I'm still reeling over the shooting yesterday, I'm sure many of you are as well. I know there are things like politics and religion that are "hot topics" round these parts and I'm ok with that. Flame away if you want to...
I don't care which side of the political spectrum you fall on, the school shootings, concert shootings, night club shootings need to end. Here's the link to find your local representative:
I don't care if you want more security in our schools, or if you want stricter gun control or if you want more education for the masses that if you see something say something... things need to change. So please, please write your representative.
And for anyone still hurting this morning know that you're not alone. Hugs to all.
@mrsbubbles-2 I don't see how anyone could disagree with you. You are not judging or expressing any opinion on which side you fall on. You are simple saying do something. I don't think anyone on any side can honestly say that nothing needs done. If more people thought and acted that way I think this world would be better off.
Honestly, I don’t care if I get flamed for this but our country absolutely needs more gun control. To what extent that needs to be is what we should be focusing on.
I don’t believe taking away guns is the answer but SOMETHING has to change. You can bet your ass if an elected official’s child was involved in a school shooting, the wheels would start turning.
But i I mean seriously, WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE???
@Brezzy1928 - I really really hope no one would disagree but you never know. I did edit quite a bit from my original, it was pretty ragey. I think the disagreement might be that one letter or phone call to a representative won't make a difference or that bad people are going to do bad things so what can we do, you know?
I wanted to put the info out there in case there's anyone reading this not knowing what they can do or feeling helpless. One letter or phone call might not make a huge difference but one after another after another could. We need to stand up and demand change. In one form or another. Because the current system is not working.
For anyone not feeling like getting too heavy this morning:
I have zero issues with someone having a second, third, or fourth baby shower. I love baby showers and will oooh and aaah over the gifts and the cake and happily play the silly games. Unless you are hosting it yourself, I'll still attend (see above: cake) but you'll get some side-eye
With the trolls and such, my UO is I wish we were ready to move to a private Bump board, whatever that is. It might be too early for FB but a few people have said they moved to a private board first in their previous BMBs - I have no idea what that means but I want to do it! I feel like we already know who is active and who isn't... like people who show up to white knight randoms but have never posted before, no thanks. But I am sure people will disagree because there are people who are only like 12 weeks along and may have only joined more recently so maybe it's not fair to them? Anyway that's my UO!
@mrsbubbles-2 I usually don't like when people have multiple showers if they are throwing them for themselves. If you are having another because there is a big gap between your kids, you are in a new relationship and this is your first child with that partner etc. that is fine. But, people have parties for everything now so I guess whats one more!
AFM- I don't like when people have destination bachelorette parties. I feel like that is really unnecessary. I am not going to Vegas with you Sorry! You want to rent a limo and go out dancing and drinking around town I am in. If I have to book a flight or hotel count me out.
@mrsbubbles-2 I used to say that I would accept a second shower if someone insisted on throwing me one, but since I’m having another boy, I think I would have to turn it down. I would just end up getting a bunch of stuff I don’t need. My cousin had a shower for both her daughters and they were only 18 months apart. I didn’t judge and totally went, but now that I have a kid, I really don’t know why she needed any of the stuff she got....
AFM- I don't like when people have destination bachelorette parties. I feel like that is really unnecessary. I am not going to Vegas with you Sorry! You want to rent a limo and go out dancing and drinking around town I am in. If I have to book a flight or hotel count me out.
ETA- Words are really hard today!
Yes to this! Every bachelorette party I’ve been invited to in the past 5 years has been a destination party. Whatever happened to one night of partying and then going home? I don’t have the kind of time or money to watch the bride-to-be get hammered a plane ride away
@mrsbubbles-2 I agree with @Brezzy1928 your post is hard not to agree with, this stuff puts my stomach in knots. All of those poor families.. as far as baby showers go I think there could be reasons for a second like a big age gap, different sex but like @lalala2004 if not then why? Since you probably have most of the stuff. @Brezzy1928 I mean, destination bach could be fun BUT don’t get offended if people aren’t going. They get expensive fast.
My UO is probably not that unpopular but people sending their sick kids to school. STAY HOME! I feel like my school is a horror film.
