June 2018 Moms

Weekly Questions (2/5)

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  • @doxiemoxie212 Maybe I missed it, but you guys are considering going to CA for the baby's birth?  What prompted that?

    We didn't have AC when DS was born, but he was a September baby.  Over the summer, we had to put a window unit in his room because it would be 80 plus at night.  

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  • @marcus7676 DH and I are both pretty freaked out about the shared recovery room situation here in NYC, and DH really just wants to GTFO of NYC, and I think he feels like this temporary thing is better than having to stay here. I think he's being overly emotional about the decision and we need to weigh the pros/cons, a major one being my/baby's comfort without air conditioning lol. But DH basically keeps saying he's going to be one step away from on-the-brink-of-suicide if we don't move, so also weighing that (though, again, as I've said in other threads, I am skeptical that moving to California will fix this issue for him on its own). 
  • @doxiemoxie212 Makes a ton of sense. FWIW, I have to select my hospital by 28 weeks (I'm debating between the one I delivered at before and one much closer to home).  You should confirm with your doctor about when you have to make that decision.  

    I obviously don't know everything your H is going through.  I was at a big firm in DC and I struggled a lot.  We moved from DC to Boston because I was convinced that I needed / wanted the change and I went from a big firm to a tiny firm.  I also thought it was going to make everything better and that I would love the law again. Spoiler: I still have the same problems, feelings, thoughts as I did in DC.  Moving almost exacerbated some of them because I didn't have a job at first.  Moving across country - away from what you know - even on a temporary basis, with a new baby, will be rough. I have no doubt you'll figure it out, but a new baby may not want to be the time to uproot your life.  I know this is a tough decision.  So many hugs to you and your H as you try to figure this out.
  • @marcus7676 I checked, and the hospital by my mom's doesn't care at all as long as I can get one prenatal appointment in before I deliver (and the OB/midwife practice doesn't care either, oddly enough; there's only one, and it has like 50 doctors, it's crazy). So that would be fine. 

    As for the lawyer thing, it's rough. I completely am on the same page with everything you said, and it's so difficult to get DH to see it. And I've dealt with depression/anxiety in my past, so I also can completely relate to fixating on something that you're convinced will be the "quick fix" solution (not that moving is necessarily quick but it's likely less time consuming than therapy might be), but then it isn't. I certainly think there are some aspects that will be solved if we could move and find the right situation (ie, find a house we could actually afford, like being at, doesn't have a crazy commute) because DH is definitely affected by a lack of sunshine in the winter, and obviously that shifts in CA. But the rest of it? The things that drive him nuts at his job are going to drive him nuts at any job. Like, he FREAKS out if someone emails him on a weekend or at 10pm at night with something that could be handled during "business hours" (haha, as if those exist anymore) - but that's unavoidable! Sometimes people think of things and want to check in while they remember to. He has a near anxiety attack every time his phone buzzes; we live in an email age, what job is he getting where people don't email him? I just don't think it's reasonable for him to think that by moving to CA he's never going to have to work with a crazy conservative partner again or that everyone will magically become better communicators or that his workflow will suddenly be completely predictable. He's not going to have more time for Twitter or videogames or anything else he took for granted while he was in school (and certainly not with a newborn added to the mix, lol). Sure, his firm sucks and he could certainly find a better one, but a lot of what drives him the most insane is just part and parcel of having a job. 
  • llamamama14llamamama14 member
    edited February 2018
    Also, I don't think pregnancy is 10 months. Months aren't 4 weeks long. I just think that I'm due at the end of June and it's the beginning of February now, so I'm between 4-5 months. 
    This is my logic. I conceived on approximately September 30th and I'm due June 23. The amount of time between late September and late June is 9 months. On February 23 I will consider myself 5 months. This is the way we generally mark other events on time. For example, on February 25th Christmas will be 10 months away. (And we will then be 2 months into the 12 month long wait for Christmas.)

