Anyone doing IVF in July/August?

dragonette505 · July 2017

@marioana99 WHEW! I'm telling you, meds delivery stress is terrible. Last order I thought they didn't pack my Omnitrope and I flipped! lol. turns out they packed it with some extra menopurs and I didn't recognize it! I thought I'd lost 800 bucks worth of meds! I bet they were glad to get off the phone with me!

@bababatty we absolutely have shot stress. We have ditched those q caps because neither of us can use them properly... I guess we are old skool and my DH is better drawing up the meds freehand!

Hopeful_mom · July 2017

dragonette505 the first cycle i primed for at least 2 weeks and didn't get any normies from that cycle. Was that the reason? Who knows but I don't want to risk it so I think I'm going to wait till thursday and put it on. hate that i'm rushing this summer away. Yes you are correct I am now up to 5, will love getting it up to 6 or 7 before soon

allycheer00 I can't tell you how much sleep I've lost just over the pgs, and all the articles and threads even here. There are so many different opinions and studies that show both sides. Do I want to implant abnormal embroys not after everything I went through BUT there are live healthy births that come out of them too so its such a hard decision! I'm thrilled I stuck with my gut and had them retest now. The one cycle they were all abnormal I really wanted retested as well because I just feel that at least one shouldve been normal...so who knows. My RE feels that will be a last resort. It all cost $$ too so I can't argue that much. You want to deal with the ones that were normal on the first try too!

Bababatty good luck stemming! Only a couple of arguments thats awesome! I used to need a good 1/2hr to get my meds down first starting...you'll see how much easier it gets as the days go on. I hated shots and needles...and I certainly dont like them but you do what u gotta do.

Momifbysea the stress and depression I might add was bad!(TW) OH really wanted me to take a break if this is how I'm going to be...act like I'm MC'ing everyday, nice right! I probably cried everyday for a week, in the shower you name it...so I'm sure its hard for some one to listen too(TW) It takes a toll on you as a person let a lone a relationship. I do hope your golden batch is on its way!

marioana99 hmmmm I would check on the shipping too. I've left the package out longer then expected and everything was still cool...granted they weren't sitting in a hot car either....curious what the nurse tells you.

allycheer00 · July 2017

Update: So, late fertilization is definitely a thing...I had for more eggs fertilize for a total of 9 out of 12! I was shaking when I saw the clinics number pop up because they weren't supposed to call until tomorrow. I feel so much better.

dragonette505 · July 2017

@allycheer00 YAAAAS that's awesome! Cant ask for more than that!
@Hopeful_mom Ok... that does seem like a long time for priming!

Hopeful_mom · July 2017

allycheer00 woo hoo thats awesome congrats!! Don't be discouraged if they all aren't blasts by day 5...they might need that extra day now. Very happy for you, ugh this emotional roller coaster, right!

dragonette505 I"m sure 2/3 days isn't much priming but I'm trying not to do too much of it soooo we shall see if I'm timing this right, I love that I"ll have to let my RE know what i'm doing when AF comes. I'm the one that really mentioned the EPP to her, my E2 was technically ok so she really didn't think I needed too much of it anyway...we shall see. Its hard when we keep trying to figure out what to do next. You want to try something else but since i did get a normie this way we felt we should stick with it.

Holls214 · July 2017

@allycheer00 yay!!! So happy for you!

Aera11 · July 2017

@dragonette505 oh I'll keep ya posted

where are you at right now? I've been trying to read back through but there are so many posts I have to literally make notes to remember who's doing what haha. I go in tomorrow for CD2 blood, u/s & to learn how to give the HGH shot. It's still subcu so I think it'll be fine, but still.

@Hopeful_momYAY for FIVE normies! Where are you at right now in your next cycle? I am so hoping you get more and can move onto your transfer!

@megmac2010 my headaches usually kick in by CD 5 or 6 and it's horrible, lots and lots of water! Acupuncture helps mine too, not sure if you do it or not.

I don't know if anyone has watched Friends From College on Netflix (it's kind of stupid funny) but I had no idea there was a side infertility story within it and DH and I thought it was probably the most accurate depiction of IVF we've seen on TV. It's still over dramatized but it's funny and so true to what we've both experienced. It made us laugh and hurt for them because we understood so well, and I hope it allows other people to see what some of us have to go through.

