What should I do?

lund · August 2017

looeeze said:

**lurking from April**

If my body belongs to MH, how do I transfer this nausea over to him for a bit? I need a break.

OH WAIT that's not how bodies work.

Maybe it does if YH owns your body! Give that a shot!

missydallas · August 2017

@meatball37 - I'm a very firm believer of if you give an inch, you give a mile. If we start making exceptions for what religious beliefs we're allowed to question as a society, it slowly starts to turn into no one can question anything (as an extreme example). People used to get burned at the stake for heretics - and that was totally normal - but now everyone thinks it's wrong.

Same concept as letting a racist hate group hold a rally - do I support it? Nope. Do they have the right to free speech? Yep. If I take away their right, we could slowly all start losing our rights based on someone else's beliefs. I

'm perfectly allowed to think that someone's religious belief is "wrong" and not agree with it. Same as your allowed to think that walking around bare chested in NYC is unacceptable.

I really love that we can all have different opinions - but we're all working towards the same end goal (having a healthy baby).

ETA - adding paragraph breaks

meatballs37 · August 2017

antoto said:

meatball37 said:

antoto said:

@meatball37 and please note my ETA on my previous comment because I don't think that was very kind of you.

It's all good. I think people can still have a spicy debate here on TB and agree to disagree.

That's fine. I just want a fair argument. I don't think it's fair to accuse me of attacking a religious woman's right to wear whatever she wants. That is not even remotely true. I don't like people putting words in my mouth.

Please show me where I said YOU specifically were attacking a women's right to wear whatever she wants. I simply disagree with your argument. That does not equal attacking. If that were true the same could be stated for me.

meatballs37 · August 2017

Also, where the heck is the OP?

@missydallas I do see some of your points and they make sense. But someone dressing in a way that respects their religious beliefs is hardly contributing to the give an inch, take a mile
mentality.

And I mean absolutely no disrespect to others who think opposite of me. People should be allowed to dress however they feel comfortable in their own skin. And neither side should be made to feel wrong of for that. No matter the reason behind their choice. Unless it is a forced choice. Which I think an educator telling a student in a public school system would be (unless it was a dress code). Which is a whole other can of worms I suppose.

lalala2004 · August 2017

*lurking and GIFing before it's locked*

Don't get banned, ladies

.....

(most of you)

missydallas · August 2017

meatball37 said:

Also, where the heck is the OP?

@missydallas I do see some of your points and they make sense. But someone dressing in a way that respects their religious beliefs is hardly contributing to the give an inch, take a mile
mentality.

And I mean absolutely no disrespect to others who think opposite of me. People should be allowed to dress however they feel comfortable in their own skin. And neither side should be made to feel wrong of for that. No matter the reason behind their choice. Unless it is a forced choice. Which I think an educator telling a student in a public school system would be (unless it was a dress code). Which is a whole other can of worms I suppose.

OP threw a bomb and bailed

What I'm saying is people should be allowed to question religious beliefs they don't stand behind or think are harmful to our society. Questioning how someone dresses or the thought that your husband "owns" your body may seem out of the norm, since a lot of people accept this as their religious beliefs. HOWEVER - sometimes these beliefs can actually cause harm (say in an abusive relationship, as an extreme example). Which is why we should all question (in a respectful manner) things that we don't agree with - if we all stop questioning, who's going to stand up for people who are outside of the norm?

the_other_mother · August 2017

missydallas said:

meatball37 said:

Also, where the heck is the OP?

@missydallas I do see some of your points and they make sense. But someone dressing in a way that respects their religious beliefs is hardly contributing to the give an inch, take a mile
mentality.

And I mean absolutely no disrespect to others who think opposite of me. People should be allowed to dress however they feel comfortable in their own skin. And neither side should be made to feel wrong of for that. No matter the reason behind their choice. Unless it is a forced choice. Which I think an educator telling a student in a public school system would be (unless it was a dress code). Which is a whole other can of worms I suppose.