    I find that women who've been pregnant understand/ask about weeks but people who haven't been pregnant ask about months. 

    @sunshineandwhiskey I plan to have a tubal and I have the same question for @helenbz about whether her sister's failed... I know this is a small possibility especially after a couple years because your tubes can reopen.
  • I'm trying to find exactly where I read this, but essentially I read that when discussing months pregnant, you actually are using the month that you are currently completing of pregnancy.  In essence then 9 months is weeks 36-40 as you aren't all of a suddenly delivering at 9 months. I too was confused about weeks to months pregnant conversions but I found more sources that use this conversion so I'm settling on it.



  • So is the general consensus third tri starts at 27 weeks? I had 28 in my head. I suppose it varies by source just like 1st to 2nd. Either way, I feel like it’s somewhat close!


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  • @doxiemoxie212 I wish I could give your H a hug.  You are absolutely correct.  My firm has a lower billable hour expectation (1600 versus 2000 I had before). But I still get emails at 10 pm and still have partners to deal with on the weekends.  Most of this stuff could be dealt with during normal business hours. It drives me f'ing crazy that they can't get their stuff together - - just because they make it their emergency does not mean it should be mine.  I thought going to a small firm would make it easier - limit the fake emergencies - but it doesn't, at all.  Not sure if your H is in litigation or corporate, but I think there will always be weekend and nighttime hours. It's just a matter of not letting it get to you and figuring out where you can draw the line (I'm not speaking from experience, because I still haven't been able to do that).  Doesn't your H want to go to a big firm in CA at first? He's going to be trading the known for the unknown - - one of the reasons I'm not switching jobs right now is because I don't want to have to prove myself in a new position with a new baby.  Right now, people trust me.  I won't have that at a new firm and your H won't either.  I feel like I'm being negative on this idea and I don't mean to be, just trying to throw a word of caution out there.  
  • @doxiemoxie212 - DD1 was born July 6th and our AC went out in Sept...was out for +/- 3 weeks and it was MISERABLE.  DD was SO fussy and miserable...she was sweaty all of the time, flushed, living in her diaper only (I was miserable as well).  We went to my parents house 2 hours away for a break from the heat and all I wanted the entire time was to be in my own space (parents were and are MORE than accommodating).  I just wanted to be comfortable, not feel like I was living out of bags, let DD have her own space.  It was horrible.
  • @marcus7676 he's at a v50 firm with a general corporate transactions team (as opposed to something specialized within transactions). He'd like to (hahahaha I laugh as I type this because of how absurd it is that he thinks this will improve his life) move to an M&A specific group at a big firm in CA, ideally jumping to v30 to increase exit options to go in-house. I mean, his firm is actually terrible -- they put him in situations that are ethically questionable, he's regularly the only person working on a deal (like, no partner oversight even) as a third year, they do "unlimited vacation" instead of an alotted amount so no one takes vacation and no one gets coverage, they have a terrible diversity situation from both a race and gender standpoint, and they're extraordinarily stingy (for instance if he works until 9pm or later, he can only bill a cab/dinner back to the firm if he billed six hours that day to the same client which rarely is the case for him). I say that only because there are clearly things that could be improved by switching to nearly any other big law firm, BUT not all, and it would only solve (some) of those problems, not all the others that come with just being a lawyer in general, so you're completely right. The other issue is bonuses -- he's coming off a 250 hour billable January (which was terrible, but not as bad as it could've been; no all nighters), and his firm will pay above market bonuses if you go over 2000 hours (and this year is a big one monetarily). If he switches firms, there's no guarantee that they'll prorate his hours, and if he starts working remotely from CA, there's no guarantee that partners will keep giving him work. But he won't hear it -- he won't hear that it's possible for it to be worse in CA than it is here, and that we should be patient to find the right situation. 
  • @doxiemoxie212 I laugh, because so many of his complaints rang true for me while I was in big law and still ring true now. I've routinely done memos to file to cover my a** due to ethical issues - - when I left big law, HR had me do one about a partner.  I have "unlimited vacation" now which translates to no vacation and forget billing late night cab rides to a client.  But, he is correct, that some of those issues may be solved at another big firm.  But there may be a whole new host of issues to deal with.  

