February 2018 Moms

STM+ Check In 8/30

I haven't seem the STM+ discussion posted in recent weeks... and the Board Organization post says it's okay for someone not assigned to start the discussion by mid-morning so I thought I'd start it this week.

1.) How old are any children you already have?

2.) What ideas do you have to get the older sibling(s) excited about baby and to reduce jealousy?
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  • 1.) How old are any children you already have?
    DD will be 23 months when baby is born. She is currently 17 months.

    2.) What ideas do you have to get the older sibling(s) excited about baby and to reduce jealousy?
    I'm not sure how much she will actually understand. I read in a parenting book not to focus on the baby too much all the time. Right now we're just reading some books about babies and siblings. She actually brings the baby books to me often and likes to look at babies when we're out in public, so I'm taking that as a good sign. We're going to get her a baby doll for Christmas; another mom told me her older one liked to dress, feed, burp, and walk her doll while mom is caring for baby. We're also moving DD into her "big girl room" a couple of months before baby is here so she sees that as graduating because she is older, and doesn't feel like she got kicked out of her space because a new baby is here.
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  • 1.) How old are any children you already have? 

    DS is 15 months, will be 21 months when his little brother arrives.

    2.) What ideas do you have to get the older sibling(s) excited about baby and to reduce jealousy?

    Like @precious88, I don't think DS will understand much until the baby actually gets here and he realizes he doesn't have all our attention.  Will just try to be cognizant of each of us sharing our attention with both kids.  He likes the dolls at daycare, so getting him a doll may not be a bad idea!
  • 1.) How old are any children you already have? 

    My son is 5

    2.) What ideas do you have to get the older sibling(s) excited about baby and to reduce jealousy?

    He is super excited and wants to snuggle with me and the baby each morning and night. He really is looking forward to helping and being a big brother. He even went through his toys and picked out ones he thinks the baby will like. I do not think he will be overly jealous so long as I can still show him attention too. Thankfully he will be at school most of the day and then has after school activities a few days a week. I think he will be too busy to be jealous. 
  • 1. I have three - DD1 is 14 and DD2 and DD3 are 11.

    2. I'm not super worried about jealousy since my girls are older and into their own things.  I'm more worried about them helping me out.  Yay!  Built in babysitters!  But, when my twins were born, I made sure DD1 was greeted first by visitors, especially grandma, instead of letting them rush to see the babies.  That seemed to work pretty well.
  • 1) How old are any children you already have? 
    15yo DD

    2.) What ideas do you have to get the older sibling(s) excited about baby and to reduce jealousy? She's very excited about the baby. She's wanted a sibling for so long. She's a little jealous that she won't be my only child but is looking forward to helping out. I think her age helps because we can speak more plainly about it. I think she's more mortified that my having a baby is proof that I have sex and she would "rather not be aware of that thank you". Lol

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  • 1.) How old are any children you already have? 
    I have one son--he will almost be 2 1/2 when DS #2 is born. 

    2.) What ideas do you have to get the older sibling(s) excited about baby and to reduce jealousy?
    We talk about "baby brother" and DS has started paying more attention to babies in general--but I doubt he will understand everything until DS2 comes along.  We are getting a "big boy" bedroom ready this fall and plan on decorating it in tractors--which he will love and I will have to get over. lol 

    @olitwinturbosnprincess  I like the idea of having guests greet DS first when they visit.  We will also be sure to spend quality time with DS with and without baby until he adjusts. 
  • 1) How old are any children you already have? 
    15yo DD

    2.) What ideas do you have to get the older sibling(s) excited about baby and to reduce jealousy? She's very excited about the baby. She's wanted a sibling for so long. She's a little jealous that she won't be my only child but is looking forward to helping out. I think her age helps because we can speak more plainly about it. I think she's more mortified that my having a baby is proof that I have sex and she would "rather not be aware of that thank you". Lol
    This!  I have heard "Eww!" More than a couple times.  
  • 1.) How old are any children you already have? 

    My kids will be 13, 11, 9, 8, and 3 this Nov/Dec.

    2.) What ideas do you have to get the older sibling(s) excited about baby and to reduce jealousy?

