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Not my first IVF rodeo

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Re: Not my first IVF rodeo

  • @mtpbadger- o man, your MIL. Can you just have a couple drinks and get a little tipsy at lunch to make it less painful? :) Hang in there. I dread this weekend too. People just have no idea unless they are struggling. I plan to go for a 10 mile hike around a beautiful lake on sunday and stay off social media. I told my DH that while I'm not a mother yet, as far I am concerned i get to do whatever I want on Mothers Day since while my 3 embabies only made it to a few hundred cells and only a few days, that still counts as babies in my heart. 

    @thucks- I haven't seen anything different between a day 5 or 6 either. I would technically, day 5 have a little better success since they grew a little faster to be frozen on day 5, but sooo many poeple have success with day 6 too, i doubt the difference is significant. 

    @20T- yayyy!!! thats so exciting to start. as long as its not producing estrogen, you are good to go! What doses are you doing?
    History in Spoiler

    Age: 32 (same with DH). Together since 2006, Married June 2013 and TTC since August 2015
    Diagnosis: Mild Endo, DOR (AMH of 1.5), Poor Quality Eggs/embryos, Displaced Window of Implantation (ERA Post Receptive)
    March-May 2016: 1 TI and 2 IUIs- BFN 
    June 2016- Laproscopy- found/removed mild endo and confirmed only 1 normal healthy ovary.
    August 2016- IVF #1 with Antagonist Protocol- Cancelled (2 lead follies), converted to IUI- BFN
    Oct-Nov 2016- IVF #2 with Estrogen Priming Micro Lupron Protocol, 2 eggs retrieved, day 3 transfer of 1- BFN
    January 2017- New RE, IVF#3 with Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol, 12 eggs, 8 mature, 6 fertilized, 2 day 5 early blasts transferred (none to freeze :(), BFN
    May 2017- Sept 2017- Starting Donor Egg process! Waiting for donor to be available... and then she is pregnant at baseline :(
    Oct 2017- Donor #2: 25R, 22M,18F, 12 blasts frozen! Fresh transfer cancelled due to thin lining with fluid :(
    Nov 2017- Hysterscopy to remove polyp
    Dec 2017- DE FET #1 on 12/8 on 2 perfect blasts- BFN and devastated
    Jan-Mar 2018- ERA #1- Post receptive by 24 hours, ERA #2 RECEPTIVE with 4 days of Progesterone
    Apr 2018- DE FET cancelled for lining issues :(
    Jun 2018- DE FET #2 of two 1AA blasts- first BFP ever! Beta 10dp5dt- 378, Beta 14dp5dt- 2840, Beta 16dp5dt- 4035, beta 18dp5dt- 10916. Due on 2/20 with one baby after a vanishing twin
    Baby Born born early @ 33.5 weeks due to Pre-e
    Back for # 2!
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  • @20T thank you! Glad you are able to get started with round #3, hopefully third time is a charm!

    @jamieh2000 I wish I could have a few drinks but then I'm afraid I will say something inappropriate. I try and bite my tongue as much as possible when around her (so basically I don't say much!) which she comments on then too. I can't win with her. That sounds like a fabulous way to spend the day! DH and I will be going to a baseball game (he splits seasons tickets with a group of guys). If the weather was going to be nice on Saturday we were going to go hiking but rain is in the forecast all day.  

  • 20T20T member
    Thanks @mtpbadger and @JamieH2000!! I'm actually doing a weird protocol this month, but one my RE says he's seen success with in people like me (DOR, possible egg quality issues?). I start 7.5mg of Femara tomorrow for 5 days and on day 3 I add in 225iu of Follistim. 
  • @mtpbadget I am so with you.  I don’t do well with the mothers day wishes.  I get it but its oh oh so depressing.  You MIL sounds like a real treat.  Good luck not strangling her, and if you do try not to have any witnesses ;)

    @thucks I agree with @mtpbadget I don’t think there is a different between the 5day and 6day.  If it were up to me I would probably try the 5day first just because its the traditional amount of days but I admit thats a pretty lame reason.

    @20T congrats on getting the clearance for stims!!! I hope you have a successful round.

