Ok, I actually have one again today. Related to my GTKY a few weeks ago.....After watching the A&E documentary/mini-series on the Scott Peterson trial, I don't think he did it. I know, I know. Every fiber of my being and instincts screams he's guilty, but even if he is (which I honestly don't think he is) I REALLY don't think the Prosecution proved beyond a reasonable doubt that he is, and at the very least, I think he deserves another trial with a more fair judge/jury with all of the evidence being presented and not just parts of it.
Me, 35 Hubs, 32 Married June 2012 BFP June 2013- blighted ovum, D&C Aug 2013 BFP Oct 2013- twins! A&H born May 2014 BFP Aug 2017- EDD 5/8/17
I thought of my UO because of all the posts about awful inlaws (I feel for you all, that blows).
I LOVE my inlaws. My MIL is one of my best friends (so is my own mom). She is not like what it seems a typical MIL would be. She does not pressure us on any decisions, even if I know she disagrees with them. For example when we bought our home she thought it was too much of a fixer upper and clearly didn’t love it. But we basically told her we were buying it anyways. She has been nothing but supportive and has helped us on every project. She now brags to other people about how cute and wonderful our house is (even though we have yet to fix about half of what needs done).
This isn’t really controversial, I just wanted to let you all know that some inlaws don’t suck hahahah
I give money to the panhandlers on the corner even if I think they are going to get booze with it. I figure if you look like shit, are missing teeth, and standing outside in the freezing cold your like is pretty far from turning around. If I have a few bucks to share, it's yours because if I was in that situation I would hope someone in a big SUV buying xmas presents and then stopping at WHole FOods would do the same for me.
I weirdly am not a fan of 90% of baby girl clothes out there. I don't want hot pink and flowers and glitter on freaking everything. The one thing everyone says when I say it is a girl is about the clothes. Nope. More excited to put her in her brother's older sleepers.
@cups4 We do most of our shopping in the boys section for our future daughter just because I LOVE gray. ANything with tulle is absolutely out. How do you write that noicely in your baby shower invite lol!
@ivyvines6 I'm having a lot of feelings about this lately and if/when we move to FB I'll feel more comfortable discussing it. But every choice is yours to make when it comes to the health and safety and well being of your child, even this.
@cups4 completely agree on girl's clothes. Even a plain white girl's onesie will have a scalloped hem... why do we need that?! And I am always surprised at how many shirts have poofy, frilly shoulders. My baby doesn't need to look like she's wearing shoulder pads! I don't get it
@ivyvines6 - I completely agree. My parents are very involved and I love them for it, but if something came up I would cut them out. I have seen grandparents refuse to use the proper car seat etc.. I don't play that game.
@cups4 - I buy a lot of clothes in the boys section for my 2yo. She love dinosaurs and dragons... plus for some reason all the gender neutral stuff is in the boy section.
Completely agree with girl clothes. I've been having a hard time finding anything I like when I look. We even considered for a bit to keep the sex a secret just to keep from being bombarded with pink frills.
I’m still mad I can find matching mother son outfits and that’s like the only reason I’m jonesing for a girl tbh. MH hates it when I put J in LLR leggings, but it’s like the only thing I can find consistently that actually matches! Besides, he loves his Donald Duck pants
Is this a UO? I'm so tired of people asking me if I'm excited when I tell them I'm having a girl. Do you expect me to say no? Next time I'm going to say that since it's a girl we're putting it up for adoption and will be trying again. (Obviously bitchy sarcasm. I'm a bit harsh when I'm crabby)
@charlestonchew same except reverse. I’m so sick of people asking my H if he’s just so “nervous” or “or “panicked” about having a girl/daughter to worry about.
He usually just says “not any more nervous than I would be if she were a boy” and leaves it at that.
My UO is that I think it’s rude to comment in any way on a pregnant woman’s body. I feel like people think it gives them permission. MIL comments on how I “look pregnant” or my belly is getting bigger. No shit. I know that, but thanks for making me even more self conscious than I already am. Basically, the only person I don’t mind saying anything is DS because I explained to him that mommy’s tummy will get bigger when the baby grows. He puts his hands on my belly and says “it’s getting bigger. The baby is growing.”