    No issues of jealousy. That's never been an issue with my older kids. Not really sure if dd3 will struggle with it. That's something we'd address when/if it becomes an issue. The older kids are very much "Yay. Another sibling." They're excited, but after a certain point it probably seems BTDT.
    G 12.04 | E 11.06 | D 11.08  | H 12.09 | R 11.14 | Expecting #6 2.16.18.




  • 1.) How old are any children you already have? 

    Two sons, 3.5 and 5.5.  They will just have turned 4 And 6 when the baby is born. 

    2.) What ideas do you have to get the older sibling(s) excited about baby and to reduce jealousy?

    right now I'm trying to get them involved and helping make choices with purchases and decorating. My little one is very excited and has named his bunny "baby" and rocks him and puts him down for naps. My older one seems more hesitant and was the same way when his brother was born. He's more of a hands on type of kid and probably won't show much emotion about the baby until he's born.  He likes to show off things so maybe he can be the one to introduce the baby to people so he can feel special. 
  • @precious88  I am pretty much in the same boat as you!

    1.) How old are any children you already have? 

    DD will be 24 months when baby is born. She is currently 18 months.

    2.) What ideas do you have to get the older sibling(s) excited about baby and to reduce jealousy? 
    DD probably won't understand a thing until the newborn is home and she isn't getting 100% of the attention. I have been starting to tell her "there is a baby in Mommy's belly" which she doesn't understand, but she does know belly and baby. I'm hoping for a quick adjustment. But who knows!
  • 1.
    DS is 4 and DD is 2. 4 1/2 and 2 1/2 when DS2 is here. 

    2. 
    Both my kids are so excited. I'm really not worried. DS was 24mo when DD was born and did great. I just made sure to have play time with with him when DD slept. I nursed DD on the floor while playing with legos lol. I also bought a book with a big brother and little sister and would replace the nouns/pronouns with DS and DD's name. DS LOVED that. I'm hoping to find a big sister book for DD with the same boy, girl, boy sequence that we will have. 

    Im thinking of getting DD a life like baby doll to give her in the hospital after DS2 is born. I think she would love that. 

    DS seems to totally get it. I'm not too worried about him. 

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  • 1.) How old are any children you already have? 

    10, 2, 1.5 all girls 

    2.) What ideas do you have to get the older sibling(s) excited about baby and to reduce jealousy?

    We have never really had issues with jealousy because everyone just helps out when needed. Everyone feels included. The only issues I've ran into is my 10yo wanting to do things her sisters can't do but we always try to compromise and make things work! 
  • 1) 6, 7

    2) My oldest is going to be a jerk once he gets over the excitement. I see it coming a mile away. We will figure it out. I don't know how but we will.
  • 1.) How old are any children you already have? 

    DD is almost 18 months so she will be just shy of 2 when new baby gets here. 

    2.) What ideas do you have to get the older sibling(s) excited about baby and to reduce jealousy?

    DD and my nephew are almost the same exact age gap. He never really grasped the concept that we were having a baby. We talked about it and when DD was born it made a little more sense to him. With DD we talk about he baby in mama's belly. She will wave to my stomach and say hi. Sometimes she will "kiss the baby" but she usually ends up head butting me. At least they're playing well together??
  • @Starynightsky24 ohh what's the name of that book? I've been looking for something like that!

