November 2017 Moms

Child Care Decisions

I know there was a thread started before and I got tired of scrolling through the pages....but also figured it might be nice to start up a new one since we are further along and might start having more solid decisions. 

Really curious about the following:

What type of care will you use? SAHM, Daycare facility, Nanny, Home Daycare, Other
Status: Part-time or Full-time
What will you spend monthly?
What are you looking for in your care options? Specific program/curriculum, type of facility/theme, flexible schedules, extended care hours, etc
Questions, Comments, Concerns: 
For STMs: Any recommendations to FTMs about do's and dont's of child care options?
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  • KMRR86KMRR86 member
    We will be using full time daycare at a registered in-home daycare. My dd goes there and I have a spot for the newbie as well. For my dd I pay $35/day including stat days. Daycare takes spring break, one week in July, one week in August, and a Christmas break off that we don't pay for. She also allows us to take our own three weeks vacation anywhere in the year that we also don't pay for (neither dh nor I get that much vacation time so we don't use it). When newbie goes, he will cost $45/day until age 2. She provides two snacks and we send lunch. 

    When i I was looking for care I wanted something that had a schedule for the kids and had both learning and play. The kids follow a schedule every day and we get a monthly agenda of what they'll be doing...like ocean week, jungle week, etc where they learn about a new subject. It also lists the letters/colours/numbers/shapes they'll focus on too. We've been really happy with it. 
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  • If we move from the city we will consider an au pair. I've heard good things. My son will attend full day pre-k and the au pair will mostly just be with the baby. Anyone have any exp with this? Nannies and day care are very expensive in my area so having both kids in all day day care is turning out super expensive. 
  • kwaldykwaldy member
    We will be using a childcare facility near where I work, provided we can get a slot. The wait list is stupid long, but we made sure we added our names basically as soon as we were like 8 weeks along. If we can get a slot, it'll end up being roughly $580 a month, per kid, because it is income adjusted. If we can't get a slot for this LO, we will be spending somewhere in the range of $900 a month (fml...in case you can't tell, we're really praying for a slot). LO would be attending full time, and the way their policy works is we pay, even if there are days LO doesn't go. If we don't, their slot is given up. 

    We have been very satisfied with the care DD has received there, and their curriculum. I love the routine DD gets there, and she reaaally thrives on routine. 
  • My 4yo goes to a Christian Preschool now, but he started at an in home care up until he was 3. I plan to find a new in home care for this little one (can't use the same one that we used for DS because we moved jobs and the lady is now really far in the other direction). I actually have a pretty good lead so I'm meeting with them next week to see if it is the right fit. My biggest thing when looking for care was finding someone with experience and who was consistent for my little's. So many centers have such high turnover and it is hard enough to leave your little with someone else, I didn't want that someone I was leaving them with to be changing all the time. Especially with the fact that I do work full time so they are with them more than I am (unfortunately). We pay $400/month for my 4yo and will likely pay around $500/m for the in home for this one (provided we like the lady we are meeting with). Another big thing for me was that I wanted to find someone who was cloth diaper friendly and so many of the centers are not. Thankfully most in home are open to it and happy to do what you want for your baby.
  • Currently on a waitlist for a day care center. It'll be full time most likely and costs $2640/month. Don't even get me started.

    It was important to me to have diversity, and some learning as well as playing, not that that matters much right away. But they do that and have private music instruction for the kids, provide lunches and snacks so we don't have to, and give us updates throughout the day on what baby is up to. Just so expensive. Luckily we've saved up enough for half a year so far so it won't kill us...I guess. Just wish this money was going to a college fund instead.

  • @DuchessOfCambridge that sounds like my brother and SIL. They just had their 2nd and will be paying close to 5k per month for their daycare center. Ours is a little less than 2k/month for an infant at a highly reputable center (different parts of the country). 
  • DS1 attends a local Montessori school, so tuition is ~$400 a month for morning half days. We pay a little extra ($10) if he wants to stay for lunch. DS2 will be starting there fall of next year, and I don't know about this little girl. I am a SAHM, so it is good for the boys to get out of the house without me to interact with other people and other kids their age. We have been really happy with the Montessori model and the school itself. Mostly we were just looking for a place that would let him learn his way and wasn't religious. Our little school is also expanding, so they will soon have k-5, which means they won't have to switch schools until everyone in town funnels into the one middle school. They won't be the only "new kids", and as a military child that means a lot to me. It was hard to always be the new kid, and I don't want that for my children. 
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  • I'm totally freaking out at the cost of day care for some of you, but it's worth it to get good care. DD2 is currently attending part time at a center, but will go to full time in September or so. Baby #3 will come to work with me full time for at least a year.

