Game of Thrones - S7E1 - spoiler warning

doxiemoxie212 · July 2017

Hello fellow Game of Thrones fans! Let's share our thoughts on the first episode. As you can imagine, spoilers abound, so join at your own risk if you haven't watched yet.

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ETA: oh, I guess some guided questions would be nice.

Favorite moment?

Least favorite moment?

Did you cry? If so, when/why?

Any predictions based on this ep?

hezzer78 · July 2017

Favorite moment? So many! The opening scene with Arya, Dany landing at Dragonstone, the Hound's scenes, and the scene with Sansa and Jon. It created some tension, but both had valid points and I liked seeing Sansa really push her authority..

Least favorite moment? Probably the Samwell poop thing. Or the scene with Euron just because he's smarmy and I hate him.

Did you cry? If so, when/why? I don't really cry at TV shows, so no

Any predictions based on this ep? Not really? Maybe that Jon will head to dragonstone to get the dragon glass and that will be how he meets up with Dany and tries to convince her to help them.

Avrilmai · July 2017

Favorite moment?
am i a sociopath if i say the opening scene? Winter has come for House Frey
I did enjoy the Hound and the Brotherhood scene, I think it really showed us how far he has come and really set up a lot of what we will see this season

Least favorite moment?
the montage at the citadel, like i got the point i just thought it went on too long.

Did you cry? If so, when/why?
no tears this time.
did have a couple of laughs. Tormund and his longing for Brienne

Any predictions based on this ep?
When Sam was looking at the book, was that a picture of the dagger that Little Finger has/had? (on the page before the dragonstone page)
um, can we talk about the preview for next week?

was that Nymeria?!?!, if so I am excited.

doxiemoxie212 · July 2017

Favorite moment? 100% the cold open with Arya. I am so pumped for her murderous, justice-seeking trek across Westeros. Also, I am so excited to be back in this world again, and I can't wait for next week's episode! (And next week we'll be in CA, so we'll get to watch at 6pm, which I'm oddly excited about lol)

Least favorite moment? Ed Sheeran. WTF? I guess that scene was meant to sort of humanize the Lannisters a bit - like, not all Lannisters are terrible, some are forced into this mess, and their lives are being ruined too, and I get that, but Ed Sheeran felt gimicky. It felt like product placement almost.

Did you cry? If so, when/why? I did not, but my husband did. He was emotional for most of the episode, but especially when Lady Mormont was talking.

Any predictions based on this ep? This episode really made me believe Jaime will kill Cersei. I think it has to happen because she's definitely become the Mad Queen, and he'll see it as the honorable thing to do, especially with Dany, who is not evil, available to take over as ruler. I think Cersei has to die before everyone starts battling the true Big Bad (the wights), so I think it will happen mid to late season, so that next season can be 100% all out against The Night King. I think Arya will be mad she doesn't get to kill Cersei, but oh well. In Bran's vision, we see the Night King walking on green grass, that as he passes over it turns to snow, and that means they're south of the wall. A lot of internet folks are saying they think that since Bran has the Night King's mark on him, and now Bran has passed through the wall, that now the wights can pass through the wall sort of like what happened at the Tree with the three eyed raven. So, it looks like they're south of the wall, but someone also said the one-eyed giant looks like Wun Wun, which means they're south of Winterfell, and came before they could burn Wun Wun? I don't know - that timeline doesn't really make sense to me, though, because look how big Gilly's kid is! Time has passed! Like, you wouldn't leave a giant corpse rotting for months, right?

A question I have: where the eff is Ghost? Maybe they just left him out for budgetary reasons, but like, where is he? I'm worried about him. I love him too much.

doxiemoxie212 · July 2017

@Avrilmai yes! Also, check this out: https://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/heres-something-you-definitely-missed-from-the-game-of?origin=shp&utm_term=.icpm8MLn9#.wrjz2bR89

doxiemoxie212 · July 2017

Also, did anyone catch the GRRM Time interview? In it, he says: "Poor Beric Dondarrion, who was set up as the foreshadowing of all this [resurrection], every time [he’s brought back] he’s a little less Beric. His memories are fading, he’s got all these scars, he’s becoming more and more physically hideous, because he’s not a living human being anymore. His heart isn’t beating, his blood isn’t flowing in his veins, he’s a wight, but a wight animated by fire instead of by ice, now we’re getting back to the whole fire and ice thing."

!!!!!

zamoraspin · July 2017

Favorite moment? The cold open with Arya wearing Walder's skin. Whaat. That was epic. I also think it gives us a better idea of how the face thing works - Arya can kill anyone and then wear their face.

Least favorite moment? Don't get me wrong, I really liked the scene where Dany lands on Dragonstone, but I had a hard time understanding why Cersei/Jaime had not sent a force to occupy that castle, or sent Euron and his ships there. Like, there is just this big empty f-ing castle that you KNOW the mother of dragons is going to want and you left it totally empty and unguarded?

Did you cry? If so, when/why? Nope.

