Anyone doing IVF in July/August?

Hopeful_mom · July 2017

funkykey i certainly understand your feelings! Congrats on the 4 pulling through!! Are you doing PGS? sorry I don't remember. I wish we could find the answers why they all don't make it through! Thats very interesting about the sperm after day 3...I'm always told its an egg issue. The research I found was from the second of fertilization the egg knows whether its going to make it or not. My 4th cycle after the MC I got 10, 7 fert and only 3 made it through and I was very confused by it all as you...I'll add in I was quite angry as well, but it goes to show you its quality over quantity! Its really such a surreal process! I also dont think I'm a super religious person but I do find myself praying all the time wondering if he's mad I keep asking for the same thing. How are you feeling overall?

funkykey · July 2017

@Hopeful_mom - I am feeling amazing. I feel like I've just been saved, or like I've escaped a prison and am floating in the sea, or like I escaped death - and I'm not even pregnant! I don't even have a baby!

You know, this journey is so brutal - it's made me jaded and cynical and very dark. I've felt so hopeless, and I've had moments where I've just had so much hate. On these boards, it's not so bad, but sometimes IRL, I can't even go outside. I hear all these people talking about their families and their beautiful, healthy babies, and I just think: "you have no idea how punishing life can be."

I guess I was really losing hope. When they called and said only one had made it to blast on day 5, I just thought that was it for us. I thought it was over. I'm young-ish, and we're not only unexplained, but everything has looked perfect so many times -my H's SAs, all my hormone levels and my ovaries and uterine lining - they have no idea why we've tried so many times and I've never been pregnant; there's nothing to indicate I might have an egg quality issue (I think if there's something to indicate an egg issue, that's when they offer that as an explanation). So after the day 5 call, I just thought: "That's why it's happening - we can't make it to blast. That's why I'm never pregnant, there's something wrong with our DNA."

I think I'd just started to expect bad news, because we've had so much bad news all through this, and people keep telling us: "This should be a snap, for you two!" And it certainly has not been.

So getting the call today and being told we had more embryos than I'd hoped for, it makes me feel like one day, we just might actually have our own baby. I feel more hopeful than I've felt in a year!

I mean, I know I'm not the only person here who's had a hard time getting up in the morning, or who's had serious cause to question their faith and their hopes for the future - I know everyone here has probably had some very dark moments, where they just didn't think they could keep going. This whole saga is so profoundly unfair, and it's a kind of torture, and I wish we never had to go through any of this. I guess we just keep doing it because we still have hope, and just when my hope was waning, I got the news that 3 more embryos had made it to blast, so I'm totally thrilled! I feel like I can keep going!

Hoping other people get good news in the coming days!!! I'm feeling very optimistic for all of us! Summer 2017 is a beautiful time!

baker+RN · July 2017

@funkykey that's amazing news and I'm so happy for you!

good luck with the transfer!!

AFM- 4 of our embryos are dividing and developing as expected, 3 are a tad behind at the 5-cell stage but the embryologist said they still have a chance to catch up. I'm getting more bloated and uncomfortable as the week wears on so I'm hoping even more that we make it to blast stage and can freeze so my body can chill out a minute. Keeping on top of the pain meds, staying close to my heating pad, guzzling Gatorade (increased that to a gallon a day - yuck), adding in protein bars, and bought the saltiest soups I could find at the corner store. Some shortness of breath when moving around, and that feeling of my organs floating and adjusting when I turn side to side is otherworldly

Hope everyone else is having a good day!

Holls214 · July 2017

@funkykey I'm so thrilled for you that 3 more made it to the party. So sorry that must have been so stressful. Now I hope you have a sigh of relief. My husband took fertilaide and that helped his sperm a lot. Are you doing PGS testing?

funkykey · July 2017

@Holls214 - no PGS testing - they said they'd recommend it if I were older, but that it wouldn't make that much of a difference in MC rates for me - we're definitely taking a risk in not doing, but a calculated one.

Now that the others pulled through, my H is like: "Honey, I'm pretty sure the DNA in my sperm is fine", so that lays that particular fear to rest... at least for now!

[Deleted User] · July 2017

Congratulations!!! @funkykey. Thank God!!!! So so happy and relieved for you, too!!!

@baker+RN Congratulations! So happy things are progressing well for you, too!

DHs procedure final countdown is on... in just over 12 hours, he'll be under the knife, and within about another hour or so later.... we should know yay or nay. No pressure. :#

gfgrump · July 2017

Wow @BusinessWife crossing everything for you. I really hope you get good news.

