Baby moved !

crysmomaof3 · August 2017

I'm. 11 weeks and 4 days .. and i thiught I felt butterflies but thiught maybe it's stress because I've been going through alot of it latley .. but then it happened again and again and I payed more attention this time and I deffently felt butterflies .. is it too early I've read it's definitely not this is my 4th preghancy

heatherdubrow · August 2017

Kristi4938 · August 2017

It's way too early to feel baby move. Probably gas. Sorry.

becausescience · August 2017

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ShawnnaO · August 2017

Just gas. Give it a few more weeks!

Gingermom15 · August 2017

DDRRT1982 · August 2017

I had a posterior placenta with my last baby, the 4th as well, and still didn't feel anything until around 18 weeks. I agree it's probably gas.

lund · August 2017

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Also,

Cowboycorgi · August 2017

Why did we never start a 'drive by poster says wha?!?' Bingo game? I'm sure we would have had a winner by now...

i guess with gas, we are all winners!

LiveNLove44 · August 2017

knottie8abfd0e968fec170 said:

I'm. 11 weeks and 4 days .. and i thiught I felt butterflies but thiught maybe it's stress because I've been going through alot of it latley .. but then it happened again and again and I payed more attention this time and I deffently felt butterflies .. is it too early I've read it's definitely not this is my 4th preghancy

SO, is this a question?

I was just thinking to myself that we haven't had a drive-by random in awhile. Since this is your 4th pregnancy and you've already read that you have a "definite" answer to your would-be question, I'll just leave with this!

crossfitbabybump · August 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EShUeudtaFg

Preghancy?

chasingroygbiv · August 2017

I'm very small framed, some would say skinny, but I hate that, it makes me more self conscious. Anyway, I've felt my babies "early" but never before 13 weeks. 11 weeks would really be impressive...... And I only felt my son at 13 weeks with a posterior placenta. With both my daughter and this pregnancy (pregnancy #6 if that matters) placenta is anterior. Have yet to feel movement at 14+3.

Exciting for you if that's what you're feeling, but I truly have never heard of that...... ever. I DO have TONS of weird gas movements going on though as everything moves around and starts getting squished in there and sometimes it does feel.. butterfly-ish, but I can still tell the difference and it hasn't been baby yet.

kitandcat · August 2017

I say, why not think it's the baby! You're very familiar with the feelings associated with the different stages of pregnancy and I'd say just go with it! If you feel it, then enjoy it! If it's not really happening, who cares! Just enjoy the excitement and joy you feel :-)

Peoples responses are again making me wonder why I'm even here in the first place. Is this a 16-and-pregnant board and we're all in high school?? What's with the drama and rudeness?? Why can't people just be nice and supportive! Ugh it drives me crazy!!!!

kiki75 · August 2017

kiki75 · August 2017

Fun fact: anyone who doesn't want to be here isn't being held hostage. They are free to go at any time.

lund · August 2017

@kiki75 OMG where did you find that gif??? I've been looking for it for weeks!

npkat · August 2017

@kitandcat I agree with you. I was actually starting to get a little upset with how people have been reacting and being rude. This board is suppose to be about support and sharing.. not shaming. If she thinks she felt the baby, that's amazing! If it's gas, that's amazing too because it means those bowels are moving at which this time I wish mine were. If she was asking you your opinion on it, I'm sure there are much more tactful ways of saying it might just be gas than what you guys have put forth. It's pretty disheartening.. especially as a FTM. Makes me want to never ask a question just in case it's the 'wrong' one and I might get these type of responses.

ShawnnaO · August 2017

I don't think most of the women here were being rude. I certainly wasn't trying to be. We were asked if it was too early, and the majority of us clearly think it is. Which isn't an illogical way of thinking since 1.) google says it's early, and 2.) most doctors will tell you it's gas this early. That doesn't mean OP is outright wrong in asking her question. I think it's great that some of you have felt flutters earlier and it must mean you're super in tune to your bodies. But I will say it seems odd to me that someone would create a totally separate thread to ask a question she says she already googled and got the answer she wanted.

lund · August 2017

**Removed for TOU violation**

DDRRT1982 · August 2017

I wouldn't worry about asking the "wrong" question if you are an active poster and people of this board have developed a relationship with you. I think most of us understand we aren't all in the same place with our motherhood journey and if people know who you are they are more inclined to respond appropriately. However, and I could be wrong, but this particular poster has not really established such a rapport with this group and just looks like a drive-by random question that is all too common at this stage in these boards. For me, regardless of the anedotal statement, I do not believe a baby at 11 weeks of gestation has the physical strength to trigger the receptors in your body to indicate movement. Personally, I don't want anyone to be confused that this is normal and an expectation. I feel that it could cause unnecessary expectations and stress, because the reality is that most women do not feel movement at 11 weeks.

