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PGAL Check In ((13 December))

mdfarmchickmdfarmchick member
in March 2018 Moms
Sorry this is late!

This is a safe space for those who are pregnant after a loss. General TW for this thread.


How far along are you?

Any appointments coming up?

How are you doing? (Dear diary posts and venting are welcome and encouraged here)

GTKY: How are you celebrating the holidays?


Also, PSA, some of us have moved to the Facebook group and would love for you to join us on the check in there. Feel free to discuss here and hopefully we will see you on Facebook soon. 
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Re: PGAL Check In ((13 December))

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  • ashtuesdayashtuesday member
    @justkeeptrying - I've been doing the daily essentials video, which is about 30 minutes of super gentle stretching. I tried to go through what was actually written out on the site, but I found that to be overwhelming myself. After Christmas, I'm going to add in the prenatal yoga sequence video.  You can get those two videos plus a daily motion video (which is basically how to do normal things comfortably while pregnant) for like $16 on Vimeo.
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  • justkeeptryingjustkeeptrying member
    @ashtuesday, thanks! I'll have to check those out! I hadn't seen a video when I went on last time, but I need to peruse the site some more.
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  • mdfarmchickmdfarmchick member
    @senora76 I completely understand but hope you will be able to join us eventually. I plan on checking both for a while. 

    @justkeeptrying I do the activities listed on the daily part of the site. It’s easy for me to just knock out different stretches at different times throughout the day. I noticed a difference just from my first day too @ashtuesday. 

    @chasingroygbiv you still have plenty of time! And remember, babies don’t need much so I’m sure you’ll be fine. 
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  • mdfarmchickmdfarmchick member
    @bb3vj3n well at least you know and it won’t be a surprise? 
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  • senora76senora76 member
    @bb3vj3n I've been teetering the c-section line myself... first with the placenta previa (which moved up but is still low lying and "transverse") and now my baby went from head down at the level II ultrasound to feet first breech.  I am scared to get a c-section, but more scared of losing Nova so I'll do whatever they suggest... If we had never lost Mars I know I'd be one of the moms doing everything in my power to avoid a c-section... including going for a vag birth with a breech... but I don't want to go a road with ANY risks...in fact I am debating on not doing the external version if it comes to that because of the risks involved.  Is this your first c-section? How close is your placenta to your cervix?  I need to ask the MFM when I see him again in 6 weeks how far mine is... curious what the protocols are. I know mine is very close.

    To those moms who have had c-sections, when can you hold your baby skin to skin?  I get even with vaginal births there could be complications that do not allow immediate contact, like when I had Vance 5 weeks early they whisked him away so fast I didn't even get to see what he looked like. I know this is a small detail when all I really want is a healthy baby... but I am curious what its really like to go through a c-section.


    Mama to:
    Zane William 9/17/03
    Vance Xenophon 5/17/06
    Mars Florencio 11/15/16 - 3/6/17
    Nova Marsela 3/14/18
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  • mdfarmchickmdfarmchick member
    @BrittnieMariee just check out the Facebook post on here and PM one of the mods @becausescience @heatherdubrow @bettyvonsomethingstein

    @senora76 I haven’t had a C section, so I can’t help you there but remember that a c section is also a risk. I’d compare the risks between the the options and pick the one with the least amount of risk. Also, I know you mainly stick here, but you might get more experience if you post this in the questions thread? Just a suggestion for both. Nova has plenty of time to turn still!
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  • ashtuesdayashtuesday member
    @senora76 - I'm a FTM, but at the orientation at my hospital, they said they will make every effort to start skin-to-skin immediately, even following a C-section. So it might vary based on where you're delivering?
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  • chasingroygbivchasingroygbiv member
    I had my u/s today to check baby’s growth and bones and they saw hair!  <3 DS only had peach fuzz, but DD had a head FULL! Wondering how much this baby will have. Also discovered why I’m feeling such a weird sensation down low, baby is laying so strange. Head down, but chest/bum to one side and legs up in my ribs on the other side. 
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  • senora76senora76 member
    @mdfarmchick Thanks for the tip - I have such social anxiety since losing Mars, I don't even feel comforable posting in any other place but this PGAL board!  I'm in a lot of therapy for this right now... and its really a shame because I really loved the person I was before I lost him. I was a social butterfly, team soccer mom, involved at the kids schools, etc... I know there isn't a huge population here but I take comfort that you'll be gentle with me <3