Aera11 · July 2017

@allycheer00 those are great numbers!! Congrats

helloworld9 · July 2017

Wow I missed a lot of updates!

@allycheer00 - That is great!! I hope a lot make it to blast.

@dragonette505 - I ditched the q caps too. They were wasting too much expensive medicine! The old fashioned needle does it best.

@marioana99 - Good luck with your ER!!

@Bababatty - Yay for stims! I hope you get a lot of follicles!

@Hopeful_mom - Wow, 4 back to back cycles! You must be in the marine corps or something! That's amazing you got those embryos banked.

@megmac2010 - When I was stimming all I felt was tired. Just so tired all the time, at work, at home... I hope you get a ton of follicles!

@Dwmmwd - 13 fertilized, that's awesome! Hopefully a lot make it to blast.

@Aera11 - Good luck on your IVF!!

AFM - My AF started today, which is 10 days after my ER. I thought that was early but apparently it's not? Anyway, because I have a previously scheduled Euro trip booked at the end of August and hitting into Labor Day, I had to make the tough choice to push my FET until October (2 cycles from now, skipping the months of August and September). The nurse says I can go on BCP all the way until I come back from vacation, but I figure it's not really worth saving those couple of weeks. Besides, am I crazy to think that I should try the "old fashioned way" for these 2 cycles and see? It's so stupid to go back to OPKs and such, but a part of me still holds out hope, although the chances are almost nil.

[Deleted User] · July 2017

@helloworld9 I know someone who did IVF and got two beautiful healthy boy embryos to freeze. Then she took a break planning to transfer in August...

*TW*
<div class=" Spoiler">...and instead they got pregnant naturally after her ER cycle!</div>
It can totally happen. ❤

gfgrump · July 2017

@marioana99 man what unnecessary stress. As of this whole process wasn't stressful enough. It sounds like it's all getting worked out though so that's great news.

@Hopeful_mom that's amazing! Congrats on that. So you're hoping to transfer next month?

I think the whole IF crap, while it can make your relationship stronger, definitely takes its toll too. We've had our fair share of fights through all this. With the meds i just let him do it all and then inject me. Seems to work pretty well. My job is just to endure the shots and clean my skin. The times when i did get involved things got testy, so i stopped.

Afm nothing to report. Went up to wine country today. A nice little escape. But ended up talking with these two women about ivf and pregnancy loss and stuff. I feel like none of my good friends have had loss or even trouble getting pregnant, and i feel like why mem why am i the only one? But then of course you talk to other people and there's loss all over the place. I guess it was just a good reminder that its not just me.

Hopeful_mom · July 2017

Aera11 AF arrived for you woohoo!! lets get the party started! I'm waiting on AF, gonna start priming on thurs. as I feel like AF should come on the weekend. Yes I'm looking forward to adding to my golden batch!
I hear ya on trying to catch up and not missing some. Since i came to this party a bit later on I actually had 2 windows open trying to take notes so i wouldn't lose my thoughts

I do want to watch that show and now i'm more curious about it.

BusinessWife thats spoiler was awesome - u fancy! How far long is she? wonder if its a girl

so great! love hearing things like that!

helloworld9 ha!! I feel like this is my job and i should be getting paid $$

I think its great to try naturally, you just never know! good luck! when do your results come in?

[Deleted User] · July 2017

@Hopeful_mom. They wondered the same thing! Lol
<div class=" Spoiler">Turns out it's a boy too! Hilarious right? They are over the moon. ;)</div>
<b>Hey, I have a question</b> - since we have some seasoned ivfers in the group, has anyone cycled with low-dose HCG? I was told to order my meds as close as possible to when I need to start bc it has a short shelf-life, since it's compounded. Just wondering if anyone here had some experience with that.

I got EWCM yesterday... on CD5. :worried: so after a very. Long time, I broke out the bbt this morning so AF doesn't sneak up on me! Hoping to get meds ordered like they said, as close as possible. :#

marioana99 · July 2017

@helloworld9 I do the same thing.Whenever I am in a break month I try the natural way. You never know right?