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UO I'm looking forward to a second shower!! In our community we offer to do something for every baby and mom's can opt out. Most moms do a sprinkle for second babies and you can bring just a pack or wipes or a thing of diaper cream. Nothing big, but mainly to get together and celebrate. It takes the edge off of not having family around. They're usually out together by a few people so almost pot luck and low key. Mom's appreciate them.
I would never expect a custom cake, wear a special dress, all of the things you get excited about with your first. Nor would I accept a shower at work for second plus babies.
I guess my UO today is that I don't like showers in general. I've been to a few and just found the games and stuff super painful.
My friends have all insisted I'm having one though. I don't mind getting stuff - I just don't want the decorations and the games and the attention. I'd much rather they just give me stuff privately then come over to the house for bbq and cake one day (with their spouses).
I don't mind diaper parties or something small like that at all. I went to a diaper party that was a poker game and the buy in was a pack of diapers. It was actually fun and they provided beer and food.
@hezzer78 I agree, and I'm not looking forward to my SIL's shower at all (but that's in part to family drama). But I'm so fucking excited for my shower. I think I've mentioned, I eloped and didn't have a bridal shower (or a sweet 16, or a bat mitzvah, or really anything that was about celebrating me). So I'm really excited to have my baby shower. Like it won't be until July and me, my best friend, and my cousin have discussed it more than once. I want all the showering with gifts and attention and fuck yes I'm getting a special dress to wear. I cannot wait.
Me: 28 DH: 29 Married: 6/2016 TTC #1: 12/2016 Benched due to deployment- Off the bench 8/8/17!
@hezzer78 My family doesn't do games at showers. We give people tickets to win baskets and do the buzzer when the person is opening gifts thing. I don't really like shower games either. I feel like they just drag the shower out.
I went to a bridal shower where the bride did not open the gifts at the shower and you were asked not to wrap them. It was strange. I guess I kinda thought "What's the point?"
@hezzer78 That's what our shower was - a co-ed hangout more than anything. No games, just friends and family. We catered lunch and the guys played pool and we just hung out. I still got presents and we did a cake, if I remember but it wasn't "showery".
I have never been to a non-destination bach party. My close group of girlfriends are all over the country, so any get together is "destination" for at least most of the group, and I'd rather fly to Vegas/Charleston/Scottsdale/etc for a girls' weekend than fly to where one of them lives for just one night out. I guess it would be different if we all lived in the same place though.
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My UO is related to showers I guess. I was browsing etsy the other day for baby girl stuff (I'm still dreaming over here haha) and kept seeing all of these huge floral belts that are apparently a thing to wear to showers now. I do NOT get it. Sooooooo not for me, I do not need to draw any more attention to the giant belly.
Given I only have one friend who could/would travel to a hypothetical shower, and my mom and my grandma, there will be no shower for me, and honestly I'm perfectly fine with that. I've been to a few baby showers and they were all so cringey imho. Plus I definitely do not like being the center of attention at any sort of event, even this one.
Neither my mom or my grandma have a computer, or smart phone, or the internet, nor really travel to go shopping (and it's not like my mom ever sticks to buying things I've asked specifically for anyway, she gets what she wants), so I'm honestly not even sure I'll have an actual registry for more than just a personal check-off list for myself. I guess I could for the out of state family that's more family than my own, but I hate feeling like I'm begging for stuff at the same time.
As for Mrs Bubbles original topic, I couldn't agree more. I tend to lean more to the left, but I vote all over the place depending on the candidate and the issues. I also own and use firearms. It's a fine line to walk sometimes. But I think regardless of your political leanings, something has to be done. I'm tired of innocent people and children being gunned down.
I inherited my dad's beloved AR-15 (among many other weapons) and I have no flipping idea what to do with it. I don't honestly think anyone outside of the military should be able own such a weapon. Or barring that, that there should be way more stringent requirements to purchase and own one, like special licensing, extra required training, yearly requirements to meet mental and criminal background requirements. Something to dissuade the casual mass shooter from being able to purchase one. And definitely reinstate the ban on the mentally ill being able to buy guns of any sort.