Any predictions based on this ep? I had a lot of predictions of things that will happen before the end - but I'm not sure exactly when they will happen. Definitely think Cersei will be dead by end of season. I also think one dragon may die by the end of the season (though I hate that). Also, I was very interested in how the Hound has changed and grown. I think he and Arya will meet up and he may actually influence her back towards humanity. I think the vengeance angle is so cool but I could see her going to far with it pretty fast and losing herself in it. I also think Sam will cure Jorah. I agree with you @hezzer78 that Jon now has a reason to contact Dany/ go to Dragonstone because of the dragon glass, but I wonder if perhaps a friendship between Sam and Jorah might facilitate a peace between Dany and Jon.

@doxiemoxie212 re Bran and the Wall - yes, I am seeing that too as a theory. I kind of hate to think he is somehow going to be responsible for the WW being able to bring down the Wall but it is definitely possible. I wish the three-eyed raven had shown him better how this stuff works. Also, yes, I have also seen the speculation on the grass (must be south of the Wall in the future) and Wun Wun. My issue with Wun Wun being undead is like, is that definitely him couldn't it just be a rando giant? I agree the reasonable thing would have been to burn all the bodies from Battle of the Bastards and any deaths at Winterfell. We already know Jon knows to do this, so, idk how that could be Wun Wun.

doxiemoxie212 · July 2017

@zamora_spin yeah, the stuff with Dany/Dragonstone, I felt similarly. Especially because in the books it's ENTIRELY different. We do see a person land with an army on Dragonstone in the books (but in the books Dany is still like, off trying not to die of thirst in the desert), and it's definitely an occupied land/castle, like there is a battle of sorts. So it was weird that that didn't have to happen here even though it's Dany arriving? I was sort of happy to not have a battle, though - I don't want to get fatigued before what's to come!!

doxiemoxie212 · July 2017

Oh I have another prediction! I think when Arya reunites with Jon (and I believe/hope strongly this will happen), I think there HAS to be a moment where Jon still thinks Arya is an innocent girl, and then she kills someone in front of him, and says something about she learned to stick them with the pointy end. I need this to take place, lol.

zamoraspin · July 2017

@doxiemoxie212 Yeah I agree re battle for Dragonstone - on the one hand I didn't want there to have to be one, but on the other I just think it is tactical idiocy for Cersei to leave that place totally unguarded. Jaime said maybe two scenes before that Dany would land at Dragonstone. Come on! She and her fleet were the most vulnerable they're going to be after that voyage and you just let them walk in? Also, I'm down for the full Stark reunion to happen this season. For now Arya seems like she's on her way to King's Landing for now, but maybe she'll get redirected or go down and then come back up.

garnetandgoldgrace · July 2017

@Avrilmai - I totally think that was Nymeria!!!!!! I am so pumped pumped pumped.

Favorite moment? Come on. That opening scene. It was such poetic justice. Yessss. Just scenes with Jamie because for some reason I love him now and he's trying to get Cersei to be realistic. Also the way he looked at Greyjoy when he mentioned his hands. yikes. hehe

Least favorite moment? The poop. Littlefinger being annoying as usual.

Did you cry? If so, when/why? nOT this episode but I am pretty sure there will be tears in the future. If a dragon dies I AM DONE.

Any predictions based on this ep? Yes, I think someone up above mentioned Littlefinger's spear and yes, I believe it will play a role in the future.

glitzandglitter · July 2017

Favorite moment? I also loved the opening with Arya and then Dany arriving at Dragonstone.

Least favorite moment? The poop scenes. It was like okay, I get it he changed a lot of nasty bed pans and almost threw up - enough already.

Did you cry? If so, when/why? No

Any predictions based on this ep? I think Cersei will die before the end of the season and I think it will end up being Jamie because he will just see she is crazy. I want Arya and Bram to be back with Jon and Sansa. I also can't wait to see how the tension that seems to be building between Jon and Sansa plays out.

@Doxiemoxie212 & @zamora_spin - I thought that was weird too the way Dragonstone was completely empty. I thought that Cersei would have had someone waiting. Also I had some side eye for the Ed Sheeran being in the episode.

nitnat007 · July 2017

Favorite moment? Definitely opening with Ayra. Like, damn girl! That is how you get revenge!

Least favorite moment? I looked away at all the poop stuff. The gagging was enough for me. Also, Ed Sheeran, although cute and all. Seemed very much out of place and his accent did not gel with the era.

Did you cry? If so, when/why? No. But I am with @garnetandgoldgrace if an animal (dragon or other) dies, I am toast.

Any predictions based on this ep? No predictions. It does bother me that with all Arya's determination about avenging her family members that are dead, she doesnt seem in the least bit concerned about the ones that are still living? But, maybe that is just me. So I look forward to her reuniting with the rest of her family, after Cersei is taken out.