    But I get it - - he's convinced himself that CA will be better and there is nothing that you are going to be able to say or do to make him see differently.  

    Are you willing to pick up and move to CA temporarily (or without him having a job lined up)?  If so, this discussion may be moot.  If not, do you think you could make him see things from your point of view (i.e., new doctor, lack of support network (friends and his family), lack of nearby grocery stores (don't you have 5 within 10 minutes), living in someone else's space, etc. - - whatever means the most to you)?

  • @marcus7676 Lol, this is what I keep telling him. There are so many things it's impossible to understand until you switch jobs. It's why I tell people that I think it's important not to stay at your first job too long, start looking for a better situation sooner than later (even the interview process can be illuminating about what will be the same at this new place vs different). Ugh I wish I could have this conversation with Future DH, who has already switched jobs and understands the limitations of what that can solve, instead of Current DH. Can I just fast forward to when he turns to me and says, "You were right all along"?  :D:D

    I am willing to go out to CA temporarily for him to work remotely, but I don't think it's a good idea. I am more than happy to go to CA for a firm that I legitimately believe will be a better situation. He has said that he will stay in NYC if I don't want to go to CA ("but then I took the CA bar for no reason!" sigh), but I know that when the sleep deprivation hits his misery will shift from "my firm is causing this" to "YOU caused this" unless I can get him to understand why it's not a good idea for us to move right this very moment. I've made a pros/cons list that I think is pretty convincing, but he's so emotional, I'm not sure how persuasive it will be. We shall see tonight.

    Also, FUCK UNLIMITED TIME OFF IT IS THE BIGGEST SCAM OF ALL TIME! Just had to add that. 

    Double also, funny that DC was your nightmare location because if I put the kibosh on CA, he's just going to start pressing for DC again which he is convinced will miraculously cure his depression nearly as well as CA would (ha ha ha ha ha). 
  • Austenista  Austenista member
    edited February 2018
    @doxiemoxie212 my husband is the technical support service manager for a company that works on cash registers and pretty much all grocery equipment inside of the stores they service. He reacts pretty much the same way as your H when he is on-call or his employees need his expertise when they're on call. It's maddening. I can't understand why you're mad that you're receiving calls when...you're on call. "These customers don't care that we have lives or that it's rude to call about something like this after hours/on the weekend..." and on and on. No, they don't care, because they paid for weekend and after hour support in their contracts with you, I'd like to say, but it makes no difference to his overall attitude. The thing is, every time the phone rings, bonus money starts being made for him. He know's he's on call... Hence, I don't get it. But I can commiserate with you, Doxie. 
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  • @Austenista we'll be at the grocery store or something, like 10 minutes from home, having a lovely afternoon, and his phone will buzz. He could wait 10 minutes and look at it at home when he could address any potential issues, but nooooooo he HAS to look at it, and ruin the next 10 minutes. WHY! WHY WHY WHY! Ugh lol. Perspective makes such a huge difference in terms of happiness, but alas, you can lead a horse to water.... etc
  • @doxiemoxie212 saaaame. I can't tell you how many times this has happened. Ruins meals, shopping trips, parties, social gatherings, you name it. That phone goes off, he's sucked in and checked out. 
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  • @doxiemoxie212 how did the conversation last night go? 

    After we moved here, I starting looking back on DC as more idyllic. I think a lot of it is because life was easy in DC - - no real responsibilities (we owned a condo, but very little maintenance), a lot of disposable income, a good group of friends, etc.  NY is notoriously bad for lawyers, so I'm not surprised he thinks other places would be better.  SF and DC aren't going to be too much different if he stays in big firm world though.  

