Alright ladies!
We are all pregnant, and all these babies all have to come out one way or another sooner than some of us may be ready to accept.
So! Let’s talk birth, shall we? The topics of different kinds of birth, different intervention options, types of care providers, etc have come up a handful of times in different threads around the board. So I figured it would be good to have a dedicated thread for people to start asking questions, getting answers and flushing out ideas and opinions so we can all better help each other learn about all the differences in birth so some can make informed decisions on how they *wish* to birth.
Hospital birth? Birth center? Home birth? Unassisted? Natural? Epidural? VBAC? Repeat Cesarean? Hypnobirthing? Bradley Method? OBGYN? Medical practice Midwife? Independent midwife? With so many options out there, it can be a bit overwhelming to try and figure out what you *hope* your birth to be. So let’s chat and see if we can help each other come up with some answers for ourselves
*I use the words wish and hope since birth is inherently unpredictable and the end result may not be what we had initially hoped for. But being prepared and knowing what you want and how to advocate for it will help *most* of us achieve the best birth for ourselves.
Fire away ladies!
Re: Birth Plans ~ Where to start
First child was induced and had an epidural. All was fine until the epidural wore off. Still, it was fine.
Second, also induced and the epidural made my heart rate drop dangerously low and they had to give me something to bring it back up.
Third, went into labor naturally. I tried to hold off and not get an epidural but I was in so much pain by the time we go to the hospital, that I changed my mind and got the epidural. Regretted it instantly. It pushed all the pain to my tail bone and made my heart rate jump into the 160s. My heart rate didn't drop until they took the epidural out.
So this time, I really want to stick with the no epidural thing. But I'm really scared.
Has anyone gone without an epidural and what are the best positions you've tried to keep the pressure off of your back?
idk, I have so much respect and admiration for women who can go completely drug free. I would love to try for that this time again.. but if my labor is anything like last time (36+ hours) I'll be requesting the drugs a lot sooner. I plan on just going in with a complete open mind, and take it as it comes.
TTC: 08/2017 EDD: 6/11/2018 FTM
Buuut what I wanted to say is that I give anyone that considers drug free birth so much credit!!
DS: born oct 2012
TFAS: BFP #1 aug16. miscarriage sept16
BFP #2 nov16 MMC dec16. d&c jan17
BFP #3 sept17 EDD 5/31/18
fingers crossed for our rainbow baby
Just the basics, do what needs to be done to keep me and baby safe.
I likely will not go with an epidural this time because last time I felt like I couldn't tell at all how or when to push. That got exhausting after 2 hours.
I would likely be willing to have iv pain meds and possibly nitrous oxide but want to research that more.
I want to breast feed. I want baby to get a paci. I want DH only in the room. I want DH to cut the cord (vaginal birth or csection). Give my baby his or her vitamin k shot.
Last time I labored until I felt I couldn't take it anymore. Midwife said put the epidural in and check her. I was 9 cm so I honestly wish I would have gone without.
So with my first I was in labor for about 20 hours and I stalled at 6cm. They gave me pitocin and some sort of IV pain killer. Took another 6 hours or so but she finally came out face up and startled DH. I had to wear the baby heart rate monitor but I labored on my hands and knees, on a birth ball and standing. They nurses were super nice about it and didn’t try and fight me over any on the positions I labor in.
With my son, I went into labor at Target while we were shopping for a shelving unit for our outdoor storage room. I put that sucker together through my contractions (the hammering was quite therapeutic) and finally got to the point I couldn’t handle it. My parents picked up DD and we got to the hospital and DS was born 15 mins later. I didn’t even get to change out of my dress.
They were both born a 38+5 and both weighed 8#3oz.
ETA: My plan for this one is to labor at home again and maybe go to the hospital a bit earlier than last time.