On my side I just did my us, a 19, 14.6 and a 13. So probably one more day of stimming and hopefully triggering tomorrow. I really hoped it will be today, so I get too ER on Friday. I realized with the retrievals I am almost like a kid hoping to get sick so he can skip school, just with me is having a retrieval so I can skip work

. I will know for sure this afternoon after they get my bw but last IVF when I got to 19mm the RE wanted to wait one more day just that my LH started to rise. This time I think I am fine, I did OPK every day since Saturday and all of them have a faint line which means LH is around 2.5 (at least this was the value on Monday).

Hopeful_mom · July 2017

marioana99 ha! For me I'm more worried about you my RE is the day on ER as my clinics dr rotate and for me my RE is my lucky charm so i need that rotation to keep working! I do think your RE will want you to wait to trigger one more day for sure, we want that 13 to get a bit bigger!! excited you're so close!

BusinessWife thats hilarious!! talk about really being meant to be huh!! As for the hcg I haven't actually used that while stemming, I used something else that didn't have a long shelf life and one was for 2 weeks and the other for a month. Are you taking it through your whole cycle? Technically you don't start taking meds till day 2 of your cycle so you could still get them to overnight it if it needs to be that close? Not ideal but it does work.

dragonette505 · July 2017

@Hopeful_mom I dont think priming is always necessary. My doc says it can give your ovaries a break (since you are supplementing estrogen) before you start hardcore stimming. But lots of folks do fine without it
@Aera11 Im waiting to ovulate then priming before my next AF! Im really psyched for you this cycle!
@helloworld9 i think 10 days post retrieval is pretty normal since its essentially 12 days past triggering, so like a normal 12 day LP.
@Dwmmwd Bingo with the shots, the moment i get more involved than icing and cleaning the site things get iffy! lol I think its already so stressful then there i am pecking at him (or freaking out sometimes! lol)
@BusinessWife I feel like recently a gal on one of our threads used low dose hcg... if i can remember which one i'll tell you.
@marioana99 Im generally hoping to get my retrieval on a weekend, but i know what you mean.... Friday is also awesome because you have more days to relax after! FC you trigger soon!

marioana99 · July 2017

@hopeful_mom I never got my RE to do the ER. 4 times and it was always some other doctor.

@dragonette505 I have 10 days per year of sick time from the company, and I never get sick, so I am super fine if it's during the week, as I can use them and have an extra day off

gfgrump · July 2017

I also know someone who was doing ivf and then on the off month for pregnant. And she was 40 and is now 8 months preggers. So it definitely happens. I think if you dont have a reason to go on bcp, then why do it? Unless your doctor is like trying to calm your ovaries down or something. Or painful periods? Or maybe you can better schedule things? I guess other reasons too.

@marioana99 i hope the trigger is soon. Fx for that 13 pulling through. Ive also literally never seven my RE unless I have an appt with him. Its always another doctor or for a lot if the US it was a n.p. but I'm at a big teaching hospital and it's kind of a factory in there. The worst is when they bring in new docs who can barely find my ovaries.

funkykey · July 2017

OMG, some of these pharmacy stories sound awful. So so stressful! @marioana99 - I would have been freaking out!

But I must say, @dragonette505 & @Bababatty - I feel very "in the know" knowing all about the best pharmacies in Manhattan to get fertility meds. LOL.

@marioana99 - keeping everything super crossed for you - really hoping these follies give you beautiful mature eggs!

@Aera11 - keeping FX for you this round!! I've been trying to watch Friends from College, but I'm finding that IVF husband so unsympathetic - he seems like such an immature jerk! The cheating does not help.

@megmac2010 - keeping FX for you too!

@Hopeful_mom - so thrilled about normie #5! Yey!

@allycheer00 - wonderful news re: the others fertilizing!

@BusinessWife - I love stories like that!

@helloworld9 - oh man, I'd definitely try the old fashioned way. I hope you have a wonderful, relaxing time in Europe and enjoy yourself! A big trip after IVF is well-deserved!!!

@Dwmmwd - great news re: the fertilized! FX!

My H really wanted to help with the meds and got so mad at me one morning when I woke up before him and started preparing the shot. He was like: "This is all I can do to help! I just want to help!" Which was pretty sweet. So he did most of the shots too, except the mornings I did them after bloodwork at the clinic.

Your wine country trip sounds lovely! So important to get a change of scenery sometimes!