@funkykey wow. 3 more on day 6! Thats great news. So hopefully transferring next month?
I feel like they always point to egg quality and never say its sperm. Thats interesting about the day 3 thing. I want to research that. Since we do freeze all for pgd, they didnt actually give me day 3 numbers. But I also went from 10 fert to 3 blasts. So not sure what we were in the middle.

@baker+rn the bloating seriously sux! Im wearing my overalls or sweats.

AFM had another monitoring appy this morning. All still moving along. I think about 18 follies with about 8 that are above the mature line. I go back again tom and hopefully theyll have me trigger tom night. I feel so bloated i feel like im waddling around.

bionerdsteph · July 2017

@funkykey congrats on the 4 pulling through!

@baker+RN yeah! Keep going little embryos. I'm with you about wanting more info. I'm a biologist (immuno oncology drug discovery) and I'm used to understanding what's going on more & I don't feel like I'm getting enough info from the clinic even though we chose this one partially bc they seeemed more forthcoming with info. I've been researching everything IVF but it seems like there isn't that great of data out there & it's "experience" for what works best. So frustrating.

I lost track of who said it but it does seem like the number of eggs produced/retrieved dictates how bad the recovery will be. It makes sense too since more eggs = more swelling that has to go down.

AFM I've been trying not to think about things until we had our post cycle consult with the Dr today. I'm a bit frustrated. So going into egg retrieval we had a plan to culture everything to blast if there were 6 or more day 3 embryos. We got 22 eggs, 15 mature, 13 fertilized, 11 made it to day 3. They froze everything then because only one was classified as good- the Dr did not talk about classification as a criteria for moving on. It was written on the ER paper work we signed day of and my bad for not paying enough attention. Well we had 1 good, 6 average and 4 poor day 3 embryos which seems not too bad & I'm kind of pissed they weren't cultured to blast. We talked to the Dr today and he kept saying how chemo had affected the quality but there are NO studies I can find that back that up ( my chemos do affect reserve but not usually long term egg quality) and the results don't seem that out of line for some of my age (36 almost 37) that hasn't gone through chemo. Anyway then he says because of the lack of quality & my age he'd recommend implanting 4 embryos. I was immediately "you are insane". Am I wrong to think 4 average to good day 3 embryos is a lot? We're leaning towards transferring the 2 best & if that doesn't work thawing the rest & culturing them to blast. Sorry for the long post!

megmac2010 · July 2017

@funkykey what a relief!! I'm so happy for you and your 4 embryos on ice!

helloworld9 · July 2017

@funkeykey - That's amazing 3 pulled through so 4 total! I'm also waiting for day 6 results tomorrow. I had 1 frozen at day 5 (today) and needless to say I was so worried for the rest. I had 10 on day 3. The embryologist told me today she thinks I could have a few, whatever that could mean. I hope I could be so lucky to have our embryos pull through. I am so happy that you are feeling happier now. I too have been through some dark moments. We are very much alike, with unexplained diagnosis, and from the outset, very healthy individuals. I've been through moments where I'm in the grocery store behind a mom with a gaggle of five kids and I think to myself, why is the world so cruel.

@baker+RN - The post ER recovery has been tough for me too! I started feeling better probably around day 4 post ER. I'm surprised you can drink a gallon of Gatorade a day! I had to quit after 3 days. I couldn't handle the taste anymore!

@Dwmmwd - 18 is great! Let's hope more come around!

@bionerdsteph - I asked my clinic about freezing day 3s and they told me they don't do that. That's interesting your clinic did that. Maybe they find that better, I don't know.

funkykey · July 2017

Thanks guys!!

@baker+RN - exciting! Hope everything goes well these next couple of days!

@BusinessWife - I am so thrilled for you! Good luck to you and your DH tomorrow!! FX for a smooth procedure and a happy result!

@Dwmmwd - I can't speak for everyone, but definitely for me my clinic is not approaching it like egg quality is an issue any more than sperm quality could be, and I was surprised when the embryologist told me about the oocyte to day 3 and then both dna to day 5... In all the reading I do, it's like: "eggs from women over 35 are more likely to have chromosomal abnormalities" or whatever, so maybe because I'm on the younger side of that and my AMH is ok, they're not treating me like that?

(Though, I've got to say, sometimes that 35 marker seems so... arbitrary, even though it's everywhere. Apparently my clinic has better success rates with women over 35 than women under 35. My RE was like: "with women who are over 35, chances are there are good eggs, we just need to find them, and it's an egg quality issue. With couples who are under 35, usually there are other problems and the fix isn't as straightforward." I was like: "I want in your higher success bracket."

