June IVF

Hopeful_mom · June 2017

Aera11 its the cost and the storage too, I have no room. I take 4 powders which is pretty much 1 full box of menupar so thats about at least 10 boxes a cycle yay me

liljoy I think because my cycle is acting loopy makes me want to re-test probably more! Its frustrating that everything is still so up in the air.

artemis618 this is no picnic at all! Isn't everyone with IF tough. I really feel like a professional ivf'er its crazy! I know you were hoping for more but like I said let this 5 pull all the way through!! Do you think after this you'll to an FET? Do you know the gender? You should know when I was pregnant and could find out I didn't and first found out after I MC.

bionerdsteph · June 2017

@liljoy ok I was a little stoned from polyp removal sorry, I read a bit more on PGS- the DNA sequencing behind it is what I know & if a lab is using next generation sequencing the testing procedure should be accurate if the lab is descents, if they are using older procedures u should not be getting tested there. It seems like how/when they sample from the embryo you can get variation. I assumed they took from day 3ish when it's still a ball of cells but it's become much more common to take from a day 5ish from the extra embryonic tropho ectoderm, TE (becomes amniotic sac & all the extra embryonic stuff) which is much more mosaic & weird than the inner cell mass that becomes the embryo. So if they are sampling from the TE it is much more mosaic & unreliable. If they sample earlier it's more dependable but the chances of harming the 3 day ball embryo are higher so labs started doing the later TE sampling. I think they can also take a polar body from a fertilized egg, more tricky but super accurate. Still reading up on this- need to talk to my RE now. I think they sample at 3 days.

Hopeful_mom · June 2017

bionerdsteph my samples were definitely taken from 5 day blasts as they wait to see who will make it to freeze to know which ones to test....but I'm assuming because i believe thats what they told me so i will have to check with the RE. However how crazy or shall i say accurate do you think it is if I thaw my embryos to re-test the abnormal ones. Am I living in a dream world?

artemis618 · June 2017

@Aera11@hopeful_mom Thanks for your support. I certainly don't mean to sound ungrateful and whiney - I am disappointed but there is still hope.

@Hopeful_mom Our plan is to go back to trying naturally for a few months, even if this means another *TW* loss (or a few - we got through the last one, and that may just be our path - though it's not like we have time to go thru 8 more) . We didn't have any problem getting pregnant the month after we got married last year, it's staying pregnant that seems to be the challenge. I got the gender with our (normal) NIPT results for our loss, I wanted to know but kept it from DH till we lost her because he didn't want to know (though he thought it was a girl and he was right). Since we've just the one, we'll probably keep the gender of our frostie a surprise - also because we know the odds still aren't great and we'd rather not get too attached (as if we could help it).

EDIT: DH also wants to revisit my few artemis618sicles from almost 5 years ago at year end if needed.

Momifbysea · June 2017

I found out yesterday my estradiol went up to 1572, which was almost double where it was last cycle, and my E levels have been double all the way along stims this cycle. Hoping that might mean better egg quality? My retrieval is Wednesday morning.

@artemis618 thinking of you. The waiting is hard and I've wondered like you, if we have a path that is going to require many of these cycles. The first IVF we were like "ok we will try this once and that's it." Now on cycle 2 we are already talking about being happy we have leftover meds for the 3rd time, etc. it kind of sucks you in and we are stubborn, slow to quit on something we want!

@bionerdsteph I'm glad to hear you got the polyps out and are recovering. One more hurdle cleared, right?