    1. DD1 will be 26 months when DD2 is born.

    2. I've been thinking about this a lot and have been really enjoying reading all the suggestions everyone has posted.  I think we'll get a doll and a book about being a big sister. 
  • Oh, does anyone know any resources or websites the recommend for potty training advice? I've been looking but all the sites seem to have the same basic high level tips.  I need details and specific examples of people's experiences.  DD is 21 months and keeps taking her pants and diaper off and going to sit on the potty saying "pee pee potty!!" She'll voluntarily sit there for 10 minutes at a time, but has never actually made it i the potty.  She keeps going on the carpet after she gives up.  I think this means she's mentally ready but I don't think she recognizes her body signals that it's time to go yet.  Also she still completely fills her diaper when she sleeps every night.  I cannot for the life of me keep her diaper on her when she's home so I think my options are to duct tape her diaper on or roll up the rugs and try to potty train
  • Ashoes123 said:
    Oh, does anyone know any resources or websites the recommend for potty training advice? I've been looking but all the sites seem to have the same basic high level tips.  I need details and specific examples of people's experiences.  DD is 21 months and keeps taking her pants and diaper off and going to sit on the potty saying "pee pee potty!!" She'll voluntarily sit there for 10 minutes at a time, but has never actually made it i the potty.  She keeps going on the carpet after she gives up.  I think this means she's mentally ready but I don't think she recognizes her body signals that it's time to go yet.  Also she still completely fills her diaper when she sleeps every night.  I cannot for the life of me keep her diaper on her when she's home so I think my options are to duct tape her diaper on or roll up the rugs and try to potty train
    My almost 22 month old son has showed a lot of interest in the potty and has sat on it a few times. I think he wants to be like his big brother. But physically I don't think he's ready - he isn't stable enough to sit and point it down, and he doesn't sit long enough to actually go. So I let him try when he wants to, and figure when he gets a bit taller or more coordinated (maybe after Christmas) we will try to really enforce it. Very few kids are truly ready to potty train this young. First son showed intermittent interest for a couple of months before he actually did it (at about 27-28 months). It was a rough about 3 weeks
  • Ashoes123 2.5-3.5 seems about the norm for most toddlers. Some can and do take to it early and quickly at younger ages, but it's not the norm and it's totally fine and developmentally appropriate to have hits and misses before 3.5, if not older.

    My dd2 was fully trained at 18 months, and she was probably the easiest of my older three. She showed signs of readiness very early and was very verbal at that age. I used the same process with my others. I wasn't even intending to introduce it to her at that age. Given the circumstances at the time, it just sort of happened. My other two were 27 and 30 months when they were fully trained. It was a pretty quick and easy process with them, too.

    Unsurprisingly, my dd3, 33 months, is a different story. She's aware of her body's cues and can use the potty, she's just stubborn and likes her routine. I'm at the "She'll likely just decide to use it on her own one day." point where I'm not fretting over it. She'll get there when she gets there.
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  • 1.) How old are any children you already have? 

    DD is almost 18 months so she will be just shy of 2 when new baby gets here. 

    2.) What ideas do you have to get the older sibling(s) excited about baby and to reduce jealousy?

    DD and my nephew are almost the same exact age gap. He never really grasped the concept that we were having a baby. We talked about it and when DD was born it made a little more sense to him. With DD we talk about he baby in mama's belly. She will wave to my stomach and say hi. Sometimes she will "kiss the baby" but she usually ends up head butting me. At least they're playing well together??
    Aw, that's so cute that she kisses your belly! The other day I told DD (17 months) that there is a baby in Mommy's belly just to see if she'd even react. She stared really intently at my stomach, then yanked up my shirt, looked around under it for a minute, and said, "No." lol
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  • 1.) How old are any children you already have? 

    DS turns 2 in December so he will be about 27 months when the baby arrives. 

    2.) What ideas do you have to get the older sibling(s) excited about baby and to reduce jealousy?

    Our little guy doesn't understand at all what's going on! He has started saying baby but doesn't notice anything. He is pretty wild and I'm hoping he calms down in the next 5 months! 
  • Ashoes123Ashoes123 member
    edited August 2017
    Thanks @soulcupcake @jessilee15 I think she's really too young too and I'd prefer potty training not to stretch out forever.  Do you think it's harmful to discourage it though? I will literally have to duct tape her diaper on.  She undoes the onsie and takes her pants and diaper off and will run and get her potty from the bathroom and put it in front of the tv so she can sit on it and watch her show. Then after about 5 to 10 minutes she gets up and goes to play and I have to put her diaper back on which she immediately takes off again within a minute. We repeat this about 10 times every night. Maybe I'm just an impatient mom and should accept this as part of raising a toddler?
  • jessilee15jessilee15 member
    edited August 2017
    With my first I absolutely had to duct tape his diaper on. Total escape artist - he could remove it in 3 seconds by 18 months. Fortunately, after I taped it for a couple of days he lost interest in the game and stopped doing it. Or you could try transitioning her to a pull up during the day? They're kind of a pain to change when they poop and they're more expensive, but in her situation it might be a good option
  • 1.) How old are any children you already have? 
     Dd just turned 1 so will be about 17months when baby is born
    2.) What ideas do you have to get the older sibling(s) excited about baby and to reduce jealousy?
     I have no clue where to even start. I'm hoping to try and just introduce and have her involved as much as possible to reduce jealousy since she likes to try and play with the other babies at the breastfeeding group we go to. Other than that I think I'm going to be on the struggle bus lol
  • Mine are currently 5, 3, 2, and 11 months. I'm not too concerned about jealousy, everyone is pretty used to having babies around here. There is really nothing I can do to prep the current baby for it though.