For a few weeks before the 34 week mark, my midwife had suspicion that he was breach. At 34 weeks and change, we had an ultrasound to confirm and he was found to be frank breach (this was on Saturday morning). We made a plan with my midwife to make acupuncture and chiropractic appointments on Monday when those offices opened - and in the mean time I was doing positions on the spinning babies website. Basically we went into full “do everything we can to get baby to turn naturally” mode. And planned to go see a certain doctor at 37 weeks to perform an external version if we weren’t able to get him to turn on our own. Sunday afternoon I had my maternity photos taken. And at 12:30 that night/the next morning I was woken to contractions coming less than 10 minutes apart for over an hour. Preterm labor at 34 weeks and change. Called my midwife and headed into L&D at the hospital. They confirmed I was in preterm labor and that baby was breach and that if we couldn’t stop labor, he would be born via cesarean section. In a crazy set of circumstances, the doctor that we had planned to go see in a couple weeks was the doctor on call at the hospital that night (she is never ever on call and was only there that night covering for someone else). So we spoke to her and she agreed to perform the external version. We had to agree to an emergency c-section if DS did not handle the version well and went into distress. But if we didn’t get him turned and labor continued, I would have had a c-section anyways. So I agreed and she was able to successfully spin him with the version. Once he was in the correct position, my contractions became irregular and less frequent and we eventually figured out I had kidney stones and that was irritating my uterus. So I decided to go home and pass the stones on my own, since we knew it could take days. I was on “home rest” until I got baby to term at 37 weeks. Until then, I was taking a lot of natural supplements to keep my uterus calm in the mean time. Over the next 10 days, I passed two kidney stones. Literally the most miserable, painful experience of my life (I was pregnant and obviously tried to do it with as little medication as possible). But once the stones passed, all was good and I was able to take my pregnancy to term.
At 39 weeks and one day, I woke up to my water breaking at 7:30am. Contractions started at about 9:30am and my son was born in an at home (mostly) water birth at 4:02pm. It was absolutely amazing.
Home birth for a first birth wasn’t a decision I made lightly. But I did a ton of research on the “cascade of interventions” and read a ton of birth stories and I decided my best bet for ME for having the birth I wanted was to be out of hospital. Had we had a birth center near us, I probably would have birthed at the birth center. But we didn’t, so I opted for home birth. We took a very thorough birth class (1.5 hours a week for 10 weeks) that covered different births (hospital, home, etc), different types of interventions and their pros and cons, and may different pain coping techniques among many other things. I feel that class helped me be prepared in knowing what to expect and having many tools in my bag to pull from in labor. Without such a class, I don’t think I would have been as prepared. I highly recommend such a class to everyone.
We are planning a home birth again for this one. After I gave birth to DS, my midwife asked me if kidney stones or natural birth hurt more and I can tell you with 100% certainty that kidney stones we way worse. And I think if you want a natural birth and you prepare yourself for one, you are capable of having one. Obviously birth is inherently unpredictable and I know medical interventions exist for a reason and I am not against them - I consented to a c-section if necessary with DS and would do the same again if need be. But we are definitely planning on going the all natural route at home again this time.
This is is so say that if you tried to labor through pitocin contractions without an epidural and think you wouldn’t be able to handle natural contractions without an epidural, that’s not a fair comparison, and you probably can, if you want to
If nothing else, I know I do not want my mom's experience, lol.
Ill be going to the hospital again for this birth and I 100% will be getting the epidural again because Im a chicken. Hopefully it goes as smooth as last time! But props to the mommas who do it without an pain meds!!
DS2 was much easier, I went into labor at home at 41 weeks, dealt with it until I could no longer sit down then we rushed to the hospital and he was born within 45 minutes of arriving.
Now, with these twins I'm a little scared. My midwife says so long as baby A isn't breach I have a good shot at vaginal birth, but there's a very real chance I'll need a c-sec. With my inability to get an epidural I'm terrified I'll be put under general if I need a c-sec and not get to experience their birth
Who knows what will happen this time around. I’ll definitely do the epidural because I don’t do pain well.
im more scared for the recovery room. I pretty much blacked out. Had to hand the baby off and I couldn't like move. I felt/saw them moving me around to clean me up. But I couldn't respond back really. No one seemed concerned! I felt so sooo drugged. I don't know if it was the last pain Med they said they were giving me at the end? Or if it was the fact I had so many meds in my body for 48 hrs and all I ate the whole time was half a turkey sandwich and a bag of m&ms one night.... and being an insulin dependent patient.