@Hopeful_mom, yes, what you said, "a professional ivf'er!" I'm getting there too. What cycle is this for you? At my labs/ U/S yesterday there were 2 women waiting and they said they were both IVF veterans but both had had success and were there for a second (hopefully) child. It was nice to see living proof it works and of course I told them that!

brooklyngirl18 · June 2017

**lurking** good luck @momifbysea I'm glad to see you're about to have another retrieval. best of luck to you.

Hopeful_mom · June 2017

Momifbysea I'm currently in cycle 7 and I'm laughing as I'm sitting here ordering more meds as I'm not going to make it with what I have...will I really need another ugh - hope not! It was cycle 3 that (TW) I got pregnant with my twins...so i really thought i was like one and done, yes...and now i'm here on my 4th cycle in a row...It's tough getting past that part. I'm stubborn why i'm still at it! Your E2 is fantastic - how many follies are u looking at? Guess this means you triggered last night? So exciting to be done with shots congrats! Can't wait to hear your update tomorrow - wishing you lots of mature eggs ready t be fertilized!!

artemis618 (TW) its wonderful that you have had success in getting pregnant naturally now we just need you to stay pregnant! I think it great that you do have that as a fall back - so that is huge! Its nice your DH is really in it with u. Mine was not happy that I was pregnant with twins so we didn't even go over what I was carrying even though I knew there was one if not two girls on board. Its taken a long time to just not keep arguing about wanting to be pregnant with twins again. I just feel like what i had should be returned to me. I know thats not how its works but i wish it did! To have your dream taken a way just like that is so unfair. And i'm sorry if I can't whine here then really whats the point. We shouldn't have to apologize for being upset, angry, whiney or anything having to go through this sh@t! Thats my 2 cents

i'm glad you still have your younger darlings still waiting for u! You have a great plan in place and thats a good thing!! Do you think u'll try naturally before doing a transfer? I wish I couldve done that!

AFM: I had a special treat and my RE did my monitoring today - I mean what a surprise that was!! I told her I was a bit concerned and she felt like everything was fine as I usually progress late...I just reminded her that I think its a lil later then my usual. She still saw the 3 on the right but they didn't grow all that much in 2 days all still under 9. This was funny she's not sure if she saw 2 or 3 on the Left. The 2 on the left grew to 12 and 13.5 so i'm adding the cetritide tonight in hopes the smaller ones can catch up and keep growing with these two. The big concern is what if they dont!! My E2 did rise in the 200s now so have to hope on thursday my report will be ever better then that!! I have a feeling this is going to be my longest stemming cycle! Hoping all this cooking are making them super strong eggs!

OH and since I was with my RE I asked about retesting some embabies and like I suspected she thinks i'm nuts and said it will be a last resort. liljoy bionerdsteph hope ur feeling better today!

Aera11 · June 2017

@artemis618 we can whine all we want! So if you need to, we're all here for you! With everything we all go through, we're allowed to feel what we need to when we need to.

Good luck tomorrow @Momifbysea! Update us when you're feeling up for it.

That's great your RE got to do your monitoring today @Hopeful_mom

mine is hard to pin down but she's amazing and did give me her cell phone, so I think that helps ease my anxiety knowing I can get in touch with her if needed. Hoping those follies catch up to the others! Cetrotide always makes me itchy wherever I inject.

Just got the call that my retrieval will be Thursday morning! Finally! I'm triggering with two Ovidrel tonight and go for a blood draw tomorrow. My numbers were looking good today, so I assumed I would be done stimming...I wouldn't have had enough meds to do another night. Estradiol was 3,095 and everything else was looking good.

artemis618 · June 2017

Thanks @Momifbysea @Hopeful_mom @Aera11

@Momifbysea We're now wondering if our path involves having to endure multiple *TW* losses, but we wouldn't have known how IVF would go had we not tried. Our embryos just don't appear to like IVF much. My estrogen was also much higher with my second (much improved) cycle than with my first. Best of luck with your retrieval tomorrow!