    @chasingroygbiv that's amazing!!!  My first two boys had so much hair also!  Mars had less, but what he had was unquestionably red :) We have our ultrasound boutique re-do scheduled tomorrow since Nova has not been cooperative... Hope we get as good of a look as you got...!
    Mama to:
    Zane William 9/17/03
    Vance Xenophon 5/17/06
    Mars Florencio 11/15/16 - 3/6/17
    Nova Marsela 3/14/18
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  • mdfarmchickmdfarmchick member
    @senora76, do you want me to ask some of your questions and let you know what they say? I wish I could be more of a help but I have no experience with c sections. I can also ask in my BMB from DS if that would help. I know a bunch of the ladies there had to have c sections. <3
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  • BrittnieMarieeBrittnieMariee member
    @senora76 I had a cesarean with my first. I was actually put under which changed the whole scenario. DH wasn’t allowed in the room and I had to be in recovery for an hour, so DS was about 2 hours old before I even got to see or hear him. They had already fed him formula, even though they knew I wanted to breastfeed. My experience was not great. I actually stopped breathing on the table and only found out because DH told me about it later on. I know other people have way better experiences. But most of this is why I’m hoping to have a VBAC this time, but if my doctor does recommend a RCS then I will listen to their advice. So far everyone is being supportive. 
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  • bb3vj3nbb3vj3n member
    @senora76 currently my placenta is only 0.1 or 0.2 mm from my cervix and they said an absolute 2cm clearance is the inky way they would consider allowing me to have Lily vaginally. I go back for one more internal ultrasound for exact measurements at around 35-36 weeks.  it could still clear... but they are not optimistic.  To add to it, she is also breech and has been since day 1. now this actually could still change... but it just add to their conclusion to do a Csec for now. 

    MY OB insists this is the safest way to proceed given the current circumstances.  He says we can always cancel if my placenta clears later on
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  • senora76senora76 member
    @mdfarmchick thanks- i just mainly wanted to hear about the skin to skin contact- but I will talk to my dr on Monday... I know every hospital and every dr and every birth is different... I’m really hoping i dont need one!  

    @BrittnieMariee Thank you for sharing your scary story!  That is exactly what Im scared of, but I’m glad you are okay! 
    I hope you get your VBAC!

    Happy Friday everyone :)

    Mama to:
    Zane William 9/17/03
    Vance Xenophon 5/17/06
    Mars Florencio 11/15/16 - 3/6/17
    Nova Marsela 3/14/18
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  • BrittnieMarieeBrittnieMariee member
    @senora76 it was fairly traumatic. I honestly don’t even remember most of our stay in the hospital. It’s just a blur. However, I am lucky that DS was perfectly healthy and we were able to go home after 2 days. Most people I know that had a cesarean had MUCH better experiences with no complications. If I do end up with a RCS then I hope it’s much easier on me! Thank you! I’m reallyyy hoping my VBAC pans out lol
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  • leilaquinnleilaquinn member
    How far along are you?

    28 weeks 6 days

    Any appointments coming up?

    I have been in the hospital since yesterday at 1, came in due to very high at Home blood pressure readings and vision disturbances.

    How are you doing? (Dear diary posts and venting are welcome and encouraged here)

    It’s been a rough couple of days, in the hospital, maybe preeclampsia or just very out of control gestational hypertension, I had some protein in my urine but not quite a conclusive amount. I am hoping I get to go home tonight, but yesterday they were talking about delivery this week which was really scary. I did get steroid shots to get his lungs a bit more ready if things go south again, but for the moment my blood pressure is fairly controlled on a whole lot of drugs.

