastry school with a 3.94 GPA and then getting within two steps of my dream job before my stupid back took me out of the kitchen.

LJMoon6 · March 2018

@dreamscapes_ I has Chiari Malformation and scoliosis (caused by the chiari). The cavity for my cerebellum is too small so my brain is herniating out of my skull. It causes complications with CSF flow in both the spine and the brain. I've had a decompression surgery to restore normal flow in my spine (they took out part of my top 2 vertebrae and shaved down my skull, and used cow hide to hold my brain in place). Unfortunately things rubbing together that shouldn't be rubbing together causes irritation and therefore headaches and dizziness. I have headaches daily, sometimes progressing to migraines, and get dizzy maybe once a month.

crookshanks10 · March 2018

@Ljmoon6 I'm sorry your OB is like that, I can't imagine. It is just all around stressful!
@nasah15 I agree, the TWW is not fun! I'm not sure if all OBs typically make couples wait a full year, mine was fine with not waiting, but I do also have abnormal spotting and a short LP that I'm concerned about so we're also trying to figure that out. How many cycles have you and your DH had great timing? I would look at that as opposed to just months since ya'll don't live together.
@dreamscapes_ TTC is definitely hard on us with anxiety! I'm glad you're taking a break from all the hoopla. Who loses sleep over temperatures?! Who cries over negative ovulation tests?! ME! Sometimes breaks are needed for our sanity.

dreamscapes_ · March 2018

@LJMoon6 I'm sorry you're still having headaches and dizziness, but I guess a good thing that your doc thinks things are stable enough for a natural delivery. I hope you and your DH can figure out the path forward. This whole journey is stressful and then adding in chronic illness just makes it worse.
@meladams10 Absolutely! I get up at 3 or 4am anyway except on my days off, so that's when I would temp. I just couldn't keep doing it while I'm trying to get my mental state under control, you know?

nasah15 · March 2018

@meladams10 I only started using OPK's and BBT 3 months ago. I had one cycle of 'good' timing on FF. The other two were poor. My cycles vary quite a bit every month, anywhere from 29-36 with some cycles going to 40. I am planning to see my OBGYN for that and hopefully she can order some tests..

mrsduddles · March 2018

@meladams10 and @dreamscapes_ Me too! I lose sleep over it and cry about it. Hence I'm giving charting and all it entails a skip this month too @dreamscapes_, you're not alone. My anxiety just goes through the roof.

Month/Cycle: 5/5

Cycle Day/DPO: 15/2 (I think)

Timing: Not sure how it tracks with my cycle since we're not charting this month but without being too TMI, I think we're good.

Testing: I'll test on the 19th and only if AF doesn't show. Until then, I'm attempting to stay strong.

R/R: Rave- Moving to a new city got one massive step forward this week. DH applied for 7 jobs on Monday. Up until now the job ads have been in drips and drabs but for some reason the gods are smiling and everyone needs a stores/logistics coordinator. So fingers crossed he gets some interviews.

GTKY: What is your proudest accomplishment? Completing my MA despite absolutely everything going wrong that year and needing a 3 month extension, I finished and I passed. And if I can get through that year, I can handle anything (even this TTC stuff!)

crookshanks10 · March 2018

@nasah15 I definitely think it's worth asking for some testing especially if your cycles are so irregular.
@mrsduddles Fx for your DH! Job hunting is such a pain. I'm glad things are looking up for ya'll!

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