@Hopeful_mom We'll try this coming cycle after AF comes. Even though I've only done three retrievals this year, it will be the first cycle I'll have had no drugs in my system (had to start the lupron in between cycles for suppression). We got *TW* with my July cycle last year and i can't believe it's already been nearly a year. I really am glad I waited for my DH despite all these infertility issues. Our first anniversary is next weekend and neither of us expected that so much of our first year of marriage would be consumed by all this stuff. It'll be #1 for him too, so perhaps that's why he's a little more enthusiastic. Despite going to a (satellite office of a) big public university clinic, I've seen my RE or her partner RE for every monitoring appointment. I didn't even realize that it was common for people not to see their doctors every time.

@Aera11 Yay for being almost done with shots! I've wanted to trigger with two doses of Ovidrel (should also help with maturity) after reading on the interwebs how sometimes one is insufficient, but this past cycle my estradiol was 5900 the morning of trigger and my RE wouldn't have it. Hope this cycle is SO much better!

funkykey · June 2017

Oh man guys, this board is so busy, I am finding it hard to keep up!

@artemis618 - I am keeping my fingers crossed for your 5 little ones. I don't think you sound ungrateful or whiny - this is really stressful!

What are your artemis618sicles? Frozen eggs?

@Aera11 - Exciting! GL tonight. Am curious how tomorrow's E2 will look. Hopefully really good.

@ttcndc - welcome! Good luck! Looks like you will do retrieval soon!

@Momifbysea - keeping FX for you! Exciting re E2! I'm hoping for better egg quality this time too!

@bionerdsteph - ugh, Dr Oz!

Hope you are recovering well from the polyp procedure!

@Hopeful_mom - Sometimes being stubborn is good.

I'm hoping you have super strong eggs this time too, and that you get a couple more PGS normal!

AFM: I am just waiting. Waiting to start suppressing. Everything seems to have taken so long. I've also started having nightmares - like waking up in the middle of the night because I've dreamt that they retrieved no eggs, or that they retrieved some but none fertilized.

This is really stressful. Whew. And it doesn't seem to matter how much deep breathing or yoga I do. I'm trying to keep my head in the game and just keep moving forward, keep talking to my friends and keep living my life, even though I'm not sleeping so well.

liljoy-2 · June 2017

@bionerdsteph Yes, they PGS the day 5 blastocysts these days, therefore the sampled cells for analysis are from the outside (the ones that develop into the placenta, not the embryo). Therefore, some theorize that the placenta can have some abnormal cells while the embryo inside is ok or can self-correct, that's why some "abnormal" embryos implanted end up healthy babies.
All that I read about it plus my own very experience made me NOT believe in the PGS results at all, so I'm at square 1 now, thinking all my embryos should have a chance. If I were to do IVF again, I'd never do PGS.

Holls214 · June 2017

Stims day 4 for me. I have PCOS and almost a 7 AMH typically. First US today and counted 20+ follicles. Anyone have advice for headaches during stims?! My head is going to explode... also so strange feeling your ovaries growing. Sorry first time IVF here after 7 failed IUI's.

Aera11 · June 2017

@Holls214 I get headaches in the beginning of stims too, it's the hormone change. I drink tons of water, usually have a small coffee or even coke if it gets really bad, the small amount of caffeine has helped. I don't know if you use essential oils but I diffuse peppermint too and that has really helped!

Aera11 · June 2017

Thanks @funkykey! The two Ovidrel are a piece of cake, thankfully.

Hopeful_mom · June 2017

Aera11 YAY FOR TRIGGERING!!! this cycle seems so promising really excited for you!! and a lil nervous hoping you have a much easier time recovering from your ER!

@artemis618 thats impressive you see an RE all the time, I might see them walking by but never usually for a monitoring appt. It was when one of my cycles I had disappearing follies that the had the RE look me over, but other then that its always been the tech. I'm actually afraid how much more it would cost for the RE to actually do it! I do hope you'll get you're miracle naturally first!

funkykey you didn't even start meds and already having vivid dreams OY, try and relax! Usually IVF really does work the first time for people so try to think of it that way. You have no reason to think that everything wont be great for u! I applaud u for keeping on living ur life thats one thing I have a very hard time doing!