Some friends from out of town were visiting the other day, and I realized, talking to them, how different our lives are (we maybe see them once every 2-3 years). Our friends are from a small rural town, and we live in a city, so things like accessing healthcare are an issue for them - like, even if they had IF problems, getting to a clinic would be brutal, whereas for us, it's not a big deal... Anyway, it made me think - in so many areas of my life, I'm obscenely lucky, and sometimes I forget how much some people struggle for things that have been handed to me on a silver platter. Which is not to say that I haven't struggled or worked hard or experienced pain, of course I have, it's just - it strikes me that there is a lot of pain and loss out there in general, not just with IF.

I mean, I'm obviously not super zen and perfect. I've had lots of nights where I've felt so sorry for myself. I cry about IF all the time. But, as my husband points out, even though this is a struggle and it's shitty and hard, let's not forget that I'm wiping tears away with my manicured hands. It could be a LOT worse for me, you know? My life could be a lot shittier!

AFM: AF is here, so I've scheduled my hysteroscopy for the end of next week. If that goes well - which I hope it does! - we'll be able to do our FET around Labor Day. I'm really hoping they resolve this polyp issue next week, and that I don't have to go for a more major surgery.

Hopeful_mom · July 2017

funkykey Its good to have reminders! And i'm glad you have a loving and understanding DH, those are hard to come by especially though this process. I remember my mom as a kid would show me a telethon for kids with MS and so on. Explaining these really are kids with problems...not for whatever nonsense I was crying over at the time. Did it make me feel better, not really, but I got the point. We have our day but its good reminders too. I pray as going through this, that this will be the toughest struggle and then I get to have my healthy babies and they get to have good healthy lives because of it, u know. Good luck with the polyp. I think labor day sounds great!

dragonette505 · July 2017

BusinessWife said:

@Hopeful_mom. They wondered the same thing! Lol
Turns out it's a boy too! Hilarious right? They are over the moon.

Hey, I have a question - since we have some seasoned ivfers in the group, has anyone cycled with low-dose HCG? I was told to order my meds as close as possible to when I need to start bc it has a short shelf-life, since it's compounded. Just wondering if anyone here had some experience with that.

I got EWCM yesterday... on CD5. so after a very. Long time, I broke out the bbt this morning so AF doesn't sneak up on me! Hoping to get meds ordered like they said, as close as possible.

PS I Just did a quickie search and a bumper called sp128 said she used low dose HCG in her last IVF cycle.... maybe you could pm her and see how she used it?

funkykey · July 2017

Hopeful_mom said:

I remember my mom as a kid would show me a telethon for kids with MS and so on. Explaining these really are kids with problems...not for whatever nonsense I was crying over at the time. Did it make me feel better, not really, but I got the point.

Haha - exactly. Like I don't always like hearing it, and when the wound is fresh, I'm like: "f*ck off", but in my more sober moments, when I haven't just received more bad news from the clinic, I think, you know, we all have our trials - and I'm not the first person who has struggled, nor will I be the last.

But yeah, right when you're dealing with something fresh, who needs that reminder?! LOL.

Aera11 · July 2017

...anddddddd I'm back in limbo. My ultrasound showed cyst that had an echo(?) so I had to wait for the blood results & my estradiol was a bit too high. They said I could move forward but I might no respond well & what a waste of the omnitrope...so I'm on bcp for two weeks to see if it'll go back down. Sigh. So I'll move over to the august thread.

@funkykey yeah her husband isn't super supportive but I'm glad he stays to lay with her when she said she was tired. I think if there wasn't any cheating, he'd just seem naive to what she's going through.

dragonette505 · July 2017

@Aera11 Is there an August thread? I feel like this one is kinda both! lol... I'm basically an August girl too! Sorry you are bumped back (that was totally me two weeks ago when i thought i would be starting and i was put back on the bench). I def wouldnt waste that Omnitrope on a possible non respond cycle!! Ugh...cysts are a beast

So bummed!

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<div class="QuoteText">@Hopeful_mom. They wondered the same thing! Lol
<div class=" Spoiler">Turns out it's a boy too! Hilarious right? They are over the moon. ;)</div>
<b>Hey, I have a question</b> - since we have some seasoned ivfers in the group, has anyone cycled with low-dose HCG? I was told to order my meds as close as possible to when I need to start bc it has a short shelf-life, since it's compounded. Just wondering if anyone here had some experience with that.