We had 3 girls in a row, then a boy. Oh my goodness the comments were so annoying. People would say right in front of our daughters “oh your husband must be so happy to finally have a boy!” DH was awesome about it though. He would say things like “I couldn’t possibly love anything more than my girls”
@gildah, i have a friend from France who has 6 daughters. He tells people get loves too surround himself with beautiful French women.
We're also getting lots of people going for a boy on our behalf. We are having a boy but not telling people. We honestly had no preference before deciding to have another. If we did have one, we'd adopt.
As for grandparents, I don't know that cutting them out is a great plan, especially for things like car seat. There are certainly ways around that. Ultimately, you also have your just to answer/explain things to. I've seen people cut out different family members and they kids don't see the whole picture. They feel rejected by the people who don't see them or blame the people who don't allow the visiting. It's just not black and white to me. It definitely depends on the reasons as well.
My ILs are basically satisfied with their other granddaughter. FIL has never made a single attempt with my kids. MIL sometimes does. We just don't push it. If they want to have a relationship, they can do something about it. They always give the girls nice presents but wouldn't drive 2 blocks out of their way when we had a lemonade stand.
I get irrationally upset by people commenting on how big my belly is when I’m pregnant. I am woefully obsessive about my weight and have always been super thin. When I’m pregnant, I have zero control over my weight gain and I find it so upsetting. I don’t need to be reminded!!!!
I will say, my English family says lovely things about pregnant women. Instead of “you’ve popped!” They say “ you’re blooming” I like thinking of myself as a flower and not a bag of microwave popcorn haha!
Is this a UO? I'm so tired of people asking me if I'm excited when I tell them I'm having a girl. Do you expect me to say no? Next time I'm going to say that since it's a girl we're putting it up for adoption and will be trying again. (Obviously bitchy sarcasm. I'm a bit harsh when I'm crabby)
Lol!!! I have the same problem. I just tell them I'd be excited either way and they tend to back off but I agree it is really rude
@nanifrog I have a rocky relationship with my parents. They were abusive with me and my younger siblings. (Think like Billy’s dad in Stranger things) They are also what I call psychotically Christian, and we are not raising our children that way. Basically I have no problem cutting them out if they step out of line in any of those things. My in laws are amazing though, and have a wonderful respect for boundaries and parenting decisions.
I agree on most of the girls clothing. I prefer not to have loud graphics on any clothing. Burt’s bees has some cute neutral options.
I was reminded of my UO reading another thread, so hopefully no one thinks I’m singling them out. Mine is that if you know you aren’t coming back to work at all, you should not take a “maternity leave” just to get several more weeks of pay. I think it gives women in the work place a bad name.
If if you are planning to leave work, do that. We have had a few attorneys do this recently and leave huge messes to be cleaned up after they took 12 weeks off and never came back. Upon getting more info, it became pretty clear that they were never planning to return.
HATE girl clothes. Part of the reason why we are team green. I don't want people to even be tempted to buy us frilly shit (although if we do have a girl, nothing will stop them from buying it after the baby is born. But, yeah. People say to me "if you dont know the sex how will you buy baby clothes?!" ummmmm even if we knew, I'd still register for/buy all the same clothes.