Avrilmai · July 2017

Was I the only one who was a little disappointed when Arya said she was headed south? I'm like @nitnat007 & @zamora_spin I want her to reunite with her living family, mainly Jon since they were so close.

nitnat007 · July 2017

Oh and I have to add that I love Lyanna Mormont! She kicks a$$. "I don't plan on kitting by the fire while men fight for me". Totally would want to be her friend IRL.

doxiemoxie212 · July 2017

@Avrilmai I feel like they've got to drag some of this plot out, right? Like, if Arya just goes north to meet up with Jon and Sansa, I feel like there won't be enough conflict anymore. There's going to be a falling out with Sansa and Jon at some point (we see in the promo Brienne with the Lannisters, which means either Sansa is fine with that, or Sansa released Brienne, or Sansa died, etc.)

nitnat007 · July 2017

@doxiemoxie212 I say Sansa joins the Lannisters. Her admiration for Cersei is a little too real. I think her trauma has hardened her.

madspunk · July 2017

@doxiemoxie212 I didn't see that Time review - but that is so interesting! It's the first time I've heard something like that and now I'm wondering how that might impact the rest of the show.

Favorite moment? The scenes with Jon and his bannerman. I love Lady Mormont, and I think Jon has got this all right with the way he's doing things.

Least favorite moment? Same as @zamora_spin. Why did they just let Dany land? That scene seemed strange to me because I thought her homecoming was more easy than it really should have been, and I thought I would be more moved by it.

Did you cry? If so, when/why? No.

Any predictions based on this ep? I think either Jon or Sam will meet Dany relatively soon. Arya will kill Littlefinger. Jamie will kill Cercei.

icecubeinthedesert · July 2017

So I didn't watch it, so I didn't read the comments here so I don't spoil it. But I just wanted to share this gem I found yesterday

shortstack930 · July 2017

Favorite moment? The opening scene with Arya. She will always be one of my favorites.

Least favorite moment? everything with Sam. I've never been interested in his storyline and even less so now. Also, Ed Sheeran, wtf? I read online that they asked him to make a cameo as a surprise for Maisie Williams because she's a huge fan but it just felt really out of place. Like someone pulling out an iPhone in the middle of the American revolution or something.

Did you cry? If so, when/why? No.

Any predictions based on this ep? I'm really hoping for a reunion between Jon and Arya and for Jon and Dany to finally meet. I don't think Cersei will live past this season. Also, did anyone else notice in the previews for next episode that there's a scene where it looks like Sansa is being kissed by one of the Dorne girls???

doxiemoxie212 · July 2017

@shortstack930 that's Yara who kisses the Dorne girl

dpjennifer · July 2017

@doxiemoxie212 YES to the Arya telling Jon she learned to stick them with the pointy end!!!!

Favorite moment? Arya of course... I love Arya.

Least favorite moment? Sam in the library. Like, the books all have chains, but you reshelve books without attaching them to chains, which totally defeats the purpose of a medieval library chained book in the first place. *sigh* But that's probably my rare books/librarian self coming out.

doxiemoxie212 · July 2017

@dpjennifer DH was so mad that 1) the books weren't attached to the chains, 2) Sam kept putting them back spines IN! Why! Lol

zamoraspin · July 2017

@dpjennifer Did medievil libraries really have chained books? I did not know that! I thought it was just a GoT thing of like, we're so hardcore we even chain our books!

dpjennifer · July 2017

zamora_spin Yes it was a thing! Books used to be WAY more valuable than they are considered today because the materials and process to create them was much more expensive and labor intensive. So, they were chained to the shelves so that they couldn't be removed from the library. However, it also wasn't necessarily all books, but just the most valuable ones. So Sam 'reshelving' chained books is ridiculous because the point of them was that they had to be used right there at the shelf, because the chains couldn't be removed!

dpjennifer · July 2017

doxiemoxie212 Actually, sometimes books were shelved Spines IN. It had to do with ease of access, number of books, and depending on if the book had chains and where they were attached. Libraries back then were often much smaller and more complicated than today's libraries!

doxiemoxie212 · July 2017

@dpjennifer weird!

shortstack930 · July 2017

@doxiemoxie212 ahhh that makes so much more sense! I just saw a flash of red hair and was like Sansa??!!

Avrilmai · July 2017

So theories for next week...what if Nymeria doesn't recognize Arya because she (Arya) has changed so much? (i will not be happy, bc I think I like the direwolves more than the people, lol)

doxiemoxie212 · July 2017

@Avrilmai do you read the books?

In the books arya is a warg and wargs into nymeria accidentally fairly often so I feel like based on that they'll recognize each other in both the book and show.

Avrilmai · July 2017

@doxiemoxie212 I've read 3 of the 5. I started reading A Feast for Crows, but stopped when I was told there is a website that tells you how to read it and A Dance with Dragons concurrently and I never got around to looking it up.

but, you're right about that. I hope they do work it in. I don't want her becoming "no one" for a while to mess with that relationship

doxiemoxie212 · July 2017

@Avrilmai 4 is an awful book in my opinion. I had to read the Wikipedia spoilers so I could stay motivated enough to keep going. 5 is great tho. Lol

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