OP threw a bomb and bailed

What I'm saying is people should be allowed to question religious beliefs they don't stand behind or think are harmful to our society. Questioning how someone dresses or the thought that your husband "owns" your body may seem out of the norm, since a lot of people accept this as their religious beliefs. HOWEVER - sometimes these beliefs can actually cause harm (say in an abusive relationship, as an extreme example). Which is why we should all question (in a respectful manner) things that we don't agree with - if we all stop questioning, who's going to stand up for people who are outside of the norm?

What you're saying is totally fair. I think the original problem was not with someone questioning or disagreeing. It was from someone who mockingly laughed at another's beliefs. (Not you)

meatballs37 · August 2017

the_other_mother said:

missydallas said:

meatball37 said:

Also, where the heck is the OP?

@missydallas I do see some of your points and they make sense. But someone dressing in a way that respects their religious beliefs is hardly contributing to the give an inch, take a mile
mentality.

And I mean absolutely no disrespect to others who think opposite of me. People should be allowed to dress however they feel comfortable in their own skin. And neither side should be made to feel wrong of for that. No matter the reason behind their choice. Unless it is a forced choice. Which I think an educator telling a student in a public school system would be (unless it was a dress code). Which is a whole other can of worms I suppose.

OP threw a bomb and bailed

What I'm saying is people should be allowed to question religious beliefs they don't stand behind or think are harmful to our society. Questioning how someone dresses or the thought that your husband "owns" your body may seem out of the norm, since a lot of people accept this as their religious beliefs. HOWEVER - sometimes these beliefs can actually cause harm (say in an abusive relationship, as an extreme example). Which is why we should all question (in a respectful manner) things that we don't agree with - if we all stop questioning, who's going to stand up for people who are outside of the norm?

What you're saying is totally fair. I think the original problem was not with someone questioning or disagreeing. It was from someone who mockingly laughed at another's beliefs. (Not you)

^this

Cowboycorgi · August 2017

So this may be a moot point at this time, but I thought I would weigh in.

As a bisexual, I have never had my education distracted from by all my sexy classmates. I've seen boxer, briefs, thongs, and bras aplenty... and still went on to college where I could lure adventurous heterosexuals into makeout sessions. Don't worry, your sons and daughters would have been safe in my soft arms as I find consent to be incredibly hot! Also, the surprise is just as thrilling whether I am lifting a burka or a bikini. Wanna cover up? Cool, please wear a cardigan, sweaters are my fav! Wanna show some skin? Great, I'm partial to thick thighs! It honestly doesn't matter what you wear, if you and I are a thing, it will probably be in my sexy spank bank. Just facts.

Btw, I asked my husband, he said strong breezes were a distraction to him. So were thinking about tv shows, video games, waffles... it sounds like literally anything could give a high school boy a boner. He agreed that it didn't matter if the girl was wearing a moomoo (spelling?) or not, if he liked her that dress just because the sexiest thing the the world.

P.S. I honor my husband by making pancakes ever Sunday. Who doesn't wanna be honored with food? He honors me by letting me run the ceiling fan all night even though his feet turn to ice.

[Deleted User] · August 2017

I don't think human beings should be mocked but I don't see why concepts - religiously based or not- should be exempt. I mean I mock all kinds of things people take seriously like certain political parties or political stances. Why should I treat religious scripture differently? Why do religions get special treatment? I am asking this genuinely.

Eta I also take issue with you saying you weren't surprised that I allegedly missed your point. I haven't made any personal attacks on your intelligence and I don't think it's a particularly mature thing for you to insult mine. So side eye right back at ya.

[Deleted User] · August 2017

meatball37 said:

antoto said:

meatball37 said:

@antoto @pbtoast I am specifically referring to those comments who think its laughable that someone believes their body is not their own based on their religious beliefs. And yes shocker, Even their husband. I don't take it in a misogynistic or sexist way at all. Maybe it was poorly communicated in how that OP worded it. But I took it as a respect for your husband kind of way. Certainly not laughable. But I have a feeling that no matter how I explain this, there will be people who disagree. I was simply pointing out that telling people they are wrong in their religious beliefs is just as wrong as roping modesty on hormones into the same boat.