    AFM:  Still waiting to hear about my blasts hopefully I'll get a call this weekend but they probably won't call until Monday.  Meanwhile in insurance HELL.  I’m not really sure whats going on.  Apparently meds are included in my lifetime max but that was not what I was told before and not what my clinic was told.  So I had to pay for my biopsy and embryo freezing by credit card over the phone today….lovely.  I knew the PGS was out of pocket so at least thats not a surprise.  I'm not sure where in the IVF process I hit the max but I may be able to appeal the denial for the other services because they provided a wrong value when we checked (it was actually checked 3 times and they gave us the same number all three times) so I have a chance of getting what was already done covered.  But yeah this puts my frozen transfer on hold since that is an extra $5,000.  I’m fortunate to have another insurance option through my employer but cant switch until January and they will cover us if we have 6 failed cycles under the guidance of a doctor before they cover anything because we are same sex couple.  So I may be doing an unmonitored vaginal insemination by a doctor just to get one more negative pregnancy test under my belt, and then I can bask in the glory of 50% coverage.  Ridiculous.  I’m trying not to stress so much.  I’m just hoping it will all be worth it in the end.  

    Me:38 DW:33 
    TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned 
    Dx: My wife has no sperm  :D and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look
    2016

     * April IUI#1 - BFN
     * June IUI#2 - BFN
     * July IUI#3 - CP  :'(
     * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts.  Fresh Transfer 1  - CP  :'(
     * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP  :'(
    2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
     * April/May IVF#2:  9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts!  Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
     * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
     * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
    2018 DD born 8/20/18
    2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
      * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7  Beta#2: 322.6

  • @2momshoping- the insurance in this country is a disgrace. On my bucket list is to participate in Resolves advocacy day, assuming I ever get my happy ending and can spend money to travel to D.C. Instead of using all my vacation on treatments. I really think you should appeal and fight it. I'm sure it's impossible but try not to stress too much right now. I really hope you don't need to another IUI. It's completely ridiculous if they have different rules for same sex couples. Gosh I hope our generation can change some of the outreagous things in our country soon. Sending so many prayers your way for healthy embryos!
    History in Spoiler

    Age: 32 (same with DH). Together since 2006, Married June 2013 and TTC since August 2015
    Diagnosis: Mild Endo, DOR (AMH of 1.5), Poor Quality Eggs/embryos, Displaced Window of Implantation (ERA Post Receptive)
    March-May 2016: 1 TI and 2 IUIs- BFN 
    June 2016- Laproscopy- found/removed mild endo and confirmed only 1 normal healthy ovary.
    August 2016- IVF #1 with Antagonist Protocol- Cancelled (2 lead follies), converted to IUI- BFN
    Oct-Nov 2016- IVF #2 with Estrogen Priming Micro Lupron Protocol, 2 eggs retrieved, day 3 transfer of 1- BFN
    January 2017- New RE, IVF#3 with Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol, 12 eggs, 8 mature, 6 fertilized, 2 day 5 early blasts transferred (none to freeze :(), BFN
    May 2017- Sept 2017- Starting Donor Egg process! Waiting for donor to be available... and then she is pregnant at baseline :(
    Oct 2017- Donor #2: 25R, 22M,18F, 12 blasts frozen! Fresh transfer cancelled due to thin lining with fluid :(
    Nov 2017- Hysterscopy to remove polyp
    Dec 2017- DE FET #1 on 12/8 on 2 perfect blasts- BFN and devastated
    Jan-Mar 2018- ERA #1- Post receptive by 24 hours, ERA #2 RECEPTIVE with 4 days of Progesterone
    Apr 2018- DE FET cancelled for lining issues :(
    Jun 2018- DE FET #2 of two 1AA blasts- first BFP ever! Beta 10dp5dt- 378, Beta 14dp5dt- 2840, Beta 16dp5dt- 4035, beta 18dp5dt- 10916. Due on 2/20 with one baby after a vanishing twin
    Baby Born born early @ 33.5 weeks due to Pre-e
    Back for # 2!
  • @2momshoping that sounds like a nightmare! As if dealing with IF isn't bad enough without insurance headaches! I really hope you can fight it and not have to deal with waiting until Jan and do another IUI just to please the insurance company. 