ShawnnaO · August 2017

@DDRRT1982 I know my mother in law telling me she felt movement right away in all four of her pregnancies really made me feel like something was wrong with me when I didn't feel "for sure" movements until 16ish weeks. She told me she was "so in tune with her children, she could always tell what they were doing in there" and it made me feel like crap. So agreed, I don't want a FTM to come on this thread and think they aren't completely normal if they don't feel movement early.

crossfitbabybump · August 2017

I'm 14 weeks along and I'm a FTM.. I asked my Dr. at my u/s when I would be able to feel baby. She said not for a few more weeks at least.. maybe months. Baby is only 7 cm long at this point and weighs barely a full ounce I think. There's no way with all of your organs and the fluid in you that you should be able to feel something that small yet. At 11 weeks, the baby is only the size of a lime. A very small lime. You wouldn't be able to feel that in your belly either. But I'm no doctor or scientist. Just my opinion.

muggle621 · August 2017

DDRRT1982 said:

I wouldn't worry about asking the "wrong" question if you are an active poster and people of this board have developed a relationship with you. I think most of us understand we aren't all in the same place with our motherhood journey and if people know who you are they are more inclined to respond appropriately. However, and I could be wrong, but this particular poster has not really established such a rapport with this group and just looks like a drive-by random question that is all too common at this stage in these boards. For me, regardless of the anedotal statement, I do not believe a baby at 11 weeks of gestation has the physical strength to trigger the receptors in your body to indicate movement. Personally, I don't want anyone to be confused that this is normal and an expectation. I feel that it could cause unnecessary expectations and stress, because the reality is that most women do not feel movement at 11 weeks.

Yes, this. Had the OP created a real user name, introduced herself and participated at any point in time then I feel there would have been a lot less "snark" and gifs. BBUUUUTTTT she just couldn't be bothered to read the "Read this First" thread and go through all those steps so whatever happens happens.

*Edited to correct grammar
*Edit again b/c I used the word bother too many times

Kristi4938 · August 2017

I don't see anyone being rude except maybe the OP.

crossfitbabybump · August 2017

I'm just saying at my u/s the baby was moving so fast around it was hard to get pictures. And I was lying on my back. Still didn't feel a thing.

Kristi4938 · August 2017

loganjsmommy1978 said:

Yes, most of the responses were rude. "Google says"...lol. My flutters were "scientifically" supported by the U/S, so movement this early is scientifically possible.

I guess I fail to see how citing google is rude.

DDRRT1982 · August 2017

loganjsmommy1978 said:

Yes, most of the responses were rude. "Google says"...lol. My flutters were "scientifically" supported by the U/S, so movement this early is scientifically possible.

I truly hope what you felt was movement, however, your baby's neurologic system is so immature that it is moving constantly. To correlate movement with the sensation of actually feeling them at 11 weeks gestation is a stretch, but I am glad you got that experience. I just hope that other posters know this is not the norm at this gestation.

Edit for clarification

***It's nervous system and not neurologic. Embarrassing goof-up, sorry.

heatherdubrow · August 2017

Oh good, another thread where we argue about changing an already established board culture... same people complaining too. So fun!

becausescience · August 2017

loganjsmommy1978 said:

Yes, most of the responses were rude. "Google says"...lol. My flutters were "scientifically" supported by the U/S, so movement this early is scientifically possible.

Because it isn't possible to have gas during an ultrasound...? Clearly you're the most scientific person on this board.

heatherdubrow · August 2017

loganjsmommy1978 said:

becausescience said:

loganjsmommy1978 said:

Yes, most of the responses were rude. "Google says"...lol. My flutters were "scientifically" supported by the U/S, so movement this early is scientifically possible.

Because it isn't possible to have gas during an ultrasound...? Clearly you're the most scientific person on this board.

Lol...of course it is. That wasn't what happened. But let's forget that members made fun of the OP spelling and post with a series of rude comnents/GIFs and now wants to say that what my OB and I witnessed was scientific enough but refer to Google. Hilarious.

And yet another thread becomes all about you.

kiki75 · August 2017

loganjsmommy1978 said:

kiki75 said:

Fun fact: anyone who doesn't want to be here isn't being held hostage. They are free to go at any time.

So this means that if you don't like being picked on or snarkly replied to, that you can go? That it's o.k. for members to act this way and that other members can shut up or ship out? Reasonable thinking...

Exactly. If you don't like it, nothing requires you to stay. The Bump is not where you go if you want to pop in to claim to feel movement at 11 weeks and have a bunch of ninnies fangirl over you. Especially if you've already GBCBed a couple times.
1. Baby is about 1.6 inches in a ute the size of a grapefruit. Kid barely has bones and really no muscle tone. You are not feeling movement at 11 weeks. We've been over this. The Bump values science and logic.
2. If it were an established poster who got over excited, the facts would be explained and chances are she wouldn't be mad about being told what Google says.
3. This is a rando who hasn't even bothered to make a screen name making an AW post.
4. No one here is required to be blindly supportive of everything anyone here says simply because we happen to all have due dates in or close to March. I don't even want that kind of support. I chose The Bump because I like people who will give it to me straight. If I wanted to find a community of people who would blow smoke, I'd have gone and found that.
5. We've beat this topic to death. The Bump community is what it is. It's not going to make a drastic change in the next seven months.

mdfarmchick · August 2017

As a FTM with DS once I hit the second trimester I had people constantly asking me if I had felt the baby yet... so as someone who didn't feel her baby move until almost 19 weeks the first time, I don't want anyone to read this thread and think 11, 12, 14, etc. weeks is normal for movement. Most of the people asking me were explaining about flutters and had multiple kids and were giving great anecdotal stories about how early they felt movement and it made me panic because I didn't. Some people may not feel baby until after 20+ weeks depending on where their placenta is.