    GTKY: How are you celebrating the holidays?

    as quietly and calmly as possible, with loooooooow blood pressure numbers! My husband is the youngest of 5 and the only boy. He and his oldest sister do not at all get along, when their dad died they agreed to be civil at holidays for their mom, but I don’t handle conflict well and the tension is so unpleasant for me. We will go there for Christmas Eve dinner and Christmas morning, but I have to be selfish this year and say it’s time to go when I need to. Then we will go to my mom’s which should be relaxing and not as likely to turn into a real housewives of New Jersey table flipping episode. (That has not happened at my husband’s family dinners that I know of, but there has been yelling that included Italian curse words I don’t understand !)
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  • senora76senora76 member
    @BrittnieMariee All births are different ao I have faith you can have your VBAC or at the very least a gentle c/s. I had a traumatic vag birth with my second plus he was preterm, and had all sorts of issues... the epidural administered by a student didnt work, I had cholestasis and was at a teaching hospital so delivered screaming and crying (me not the baby) in a room with about 25 students taking notes- i thought i could nurse him
    right away like my oldest so i had my boob ready and reached out to hold him and he was blue with bubbles in his mouth and they ran away with him... and i was left alone as everyone ran off with the baby- my ex-DH called me a few min later saying something about formula and i was like i want to nurse him- dont give him a bottle- he said - im not asking you I’m telling you hes in shock, getting formula and its not thru a bottle he has a tube down his throat... I was expecting a calm birth just like my first but it was totally different... I had to leave the hospital without him - he had a rough start but all things considered - it doesnt even matter now- healthy baby is all that matters... I am happy to say my birth with Mars was absolutely beautiful- hardest and longest but proof that all babies write their own stories :)

    @leilaquinn omg how scary... I am glad you are getting the steroids- I hope your health holds out for several more weeks so you can keep baking that baby!!! 
    Mama to:
    Zane William 9/17/03
    Vance Xenophon 5/17/06
    Mars Florencio 11/15/16 - 3/6/17
    Nova Marsela 3/14/18
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  • ashtuesdayashtuesday member
    @leilaquinn - I'm so sorry to hear about what you're going through!  I hope you're out of the hospital and feeling good soon.
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  • BrittnieMarieeBrittnieMariee member
    @senora76 that is so true that each birth is a totally different experience!! I hope we all have good birth experiences this go around. I didn’t get to breastfeed DS for a while and we didn’t even make it very long. Hoping things go way better with Emma! I definitely learned a lot from DS! He had the most beautiful latch too  :'(

    @leilaquinn so sorry to hear you’ve had such a scare!! I saw your comments on another thread. Hope everything continues to improve!!
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  • senora76senora76 member
    @BrittnieMariee worth noting- Although Vance had a rough start, had formula tube fed, followed by having to learn how to eat on a bottle before breast, he had a very successful breastfeeding rub - I never had to give him formula and he nursed until he was 3!  years old!  His traumatic birth was harder on me than it was on him.
    Mama to:
    Zane William 9/17/03
    Vance Xenophon 5/17/06
    Mars Florencio 11/15/16 - 3/6/17
    Nova Marsela 3/14/18
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  • BrittnieMarieeBrittnieMariee member
    @senora76 that is so reassuring!! With my son we got sent back to the hospital when he was 6 days old due to jaundice. When we arrived the doctors told me I had to stop bfing and pump. I think that was the beginning of the end for us. I had no idea what my rights were as a parent and I was so clueless about bfing anyway since no one in my family had done it before. I’ve learned so much since then!!
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  • senora76senora76 member
    @BrittnieMariee yep- its all pretty much live and learn with this parenting thing haha... 
    Mama to:
    Zane William 9/17/03
    Vance Xenophon 5/17/06
    Mars Florencio 11/15/16 - 3/6/17
    Nova Marsela 3/14/18
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  • BrittnieMarieeBrittnieMariee member
    @senora76 you are completely right there!! Poor first borns lol
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  • minteamintea member
    How far along are you? 25+1

    Any appointments coming up? Jan 2

    How are you doing? Pretty bleh. PGAL stress is a lot better but I am having a really, really hard time finding the motivation to stay on top of my GD. I am also starting a new job soon that I am theoretically super excited about but just feel so wiped out and pregnant that I am really stressed I won't make a good impression.

    GTKY: How are you celebrating the holidays? My parents' house for the weekend

    DD #1: 2012; MMC: 2014; DD #2: 2015; It's a boy! 3/31/2018

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