Holls214 welcome and sorry you find yourself here - i did 7iui as well, its a bummer they dont work but then exciting to move on to IVF and hope to have success with that. 20 is a great start hopefully they will all grow together for you. I have had quite a few headaches through all of this and take tylenol when it gets to be too much.

artemis618 · June 2017

@Momifbysea Thinking of you this morning (PST)!

@funkykey Thanks - yes, the artemis618sicles are just a few (9) frozen eggs from right after I turned 35 in 2012. So it's not like they're from when I was 25 (vitrification wasn't even a thing then - not to mention from where I would have gotten the money), and I worry a little bit about the quality since they're from an antagonist cycle like my first disastrous cycle from this year. Also, that RE doesn't want us to thaw, inseminate, biopsy, re-freeze, and re-thaw (a lot to ask of them), so we wouldn't PGS test if we were to go that route at the end of the year. It is all really stressful and tough decisions to make along the way. For the most part, taking it day by day has gotten me through (since there was usually *something* I was supposed to be doing each day for the better part of this year with priming or suppression or stims). Hang in there!

@Hopeful_mom I don't know about impressive (seeing my RE every time) as I don't know that it's helped any! I admit I got much better service overall when I froze my eggs with a private clinic - my current clinic has a bit of an HMO-like feel to it, but I knew for sure they were in network for my insurance, and my second cycle went better so we decided to just stay for this last OOP cycle (I just paid a cash package rate that included u/s). My old RE (who has the frozen artemis618sicles) didn't even push us to cycle with him - he's actually the one who suggested one more cycle then going back to trying naturally since that's how we got KU before.

@Holls214 Also make sure you're drinking enough water! Hope the headaches subside.

Momifbysea · June 2017

Hey. You won't believe this but out of at least 5 sacs on each side, I wake up to the nightmare of the dr telling me only 1 had an egg in it. The only plus side is that that egg looks good, but I'm having a tough time. Our first IVF we had 8 out of 8 sacs with eggs retrieved! I asked at if he would recommend we try again and he said he would lean against it. I'm feeling old and like he's giving up on me. I need to process all this.

Hopeful_mom · June 2017

Momifbysea I just went to look at your last update, ur E2 was over 1500 so how is that possible to just get one? I'm so very sorry this happened, I was so upset when I had one empty this cycle so I can only imagine how you feel. I'm not sure its on this board but another girl switched RE because she had more empty then she should have and on her next round with another RE she did much better. I believe she said her new RE just felt that the dr wasn't as skilled at doing the ER. Her name is escaping right now...sorry! Hang in there and dont give up. Hopefully this will be the only golden egg you need! will you do a fresh transfer?

Aera11 · June 2017

I'm so sorry @Momifbysea

I've had empty follicles too and know how gut wrenching that is to hear some were empty. My RE tried a different pipette (I think that's what she called it) last time; she said sometimes the eggs are buried a bit and that smaller pipette helps locate them if they are infact hiding. Let's hope that one egg is THE ONE like @Hopeful_mom said. Take good care of yourself today.

Momifbysea · June 2017

@Hopeful_mom my re sounded like the E2 didn't necessarily correspond to number of eggs but that could just be my interpretation. We are doing PGS even if only with one. He highly recommended it, recommends to everyone but especially as I am 42 and he says on avg 1 in 11 of eggs in my age group are normal. My clinic's success rate is about 75% for those doing PGS first.

Hopeful_mom · June 2017

Momifbysea the E2 has to do with something, they always test it to make sure its rising and you had a great one to go with 5 eggs. I'm frustrated for you and certainly not trying to make it worse! Hoping u'll get your normie! It only takes one and i'm trying to remind myself o that now too!

Momifbysea · June 2017

@Hopeful_mom, yeah, I know it means something, all along they've been telling me "great rise, looks good!" I'm just so frustrated I feel like I couldn't get to the bottom of it with the re today. When he calls with my day 6 report I'll try to dig further. I hate feeling like I'm not getting good explanations. I'm still left with thinking my E2 was at least double last cycle all the way along, so what the heck happened?!?