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I'll transfer in early Sept., I hope! I was supposed to do a fresh but they decided to freeze all and make me wait out a cycle because they noticed a polyp on my uterine lining at my last u/s before the ER. So I have to deal with that before I can move on. Ah well.

Holy crow - 18 follies with 8 mature is awesome!!!! FX for you!!!!

@bionerdsteph - Um, there is no way in hell I would ever implant 4 embryos. That's some octomom shit right there. That is a lot! And I'd be skeptical too, and frustrated with them not being cultured to blast. I think your plan - to transfer the two best first - is solid. I'm not sure about thawing the rest and culturing to blast, unless you were going to do a fresh transfer with them- freezing twice might be tricky.

I actually had asked my RE to transfer some of our sketchy-looking embryos on day 3, like the ones they thought weren't going to make it (I was mostly joking), and he said, basically: "Absolutely not. Our goal is one healthy pregnancy at a time." And then he talked about survival of the fittest, etc.

@helloworld9 - I am praying for you! I hope you get a couple more tomorrow!!! I was a mess when I only had one on day 5 (as you can see...) so I totally hear you - but odds are, a couple will definitely pull through, if you had 10 on day 3! Good luck!!! I'm sending you all my good blast-vibes!!!!!

baker+RN · July 2017

@BusinessWife good luck with your husband's procedure! FX!!

@Dwmmwd seriously the waddle game is strong! GL pulling the trigger!

@bionerdsteph um implant 4?! That sounds very much insane - but I'm new at all this, so maybe in your scenario it makes sense somehow?... but then again... Isn't that how octomom came to be? Yikes! Oops just saw @funkykey beat me to that punch line haha! Yeah I'd be pissed about that miscommunication too. I hope you can get some straight forward talk from them ... as well as clear up this talk of impregnating you with a small army.

@helloworld9 I didn't quite make it to a gallon - I tried! It's too sweet

i did eat a lot of cup of noodles today and a giant protein bar so hopefully that will help shift this fluid.

Hopeful_mom · July 2017

@funkykey You know, this journey is so brutal - it's made me jaded and cynical and very dark. I've felt so hopeless, and I've had moments where I've just had so much hate. On these boards, it's not so bad, but sometimes IRL, I can't even go outside. I hear all these people talking about their families and their beautiful, healthy babies, and I just think: "you have no idea how punishing life can be." ...
You always nail it!! I have more days like this then I care to admit...but its the truth. My cycle where I had 7 eggs in the running day 5 I had 2 and was really disappointed and I was already coming off a previously bad cycle so I get the wait to day 6. I got the call that 4 more made it to blast and was over joyed. I finally got 2 normies out of the batch...being now 41 I'll take it...still disappointed but at least hopeful!!
@helloworld9 good luck sounds like you have a few more that will hopefully join the party tomorrow!

@bionerdsteph I know everyone says 4 WHAT!! But when I had just turned 40 we had implanted 3 on day 3....(TW) and I did get my first BFP ever with twins...so I'm a believer in more...I MC both at 10 wks so unfortunately I don't have a happy ending...yet. I WISH I could transfer more then one but my OH won't agree to it as my MC was really bad he doesn't want to chance it. (TW) My RE now is concerned and their goal is one healthy baby at a time...I still yearn for my twins! Do you want to have twins? Depending how many strongest I had I would do a strong one and a fair one...just some food for thought. My gf only had fair ones and had a 2 yr old lil girl!

A couple of you mentioned Octomom...on bravo they had this show Then and Now and she was on it...bizarre story in the sense of how this clinic even went through with it. But she said they put 6 in and said something went wrong with the transfer and its not going to work so they then put in the next 6....its insane. You already have 6 kids, twins would be a lot to add to that party, but 8! You knew the process worked...at least for her!

@BusinessWife hoping all goes well with hubby!

gfgrump · July 2017

@bionerdsteph 4? That sounds inane. Im on mobile and cant remember how old are you? My clinic is really big on one at a time. They talk a lot about not just getting to a pregnancy but to a live birth and the numbers are really on the side i of a single pregnancy. But of course everyone has a different story. I just cant imagine my clinic ever suggesting 4.

@funkykey and @Hopeful_mom i know what you mean about about it being hard to stay positive. I work in a low income public school and it can be really hard to watch certain parents with their kids (not allof course) or be at an event and like everyone it's pregnant.
But i try to keep reminding myself that this is temporary and at some point this will all be behind us. Im not certain it will end how i want, but hopefully I'll have a baby naturally or adopted. Or maybe I'm decide I'm Ok not having children. I don't think so but maybe. And this limbo will be over.

funkykey · July 2017

@Dwmmwd - Im not certain it will end how i want, but hopefully I'll have a baby naturally or adopted. Or maybe I'm decide I'm Ok not having children. I don't think so but maybe. And this limbo will be over.