DS: born oct 2012
TFAS: BFP #1 aug16. miscarriage sept16
BFP #2 nov16 MMC dec16. d&c jan17
BFP #3 sept17 EDD 5/31/18
fingers crossed for our rainbow baby
This time around we're going for a repeat c section. I'm hoping that being prepared for it and not being in labor for 17 hours will make it a little easier. Not that birth is easy at all, but after laboring all night my body went crazy when they did the c section. Dr says they'll do that around 39 weeks, as long as baby doesn't try to come out sooner than that.
I also plan to talk to Dr next appointment about what they will do if baby decides to come early. I'm not opposed to trying for a vbac in that situation, but I just want to be prepared for whatever could happen.
DH: 29 years old.
Me: 25 years old.
DS: born 12/30/14
Baby #2 due 6/8/18
-Also, what's our likelihood of getting GD again lol. They are going to test me at 16 weeks. I'm trying to be healthy but at the same time I want to eat some stuff that I might not be able to have soon!!
I read prior to birth that dates can help women have shorter labor, head to the hospital with their water intact, etc. I'm not eating dates this time. My OB warned me yesterday that this labor will be much quicker (mine was only about 12-14 hours, including the time in which they stopped my labor from progressing) and that I should go to the hospital early on given how fast I progressed from 4cm-8cm last time.
I'm debating changing hospitals simply to have the benefit of nitrous oxide (my current hospital is the only one in the city that still does not offer it). I'm still hesitant on the epidural due to my bad experience (I ultimately couldn't feel anything after it didn't work for a while).
I'm not to sure what the chances are, but I'm praying not to lol. I'm suppose to do the 1 hour at 16 weeks also. and i feel you!! at the moment I'm begging my body to just love sauce (for pasta), pizza and chocolate again before than so I can indulge alittle bit just incase! waaaah, but its not cooperating. following that diet and doing injections was rough for just that long, I can't even imagine doing it for more than half the pregnancy. i'll cry. it did help my weight gain though! lol
DS: born oct 2012
TFAS: BFP #1 aug16. miscarriage sept16
BFP #2 nov16 MMC dec16. d&c jan17
BFP #3 sept17 EDD 5/31/18
fingers crossed for our rainbow baby
I'm not sure if I will hire a doula yet. The practice I am going through has OB's and Midwives but I would just end up with whomever is on call. I am not opposed to just having who is on call but I know their styles can vary on how much liberty they give you, how quick they are to push meds, or how "c-section happy" they are.
I feel like in my case I have to prepare myself for every possibility so that I am not in fear. If I am fearful of birth I know I will clam up and in turn so will my cervix.
I am going to look into the Bradley Method, but what other birth classes or resources did you use that really helped? I have watched The Business of Being Born, which I think is what lead me down the path I am on right now. I also have started reading Ina May's.
DS: 6/1/18 (Pre-E; IUGR; seizures; NICU)
TTC #2: 12/2019
Sept 2020: HSG possible blocked right tube
Nov 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFN
Dec 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFP!!! EDD 9/18
DH:34 - Me: 33
Emmaline Winifred - 1.25.2013
Wesley Daniel - 7.24.2014
#3 EDD - 6.24.2018
Married March 2016
DD: born 7.22.16
DS EDD: 6.23.18
With DS2 I labored at home in the shower till I was at 5cm then went in to the hospital and got in the shower there till I was at 9cm. It helped so much. After that DH Doing counterpressure on my back helped, but I ended up getting an epidural because they told me I was regressing back to 8cm (???). But that blessed epidural took away the pain completely and I swear I was smiling while pushing.
This time ill probably labor at home as long as possible again, but might get the epidural a bit earlier too. I’ll play it by ear.
Ultimately, at 35 weeks, I had a precipitous labor (which is defined as labor/delivery that takes place in 3 hours or less). My water broke at 5 pm, and my son was born at 7:20 pm. I got that med-free birth I wanted, but everything else was a complete clusterf*ck. I was home alone almost the whole time, and I had to call an ambulance to get me to hospital, because I felt the unstoppable urge to push. My husband arrived home from work just in time to hop in the back of the ambulance with me.