    Everyone has given some good advice. I will just add that if you know people who have older children, it may help to get suggestions from them or get their opinions about certain providers and their experiences.
  • Mine will start at a new center in August. I love our current center and am sad to be leaving - it's been a great experience for the kids. We will pay $95/day for the two older ones. Once this baby goes, it'll be another $50/day. My kids go full time, so 9hrs a day for 5 days a week. 

    @amber0529 is totally right about everything. When we chose the current center that we love, it wasn't the ritziest, most posh and put together center we toured. But, it was the center where we randomly walked in and everyone was happy and the kids were well behaved, but still playing and having a great time. I think the happiness goes hand in hand with teacher tenure - the main teachers in each room haven't changed since we've been there and most have been at this center for 10+ years. 
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  • @littlemissc17 That's awesome that you get to take LO with you to work for the first year!!

    @mommawolff11 Here in Michigan the law states that centers/in-home has to use disposable diapers for sanitary reasons BUT you can sign a waiver saying that your child needs CD for allergy reasons and it works. 

    @DuchessOfCambridge Those prices would kill me!
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    @DuchessofCambridge If I remember correctly you are in some city so maybe I'm just not used to urban prices but DAMNNNNNN 

    @amber0529 Great advice!

    @ariasbabyblog I had looked into Montessori as well. I like the method but it's not common where we think we'll be stationed next year. (yay military life)

    We're most likely moving again in January or February so I'm planning to be a SAHM until next spring/summer. If I do go back to work we'll probably hire a baby sitter in our house (is that what a nanny is? totally clueless). I like knowing that my house is clean and baby proofed and it's one on one. I may look into centers though, especially once LO is a toddler. 

    Me: 25 DH: 29, Married 1/1/2015
    DS 11/2/2017
    TTC since August 2018

  • We had our 2 DDs in full time daycare the last 2 years and it wasn't expensive about $1000/month. With another in daycare I would be bringing home negative $$!! So I am becoming a SAHM but I'm planning to run an in-home daycare. I'm in the licensing process right now (it's illegal in Michigan to not be licensed). I have 13 years of teaching experience and a MA in early childhood ed so I'm really excited!
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  • @Airynn Chica wait, $1,000 a month for 2 children?!?!? If so, I am sooooo jealous!
  • The cheapest option for day care I have is 2800 a month and if you count supplies and back up care costs it easily comes to 3000 a month and for two kids it will be 6000 a month - easily 60k-75k a year.  I cannot believe there is only a 3000 tax relief per child for day care costs. It's crazy. 
  • @Airynn Chica yes, it's pretty awesome. I took DD2 for over 2 years, but I don't think I can handle it for that long again lol. Doing in home child care is a great idea. I told DH that if I ever decided to stay home, I would do the same. 
  • ShePersisted  Where do you live?!?!
  • ShePersisted  Where do you live?!?!
    Manhattan! It's insane here. We kind of expected it to be expensive like everything else so that is why now we are struggling to decide to move out but frankly the NYC suburbs are not that much cheaper either but we do have free pre-k which does save us a year of full time costs so we need to think long term on how we even out. 
  • RiverSong15RiverSong15 member
    edited July 2017
    We prefer an NAEYC certified daycare center, but daycare in my city is insane. The cost for an infant is $2,000-$2,400 per month, with no discounts for vacation time or sick days. At the daycare associated with my DH's job, where we get preference on the waitlist and a discount, there is a 2 YEAR waitlist for infant care and it's $2,000 a month. That's the cheapest I've found. And they don't provide snacks or anything. We're going to get on other daycare waitlists, but I strongly suspect we'll end up doing a nanny share. That makes me really nervous, but we can't afford for me to stay home, and we can't afford a nanny by ourselves, so we'll need something. Finding care is honestly the thing that makes me the most nervous and makes me hyperventilate. Daycare costs and waitlists in big cities are insane! DH and I are above the median pay in our city and our rent is below average - how do other people do this???
  • Can I just say I threw up in my mouth a little reading some of these posts. 