Guns have always been around in America, and likely forever will be. I don't have a crystal ball, but if 20+ elementary school kids being gunned down in Sandy Hook didn't change anything, nothing is likely to change unfortunately. I don't feel like these mass shooting problems became a problem until the assault rifle ban that was allowed to expire in 2004. I think reinstating that would go a long way into reducing the sheer number of mass fatality events. Then you have the issue of all of the guns out there now, so it'd be pissing in the wind really. But, the NRA has bought our representatives and they're going to keep doing what their money masters tell them to do, not what they were elected to do, as I've found out in the case of my own senators and representatives. We have to keep trying, though.
@calimom2524 I had to go check it out. I don't get it either. Plus all the ones I saw on Google were women wearing the with a tee-shirt or tank top. Maybe if they were wearing a fancy dress or something it would look better. But I am gonna pass on that silliness.
@calimom2524@brezzy1928 is this maybe a southern thing? That's been popular down here for years! I made my own last go-round and used a ribbon from my wedding garter. I didn't buy anything gaudy because I don't like the huge ones but I definitely jumped on that bandwagon then lol.
@Firemanswife11 Aww see using your wedding garter is a nice idea! I looked at more pictures and when they are paired with dress or nicer tops they look much better.
@Firemanswife11 Aww see using your wedding garter is a nice idea! I looked at more pictures and when they are paired with dress or nicer tops they look much better.
I am pretty sure I wore mine with a dress at some point but for photos, I wore a tank top. Lol. But it was a firefighter-esque shoot so it worked.
I agree about the gun control. I tend to shy away from anything political, but this has got to stop and we can’t stay silent anymore. My best friend, the one I just was visiting in California, was at the concert in LV with her husband and 4 other couples. One of the men with them was shot and stayed in ICU/critical condition for weeks. Waking up to a phone call from her that Monday morning still was one of the most heart wrenching calls I’ve ever received. It makes me sick to think about how common these situations are becoming.
@calimom2524 - Just... nope. That is so bizarre, I've never seen one of those at any shower I've been to. But I can see that it would look nicer without the bare belly...
@lolog531 - I am so sorry about your friend's husband. That must have been awful.
@alinafed - I totally agree about the private group. Granted I have no idea how they work or anything but if it keeps the pesky troll away I'm all for it. I keep worrying things are going to get nasty and some of our people will get banned. If we can keep the relative anonymity that the bump provides and have a safe troll-free space, I say let's go for it! Really, what's the worst that could happen?
While agree that we need some more stringent requirements to buy or own guns, that is not all that needs to be changed. Criminals are going to find a way to have/maintain guns, so more laws won't 100% stop gun violence/crime. We also need to fundamentally change how bullying and harassment are dealt with. Most of these incidents come from feelings of being ignored, bullied, or not knowing how to handle change/differences in life styles. Once we can educate people how to better handle their emotions and change or differences in politics/laws/religious believes then we will get better long term results.
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While agree that we need some more stringent requirements to buy or own guns, that is not all that needs to be changed. Criminals are going to find a way to have/maintain guns, so more laws won't 100% stop gun violence/crime. We also need to fundamentally change how bullying and harassment are dealt with. Most of these incidents come from feelings of being ignored, bullied, or not knowing how to handle change/differences in life styles. Once we can educate people how to better handle their emotions and change or differences in politics/laws/religious believes then we will get better long term results.
And much, much better access to and less stigma against mental health care. Period.
While agree that we need some more stringent requirements to buy or own guns, that is not all that needs to be changed. Criminals are going to find a way to have/maintain guns, so more laws won't 100% stop gun violence/crime. We also need to fundamentally change how bullying and harassment are dealt with. Most of these incidents come from feelings of being ignored, bullied, or not knowing how to handle change/differences in life styles. Once we can educate people how to better handle their emotions and change or differences in politics/laws/religious believes then we will get better long term results.
I agree with this.
However, I will say that a heroine addict will still get their fix. An alcoholic will still drink. But heroine is still illegal and there are laws in place to try and deter people from doing harm to themselves as well as others.
So why not guns? Because it’s written as an amendment and is therefore more of a “rights” issue? What is it, exactly, that gets people so much more riled up about guns than other issues that bring harm and danger?
to clarify, this isn’t pointed at any one person, I’m merely asking questions in general.