I'm not sure I accept that though. If there was a religion that advocated for human sacrifice would you tell them they are wrong for believing and doing that?

I don't believe any religion is magically exempt from critique.

And now I think you are missing the point. I'm not surprised. I mean come on, human sacrifice isn't even comparable to dressing in a way that respects your religious beliefs. Major eye roll here.

@meatball37 this is the part where I perceived you to suggest I was against freedom of religious dress.

[Deleted User] · August 2017

emwj10187 · August 2017

Im a total lurker from October 2017... But I'll just leave this here...

thanks for letting me post in your BMB. Congrats to you all!!

the_other_mother · August 2017

emwj10187 said:

Im a total lurker from October 2017... But I'll just leave this here...

thanks for letting me post in your BMB. Congrats to you all!!

I wish you hadn't done that, because with all these hormones I can hardly control myself. #turnon

meatballs37 · August 2017

antoto said:

meatball37 said:

antoto said:

meatball37 said:

@antoto @pbtoast I am specifically referring to those comments who think its laughable that someone believes their body is not their own based on their religious beliefs. And yes shocker, Even their husband. I don't take it in a misogynistic or sexist way at all. Maybe it was poorly communicated in how that OP worded it. But I took it as a respect for your husband kind of way. Certainly not laughable. But I have a feeling that no matter how I explain this, there will be people who disagree. I was simply pointing out that telling people they are wrong in their religious beliefs is just as wrong as roping modesty on hormones into the same boat.

I'm not sure I accept that though. If there was a religion that advocated for human sacrifice would you tell them they are wrong for believing and doing that?

I don't believe any religion is magically exempt from critique.

And now I think you are missing the point. I'm not surprised. I mean come on, human sacrifice isn't even comparable to dressing in a way that respects your religious beliefs. Major eye roll here.

@meatball37 this is the part where I perceived you to suggest I was against freedom of religious dress.

I'm sorry, that was not my intention. I only meant the comparison was not close to the same.

[Deleted User] · August 2017

<blockquote class="Quote">
<div><a rel="nofollow">ShawnnaO</a> said:</div>
<div>@BusinessWife <b>THAT GIF</b> </div>
</blockquote>
@NamelessAria gets full cred for that gem. ❤

zombiemom1318 · August 2017

https://gph.is/2daYV57

becausescience · August 2017

Man I take DD to PT and miss a ton. I think everything was pretty much taken care of... so this gif goes out to... well you know who you are.

Also how is this still open?

LiveNLove44 · August 2017

Enough people have already responded to OP in a way I can align, but the conversation that ensued is something else entirely. Conversations like this open our eyes to the diverse perspectives out there, to say the least.

I fiercely disagree with those who even remotely insinuate that the way a woman dresses should be tempered by considering "issues" that boys/men have(?) and their perceived lack of control over said issues. As a mother of a son and a daughter, I'd be appalled by someone who suggested to my son that he can't help his response to the way another person dresses, and I'd be equally so to hear someone tell my daughter that the way she dresses must be because she wants "that kind" of attention.

I thought I'd be able to get through a thoughtful response to these statements, but I really just can't. It is infuriating to think that there are people who adopt and adhere to this belief. My son will be taught to respect others. Period. My daughter will be taught to respect others. Period. Kudos to those of you who did a great job capturing the feelings I can't put into words. Lovetits all around.

kiki75 · August 2017

This thread needs more butt gifs.

[Deleted User] · August 2017

meatball37 said

antoto said:

meatball37 said:

antoto said:

meatball37 said:

@antoto @pbtoast I am specifically referring to those comments who think its laughable that someone believes their body is not their own based on their religious beliefs. And yes shocker, Even their husband. I don't take it in a misogynistic or sexist way at all. Maybe it was poorly communicated in how that OP worded it. But I took it as a respect for your husband kind of way. Certainly not laughable. But I have a feeling that no matter how I explain this, there will be people who disagree. I was simply pointing out that telling people they are wrong in their religious beliefs is just as wrong as roping modesty on hormones into the same boat.