    So far we haven't decided anything...I kno I'm a slacker. I haven't decided if I want to go back to work - they're pretty awful at times. But there's a daycare that's not too far that does part-time and full-time and is reasonably priced. My SIL used to use them but her DH switched schedules so he stays home until she gets there from work and then he goes in later. So I may see if I can leave mine with them for 2 hours a day between DH going to work and me coming home.

    I don't even make what some of your daycares cost! And I have a BA! So as much as I love working in my field, I just don't think it's even worth it for me to go back after baby. But we'll see. Maybe I'll stay home for a little and try to find a better paying job so I can afford daycare and my student loans 
  • @RiverSong15 We are going with a NAEYC center as well. About half the places we toured had that accreditation and my mom urged us to lean in that direction.
  • @kaitlinliz Yeah, it's pretty crazy what child care costs in some areas. We are in a medium cost of living area and while I don't like spending close to $1,200 a month, I know it's on the more reasonable side. I am not sure if I would want to be a full-time SAHM, but it wouldn't be an option for us because I earn twice what DH makes. I asked him if he wanted to stay home, but we would still take a massive cut in income relative to the cost of child care.
  • @dragonfly87-2 that's completely understandable. It's just awful! And if I was making more than $1400/month I'd be more inclined to keep my job ..DH makes double what I make without a degree so it kind of makes me feel it's not even worth it to stay. He pays all the bills minus my loan, if we can not pay daycare but he picks up my loan until baby's a little older than I'd rather do that than work just to pay for daycare 
  • slavenslaven member
    @DuchessofCambridge Quality of care is one of the reasons I may not go back to work. Thankfully we have that option because I know most don't. There are military spouse FB groups for each duty station and I see all the time that spouses watch kids out of their home on the side, usually without accreditation/license and they watch a few kids on top of having their own. I had bad experiences with babysitters as a kid. Nothing crazy or news worthy but one particular one that comes to mind is a sitter that smoked in front of my siblings and me when my parents had a no smoking policy. My younger brother ended up with multiple cases of bronchitis and I had asthma that I some how "grew out" of. 
    Me: 25 DH: 29, Married 1/1/2015
    DS 11/2/2017
    TTC since August 2018

  • @DuchessOfCambridge we are in the Boston area and have seen the same prices you're looking at, they're insane and we would also rather the college fund. We also have commute limitations so we might just end up doing that for a year or so. 

    I am lucky because I get maternity leave I can split up so I'm taking until January (and DH will then take his month) and then 6 weeks next summer but it's crazy to get daycare in the interim because they all make you pay to hold the spot. Thinking maybe a nanny share for 4 months then daycare next September- it sounds complicated but hoping we can make it work. 
  • @slaven I wish I could afford to stay home. It's not that we're poor or anything but our city is expensive. We could probably reduce our standard of living and have me stay home but we're not super into that option. We live in a great area right now and would have to move further outside the city or move to a less nice area I wouldn't feel safe in. Blah. 

  • I feel terrible when I read the cost of daycare in other areas. I don't live in a high cost of living area I would say moderate cost of living. I pay $125 a week for a licensed in home daycare that's close to our home but 45 minutes from my work. I went with an in home care because ive heard horror stories for all of the centers in my area aside from a few that are church based. When this LO comes the plan is for him to be at the same daycare for a year. DD then starts kindergarten at a private Christian school and we will most likely transition LO to the preschool at this facility. Most center are $175 to $225 depending on hours of care needed.
  • slavenslaven member
    @DuchessOfCambridge It is hard to make that decision and I don't think continuing to work is a bad choice especially if the other alternative affects where you live or your standard of living. Thankfully the military has a promotion "schedule" and DH is set for one next year so even then I may not go back to work because his pay increase will be the same as my part time income. However I like earning "my money" to buy random things like clothes for my Maltese and home decor. DH also doesn't have a flexible or even predictable work schedule, is often gone for weeks at a time, and of course deployments. 
    Me: 25 DH: 29, Married 1/1/2015
    DS 11/2/2017
    TTC since August 2018

  • My 4 year old currently attends an in home daycare(owned and run by his fathers parents) but we will have to move him when we move in October. I'm thinking of placing him in aT-K class which is about $400 a month and then having a nanny or nnny share for the little. Luckily SO is home by 1pm M-F and typically stylists positions start around 9-10am so the amount of car needed will be low. I have a big support of moms here that are stay at home and have offered to watch kids with there own LO, for pretty inexpensive, but I'm not sure that route will work for us.
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  • We are using a daycare, the one I really want we are on the waiting list for and we have a backup one where we have a guarenteed spot. Totally freaking out about cost $235 a week. 