WTH! Does that girl have twins or is she two weeks past due???? Maybe her arm is making her bump look much bigger than it is....lol. Well, I will definitely not be showing up like that to a sprinkle, lol
This was my flower thing. It was definitely a "thing" at least down here in the south several years ago but I'm not sure I've seen them recently. I liked it but that other one that was posted is ugly. Idgaf if y'all think mine is ugly. I made it and I liked it! LOL.
Re: Unpopular Opinion (UO) Thursday 2/15
I'm still reeling over the shooting yesterday, I'm sure many of you are as well. I know there are things like politics and religion that are "hot topics" round these parts and I'm ok with that. Flame away if you want to...
I don't care which side of the political spectrum you fall on, the school shootings, concert shootings, night club shootings need to end. Here's the link to find your local representative:
https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
I don't care if you want more security in our schools, or if you want stricter gun control or if you want more education for the masses that if you see something say something... things need to change. So please, please write your representative.
And for anyone still hurting this morning know that you're not alone. Hugs to all.
Me: 37 Him: 38
Married 11.07.2015
ETA: Clarity.
I don’t believe taking away guns is the answer but SOMETHING has to change. You can bet your ass if an elected official’s child was involved in a school shooting, the wheels would start turning.
But i I mean seriously, WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE???
I wanted to put the info out there in case there's anyone reading this not knowing what they can do or feeling helpless. One letter or phone call might not make a huge difference but one after another after another could. We need to stand up and demand change. In one form or another. Because the current system is not working.
Me: 37 Him: 38
Married 11.07.2015
Thank you for the link. I am with you 100000000%
@msmonalisavito I am in total agreement with you. I just feel powerless and have no idea what it will take. Sandy Hook did nothing, so what will?
I have zero issues with someone having a second, third, or fourth baby shower. I love baby showers and will oooh and aaah over the gifts and the cake and happily play the silly games.
Unless you are hosting it yourself, I'll still attend (see above: cake) but you'll get some side-eye
Me: 37 Him: 38
Married 11.07.2015
AFM- I don't like when people have destination bachelorette parties. I feel like that is really unnecessary. I am not going to Vegas with you Sorry! You want to rent a limo and go out dancing and drinking around town I am in. If I have to book a flight or hotel count me out.
ETA- Words are really hard today!
as far as baby showers go I think there could be reasons for a second like a big age gap, different sex but like @lalala2004 if not then why? Since you probably have most of the stuff.
@Brezzy1928 I mean, destination bach could be fun BUT don’t get offended if people aren’t going. They get expensive fast.
My UO is probably not that unpopular but people sending their sick kids to school. STAY HOME! I feel like my school is a horror film.
I would never expect a custom cake, wear a special dress, all of the things you get excited about with your first. Nor would I accept a shower at work for second plus babies.
My friends have all insisted I'm having one though. I don't mind getting stuff - I just don't want the decorations and the games and the attention. I'd much rather they just give me stuff privately then come over to the house for bbq and cake one day (with their spouses).
Married: 6/2016
TTC #1: 12/2016
Benched due to deployment- Off the bench 8/8/17!
I went to a bridal shower where the bride did not open the gifts at the shower and you were asked not to wrap them. It was strange. I guess I kinda thought "What's the point?"
That's what our shower was - a co-ed hangout more than anything. No games, just friends and family. We catered lunch and the guys played pool and we just hung out. I still got presents and we did a cake, if I remember but it wasn't "showery".
Me: 37, MH: 38; Married August 2017
TTC #1 October 2017: BFP on 12/1/2017, DD born 7/24/2018 @ 37+1 after induction due to preeclampsia
TTC #2 January 2020: AMA, dx with DOR in May 2020
IVF July 2020: 16 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 12 fertilized, 3 blasts, 2 PGT-A normal
FET 10/7/20: BFP on 10/12/20!!! (EDD 6/25/21); First beta 10/16/20 (9dpt): 148; Second beta 10/19/20 (12dpt): 621; Third beta 10/26/20 (19dpt): 4732; Fourth (and final!) beta 11/2/20 (26 dpt): 22,000+
August 18 Siggy Challenge: April Showers
Neither my mom or my grandma have a computer, or smart phone, or the internet, nor really travel to go shopping (and it's not like my mom ever sticks to buying things I've asked specifically for anyway, she gets what she wants), so I'm honestly not even sure I'll have an actual registry for more than just a personal check-off list for myself. I guess I could for the out of state family that's more family than my own, but I hate feeling like I'm begging for stuff at the same time.