HATE people commenting on my pregnant body. Even the nurse this week at drs was like "oh you have a little belly (as I am sitting down and my fat rolls bunch up). My aunt constantly comments during my pregnancy about how much weight I lost and says "you are the thinnest you have ever been"....um no lady...not ever. I even overheard her telling a stranger at tasting at our family's winery "oh yeah. two of my nieces are pregnant. The one over there *points to me* is so teeny tiny and the other one looks huge!" ummm wtf. Although, I am just barely starting to show (but only in tight clothes or obviously naked) and this morning my husband commented on my belly, but he said it in a really sweet/admiring/loving way. So only he is allowed to comment- and he can only tell me how great I look! hahah
HATE the idea that pregnant women should have a super close relationship with their parents (especially their mom). Sorry, I love my mom, but I don't want her anywhere near the hospital when I am giving birth and I definitely don't want her driving baby around unless its an emergency. I may change my mind later on....but, honestly out of all of our parents (in laws included) my dad is the only decent driver, so it's easier for us to just say "no one drives the baby unless absolutely necessary"...did I mention I am a control freak and I am sure motherhood will test those limits for me hahah
@attorneyworkproduct I get where you are coming from, but I really have no problem with people never coming back after maternity leave. I mean....they are entitled to that pay and leave.I plan on coming back to work, but why should we expect women to quit before maternity leave and forgo weeks to months of pay that they are entitled to? My firm has 4.5 months of fully paid maternity leave....that's a lot of money. I would never expect anyone to pass that up for the sake of quitting before maternity leave rather than after. I mean....the effect is still the same...you lost an employee/team member. The only difference is that they get less money if they quit before.
@attorneyworkproduct that is obviously directed at me so I suppose I'll respond. Maternity Leave is the time you get to adjust to your new life with your new baby. Whether it's your first or your tenth kid, you have no idea how you'll feel about wanting to SAH or go back to work until the time comes. So even though I plan on staying home after leave, I may end up hating being home with two kids and decide to go back to work. I'm not going to make a life altering decision like this until I have to. With my first, I wasn't planning on going back to work but then things changed with my husband's job while I was on leave and we would've been completely screwed had I left work before leave started.
I have no issue with women taking maternity leave and then quitting. She should take what she’s entitled to. What I think is weird is that DH has a lot of paternity leave, but he never actually uses it, and none of the other dads at his office do either.
@fraufarbissina, your question did make me think about it. I can understand your reasons to want to keep the option open in case things change emotionally or financially while you’re on leave. Hearing your thoughts, I can totally understand his perspective.
I agree that you have no idea how you will feel, how baby will adjust, etc. once you are actually staring down the prospect of returning to work. I plan to go back to work this time, but I recognize that I may get there and say a big NO to that (although personally, I think I would at least give it a try for a while).
I guess my (unpopular) opinion is for the person who is 100% sure that they are done with the job, but explicitly lies to coworkers to say that they are coming back, simply because they want the paid leave. In my office we all have extremely heavy case loads and I would rather get the open position filled before they leave, than have a few people covering for someone for three months + several more weeks to get the position filled.
I also think that most maternity leaves are pathetic and to expect women to come back full time after just a few weeks/months is ridiculous. So, maybe employer’s deserve to be taken advantage of.
I plan on leaving after maternity leave but to another job. I hate my job and the lack of support I get but I don't think trying to find another right now is the best thing for me. I honestly will feel bad for coworkers that get my cases because of work load but I give no fucks about the management and how they might be affected.
I get what you're saying and I get it that it does put the burden on everyone else but they are going to have to live without you for a few weeks so they should be able to carry on without you permanently.
As far as lying to everyone about coming back, we have no choice but to lie about it. As someone mentioned in the other thread, if you tell HR or your manager that you plan on leaving, they can use that against you. I wish I could be open about my plans, especially so my boss could plan accordingly, but it's not possible.
@fraufarbissina The truth is that your company ultimately doesn’t give a rats ass about you and you only have one life, so do what’s best for you. Just my opinion of course.
My UO - it really bothers me when people are genuinely upset about their child’s sex. I mean, I can understand wanting one sex and if it ends up being the other having a little disappointment, but to be seriously upset about it really gets under my skin. Think of all of the women who received poor news at their scans and you’re traumatized about what is between your kids legs? To me it’s taking such a wonderful gift for granted.
@Ceridwen77 I agree and honestly people who are upset are really upset about the gender roles and who says your daughter can't play sports or your son can't enjoy cooking? DH had a small disappointment because he said he felt he couldn't relate as well to a girl but he got over that really fast and now he says "my girls" all the time when talking about me and our future daughter.