    As for keeping the diaper on, have you tried a onesie on backwards and backwards zip up PJs at night. That helped my DD get through that stage.

    That being said, it eventually got to the point where she would just drop down in the middle of the mall and say "change my bum" and then I was kind of forced to potty train because I couldn't drag her along when I had the baby carrier in the other hand. Just make her sit every 15 minutes and try to distract her to keep her on until she got (read books, etc.) Make a huge deal when she actually goes. Find her currency and reward her with it until she gets in a routine of it ( DD used to get 1 mini marshmallow, DS Likes to get a sticker). I only had too reward for 2-3 days and then they understood what they were supposed to do

     DD born Oct 2011 - DS#1 born Jan 2014 - DS#2 born Apr 2015 - DS#3 born Sept 2016 - LO#5 due Feb 7, 2018

  • @Ashoes123, I was going to suggest a pull up as well. If she poops at about the same time each day, just put a diaper on her then. Poop in a pull up is really annoying. It is not horrid though, just rip the sides. She might even like the fact she can pull the pull up up and down in her own and keep it on because of that. 
  • edited August 2017
    @Ashoes123 I just used this one. I replaced the names myself. 

    EDIT also, I think trying to potty train won't hurt.  I tried potting training DS three times.  When he finally got it (at 2.5)  he was fully potty trained in a week. You'll know right away if she's not ready.  The other times I gave up after two days. 

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  • 1.) How old are any children you already have? 
    Just turned 1, will be 18 months when baby comes.

    2.) What ideas do you have to get the older sibling(s) excited about baby and to reduce jealousy?
    She's obviously way too young to know what is going on. I think the jealousy is inevitable when it comes to time and attention from me. My hope is that it is short lived as at a certain point she won't remember not having a sibling. 
  • Thank you so much everyone, really great advice. Right now I just don't have the time or patience to potty train and I don't think she's ready.  I'll try the pull-ups and if those don't work I'll keep the diaper on with the other methods you mentioned.  Thanks!
  • @Starynightsky24 Thank you for the book recommendation! I think reading about it is a great way to prepare them, even the little guys who don't really understand. If anyone else has used a sibling book, it would be nice to see more titles.
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  • 1) How old are any children you already have? 
    15yo DD

    2.) What ideas do you have to get the older sibling(s) excited about baby and to reduce jealousy? She's very excited about the baby. She's wanted a sibling for so long. She's a little jealous that she won't be my only child but is looking forward to helping out. I think her age helps because we can speak more plainly about it. I think she's more mortified that my having a baby is proof that I have sex and she would "rather not be aware of that thank you". Lol
    My mom got pregnant with my youngest brother when I was 15 and that was my exact reaction!


    1. DS who will be 2 in Nov
    2. He doesn't really understand what is going on. 
    I bought he baby doll and plan to get a few books. We will probably get him a gift "from the baby" to give to him when she is born. We also plan to let him introduce his baby sister to all the grandparents and family friends at the hospital. Try to make it exciting for him, and remind others not just focus on the new baby. 

  • I've had a ton of older sibling books for the kids. There is also a big sister version of the Joanna Cole one mentioned above. My favorite so far is this one: 
    https://www.google.ca/search?q=emma+dodd+baby+and+me&client=ms-android-sonimtech&hl=en-US&prmd=insv&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjR0_qp44HWAhUj54MKHbWZArcQ_AUICigA&biw=320&bih=456&dpr=1.5

    It has pull tabs where the babies bottle emptied and the cradle rocks and stuff like that. Very interactive and cute.

    Depending on the age of the child Daniel Tiger also had a couple of episodes that do a great job in explaining about what to expect when baby comes and how things will be different but still fun.