    @jamieh2000 if you ever travel to D.C., you'll have a free place to stay! I live about 7 miles south of D.C. 
  • HI ladies - a lil MIA work has been kicking my ass this week, having me take my meds late and everything!  Just hoping my cycle can still be successful!!!

    @jamieh2000  love the way your spending sunday - sounds lovely!  u deserve it.  I think about my embabies too and OH gets angry as he hates to see me upset...but still its hard when we are so close...yet soo far...

    @mtpbadger ur email was right on good for you and your MIL is a piece of work for sure.  Just smile and nod I'm sure it annoys her but at least its just lunch.  Does anyone get along with MIL.  I told my ex we weren't going to get married as his mother and I got a long so well...and I was right ;)

    @2momshoping sorry for the nightmare its just unreal how awful the lack coverage there is for IVF.  I will always say its important for a man to have an erection and get viagra, but we have to jump through hoops!  I hope @jamieh2000 can go make a difference, I'd love to help!!  It actually annoys me that all the celebrities out there that have used IVF dont speak out about it, like jimmy kimmel just recently did for healthcare.  We need someone advocating for us, and all those superstars having twins we know wasn't natural yet they all act like it was.  janet jackson come on now.  Makes me dislike them when they could be trying to make a difference but don't care as they have the money to afford any means necessary. 

    @20T  hoping 3rd time is the charm and ur on ur way!!!

    AFM:  Had my US this morning and happy to say that 6 have stuck around and still growing and another lil one popped up on the left at 5.5.  I'm a lil concerned with one of the right ones I don't think grew from 2 days ago...so I'm hoping the tech just measured it wrong and its ok.  Biggest is at 14 so I still have some time to go as long as they continue to grow together and this 14 stays at bay.  Seems there always seems to be an over achiever on the left that starts to get ahead of the game.  Pray they all keep on growing together.   I'm a freelancer and work project to project so I'm working on something short so its jam packed stress all at once, which is fine as I did get my BFP during a very stressful time, however the needing time off for ER will be tricky.  Its hard as you can't really call out sick or take a personal day UGH another joy of IF  s

    I'm also trying to get to acupuncture this cycle and since the MC she asked to see my BW.   Now my RE said everything is looked good however my acupuncturist disagreed.  She thinks the MTHFR being positive could have caused my MC and I should be on medication for it through the first trimester...so that makes me upset.  She also mentioned that my prolactin was above 25 and should take meds for that as well.  Its interesting how everyone looks at everything differently.  She also said I should be taking baby aspirin so I guess I will need to add that to my list of questions to the dr.  I really should start another thread asking others that MC if their REs said the same thing.  Now I'm more nervous then before, actually glad I'm in the middle of stemming and not prepping for an FET!!  Any thoughts?

    History of TTC in spoiler box
    TTC since 2014
    Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
    7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN 
    IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle :( RE thought I would get at least 10.
    IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
    IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F,  3DT)-BFP  with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks  :'( 
    IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP  (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal  :'( 
    IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! :)
    IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! :)
    IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!

  • @hopeful_mom While 25 is on the high side for prolactin, the levels can fluctuate throughout the day so I would ask to be retested before going on meds. Also if you were on any meds when getting tested that can impact it. My endocrinologist wouldn't test when I was on estrogen or progesterone bc that can elevate levels (prolactin is supposed to increase when we are pregnant and breastfeeding and it keeps us from ovulating). I don't think being on baby aspirin can hurt anything during your next FET but definitely stuff to ask your RE about!


  • mtpbadger my prolactin is actually 37.4 not that i know why or what it even is...haven't had time to play dr google on it...or why it would even be a concern.  All of the test were after my MC and my beta was 0, so I don't believe i was on any meds.  My hemoglobin is low too which is possible as i eat moe carbs then actual red meat I guess.  TO think that could actually be a reason to MC freaks me out though!!  You're grasping at straws to find something....its taking so long to get my normal embaby back if you will that i need it to go perfectly this next time!!