I'm not sure I accept that though. If there was a religion that advocated for human sacrifice would you tell them they are wrong for believing and doing that?

I don't believe any religion is magically exempt from critique.

And now I think you are missing the point. I'm not surprised. I mean come on, human sacrifice isn't even comparable to dressing in a way that respects your religious beliefs. Major eye roll here.

@meatball37 this is the part where I perceived you to suggest I was against freedom of religious dress.

I'm sorry, that was not my intention. I only meant the comparison was not close to the same.

Yeah I just mean that I wasn't talking about religious dress at all, so when you said that you indicated that I was. So I just wanted to make that clear.

petethecat · August 2017

kiki75 said:

This thread needs more butt gifs.

Oh haaiii...

brutusnbodhi · August 2017

As far as boys/men struggling to control themselves when women are dressed provocatively: rape is not about attraction - it's about power and control and often caused by opportunity.

To make my point: (bear with me because this may seem crass at first but it's based on research)

who is more likely to be a victim of sexual assault?

a. A woman with short hair dressed in a revealing top and skin tight, sexy jeans

or

b. A woman with long hair dressed in a loose-fitting crew neck top and a long, flowy maxi skirt

Answer: B

why? Because 1. Long hair is easier to grab as a woman tries to run and makes it easier to control her throughout the assault and 2. Skin tight jeans are not easy to remove but a skirt, even a modest one, makes for easier access for the assault

But I don't generally look at women in maxi skirts and ponytails and claim they are "asking for it."

Cowboycorgi · August 2017

BusinessWife said:

Why did you have to go and give me a pregnant lady boner, @BusinessWife?!?

Gestational diabetes HERE I COME!

eggplantface · August 2017

Cowboycorgi said:

BusinessWife said:

Why did you have to go and give me a pregnant lady boner, @BusinessWife?!?

Gestational diabetes HERE I COME!

This wins the thread.

rainafire77 · August 2017

***Lurking from Feb18 like***

Gingermom15 · August 2017

BusinessWife said:

Looks like I'll be having waffles for dinner.

Gingermom15 · August 2017

*first gif isn't gifing

chasingroygbiv · August 2017

FYI OP just joined TB on July 27th. I'm saying troll/GBCB............

fullofhope25 · August 2017

Bwahahaha!

This post has actually made me (selfishlessly) happy! I was in such a jacked up mood, until reading the comments to this post!! This thread has given me life!!!!

Now, I'll get up and make dinner!

[Deleted User] · August 2017

Yeah I think we can all agree this was one of the most impressive trolls ever on TB.

Also holy cow I can't believe this thread hasn't gotten shut down yet. This has to be some sort of record.

DDRRT1982 · August 2017

So, any of you ladies that just kicked me out of the August 16 Facebook group want to tell me why? It's relevant to this post, since this post provoked our conversation over there.

rainafire77 · August 2017

bluejeanbabi05 · August 2017

*dirty October lurker*

Yes, August 16, please come and tell us why poor @DDRRT1982 got voted off the island!

[Deleted User] · August 2017

Wuuuuuut I wanna see some screenshots

cait5413 · August 2017

***********lurker*****

Image: https://media.giphy.com/media/aIKZNRCac0f5e/giphy.gif

Congrats, March, y'all are getting more and more famous across the BMBs. Thanks for spicing things up. And kudos to the troll--quite a success!

Way to go for the majority planning to raise respectful kids, regardless of sex or gender!

DDRRT1982 · August 2017

bluejeanbabi05 said:

*dirty October lurker*

Yes, August 16, please come and tell us why poor @DDRRT1982 got voted off the island!

Ya, I am waiting...

fullofhope25 · August 2017

This reminds me... I really need to step my gif game up. #CarryOn

kmalls · August 2017

DDRRT1982 said:

So, any of you ladies that just kicked me out of the August 16 Facebook group want to tell me why? It's relevant to this post, since this post provoked our conversation over there.

babybluu · August 2017

I honestly feel honored to be part of this board

*insert eye batting gif*

i need to learn to gif

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