I know exactly how you feel but... your baby is going to grow from an egg in one of the 18 follies you're triggering. I'm sure of it! You're in the home stretch!! A week from now you'll be naming embryos!

@Hopeful_mom - you have been through so much to get your 4 normies! I'm so excited for your BFP!

marioana99 · July 2017

@Dwmmwd That's exactly how i feel. I will try all that is possible now, but if it's not meant to be I'll live with it.

I had my day 7 us this morning, 3 follicles growing, one is a 10, one a 7 and another a 4.5. Not a lot to be happy about, I was hoping I will get 5 or 6 to have a shot at least 2 fertilized eggs...

allycheer00 · July 2017

Hi ladies! So happy to see alot of you at the end of this round of IVF!

@funkykey What a blessing that the others pulled through! Prayer does work!

@baker+RN Crossing all the things that all 7 make it for testing! Hoping that you feel better as each hour passes.

@BusinessWife How did the procedure go?

@Dwmmwd How was your appt today? Did you have any more make it past the mature cut-off?

Well, here I am on day 14 of stims. I FINALLY get to trigger tonight with 11 follicles ready. Bummed that 3 are too small but I'll take what I can get.

Every single time that I've had an ultrasound, my legs shake like crazy. It's so embarrassing and I explain that it's my blood pressure meds. *TW* However, the last 3 days I've got a tech who is 37 weeks pregnant *end TW* She has the best conversation and we've bonded over a few things. After the first scan, I requested her for the future and my legs haven't shook once. It's so weird. I guess it was actually a comfortability issue.

Holls214 · July 2017

@allycheer00 11 is great!! Maybe the other 3 will catch up before the ER. Good luck this weekend with you ER.

I really hope that July/August are the months for everyone!

bionerdsteph · July 2017

@helloworld9 my clinic is pretty conservative with going to blast. There is some evidence that per egg retrieved day 3 transfers have a slightly high live birth rate, so some viable embryos are lost by going to day5/6. The data for day 3 vs day 5 are really sketchy though- it either shows no difference or favors day 3 for per egg retrieved so my clinic goes with the option of more failed transfers but a possibility of higher per cycle success. It seems like it's really just how much heart ache from miscarriages & BFNs can you take and the Dr opinion at this point since all the studies are so poor quality.

@hopefulmom Did u get a BFP? I must have missed it, congrats! I have nightmares about twins. I do not want that at all. We're you the one trying to get a NK cell test? I think I figured out what that's all abo@DWBrideMar2008

@allycheer00 Maybe you can catch pregnancy from your tech! If only it worked that way! Congrats on making it to trigger, stats show the highest pregnancy rates with 10-15 mature eggs retrieved, 11 is great.

My Dr seems hung up on my history of chemo & that my embryos are probably a lot lower quality than they seem so we should implant more. I'm in disagreement with him about the effect the chemo probably had. All the scientific data shows for the kind of chemo, amount I received and how old I was the major damage is to ovarian reserve through death of the cumulus cells surrounding the egg, not damage to the actual egg itself. Most of the patients he's seen that have been through chemo were children/adolescents when they had chemo & in those cases there is usually more isssues with egg quality. It doesn't seem like 11 of 13 making it to 6+ cells at day 3 and more than half being at least average for morphology is indicative of super poor quality. So I'm pretty sure we're going with 2 best and if nothing takes either doing a thaw & go to day 5 with fresh transfer if anything makes it that far or go through the rest of the average ones 2 at a time. I'll take the BFNs and risk of miscarriages over the chance of an Octomom situation.

@Dwmmwd I'm 36, and as my Dr like to remind me, 37 in October. How's the stimming going?

funkykey · July 2017

Whoops - I just meant @Hopeful_mom for the BFP I know you are going to get from your normies, one day. It's coming. I meant it as a cheerleading thing, like in case you are feeling totally hopeless!