My UO - it really bothers me when people are genuinely upset about their child’s sex. I mean, I can understand wanting one sex and if it ends up being the other having a little disappointment, but to be seriously upset about it really gets under my skin. Think of all of the women who received poor news at their scans and you’re traumatized about what is between your kids legs? To me it’s taking such a wonderful gift for granted.
I understand where you’re coming from, but you can’t help how you feel about something. I’ve said it before but I had a huge horrible reaction when we found out J was a boy. I immediately started crying during the anatomy scan, and every person in my life chastised me and made me feel like shit about it. It didn’t change how I felt, it just made me hate everyone. I’d never imagined being a “boy mom” (whatever that means now) and had developed this idea that J was a girl as a coping mechanism for how horribly I pregnant. I’ve personally matured since then and I couldn’t picture our life being any different than it is right now with my darling baby boy. I’m way less invested in something that’s not that important this round
I think that’s the only drawback to finding out the sex while you’re pregnant. Personally, I don’t feel super bonded to my babies before theyre born, so I can see how the sex could be super disappointing when you’re pregnant. But yeah, I don’t understand why people get so hung up on the sex. One thing I love about having three girls in a row is that their personalities are so incredibly different. It’s easy to see because we don’t assume their quirks are because they are girls or boys. I have a friend who is adopting because she really wants a daughter. I have no issue with adopting a specific sex, but I feel uncomfortable with only doing it because you want a girl. Adopt because you feel called to adopt. I guess I don’t like the idea of objectifying children. They aren’t toys to bring us joy, they are human beings who should be loved for who they are.
@ivyvines6 i have never seen stranger things so i don't really get the reference. It sounds like they weren't great parents to you though, beyond the religion part (which is, to me, not something that should be a deal breaker and part of another discussion). As i said, i don't think it's black and white.
I'm curious for those who put their girls in boy clothes: would you put a boy in girl clothes?
I'm planning to use maternity leave to look for a new job. I'm not sharing this with anyone at work. @gildah is right.. My company doesn't care about me. In a cog in a machine and can be easily replaced. Yes, it will sick for my co-workers for a few weeks, but I've done my share of covering for others and gotten pretty screwed. It's part of employment.
Re: UO 12/21
Married June 2012
BFP June 2013- blighted ovum, D&C Aug 2013
BFP Oct 2013- twins! A&H born May 2014
BFP Aug 2017- EDD 5/8/17
I LOVE my inlaws. My MIL is one of my best friends (so is my own mom). She is not like what it seems a typical MIL would be. She does not pressure us on any decisions, even if I know she disagrees with them. For example when we bought our home she thought it was too much of a fixer upper and clearly didn’t love it. But we basically told her we were buying it anyways. She has been nothing but supportive and has helped us on every project. She now brags to other people about how cute and wonderful our house is (even though we have yet to fix about half of what needs done).
This isn’t really controversial, I just wanted to let you all know that some inlaws don’t suck hahahah
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@cups4 - I buy a lot of clothes in the boys section for my 2yo. She love dinosaurs and dragons... plus for some reason all the gender neutral stuff is in the boy section.
He usually just says “not any more nervous than I would be if she were a boy” and leaves it at that.
DH was awesome about it though. He would say things like “I couldn’t possibly love anything more than my girls”
We're also getting lots of people going for a boy on our behalf. We are having a boy but not telling people. We honestly had no preference before deciding to have another. If we did have one, we'd adopt.
As for grandparents, I don't know that cutting them out is a great plan, especially for things like car seat. There are certainly ways around that. Ultimately, you also have your just to answer/explain things to. I've seen people cut out different family members and they kids don't see the whole picture. They feel rejected by the people who don't see them or blame the people who don't allow the visiting. It's just not black and white to me. It definitely depends on the reasons as well.
My ILs are basically satisfied with their other granddaughter. FIL has never made a single attempt with my kids. MIL sometimes does. We just don't push it. If they want to have a relationship, they can do something about it. They always give the girls nice presents but wouldn't drive 2 blocks out of their way when we had a lemonade stand.
weight gain and I find it so upsetting. I don’t need to be reminded!!!!