    AFM:  Had my follow up US this morning and I have to say I truly just wanted to skip it and sleep!!  Anyhoo I was concerned that my 14 on the left looked a lot bigger today and just got the call that it has indeed..19.5.  Which means another night of stemming and then I have to go back for US ugh!!!  On mothers day no less, what a cruel joke!!!  Seriously its unreal!!  I have 5 right now that are ranging from 14-19 so hopefully those will make it, 2 on the left are 9 and 10 so I have to really hope that tonight those 2 are greedy and soak up most of the meds and grow for mama.  Not one good rest all week, I will be super cracky this week for sure!!  Looks like ER is going to be tues or wed is my guess.
    History of TTC in spoiler box
    TTC since 2014
    Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
    7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN 
    IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle :( RE thought I would get at least 10.
    IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
    IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F,  3DT)-BFP  with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks  :'( 
    IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP  (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal  :'( 
    IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! :)
    IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! :)
    IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!

  • @JamieH2000 I totally agree it is crazy how there is this double standard for women’s healthcare.  I could rant forever.  I get is infertility treatments are expensive but I fail to see any other part of the body that “doesn’t” work where insurance companies get to say yeah we aren’t going to cover that because its expensive except for the female reproductive system…rant over. 

    @mtbadger I agree that going back to an IUI after two IVF treatments seems crazy but if thats what I have to do to get coverage it will be cheeper in the long run.  I’m hoping when I talk to a case worker they will also realize its crazy and just cover the FET but I’m pretty doubtful as it’s insurance so inherently riddled with red tape.  

    @hopeful_mom I don’t think a couple late doses will make a huge impact on your cycle.  Always best to take it at the same time but life does happen.  With you 6 still growing together sounds like a little lateness isn’t a big deal.  I’m not surprised you RE and acupuncturist are disagreeing seems like there are always a million opinions about what should or shouldn’t be done.  I’m glad you are following up with your RE to get to the bottom of it sometimes and RE may not think its important but if it does no harm they will add in what you are requesting.  This whole fertility thing is definitely not a standard protocol.  Good luck and hope the conversation with your RE gives you some peace

    AFM:  I have the best news ever.  Late yesterday afternoon I got the call from the embryologist.  I wasn’t expecting a call until day 6 so my first thought was crap they all arrested..I nearly just let it go to voicemail but picked up at the last second.  She said all 7 of our fertilized eggs have developed into good quality blasts!!!  My two “fair” blasts from IVF#1 did fine on the thaw and were able to be biopsied as well.  So I have 9 blasts chilling and all are on their way for PGS.  I have never had odds in my favor before and I just have to believe that there has to be a PGS normal in that group.  It is going to be a long two weeks waiting for those results but it is such a nice change of pace to feel truly hopeful in this process.  

    Me:38 DW:33 
    TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned 
    Dx: My wife has no sperm  :D and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look
    2016

     * April IUI#1 - BFN
     * June IUI#2 - BFN
     * July IUI#3 - CP  :'(
     * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts.  Fresh Transfer 1  - CP  :'(
     * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP  :'(
    2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
     * April/May IVF#2:  9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts!  Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
     * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
     * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
    2018 DD born 8/20/18
    2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
      * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7  Beta#2: 322.6

  • Hopeful_momHopeful_mom member
    edited May 2017
    Hi Ladies!!

    In hoping to be a part of this June FET for real!!!  Its first trigger time for me and ER on Tuesday.  I'm a bit nervous as I have 8 follies showing but only have the 5 that are measuring from 16 - 20.5  My 3 bigger ones are on the left.  I have another 3 on the left but they are smaller 10 and 11.  And they're not giving me any more meds for them so that I don't loose my bigger ones.  Just makes it concerning as my odds become less.  Lets hope all 5 are super strong!!  Just keep thinking positive thoughts for me ladies it worked last time 

    2MomsHoping I posted my excitement for you on the other boards!  And was going to ask about how the first two were biopsied and the fact they did so well after being thawed it really fantastic - you should have all the hope in the world!!  I have a feeling you'l be hearing some good news sooner then later!!
    History of TTC in spoiler box
    TTC since 2014
    Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
    7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN 
    IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle :( RE thought I would get at least 10.
    IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
    IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F,  3DT)-BFP  with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks  :'( 
    IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP  (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal  :'( 
    IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! :)
    IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! :)
    IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!