I don't think people were rude on here and I think OP was kind of rude in only posting something that she could have and admitted she googled. But I would hate for anyone to stumble across this post and then worry about them and their baby because they aren't feeling movement at 11 weeks. I, for one, appreciate a good, funny, "snarky" GIF.

chasingroygbiv · August 2017

I'm just confused as to why anyone that thinks our board members are rude/snarky (and dislike it) stick around? If I didn't like a board or how it worked I would just bow out.

Also, as a PGAL who already worries enough, it's comforting when people preach science— its NORMAL to feel baby 16 weeks+, maybe 13+ if you're a STM. It's unusual any earlier. If I hopped on here and went by what Jane Doe said was normal I would be in a psych ward because I would be so filled with worry that my pregnancy was NOT normal. Again, I haven't felt my baby yet at over 14 weeks.. I'm going to stick with Science for now as to not worry myself even more sick.

mdfarmchick · August 2017

@loganjsmommy1978 you took my entire point and reduced it to a semantic that you don't agree with. I was not in any way, shape or form directly quoting you. I told my own story of why this can be a trigger for worry for other moms. I'm really over your whole attitude about every single post that members choose to disagree with and you decide to go on a crusade over. Have a great day and I'm actually good with you ignoring me from here on out.

DDRRT1982 · August 2017

loganjsmommy1978 said:

heatherdubrow said:most

loganjsmommy1978 said:

becausescience said:

loganjsmommy1978 said:

Yes, most of the responses were rude. "Google says"...lol. My flutters were "scientifically" supported by the U/S, so movement this early is scientifically possible.

Because it isn't possible to have gas during an ultrasound...? Clearly you're the most scientific person on this board.

Lol...of course it is. That wasn't what happened. But let's forget that members made fun of the OP spelling and post with a series of rude comnents/GIFs and now wants to say that what my OB and I witnessed was scientific enough but refer to Google. Hilarious.

And yet another thread becomes all about you.

I don't even have a response to this. This comment is pure BS.

You have to admit you have kind of been on a run of telling people they are mean when you disagree with responses.

npkat · August 2017

I'm not saying anyone should debunk science, hell i'm a nurse practitioner and all I practice is science and evidenced based medicine. All I was saying is that there is probably a more tactful way for some to get your point across that it's actually gas and not baby, when those people might not be as informed on science facts. And I understand that they don't have a true user name, never posted etc, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't treat them with respect. That's all.

pettycrocker · August 2017

Things are definitely moving around in there, everything is started to get pushed up a bit. I felt my first baby with anterior placenta much sooner than I felt DD2 with posterior placenta.

kitandcat · August 2017

The biggest reason I am sticking around is because the first bump board I was in has turned about to be one of the most amazing things in my life. I'm in a Facebook group with 70 other women and all of us 100% participate and support each other and we are always, always, always kind. A ton of us have met each other in real life, we're almost all Facebook friends and we know practically everything about eachother. It has seriously changed my experience with motherhood.

The people who were rude on the bump have not made it to the end with the rest of us because they are more concerned with having the right to be rude if they want to than CREATING a CULTURE of support and kindness. There were several people who continued to bring negativity to the Facebook group and we didn't support it and persisted with kindness and it wasn't the dramatic environment they needed and they left. The drama and the hate and the snarkiness doesn't have a place in the lives of the mothers of a newborn. It won't create real friendships.

I'm sorry, but just because The Bump is historically a place where mean girls come to play, why can't I hope that the culture could change?? Why can't I do my part to step in and tell people that I support them and am here to hear their stories? I've been an active bump member for a long time, and do you know what I think about people who randomly pop up one day and post when I don't know them? I think wow, they might be introverted and shy... they might be scared of how people will treat them after what they've seen in the past... but if there is something going on that made them excited enough or scared enough or confused enough to post in this environment then I know they need support. Maybe that post could have been the first step in a really active involvement here.

I don't want to argue and get on a soapbox but I just wish so badly that everyone would be supportive. That doesn't mean saying things you don't agree with but there are kinder and gentler ways to say things... and I really think we should support anyone who posts, whether it's their 100th or their 1st post... that person could actually end up being your real friend one day if you just show them compassion.

kiki75 · August 2017

Nobody needs you to white knight for them.

ETA: I've been around The Bump for well over a year. Shocker: I have Facebook friends I met through The Bump.

heatherdubrow · August 2017

@kitandcat I find this group to be incredibly supportive and kind. Some funny/snarky gifs don't negate that. I'm sorry you feel differently.

becausescience · August 2017

But why is it mean to tell somebody that science disagrees with them? @mdfarmchick is exactly right in explaining why a post like this could cause worry for other moms.

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