    And yes re unlimited time off. I think I'm going to ask for a set amount of time during the next review season after leave (if I'm still here). Because I dont' operate well like this. 

  • @marcus7676 I..... forgot to have it lol. Bachelor was on, and he was in a good mood so le sigh. But he has a phone interview tonight with a firm in st I really would consider worthwhile to move for (all pro bono hours counted toward billable hours, more liberal environment, better diversity, etc.) so will probably talk it through tonight after we see how that goes. 

    And yes, that’s what I have to remind myself about dc every time I get nostalgic. DH would drive me to work every day and pick me up bc he was in school, all our friends were in school so everyone could hang out all the time, etc etc. So much less responsibility. But no longer! Lol it wouldn’t be the same if we moved back. I do miss the baby ducks at the ponds in the Mall tho. That I do miss. ;)
  • @doxiemoxie212 - can a rule about phones be implemented?  If you're out doing things together/personal time/etc phones are left at home or notifications turned off?  Easier said than done- but if he is receptive to the idea it could help...?...
  • @kmurdock925 I’ve tried that, but his argument is that as a lawyer at a large firm with clients like the ones they have, they’re paying you for your availability, not any knowledge or skill. The expectation is that you’ll cancel plans to do work at any time of day or night regardless of if it’s a funeral or a vacation or whatever. And he’s right, that’s true, he can’t go two hours not looking at his phone, but my point is that he can go ten minutes, and if you know we’ll be home in ten minutes, just wait. Give yourself the extra ten minutes of mental freedom. 
  • @doxiemoxie212 - I figured it was too obvious of a thing to not have come up but ugh frustrating.  Like you said, availability is important....but 10-20 minutes isn't going to change anything...for all they know he is on the phone with another client.  You aren't any good as an employee if you're so mentally drained/overwhelmed/what-have-you from being so engrossed in work...you NEED a break. 
  • @doxiemoxie212 What about this type of wall mounted air conditioners? My husbands family has them in their house in Argentina and they work very well. They are not mounted on a window but the top of the wall. 

    https://www.acwholesalers.com/LG-Air-Conditioners/LSN303HLV-24000-BTU-Wall-Mounted-Heat-Pump-Indoor/82166.ac?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-pbbw5mS2QIVkfhkCh1qiAI6EAkYBCABEgKx1vD_BwE
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  • @dinodna3 I’ll show my mom and see what she thinks. Those might work in at least the bedrooms which is really where it’s most important. 
  • @sunshineandwhiskey I talked to my ob about getting my tubes tied. He said he's more than willing to do it during my csection, if I want to go that route and that my age is not an issue. He said he's going to get me some more detailed info on it, so I can look it over and make a decision.
  • So uhh better late than never but uhh do I need bug spray in Orlando? Our flight is tomorrow at 7am. I figure we prooobably can just get stuff there, but I think I remember only certain ones are pregnancy approved? True/false?
  • @doxiemoxie212 you're good, the CDC says both DEET and picaridin (the most popular ingreds in bug spray) are safe for pregnant women. It's only little babies that they shouldn't be used on. 
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  • catlady1215catlady1215 member
    edited February 2018
    Does anyone feel kicks.. like in their ass? Lol. It's the weirdest feeling. If I'm sitting, it's like he's kicking backwards and I feel it waaaaaay back there. DS only kicked forwards that I remember:D
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  • @doxiemoxie212 It been cooler, so the mosquitos aren’t that bad right now. (Orlando is about 1.5 hours from me, so should be the same there)
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  • @May14th2011 Oh that gives me hope!  I have my appt today, so i'm interested to see what they say.  My current doc is out on maternity leave, so idk how things will go now 
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  • @catlady1215
    YES!!! I know folks talk about "lightning crotch" but I have only had a "kick in the a$$"... My wee one does it from time to time... not pleasant.  
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  • @moonovergoldsboro when I first worded my question, I was really watching how it sounded :D it wasn't coming out right lol
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    I'm just glad I'm not alone over here which these ass kicks! I was like umm well that's not what gas feels like so I'm going to assume these thuds are kicks