  • @mtpbadger- I do want to come to DC sometime! This is is the Resolve Advocacy day I think, which I really want to do some day. Hopefully I will at least be pregnant by this time next year (and you or your GC too!) and we could all go together and bug those politicians about IF coverage!

    @hopeful_mom- posted on the other thread, but can't wait for your (hopefully last) ER tomorrow!!

    @2momshoping- that is the best news ever! to get 7 good blasts from 7 eggs is definitely a miracle and totally better than the normal odds! My RE told me she expected 1-3 blasts from 6 fertilized, so you definitely blew that away. I really hope the PGS testing comes back sooner than 2 weeks! Hopefully you can enjoy a few weeks without shots :)
    History in Spoiler

    Age: 32 (same with DH). Together since 2006, Married June 2013 and TTC since August 2015
    Diagnosis: Mild Endo, DOR (AMH of 1.5), Poor Quality Eggs/embryos, Displaced Window of Implantation (ERA Post Receptive)
    March-May 2016: 1 TI and 2 IUIs- BFN 
    June 2016- Laproscopy- found/removed mild endo and confirmed only 1 normal healthy ovary.
    August 2016- IVF #1 with Antagonist Protocol- Cancelled (2 lead follies), converted to IUI- BFN
    Oct-Nov 2016- IVF #2 with Estrogen Priming Micro Lupron Protocol, 2 eggs retrieved, day 3 transfer of 1- BFN
    January 2017- New RE, IVF#3 with Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol, 12 eggs, 8 mature, 6 fertilized, 2 day 5 early blasts transferred (none to freeze :(), BFN
    May 2017- Sept 2017- Starting Donor Egg process! Waiting for donor to be available... and then she is pregnant at baseline :(
    Oct 2017- Donor #2: 25R, 22M,18F, 12 blasts frozen! Fresh transfer cancelled due to thin lining with fluid :(
    Nov 2017- Hysterscopy to remove polyp
    Dec 2017- DE FET #1 on 12/8 on 2 perfect blasts- BFN and devastated
    Jan-Mar 2018- ERA #1- Post receptive by 24 hours, ERA #2 RECEPTIVE with 4 days of Progesterone
    Apr 2018- DE FET cancelled for lining issues :(
    Jun 2018- DE FET #2 of two 1AA blasts- first BFP ever! Beta 10dp5dt- 378, Beta 14dp5dt- 2840, Beta 16dp5dt- 4035, beta 18dp5dt- 10916. Due on 2/20 with one baby after a vanishing twin
    Baby Born born early @ 33.5 weeks due to Pre-e
    Back for # 2!
  • thucksthucks member
    @2MomsHoping I only have 3 6dt left. My thought on the 5d vs 6d is if there is a difference I would be more inclined to transfer 2 of those vs 1 if 6d are less likely to work. 
    Me: 33  DH: 39
    Me: Endo, PCOS, 
    DH: low life span and mobility 
    Married and TTC since 12/2008
    3 IUI's in 2012
    IVF #1 BFN 08/2012
    IVF #2 11/2012 Twin Girls born at 35wks 7/2013
    ER 4/2016 Freeze all 11 embryo's 
    FET #1 5/2016 Transfer 1 BFN 
    FET #2 7/2016 Transfer 1 BFN 
    FET #3 09/2016 Thawed 3 Transfered 1 CP 
    FET #4 1/2017 Transfer 2 CP 
    FET #5 April 24, 2017 Transfering 1 BFN
    FET #6 June 8, 2017 Transfer 2 Beta #1 721 Beta #2 1363  
    US on 7/5 1 baby found EDD 2/24/18
    Insta acct ionlywant1more