ETA: I guess my next ? For RE will be, okay, if it isn't necessarily corresponding to NUMBER, then is it to QUALITY? If they're monitoring it so carefully then they should be easily able to tell me why! So frustrating.

funkykey · June 2017

@Momifbysea - I'm sorry.

But FX that this egg is a really good one! Sending you lots of good vibes.

Hopeful_mom · June 2017

Momifbysea I would also get a second opinion especially if hes telling you not to do another cycle. Were you wearing Estrogen patches this cycle? They have me take mine off once I start cycling to make sure my follies are producing estrogen.

Momifbysea · June 2017

I wasn't wearing estrogen patches, have yet to use those. Thanks for being so supportive, I'm just laying here in bed trying not to cry. I went from such a high this morning to such a low. I literally don't know what to do with myself but feel that birthday clock ticking away. Sorry to be blah on here.

Momifbysea · June 2017

@Hopeful_mom how long did you wait between IVF'! I feel like you had an ER in May, right? Do you do a month of BCP in between or jump right back in to stims? I'm feeling I have no time to waste.

artemis618 · June 2017

I'm SO sorry to hear that @Momifbysea

. Fingers crossed for your one! Take care of yourself today.

IF you do another antagonist cycle (I had planned to after my first cycle this year, then deciddd to switch protocols), you could be on OCP (I've never estrogen primed) for just a couple of weeks starting with your next CD3 to start stims again with your next one. At least that was the initial calendar that they gave me to start again. With my luteal lupron protocol I've had to wait a cycle in between to start lupron for suppression after I ovulate, so it effectively takes two cycles.

Hopeful_mom · June 2017

@Momifbysea No BCP ever!! see i have low amh and regardless after all the reading I did on here and else where i didn't want to supress at all and my RE agreed. With the few eggs i make i can't imagine supressing would help me. You are correct I did May. (TW) I MC in Jan waited for my beta to go to zero and I think I started on my first AF, was it smart? Probably not. Even though i had the best response I got no normies from that cycle. I haven't missed a cycle since. I've done 4 cycles back to back. March, April, May and June. We shall see what my US shall say tomorrow. Age being a factor does suck! I I did get 2 normies back to back...hoping that success can continue

Studies have not shown taking a cycle off helps or not. I have been a believer that if my body is ready then I go. I had a cyst and pushed my body twice into cycles where i probably shouldnt have. My RE knows the rush i'm in and pretty much has let me run the show on that and give me her opinion. Cry if you need to and let it out, its not good to hold it in...theres so many emotions through this. The way you're feeling I went through with my last ER and it literally was for that one empty one and the other being on the immature side BUT in the end i to get 2 normies back...lets hope that your normie is on the way!! I'm surprised with the one you didn't want to do a fresh transfer - thats all i want to do BUT because of that fun age clock I dont anymore booooo.

Momifbysea · June 2017

@hopeful_mom thanks for sharing about the suppression, that gives me something to bring up when I get the call today about fert. As for fresh transfer he strongly advised against due to "1 of 11 not being junk" for me. I know the wording sounds crass but he said it sensitively in that he hates to put anyone through a transfer that doesn't end well so strongly advocates we know we have a good one before putting a patient through that physically, emotionally, and financially. **TW** maybe I'd feel different if I didn't have a 3yo but DH and I agree we want to be as careful as we can so hopefully at our ages we only have to transfer once. **end TW**

@Aera11 you mentioned having empty follicles before...did you then go on to have a subsequent round where you had improvement with less empty? I guess I'm trying to wrap my head around why my RE would seem so against trying again when my first IVF cycle in April I had 8/8 retrieved, no empty. It just seems kind of glass half empty to me to look at one good cycle and one subsequent bad cycle and then decide against by choosing to only look at the bad one. Unless these empties indicate a trend that I've run out of eggs?Anyhow, back to the present, I'm thinking of you for your retrieval this morning and sending good thoughts!!! I'm praying for positive results for you!