I will say, my English family says lovely things about pregnant women. Instead of “you’ve popped!” They say “ you’re blooming” I like thinking of myself as a flower and not a bag of microwave popcorn haha!
I was reminded of my UO reading another thread, so hopefully no one thinks I’m singling them out. Mine is that if you know you aren’t coming back to work at all, you should not take a “maternity leave” just to get several more weeks of pay. I think it gives women in the work place a bad name.
If if you are planning to leave work, do that. We have had a few attorneys do this recently and leave huge messes to be cleaned up after they took 12 weeks off and never came back. Upon getting more info, it became pretty clear that they were never planning to return.
HATE girl clothes. Part of the reason why we are team green. I don't want people to even be tempted to buy us frilly shit (although if we do have a girl, nothing will stop them from buying it after the baby is born. But, yeah. People say to me "if you dont know the sex how will you buy baby clothes?!" ummmmm even if we knew, I'd still register for/buy all the same clothes.
HATE people commenting on my pregnant body. Even the nurse this week at drs was like "oh you have a little belly (as I am sitting down and my fat rolls bunch up). My aunt constantly comments during my pregnancy about how much weight I lost and says "you are the thinnest you have ever been"....um no lady...not ever. I even overheard her telling a stranger at tasting at our family's winery "oh yeah. two of my nieces are pregnant. The one over there *points to me* is so teeny tiny and the other one looks huge!" ummm wtf. Although, I am just barely starting to show (but only in tight clothes or obviously naked) and this morning my husband commented on my belly, but he said it in a really sweet/admiring/loving way. So only he is allowed to comment- and he can only tell me how great I look! hahah
HATE the idea that pregnant women should have a super close relationship with their parents (especially their mom). Sorry, I love my mom, but I don't want her anywhere near the hospital when I am giving birth and I definitely don't want her driving baby around unless its an emergency. I may change my mind later on....but, honestly out of all of our parents (in laws included) my dad is the only decent driver, so it's easier for us to just say "no one drives the baby unless absolutely necessary"...did I mention I am a control freak and I am sure motherhood will test those limits for me hahah
@attorneyworkproduct I get where you are coming from, but I really have no problem with people never coming back after maternity leave. I mean....they are entitled to that pay and leave.I plan on coming back to work, but why should we expect women to quit before maternity leave and forgo weeks to months of pay that they are entitled to? My firm has 4.5 months of fully paid maternity leave....that's a lot of money. I would never expect anyone to pass that up for the sake of quitting before maternity leave rather than after. I mean....the effect is still the same...you lost an employee/team member. The only difference is that they get less money if they quit before.
I agree that you have no idea how you will feel, how baby will adjust, etc. once you are actually staring down the prospect of returning to work. I plan to go back to work this time, but I recognize that I may get there and say a big NO to that (although personally, I think I would at least give it a try for a while).
I guess my (unpopular) opinion is for the person who is 100% sure that they are done with the job, but explicitly lies to coworkers to say that they are coming back, simply because they want the paid leave. In my office we all have extremely heavy case loads and I would rather get the open position filled before they leave, than have a few people covering for someone for three months + several more weeks to get the position filled.
As far as lying to everyone about coming back, we have no choice but to lie about it. As someone mentioned in the other thread, if you tell HR or your manager that you plan on leaving, they can use that against you. I wish I could be open about my plans, especially so my boss could plan accordingly, but it's not possible.
I have a friend who is adopting because she really wants a daughter. I have no issue with adopting a specific sex, but I feel uncomfortable with only doing it because you want a girl. Adopt because you feel called to adopt. I guess I don’t like the idea of objectifying children. They aren’t toys to bring us joy, they are human beings who should be loved for who they are.
I'm curious for those who put their girls in boy clothes: would you put a boy in girl clothes?
I'm planning to use maternity leave to look for a new job. I'm not sharing this with anyone at work. @gildah is right.. My company doesn't care about me. In a cog in a machine and can be easily replaced. Yes, it will sick for my co-workers for a few weeks, but I've done my share of covering for others and gotten pretty screwed. It's part of employment.