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  • We will have a period of crazy for the first 3 months with me being home for about 8 weeks of that and then husband hopefully taking the next 4 weeks. Then we plan to have an au pair that will live here and care for the baby during the day and pick up V from school and care for him until we get home. She will only be able to work 45 hours weekly but we think it will be worth it to have the consistency of the same person around doing school pick ups for V and doing the care for the baby. I'm really hoping it works out...we haven't interviewed anyone yet. 
  • kalenpkalenp member
    We were really lucky to find a childcare facility attached to a community college. It's got a great reputation in the community and very very little turnover from staff. Full-time positions are super hard to come by -- many people spend their entire careers working there, which was so great to hear. They also had extra hands in the classrooms because the students enrolled in childcare classes at the community college have to do practicums in which they work in the classrooms. What really sold me on it, though, was the huge outdoor space. It feels like a nice, forested backyard, as opposed to a patch of asphalt. My kids have had some really great experiences there. For 2 kids it costs us about $1200/month for 3days/week of care. Once we add a 3rd I'd be making less than we'd spend on care so it makes sense for me to stay home for awhile. But I am sad to be leaving the center. It's been a great learning place for my kids for a long time. 
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  • We are hoping to find in-home part-time nanny care, but other than making that decision have not yet started looking for a nanny. We are both very much opposed to day care. 

    My husband works freelance, for himself, from home and will be the primary caregiver. But, he works, and we cannot afford for him to give that up altogether. He says it will be easier for him to focus on care in the morning if he can have a few hours every afternoon to focus on work. Maine Dept of Health and Human Services does a child care cost study every year, and for 2016 in-home care from a nanny or other unlicensed provider were $150/wk (full time), down to $90/wk for half time.  We're going to use that as a benchmark and see what we can find. 

    Like others, diversity would be such a blessing if we can find the right caregiver. Our area is home to a large refugee and immigrant population from East Africa. I love the idea of having a caregiver from that community: the cultural learning, plus being able to play a small part in welcoming and helping support a member of that community. I recently, however, wondered whether we would have any trouble securing such a caregiver given my husband works from home. The vast majority of the members of the refugee community here are Muslim. Would a Muslim woman be able to work in my home with my husband there (without me)? 

    Alternatively, we have several colleges in our area with early education programs. I thought to start looking in September to see if any student is interested in an afternoon caregiving job while at school. 
  • car1acar1a member
    Maine Dept of Health and Human Services does a child care cost study every year, and for 2016 in-home care from a nanny or other unlicensed provider were $150/wk (full time), down to $90/wk for half time.  We're going to use that as a benchmark and see what we can find. 
    Let me preface this by saying that I haven't looked into prices yet, but I was also considering part-time in home nanny care for spring. Obviously it can differ based on state, but I figured it would be much more expensive. How could it be that someone could earn only $150/week for 40 hours of work? I'm not sure how minimum wage factors in, but this would be only $3.75/hr. I wonder if that price is more capturing people who do nanny shares with multiple people paying that to one nanny (3+)??
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  • edited July 2017
    Like others, diversity would be such a blessing if we can find the right caregiver. Our area is home to a large refugee and immigrant population from East Africa. I love the idea of having a caregiver from that community: the cultural learning, plus being able to play a small part in welcoming and helping support a member of that community. I recently, however, wondered whether we would have any trouble securing such a caregiver given my husband works from home. The vast majority of the members of the refugee community here are Muslim. Would a Muslim woman be able to work in my home with my husband there (without me)? 
     
    This would be a personal decision on her part. 

  • @car1a- I had a similar reaction! I have a hard time believing that is the market rate in Maine (and in my county in particular) for weekly care, given it is below the state minimum wage. But, DHHS has updated this study annually. In the last 4 years it has not changed much.  Perhaps your state has a similar study?

    We recently moved from Boston.  The stark difference in child care costs has stupified me. 
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