artemis618 · June 2017

@Momifbysea Like @Hopeful_mom I don't use OCP for my cycles any more (though lupron can be more suppressive for some people, Inwas only on 10 unit she going down to 5 with stims - some people do double that AND OCP overlapping a little bit). It is *supposed* to be better for synchrony though - worked out okay for me last cycle, less so for this one. It's frustrating but true that each cycle is different. I'd also had one bad cycle and one "good" one before this current cycle (though I changed protocols because the bad on repeat was so bad/first) - I repeated the protocol from the last and got a different result. I think it's frustrating, but as much analysis as we do, there is still so much unknown about this process.

. We also thought about transferring last cycle if we only had a few prospects like we did our first cycle - our rationale was (and still is) that maybe our embryos just don't like IVF and we won't get the benefit of screening. But as you mentioned, we are also working on our first. Hope your one is a winner!

GL today @Aera11 Fingers crossed for lots of beautiful eggs!

JaeJayStark · June 2017

@bionerdsteph How’d the saline ultrasound go? I have mine next week. My RE also put me on BCPs for suppression.

@funkykey Hey girl hey! I am right here with you and so glad you have gotten started. Today I had a well-intended friend ask me when my “IVF appointment” is. Yes, appointment singular. I laughed and sent her my calendar. My closest friends and family have no idea and I am over here in tears, spending hours calling pharmacies to find the best prices.

AFM, on BCPs . Start meds next Friday June 16th. I’m completely overwhelmed.

funkykey · June 2017

@JaeJayStark - Hey girl back at cha!

OMG. I have a friend who is on a "babymoon" right now, and I'm so jealous, it makes me feel sick. Like, while she and her H are exploring back roads of Italy, eating all the pasta they want, blissfully pregnant after 3 months of concerted trying, I'm here brown-bagging my lunch and taking the bus to work so I could scrape together enough to buy my drugs... no way can I pay for parking too.

And if we're lucky enough to get pregnant - if I'm lucky enough that it works - there's no chance we'll go on a babymoon. More like try to pay off as much of our IVF debt as possible so we don't have to struggle so much when baby comes.

For sure, IF has affected my friendship with her. It's really hard to be friends with someone who has it all when you've been hit by a truck and are just trying to piece enough together to move forward.

Momifbysea · June 2017

Hey, got my RE call this morning. I'm pasting this from my post in ttc over 35 since I'm at work and don't have time to write it again...the 1 egg retrieved did not fertilize. He said these calls are so hard and I said "well look at it this way: my brother (who is a neurosurgeon) has to tell families their person died sometimes. I'm still very much alive today and healthy and I might add, stubborn in that if you told me to go home and start injecting tonight for a chance I would do it!" He actually chuckled a bit and said I was very sweet but that days like yesterday are the days he goes home and pets his dog. He said they all ride this roller coaster with us. I told him my biggest disappointment yesterday was him saying he'd lean against another round. I feel so much better as he just told me he's willing to continue w more rounds if we are. He thinks weve seen the two extremes - a success with 8/8 in April and now the low end. We will not change protocol.

JaeJayStark · June 2017

@Momifbysea so very sorry for the disappointing news. It sounds like you have an awesome doctor for sure!

funkykey · June 2017

@Momifbysea - I'm sorry for the bad news, but glad you are feeling like you can move forward. Ugh. Sending you big hugs and lots of good vibes!

Aera11 · June 2017

@Momifbysea the first round I only had 3 retrieved out of 8 mature looking follicles, round two I had 6 retrieved out of 8. My re said it wasn't uncommon to see one empty but I had multiple. What I changed from round one to two was acupuncture and her technique/tools. I have no idea what made the difference and it certainly was a significant leap but it was an improvement even if both ended with bfn. I'm sorry your egg didn't make it but happy to hear your re will let you go again if you want.

thanks @artemis618!