Hopeful_mom · July 2017

@Dwmmwd I echo @funkykey said this is such a tough process!! I question where I will land and pray my child is truly on the way! Are you banking? Was just looking at your siggy? How was your previous cycle? 18 is huge so you must be a bit uncomfy for sure!! sorry! I've had cycles with 3 and the cycles with 10 and each one has been different! Hoping you have a great ER, with that amount maybe there are a few mature ones waiting in the wings for you!

bionerdsteph I WISH I got a BFP. My siggy is in the spoiler box, I've been through a lot so I didn't like taking up so much room making a post

*TW* I was pregnant for 10 wk with twins and MC in jan 2017, I got my BFP with a fresh transfer and since my MC was so bad my RE and OH did not want to risk another fresh transfer and went to doing pgs. Does it SUCK! 100% I loved doing IVF right into a fresh transfer and getting my first BFP ever, it was a dream. AND it felt like ok this is how its suppose to work and then it all went to shit. *TW*
Since I have low AMH and I'm now 41

ugh I hate that reminder I have a short window to get normal embryos. So I've done back to back IVF cycles trying to bank normal embryos and then FET. Its been a lot tougher then I'd like to admit. I was close to transfer but decided to try and do one more cycle to get another normie before moving on, fingers crossed!!
You've been through such a journey already its not fair you have IF on to of that! The fact that you got double digits is awesome!! The one cycle I got double digits was one of my worsts, go figure. Sad for someone that has really unexplained IF, I make quality over quantity!!
AND YES I am the one looking to do NK cell testing which is proving to be a much bigger pain in the ass then expected!!! SO many RE do not believe it and only a few even do it and its very expensive!
I find your research on Day 3 VERY interesting! Due to my age and have under 5 eggs at ER my RE did a 3dt of the 3 we got and fertilized. Thats probably why I'm so for a fresh transfer. I hate that you have to wait for PGS tested AND its not 100% accurate so that sux too. *TW* I did testing after the MC and knew one twin was normal so that makes all of this that much worse, the other was inconclusive...so thats a whole other unknown, not fun!*TW*

@allycheer00 double digits is fantastic - best of luck at ER! 14 days of stemming ugh!! that is no fun, had that last cycle, and had no more veins Its very interesting you're at ease with the pregnant tech! *TW* My RE got pregnant almost a few weeks after me...as shes now due in Sept so thats fun. I'm actually happy for her but I can see why she was horrified during my MC! *TW*

@funkeykey I was wondering about my other embaby in waiting and I just found out that it "survived nicely" ahhhhh how great if that could be a normie for me

At least it made it through one hurdle right! I'm thrilled reading your update I'm really glad you're feeling good! Its hard to get those days int his process so enjoy!! I've been typing and just hit refresh...100% you're being my cheerleader and I thank u for it...this girl certainly needs it

gfgrump · July 2017

Well we're hoping to bank, but right now i have 3 waiting to test. Fingers crossed we get alot this weekend. We are triggering tonight for retrieval sat. There were about 10 mature today plus a couple right under the line. So if i end up with 3 or more after this cycle, we'll have 6+. We're doing pgd for brca which is 50percent and then pgs, which according my doc for my age will be about 50 percent. Its just a big question if they will be the same embryos. So i feel like if i end up with 2 at the end that will be lucky. So banking seems unlikely but who knows. If it works out for one kid, ill feel lucky. Im not doing any more rounds of retrieval. Cant afford it and i just can't put my body through it. And then *TW with my late loss in 2016, im also concerned about whether i can even carry a pregnancy to term. We didnt really get much info about the baby last time so I'm not sure if it was a chromosomal thing or not. End *tw*

So anyway, just trying to stay with each day bc if i let myself go down the rabbit hole, its a scary place.

@Hopeful_mom i believe. You deserve something good. I know its coming.*TW I feel like after my loss, it was like my naivete was broken. I think if i get a bfp again, i will feel a lot more measured. I mean i know ill be excited, but with an understanding that bad shit can happen to me. When i was in the thick of it, i told my friend that it felt surreal. She's like, that's bc it sounds like something that happens to someone else. I was like truem Not sure if you feel that way.

@bionerdsteph 36 and they're suggesting 4? I can't believe that. I agree with going with the2 best. I haven't actually heard anything about ratings of my embryos. Just that i have 3. Hmm. I feel like there's so much not studied, like the effects of chemo on egg quality. And also im realizing that drs just have different opinons on stuff.

@funkykey im 37, turning 38 in sept. My doctor was actually less worried about my age than me. He agrees with you that 35 is arbitrary.

@allycheer00congrats on getting to trigger tonight. I know i feel so much relief too. 11 is good. Its really quality over quantity. Just need one good one. Ill check on sunday to hear how it went. Fun to have a trigger buddy. (is that a thing?)

@BusinessWife how did it go? Any updates?

[Deleted User] · July 2017

Just a quick update bc it's been a very long day and my head is killing me, CD1. ...but....

WE HAVE SPERM!!! It seemed like it was pretty quick, too, and even better, my doctor said she doesn't think we will need to have donor backup!!!!

Less good news, is he said does not see a tube reconstruction being possible. :/ but we will take what we can get!!!

helloworld9 · July 2017

@Dwmmwd - I also hope we can all put this IF period behind us. It is so hard. Good luck on ER!