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  • @catlady1215 I *think* I'm having that too. I have what I believe to be cervix kicks, then sometimes they morph into my butt area. It feels like these weird pressures/pains. However, I'm still trying to figure out what are kicks and what is just my uterus stretching/gas/other weird non-descript pains. 
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  • @doxiemoxie212 I'll be honest, most of the lawyer talk goes right above my head, but the struggles you're having with YH sound so similar to mine it's almost eerie. Best of luck trying to come to a decision that works for both of you. I definitely have the bad habit of putting my needs second to do whatever MH thinks will make him feel better, it's why we've lived so many different places. As for the AC problem, I will say I lived through many a CA summer without ac and it hasn't been so bad, but then again I didn't have a newborn. I have also always lived close enough to the ocean to get the cool breezes, so idk if that's something you'd get at your mom's house. 

    Random question today though. Where are you guys looking for nursery furniture? I want it to be pretty good quality but still affordable. I'm the type of person who buys all my stuff from Ikea or Target, but feel like I should maybe step it up a little. 
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  • @amphibious22 with DS, we ordered when I was close to 30wks. took a couple weeks to come in, then DH set it up within days. We found a good graco crib/changing table set from walmart. I never really do walmart but was surprised they sold a lot of the same stuff as babies r us, but had combo packages I didn't see at BRU.
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  • @Amphibious22
    We have an IKEA crib for DD and will be using it for DS when he arrives.  It does 2 levels, and converts to a toddler bed. https://www.ikea.com/ca/en/catalog/products/80248525/

    I can honestly say as a STM, I love their products. Their plates, bowls, hooded towels, sippy cups (my fave), mattress covers, bibs, mattress, sheets. They are good value. If you love it get it. 

    I had another mom tell me that the one thing she regretted spending a ton of money on, was the nursery furniture. No one really sees it, both her littles chewed the expensive convertible cribs, and by the time they wanted to be in a big bed, she wanted a different style. 
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  • @Amphibious22 I got DD's crib from Amazon. It's a DaVinci brand one that we're using for DS. DD never chewed on her crib though so it's in great shape. We put it up already because DH was eager to check stuff off of our baby to do list. I bought DD's crib somewhere between 25 and 30 weeks.
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  • @Amphibious22 we ordered a crib from walmart for DD and 5 years and 6 moves later (4 different states) it's still strong and in decent shape. We will be ordering a new mattress because that one is beat up, but the actual crib is great.
  • @Amphibious22 - We ordered DS1's nursery set from Buy Buy Baby.  We gathered enough 20% off coupons that we got 20% off the entire set, plus our dresser was the floor model so it was reduced even more.  Overall we spent maybe $1200 and the set will grow with him (crib will become a full bed), the changing table is the bottom part of a hutch that has a bookcase on top, and matching dresser.

    With DS2 we ordered a much less expensive (but still convertible) crib from Kmart.  We used the same changing table we had used for DS1, and we bought a cheap dresser.  He'll get matching furniture down the road.

    This time around we're only buying a new crib mattress.  This kid will get DS1's crib while DS2's crib is going to my parents for when they watch him (they were using a friend's crib before, but have since returned it).  We'll use the same changing table (the top of the hutch is still being used as a bookcase on the floor in DS1's room.

    So I guess we're getting more economical each kid.  LOL

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  • Austenista  Austenista member
    edited February 2018
    We have a DaVinci crib and it has been well gnawed. We actually just replaced his second hand crib with that DaVinci about two months ago. The one I bought off Amazon definitely scratches easily and it looks like he's been biding his time in prison on the top. I need to get a wood pen and color them in and then put something over it so he can't do that. 

    ETA: Don’t mind the drool he just woke up from a nap. 


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