As for Mrs Bubbles original topic, I couldn't agree more. I tend to lean more to the left, but I vote all over the place depending on the candidate and the issues. I also own and use firearms. It's a fine line to walk sometimes. But I think regardless of your political leanings, something has to be done. I'm tired of innocent people and children being gunned down.
I inherited my dad's beloved AR-15 (among many other weapons) and I have no flipping idea what to do with it. I don't honestly think anyone outside of the military should be able own such a weapon. Or barring that, that there should be way more stringent requirements to purchase and own one, like special licensing, extra required training, yearly requirements to meet mental and criminal background requirements. Something to dissuade the casual mass shooter from being able to purchase one. And definitely reinstate the ban on the mentally ill being able to buy guns of any sort.
Guns have always been around in America, and likely forever will be. I don't have a crystal ball, but if 20+ elementary school kids being gunned down in Sandy Hook didn't change anything, nothing is likely to change unfortunately. I don't feel like these mass shooting problems became a problem until the assault rifle ban that was allowed to expire in 2004. I think reinstating that would go a long way into reducing the sheer number of mass fatality events. Then you have the issue of all of the guns out there now, so it'd be pissing in the wind really. But, the NRA has bought our representatives and they're going to keep doing what their money masters tell them to do, not what they were elected to do, as I've found out in the case of my own senators and representatives. We have to keep trying, though.
Something - I don't know what - needs to be done. I agree with others here. We can't just stay silent anymore.
I'm just a Canadian sitting here thinking *don't talk about guns with a mostly American crowd, don't talk about guns with a mostly American crowd*
August 18 Siggy Challenge: April Showers
Formerly known as Kate08young
August '18 Siggy April Showers:
Married: 7/22/14
Baby L: 8/4/2015 August 2015 Moms
Baby E: 11/18/2016 December 2016 Moms
TTC #3 08/2017 BFP 11/27/2017.
Twin B lost 11/22/2017, Twin A doing well.
My best friend, the one I just was visiting in California, was at the concert in LV with her husband and 4 other couples. One of the men with them was shot and stayed in ICU/critical condition for weeks. Waking up to a phone call from her that Monday morning still was one of the most heart wrenching calls I’ve ever received. It makes me sick to think about how common these situations are becoming.
DS: 5.28.15
DS#2: EDD 8.31.18
@lolog531 - I am so sorry about your friend's husband. That must have been awful.
@alinafed - I totally agree about the private group. Granted I have no idea how they work or anything but if it keeps the pesky troll away I'm all for it. I keep worrying things are going to get nasty and some of our people will get banned.
If we can keep the relative anonymity that the bump provides and have a safe troll-free space, I say let's go for it! Really, what's the worst that could happen?
Me: 37 Him: 38
Married 11.07.2015
We also need to fundamentally change how bullying and harassment are dealt with. Most of these incidents come from feelings of being ignored, bullied, or not knowing how to handle change/differences in life styles. Once we can educate people how to better handle their emotions and change or differences in politics/laws/religious believes then we will get better long term results.
Formerly known as Kate08young
August '18 Siggy April Showers:
Married: 7/22/14
Baby L: 8/4/2015 August 2015 Moms
Baby E: 11/18/2016 December 2016 Moms
TTC #3 08/2017 BFP 11/27/2017.
Twin B lost 11/22/2017, Twin A doing well.
However, I will say that a heroine addict will still get their fix. An alcoholic will still drink. But heroine is still illegal and there are laws in place to try and deter people from doing harm to themselves as well as others.
So why not guns? Because it’s written as an amendment and is therefore more of a “rights” issue? What is it, exactly, that gets people so much more riled up about guns than other issues that bring harm and danger?
to clarify, this isn’t pointed at any one person, I’m merely asking questions in general.
This was my flower thing. It was definitely a "thing" at least down here in the south several years ago but I'm not sure I've seen them recently. I liked it but that other one that was posted is ugly. Idgaf if y'all think mine is ugly. I made it and I liked it! LOL.
And while I don't think I could ever wear such a thing, it'd be cute for certain folks who are so inclined and a themed party.