@marioana99 - I hope you continue to grow those follicles!

@allycheer00 - Wow 14 days. That's a long time but glad you triggered!

@bionerdsteph - I can see it as a numbers game. Either the clinic wants to transfer more day 3s or fewer day 5s. I guess my clinic, when I asked them, said blasts have a "higher" rate of pregnancy. I don't have a choice now, so it is what it is for me.

@BusinessWife - Yay! I swear, any news is good news.

AFM - 5 more made it to freeze today!! I was waiting for that call all day, and I was so worried around 4:50pm that I called the clinic, then the embryologist called while I was on the other line. I elected to do PGS so now the 1-2 week wait... I'm just so overjoyed. It has been a tough ER recovery process for me. Although I am feeling a lot better today.

Holls214 · July 2017

@helloworld9 that's great news! Hooray. Hoping you all have a good weekend and good luck with the ERs.

[Deleted User] · July 2017

Thank you guys!!! ❤❤❤ I just posted a novel over on the TTGP IF/Testing thread too, if anyone wants to check that out. <img alt="" src="https://forums.thebump.com/resources/emoji/wink.png" height="20">

baker+RN · July 2017

@helloworld9 great news!!! Congratulations on 5 more making it to freeze! FX for good PGS results!!

@BusinessWife yay for having sperm!!

@Dwmmwd FX for a good ER for you!

AFM- I was feeling really uncomfortable and crampy and bloated today and had gained more weight plus had some of the worst heartburn of my life, and had shortness of breath, so the office had me come in to see how much fluid I had on my abdomen. I didn't have much, maybe 300cc, but my ovaries are still large and wandering in my abdomen away from their home in my pelvis, so that's what's causing my discomfort. The doc went to speak with the embryologist beforehand and it turns out we'd lost one embryo, 1 was fair at day 5 blast stage, and the rest were still Day 4 morulas but looked good for their stages (albeit behind). So we did a day 5 transfer today with the fair blast. We will see how the others are tomorrow and may freeze any that look good. So no PGS for now. But ... I'm PUPO! DH got teary in the surgery suite - I recognized the look on his face from our wedding day. And the whole drive home he sang "sticky baby" in various song styles

good luck to everyone with ERs and embryos growing this weekend!

[Deleted User] · July 2017

@baker+RN. Aww, that's cute. ❤ Congratulations on PUPO status!!!

Hopeful_mom · July 2017

baker+RN congrats on being PUPO sending you all the sticky vibes! sorry for the discomfort hopefully everything will settle down for you!

Holls214 · July 2017

@baker+RN yay for being pupo! Get some rest.

funkykey · July 2017

@marioana99 - keeping FX that all your three follies give you beautiful eggs!!!

@allycheer00 - thinking of you! GL with the ER! Re: the legs shaking - I can totally see how that would be the case, with comfortability. I'm glad you've found someone you are comfortable with! Also hoping she has magical pregnancy dust that infects you!!!

@Dwmmwd - So anyway, just trying to stay with each day bc if i let myself go down the rabbit hole, its a scary place. - Um, yes. IVF is f*cking terrifying - honest to God, IF is a nightmare, the uncertainty is a nightmare. I just did a few IUIs and IVF and have only been trying for 2 years, and this alone has drained my marriage, my sanity, and my body - and so so many women have been through so much worse! Sending you all my good vibes and thinking that you are very brave!

@BusinessWife - AAAHHHH!!! So happy for you!!! You have been so supportive of everyone!! I am so so happy that you got some good news!!!! Sending all that sperm lots and lots of love! (That sounds creepy... I really don't mean it to be creepy... Gah!)

@helloworld9 - Wonderful news that more made it! OMG, if they'd called me at 4:50pm, I would have been beside myself - LOL! Anyway, great news, am so thrilled, and feeling very hopeful for you!!

@baker+RN - AAAHHH!!! PUPO!!!! That's awesome!!!

Wandering ovaries sound awful, but hoping it all clears up soon, and sending lots of love to your sticky baby.

@Hopeful_mom- I am certain you will be a mom soon. I am 100% certain, and I never say that!!! FX for this next cycle - hoping you get at least one more normie!! When are you going to start? Have you taken a cycle off?

helloworld9 · July 2017

@baker+RN - Awesome!! I hope this one sticks. And so sweet about your DH.

@funkykey - Omg it was the worst Friday! But I know I'm one of the lucky ones.