I got EWCM yesterday... on CD5. :worried: so after a very. Long time, I broke out the bbt this morning so AF doesn't sneak up on me! Hoping to get meds ordered like they said, as close as possible. :#</div>
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PS I Just did a quickie search and a bumper called sp128 said she used low dose HCG in her last IVF cycle.... maybe you could pm her and see how she used it?</div>
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Oh, cool! Thanks - I will totally PM her later! ;)

Hopeful_mom · July 2017

BusinessWife I knew I read it somewhere...shes awesome I just cycle'd with her in June ivf.

@Aera11 ugh the dreaded cyst, sorry to hear hope it goes away quickly! DOn't get anywhere this is the summer board. I conquer with dragonette505. When I started so many moons ago IVF boards rain 2 months...by the time you start stemming and make it to ER many overlap 2 months. It always made more sense to me!!

funkykey 100%

baker+RN · July 2017

So I ended up with moderate OHSS despite all my prep and luckily didn't need paracentesis. Symptoms (8lb weight gain in 6 days, bloating, pain, shortness of breath, heartburn - no, firebreathing, diarrhea, gas) had dissipated mostly by yesterday (3dp5dt), but as of today the bloat and tender belly have returned with chest tightness and angry nips!... So, FX that this foreshadows a BFP on Monday. Enjoyed my little break from guzzling Gatorade but since the fluid is returning, so is THE THIRST QUENCHER lol. I know the embryo doesn't have ears yet but I'm playing it music anyway. I think between the progesterone supps and the news that all the rest of our embryos stopped growing I'm starting to get into my own head a bit too much and feeing down. DH is not feeling optimistic about the transferred embryo since the others arrested. So I'm trying to keep up with what's going on here but it's hard. I either feel super hopeful or hopeless.

Anyway, for the rest of y'all- Positive vibes, sticky baby dust, and plentiful ERs all around!

dragonette505 · July 2017

@baker+RN lucky you didn't need meds! I had to take meds for my moderate ohss last cycle. Sometimes the bloating at this stage comes from the estrogen and progesterone. Along with the ohss it can make you uncomfortable. Hopefully it's not too bad

Hopeful_mom · July 2017

baker+RN ugh that bloat is awful...I constantly feel that way...but hopefully that belly is just gonna grow and grow for the next 9 months

I understand you're feeling down and its understandable! BUT remember you ARE PUPO. SO why not try to enjoy it! I will also mention that some embryos just grow better inside the uterus, their natural environment, why they even do 3dt. Hope you start to feel better with each day!

helloworld9 · July 2017

@BusinessWife - Wow I can only dream to be so lucky. Good for your friend!

@Dwmmwd - I feel the same way. It's such a lonely experience. And almost shameful even. Like if you bring up something so vulnerable such as loss and infertility, only to get bingo-ed like "oh it will happen", then it makes you feel like a complete fool. That has happened to me once before and I learned my lesson the hard way. And absolutely my reasoning on BCP, I don't want to take it unnecessarily and the nurse told me the only reason I would for FET is to time around my vacation, which I think isn't a great reason to be on them. And that's a great story about your friend too! So blessed.

@Hopeful_mom - My PGS results should come in Friday earliest... we will see. Right now I have 6 frozen so I'm realllllly hoping for some more good news! I would be devastated if none are euploid.

@marioana99 - So close to trigger! So exciting. And yes, I figure better not waste a month not tracking haha.

@funkykey - I agree about counting our blessings. There are a lot of areas in life where I'm blessed and I shouldn't forget about that. Sometimes the IF journey is so hard and long, it's a beat down. But you do raise some good points! I hope those polyps don't hinder your FET! I have high hopes for you.

@Aera11 - Oh no! I hope next month it will be the all clear.

@baker+RN - OHSS is the pits! And I really hope that little embryo in you is it!!

Aera11 · July 2017

@dragonette505 haha I guess there isn't an august board! This one will just go on forever I guess. I'm definitely not wasting the omnitrope! It was $1000 so helllllllll no! Maybe we'll be cycle buddies

@Hopeful_mom yeah, one round is easily 4-8 weeks!

Oh no @baker+rn, hoping for a quick recovery AND a bfp!!!