I am about a thousand times more nervous for labor with this one, because I'm worried about how I'm ever going to get to the hospital in time, especially now that I have a kid at home that I don't really want to tote along in the back of an ambulance. I'll be getting progesterone shots from weeks 16-36 to help prevent pre-term labor, but that won't have any effect on the length of labor once it starts. Maybe I'll just camp out outside the hospital from week 36 onward?! Seriously, though, this anxiety is real, and I do worry about how I'm going to manage it as I get further along.
Husband: 35
Married: June 2007
Son Max born 1/10/17
BFP #2: 10/5/17; EDD: 6/11/18
I would like to labor at home but I'm under the impression that as soon as your water breaks you should be in the hospital because there is no longer a sterile environment for babe.
DS: 6/1/18 (Pre-E; IUGR; seizures; NICU)
TTC #2: 12/2019
Sept 2020: HSG possible blocked right tube
Nov 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFN
Dec 2020: Letrozole + TI - BFP!!! EDD 9/18
This is why most care providers like to limit vaginal checks after the water has broken.
I mean if you hit like 24 hours with waters broken and nothing is happening, that starts to be a different story. But you definitely don’t have to go in as soon as your water breaks. It was 2 hours after my water broke before I even started having contractions
My midwife made me stay at home until I couldn't talk through contractions. As I said previously, my contractions never were 5 minutes apart, which is typically the indicator of going to the hospital. I started at 2-3 minutes apart, increased to 4 and then went back down. I ultimately went in when they were 2:30 apart, lasting for a minute and I couldn't talk / was vocalizing through contractions. My water didn't break until later that night.
Any birth class you take will talk to you about how long to stay at home, what signs to look for, etc. Plus, when you go into labor, you will be calling your doctor / midwife to check in. I called every hour or two until I was told to go in.
This time around, I *hope* to avoid high BP & preeclampsia at the end and allow my body to go into labor on its own. I also plan to get an epidural earlier in the labor process. I also hope for another fairly "short" birthing process!
I'm at a new hospital this time though, so I'll find out their policies before I get close to having baby. If there is anything I don't like, I'll see what I can do about changing it.
(I am not super nervous about minor tearing, but I am irrationally very very nervous about major tearing.)
Tearing is very normal though and usually NBD. But I understand the fear. You are pushing something the size of a watermelon
out if a home much smaller. Just remember your body was designed to do this, and it does stretch
I had a completely med-free birth with DS and I give credit to a few things that I think helped me immensely through his labor and delivery. We used a Doula and her services both before and during labor were absolutely priceless. DH was a great birthing coach, but it was so so helpful to have two people in the room that I knew were there to help me get through it. I had been going to acupuncture leading up the delivery, and my acupuncturist taught me, DH and our Doula some acupressure points to help induce labor when the time came, and then to ease pain throughout each stage. I had all back labor and those back pressure points helped so so much. I don't think I could've done it med free without that. Also, I did hypnobabies for months leading up to labor and used it during delivery and that helped a lot too. I ended up taking them out of my ears for pushing, but it was really helpful for every stage leading up to that. I drank Red Raspberry Leaf tea in the weeks prior to going into labor, like 3-4 cups daily, which is supposed to help tone the uterus in preparation for labor. Who knows if it helped, but I'll definitely be doing it again!
RE tearing: DS was 8lbs 1oz and I tore with him pretty darn bad. I had zero pain meds and I didn't feel the tear at all. After he was out, they numbed the area to stitch me back up, but since he was on my chest, I barely paid attention and didn't really care what they were doing down there. I was worried about tearing prior to giving birth too but the worst part of it was the recovery afterward. For any kind of birth I would say take some fiber like Metamucil or something like it to help make going to the bathroom after birth a lot easier.
I plan to have a similar plan to the one I used for DS' delivery, and all I can do is hope it goes as smoothly as his did. Every stage of parenthood is one big ol' question mark but all we can do is prep the best we can!