Hopeful_mom · July 2017

Dwmmwd reading your update kind of gave me chills as its a lil too close to hitting home here...I get all your thoughts! I dont want to bring you down a hole as i know that world too well, sorry you have a double whammy and need to do both in testing. *TW* with your previous loss they didn't do any testing? I"m still frustrated I don't have all the answers and i'm never going to get them. It's strange after my transfer I was just like its my time, this is the time I"m the successful one and I get the bfp. I always feel like when I dont get one that others can have a beter shot as not everyone gets one right, but that first transfer it was my time. I felt different things in my tummy at times and I was positve somehting was happening....and really praying hard

Finally bfp, rasising betas awesome! US - my dream 2 of 3 implanted twins...heartbeats and everything right on point. Doubt would start to creep in, there was apart of me that was waiting for the next show to drop all the time. I was sick as could be come wk 6 but yet I still felt, can this end, can i lose one. Yet I was already planning the birthdays i would have. I guess i had my good days and bad days...and then the worst happened and i lost both. I think I always thought I would at least hold on to one, and baby B was a normal girl so it infuriates me that my body didn't hold on to her. Getting another BFP terrifies me, probably why I keep doing IVF back to back. We just need to pray that out bodies will make it this time!! I'm OOP and my wallet needed me to stop 2 cycles ago, but I"m praying this last one we really be it...I know i said hat last time but I mean it this time

*TW over
I love your positivity, truly, thank u!

BusinessWife I got all excited to go read your novel and you should know i've never been to that side of the island...Just thought the TTGP board really weren't for people with IF, so of course I got lost over there forever

You really had some crazy day, I laugh that OH was really making it all about him, I hope you will return the favor when its your time! I've been through too many ER that OH literally drops me off and takes care of other things and then comes back for me....nice right? I'm really glad you get to move on with no donor sperm needed!! Will you be able to get another specimen to freeze, I know I"m shooting for the stars for you! It's great that you know get to move on to the next part. I try and look at it like hurdles, one down, now another to go...It's not always easy but helps.

helloworld9 glad to hear your feeling better, each day will get you closer to feeling better. I had way less then you and I felt bloated forever...hell i still feel bloated

Big congrats on those fighters, what an awesome update, hoping your pgs results will be that great!!

funkykey funny I love your positivity and funny I totally feel the same for you - so it must be true

I should be starting the patch in about a day or so and then I'm just waiting on AF, hoping it'll be this week...I'm ready to get this party started!!

@marioana99 remember girl quality over quantity! Let the 3 cook be your golden batch!! You still have a ways to go so hang in there...I had 2 pop near the end of my cycle so you're still in it lady!

baker+RN · July 2017

Quick update - Embryologist called and informed us that the rest of our embryos had arrested and started degenerating by this morning. Pretty bummed right now, but holding onto hope that the one blastocyst they transferred yesterday sticks and develops into a healthy baby. Taking it easy today.

[Deleted User] · July 2017

Oh God I am so sorry FX super hard for a nice sticky lil* peanut in there ❤

allycheer00 · July 2017

@helloworld9 So exciting that you have so many that made it to blast. That great news has to make recovery so much easier!
@hopefulmom How many normies do you have at the moment? Is it 4? I hope this last round gives you a few more so you can feel just even a little bit more at ease. You've been through alot, yet you're here to give advice and cheer on to the fullest. You are a really good person. I pray that you get your miracle baby soon.
@baker+RN That's sofa king exciting that you did a fresh transfer and you're pupo. So sorry about the others but let's focus on that one inside of you and pray that you see your double lines soon.
@dwmmwd Having someone at about the same day in the process is fun! So how did it go yesterday? I hope they called you today and said a ton fertilized. Can't wait to hear your update.

AFM, my ER was 7:30 this morning. I'm like come on, bruh lol. The nurse didn't get the IV in until the 3rd try and blew a vein in my right hand. I'm so lucky to have a high tolerance for pain. Doc said he wanted 10 before the procedure so we were excited when he retrieved 14 eggs! Does anyone know if they take them all even if they're not mature? Bad news is that he said he saw alot of endometriosis and that, for sure, is why my periods are ridiculous and I bleed so much in between them. It probably also explains why I've basically felt nothing during stims. I'm so used to being uncomfortable that the affects of stims are just like another day in my life. I do worry about what this means for transfer though

Hoping to see positive news from everyone and warm thoughts to all of you as we continue this journey.

helloworld9 · July 2017

@baker+RN - Oh no I am so sad to hear that.

I really hope that first beta is sky high though! Crossing everything for you.

@allycheer00 - Yes, I believe the lab will take all eggs, but only fertilize the mature ones? Great job with 14 eggs! I hope you get a lot of rest.

gfgrump · July 2017

@baker+RN sending you tons of positive vibes. I'm really hopeful for you. So sorry about the others, that had to be frustrating.