Holls214 · July 2017

@baker+RN sorry to hear about the ohss. I had it also and it stunk. So much Gatorade. I haven't been able to drink one since lol. Fingers crossed for a bfp.
@Aera11 I'm august too and am staying here.

sorry to hear about your cyst. Hopefully it clears up for you.
@BusinessWife sp128 is very sweet (from board communication) hopefully she can help you out.
AFM I stopped BC yesterday and start estrogen pills on Friday. Picked up my PIO today too. Over $100 for a 20 day supply argh. I hate how we have no coverage for any of this. Wishing I had a money tree in my yard.

dragonette505 · July 2017

@Aera11 yeah for sure don't waste that omnitrope! Lol mine was 760 or something like that.... wonder about the diff in pricing. I think my insurance charged me the lowest price in my area (which was apparently the ever popular Apthorp I think) so maybe it's just due to that! If it was me I'd be trying to order from NY to get our lower price!
Hoping we will be cycle buddies!
@Holls214 yay for another August! Not sure when I start priming, but hope to catch up to you

lol
ps I think the prices for iui and ivf are outrageous.... it's clearly not a luxury. We all ought to be getting at least a few cycles for free.

Aera11 · July 2017

@Holls214 are you doing a FET in august? Ugh all fertility costs get me so fired up. Infertility is a medical condition that should be covered! I've never done PIO but just the 30 day supply of crinone/progesterone gel was $100.

@dragonette505 I got 3 vials for just over $1000. It sounded like an okay deal, most of my meds are from freedom but these came from MDR in New York/jersey & they were morons. They sent me another customers tracking info four times. I got my meds & hopefully won't need to again. Even if this next round fails, I'll likely remove the omnitrope so I won't have to worry about using them again. I learned how to mix it today so I'm getting excited to get the ball rolling, c'mon august!!

Holls214 · July 2017

@Aera11 yes we are! Potential FET date is august 17th. Hopefully everything will go as planned. We will be doing 1 PGS tested embryo. Yes the fact that infertility isn't looked at as a medical condition is shocking... when is your potential date? And @dragonette505 when is yours?

Hopeful_mom · July 2017

Holls214 it makes me so angry that infertility isn't considered a medical condition..its so ridiculous!! How many vials did you get for $100 for PIO? I got 2 vials and was told it should last 6 days when I start it for FET, so I'm hoping I really won't need too much more of it.

Bababatty dragonette505 did you ladies find PIO cheaper then $50 a vial in NY? Just in case I have to get more.

marioana99 · July 2017

I am not a great company today, just wanted to give you my update...
The nurse called me yesterday that my LH jumped to 11, and we will go one more day and see. I asked her if I should take 2 ganirelix but she said no, it could hurt more than it would help. Tested with OPK last night and this morning and the test line was almost as dark as the control line. So I might not make it to retrieval. And this morning us showed a 20, 16 and 13 , so the 13 one stopped growing and we waited one more day for nothing...
At this point all I want is to crawl into a corner and cry, but hey I am at work and life goes on...

funkykey · July 2017

@marioana99 - so sorry. Sending you lots of love.

Aera11 · July 2017

@Holls214 that's soooo exciting to have s date! It makes it more real. Monday august 7th will hopefully be my last day on the pill as long as my cyst is cleared up. I'm considering staying a few days longer on the pill so I can go up north when my sister and her fiancé come into town...at this point, what's four more days? So if I can plan out the way I want (because that always works out haha), I'd start AF on august 16th. I get my period 4-5 days after stopping the pill so I can usually time things out pretty well.

@marioana99 I'm so sorry

sending hugs

dragonette505 · July 2017

@marioana99 UGH! So stressful!! Why are they not triggering you now, i wonder?
@Hopeful_mom I havent had to do PIO yet... i have the yucky suppositories (I guess because they are dirt cheap!)lol
@Aera11 No, thats super cheap for three! I'm only doing 2 vials so you got a great price for three... thats about 50 bucks cheaper per vial than i got. Unless this cycle goes horribly, i will def use it again I think...
@Holls214 Honestly im not sure... I sort of expect AF around Aug 14th or so.... if nothing sidelines me i should begin stimming around the 16th I guess.... I am still not sure if we are going to try for a fresh transfer or just do a freeze all and then do another cycle for banking.

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