No complications with today's retrieval! No nausea but super sore and I've been throwing up all day. My body and anesthesia just don't get along no matter what. They retrieved 9 eggs! Another jump from last time, so now we wait.

funkykey · June 2017

@Aera11 - Great news! FX!

Hopeful_mom · June 2017

Aera11 yay for 9 - way to go!! How do you have no nausea but have been throwing up all day, I thought that goes hand in hand, UGH I'm so sorry your body does not like anesthesia. The RE is like get ready for the best sleep of your life...but the trip really isn't that fun for u, hopefully its all worth it! Glad to hear there wasn't crazy bleeding though so this does sounds like a better outcome already - really hoping it continues!! (TW) noticing your 2 mc sorry for your loss! Did you ever find out why you MC?

@Momifbysea OMG I love your RE he really sounds like such a mench!! I have to say that you truly have an amazing attitude and i admire you! I can't say I'm that gracious throughout this process. Were they doing regular fert or icsi? I forgot about the ttc over 35 felt it was quite...I cut and paste all the time...doesn't everyone

did u say you have a 3yo? was that through IVF?

funkykey yea thats a tough pill to swallow as we all have to. Does she understand the process you're going through? Unfortunately we all have different journies and we dont know what the future holds. Maybe you're suppose to take that trip as a family and not solo.

AFM: I have to say my US was anything but great this AM - as I was expecting the 2 follies on the left are the only follies really cooperating they had a growth spert and are at 16 and 17, I have the ones on the right at 10 and 11....so its really not looking to great.. Why cant one cycle just go smoothly...I just dont know what i'm doing yet. My E2 did go up to over 300 so thats good they said. My RE actually called me as I was wondering what she would suggest. AND I have to tell you she seemed way more optimistic then me and still felt that the other 2 on the right could still catch up...they're going to need a magical burst tonight so i guess we shall see. At this point I'll be back to the RE everyday till ER I believe. Would you all like that cake topper my RE is expecting and its about 4 weeks after i was due. Meaning she was preggers when I MC. SO now hopefully I will get preggers and she'll probably be out on maternity leave by then, i mean what are the odds!!! Shes trying to cover up, not like shes not entitled to a life. Her clock is ticking too so she needs to listen to all those stats she tells her patients right

Aera11 · June 2017

Thanks @Hopeful_mom! I know, I'm surprised I was throwing up but not nausea. It's like my body needs to immediately purge the medicine. I always have trouble breathing too, so napping is hard...but by the next day I'm usually good. I'm anxious to see how many fertilize! Our number has been two the last two rounds, so I'm hoping with more eggs maybe we'll get at least 3. I'd love to be able to freeze anything so I can take a break. *TW* my first MC was really early, my RE said most likely chemical. My second one was a bit further along; the baby was tested and had an extra chromosome. DH and I both checked out so the doctor believed it to be a fluke. I was glad we tested the fetus bc it gave us closure knowing the cause and gender.

That's good that your RE is still optimistic! When do you think your retrieval will be? One of the ultrasound techs at my clinic just had a baby and it was so nice she was gone during this past cycle. I get she needs to have a life too but her bedside manner was horrible. If you're pregnant working in a fertility clinic, you need to be a little sensitive to the patients you see. I think she'll be doing my transfer on Sunday if I have one...

Hopeful_mom · June 2017

Aera11 ugh so sorry!! thats just so hard but nice to have closure - thats what makes it more manageable, maybe... I think knowing at least one embaby was normal still makes me angry that my body just couldn't hold onto her! Anyone working in a clinic that does not have good manners should work else where OMG, i can't. My RE is so private about it i found out by accident shes all covered up - its kind of funny! Shes totally just going on about her day! I'm feeling very optimistic for you!!

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