     DD born Oct 2011 - DS#1 born Jan 2014 - DS#2 born Apr 2015 - DS#3 born Sept 2016 - LO#5 due Feb 7, 2018

  • 1.) How old are any children you already have?

    DS will turn 5 right when the baby arrives 

    2.) What ideas do you have to get the older sibling(s) excited about baby and to reduce jealousy?

    We've had a couple conversations about babies and what's expected of him as a big brother (ie babies cry a lot/ ways to help soothe a baby) We're trying to build excitement by encouraging him to make a list of things he can't wait to teach the baby, like how to build with blocks and play video games. I was really worried about jealousy but as long as we're careful I think he'll do great. He's even picked a song that he wants to learn on his guitar to sing to help calm the baby if its crying. If you knew my little man you'd know he's had his share of social issues but he's doing great already! 

  • @laurelraido Aww, the song idea is cute! Good idea for that age group!

    @GoogleMD  I love the idea of the gift from baby for older sibling(s), too.
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  • @Ashoes123 have you tried putting the diaper on backwards? I've used that trick before. 

    1. My kids are currently 16, 14, 12, 10, and 7.

    2. No jealousy issues just excited for baby too come, giving ridiculous name suggestions,    and arguing over whose room he'll be in (they all want him in their rooms), and everyone telling me to stop doing stuff so the baby doesn't get hurt.  
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  • NBR question....DD is almost 18 months old and I'm probably just expecting too much from her but are there any resources on teaching them to wait or be patient. Not for extended periods of time but while food is heating up, I'm making a sippy cup etc. She has an insane vocabulary and can pretty much express anything verbally so it's making me nuts for her to just sit there and scream at me. 
  • @SarahFoley725 ok this is going to sound dumb but here goes. Something that I've done with my two year old (so maybe your isn't quite ready for this, not sure) is invent a fantasy to better help them deal with reality.

    For example mine used to whine for stuff in the car and it was super annoying. "I want my duck!!!" And I would say something like "oh I wish I could get you your duck, actually, I wish we had one hundred ducks... All different colors. I'd like lots of red ones. What color ducks would you like?"

    It's sort of a method of distraction because by the time you are home they aren't whining about the duck on the floor. When I first heard of it I thought "oh no way, she's way too young for that to work. I'm just going to try it to tell that person how it didn't work" and what do you know, I was the one eatingng my words. Though mine was a bit older than yours.

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  • @SarahFoley725 is she legit screaming at you?  If she is,  i wouldn't tolerate that and stop whatever i was doing for her and tell her when she calms down you will resume.  For example,  if you are getting her a sippy cup and she starts,  i would set down the cup and say something like "it is not nice to scream at people,  mommy doesn't  like it.  When you have calmed down you may ask me nicely and  i will make it for you then." And walk away.  If she has a large vocabulary she should understand what you are saying.  It will take a few tries for her to get it,  and then the behavior should stop.  By allowing her to scream at you and still giving her what she wants you are reinforcing the screaming. 
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  • @sabriel1 that's a great idea but I think too advanced for her still. We do talk about things like that to distract her when she's upset, but it's more like "well we have to put on your shoes so we can go in mommys car to the store etc" 

    @mamaof5already I don't know why I didn't think of that before. That's what we do when she hits. I'll definitely have to try that. It's worse when it's in public like this morning getting chocolate milk at Starbucks. The lady wasn't fast enough and that was a problem. She understands what I'm saying to her she just doesn't care. 
  • @mamaof5already that's a great idea, I'll do the backwards diaper.
  • @SarahFoley725 is she legit screaming at you?  If she is,  i wouldn't tolerate that and stop whatever i was doing for her and tell her when she calms down you will resume.  For example,  if you are getting her a sippy cup and she starts,  i would set down the cup and say something like "it is not nice to scream at people,  mommy doesn't  like it.  When you have calmed down you may ask me nicely and  i will make it for you then." And walk away.  If she has a large vocabulary she should understand what you are saying.  It will take a few tries for her to get it,  and then the behavior should stop.  By allowing her to scream at you and still giving her what she wants you are reinforcing the screaming. 
    This. I put mine in time out and say if they are going to choose to behave that way they can do it in timeout. It works for me. 

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