@allycheer00 yes they usually take everything. Congrats on 14. Thats a good number especially if they were hoping for 10. Sux about the endo. Im surprised they could see it in there. My understanding its that ivf is supposed to help bc the issue with endo is fertilization bc it's a toxic environment in there.

Afm-we got 22 so happy about that. Everything went smoothly but of course it's just my luck that the sf marathon was happening this morning so getting to the clinic was crazy stressful. We left 45 min early and made it just in time. And on friday i stupidly watched that show friends from college on Netflix and there's an ivf episode where like it all goes result wrong and its all stressful.my husband's was like, why the hell are you watching that? But anyway, i was feeling anxious today, but everything went fine.
*tw*
@Hopeful_mom no as far i undestand they really didn't do much testing and i don't know why. I really have no answers a to what happened. My ob says that the placenta never attached correctly. But that was after. During the pregnancy when i was spottin or even actually bleeding they kept telling me everything was fine. So who knows. They claim that it was random and that we don't have a higher risk of it happening again. But i don't know if i really believe them. Also i think it's connected to the endo but they say no. I just try to stay positive and believe it will happen for us.
End *tw*

Alright ladies, time for a nap. Fx for more good news coming this week.

Hopeful_mom · July 2017

allycheer00 I was laughing reading your update, only the beginning. I too had ER at 7:30 am and I was like WTH!! My OH is never one for being on time so its like telling him i need to be there at 5a. I wouldn't mind a nice 10/11am appt. Congrats on getting 14 thats awesome!! Are they doing any icsi or all reg fert? My clinic take them all and tries fertilization whether "mature" or not. For the ones that look iffy they always do regular ivf and the mature they'll do icsi. I will say any eggs of mine that looked wonky shall we say never made it BUT the 2 not mature did make it to blast but were abnormal...BUT for me its my age as they like to remind me so you certainly can have hope for all 14! A few good years makes a difference here! Your endo concerns me! Usually I've heard they take out the endo before doing a cycle, I'm not so familiar so forgive me. My RE originally thought that would be my issue as I complained of such painful AF but after testing that wasn't the case for me. I'm glad you're done and can relax. Hoping for a great report tomorrow - double digits is fantastic!! And thanks for ur kind words its appreciated

I do have 4 normies, one more is getting retested as it first came back with no DNA (yikes sounds scary yes!) They thawed and retested as I have no more patience to not know, so I would love to say 5

@baker+RN - so sorry to hear about the rest of ur embabies i know how hard that is to hear for sure. I'd like to think out bodies make at least one good egg a cycle, hoping thats your sticky bean!

Dwmmwd wow 22 thats amazing!! What a great number to start things off....I think it took 7 cycles for me to get that many, so my hats off to you! Sorry your ride was stressful but glad you made it. Anytime I've ever been on time or early they weren't ready for me...but of course the times i'm running late they're calling my cell asking where i am

I've been seeing the trailer for College I want to check that out. My OH says the same thing why do you want to watch anything with IVF, I dont know makes you feel part of the club...like you get it better OR you get annoyed that they make it look so easy, like hello, great you're bringing to the forefront but show how much it really sucks! Glad its over and you can relax! Looking forward to hearing good updates tomorrow.

AFM: Went in for my BW and US and got the go to start on my patch for estrogen priming so now i wait for AF to show...

bionerdsteph · July 2017

@hopefulmom so sorry! I saw what funkykey wrote and thought I had missed something big. I'm on my phone so no sig View for me. As for the NK cell test- I found one good plain language about it and it sums up what I was reading in the medical journals pretty well. It doesn't mention that to actually look for this it's a uterine biopsy with an experimental test. https://www.ivf1.com/natural-killer-cells-miscarriage-infertility/
I hope this might help you understand why your RE isn't excited about the test. Disclaimer I'm not an expert at placental immunology but this is for sure super early in the research for this.

@baker+RN so sorry to hear that more didn't make it & good vibes for a BFP in a couple weeks.

@allycheer00 My place takes all eggs they can get, I don't think they can distinguish for sure mature unless they look at them under a microscope- follicle size is a good indication but not exact. Some labs even can mature rggs but that seems pretty new.

@BusinessWife congrats on the sperm, it doesn't take much, especially with ICSI.

I'm traveling for work right now & am jet lagged but we're set to transfer 2 with my next cycle in August. I needed this month off & I will be out of town when the transfer would happen so August it is. When I get back next weekend we're going to do a last hurrah for me with raw fish & alcohol! Better to be prepared mentally to give those up.

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