  • thucksthucks member
    This weekend threw me. There were so many pregnancy announcements on fb I bought died. Like for real? But I really appreciated alot of the IF posts out there. TW yes I'm a mother but it's not that exciting of a day for me. I love being a mom but it's also still tough because of the IF it's weird.
    It kinda blows my mind to that so many have found out they are prego from POAS yet are like 12 weeks along and have yet to see a doc. Yet we are like 6 weeks and we have seen the doc a few times and have had ultrasounds. I feel blessed in this that when we finally get that BFP we get extra opportunities to see whats going on in there and monitor the progress more but our minds work a little different than those other people we need this reassurance huh. 
    Me: 33  DH: 39
    Me: Endo, PCOS, 
    DH: low life span and mobility 
    Married and TTC since 12/2008
    3 IUI's in 2012
    IVF #1 BFN 08/2012
    IVF #2 11/2012 Twin Girls born at 35wks 7/2013
    ER 4/2016 Freeze all 11 embryo's 
    FET #1 5/2016 Transfer 1 BFN 
    FET #2 7/2016 Transfer 1 BFN 
    FET #3 09/2016 Thawed 3 Transfered 1 CP 
    FET #4 1/2017 Transfer 2 CP 
    FET #5 April 24, 2017 Transfering 1 BFN
    FET #6 June 8, 2017 Transfer 2 Beta #1 721 Beta #2 1363  
    US on 7/5 1 baby found EDD 2/24/18
    Insta acct ionlywant1more


  • thucksthucks member
    Hey guys does the metformine make any of you feel funny? I feel kinda queezy after i take them and after I eat.  
    Me: 33  DH: 39
    Me: Endo, PCOS, 
    DH: low life span and mobility 
    Married and TTC since 12/2008
    3 IUI's in 2012
    IVF #1 BFN 08/2012
    IVF #2 11/2012 Twin Girls born at 35wks 7/2013
    ER 4/2016 Freeze all 11 embryo's 
    FET #1 5/2016 Transfer 1 BFN 
    FET #2 7/2016 Transfer 1 BFN 
    FET #3 09/2016 Thawed 3 Transfered 1 CP 
    FET #4 1/2017 Transfer 2 CP 
    FET #5 April 24, 2017 Transfering 1 BFN
    FET #6 June 8, 2017 Transfer 2 Beta #1 721 Beta #2 1363  
    US on 7/5 1 baby found EDD 2/24/18
    Insta acct ionlywant1more


  • @thucks yeah, the metformin makes my tummy off and gives me slight GI issues, which is a common side effect. I also find that I'm not really hungry and have to force myself to eat in order to take the meds. Prob b/c I know it will make me feel a little off, but then once I eat I tend to feel a little bit better. I've also noticed that if I eat a lot of crap (carbs, junk food, etc.) it makes me feel worse and my GI issues worse.
  • thucksthucks member
    @mtpbadger Thank you this is exactly how I have been feeling. I've been gaining weight every FET and I know that years ago metformin used to help control that and I want to be on it to help quality of eggs in case I do have to do a fresh cycle.  I'm the same way I don't want to eat cause I will feel funny but then if I eat right I'm good. I guess it's a good way to detour me from McDonalds lol. 
    Me: 33  DH: 39
    Me: Endo, PCOS, 
    DH: low life span and mobility 
    Married and TTC since 12/2008
    3 IUI's in 2012
    IVF #1 BFN 08/2012
    IVF #2 11/2012 Twin Girls born at 35wks 7/2013
    ER 4/2016 Freeze all 11 embryo's 
    FET #1 5/2016 Transfer 1 BFN 
    FET #2 7/2016 Transfer 1 BFN 
    FET #3 09/2016 Thawed 3 Transfered 1 CP 
    FET #4 1/2017 Transfer 2 CP 
    FET #5 April 24, 2017 Transfering 1 BFN
    FET #6 June 8, 2017 Transfer 2 Beta #1 721 Beta #2 1363  
    US on 7/5 1 baby found EDD 2/24/18
    Insta acct ionlywant1more


  • thucksthucks member
    OMG my DH is being so stubborn.  My goal is not to have another set of twins but to be on FET #6 maybe we should look at transferring 2. He is soooo against it it's crazy!! We have a phone apt with the RE today to make a decision as to how many to thaw/transfer. It's making it kinda hard cause there is a odd number of embryos. I don't know if we can come to an agreement on this ahh. 

    Me: 33  DH: 39
    Me: Endo, PCOS, 
    DH: low life span and mobility 
    Married and TTC since 12/2008
    3 IUI's in 2012
    IVF #1 BFN 08/2012
    IVF #2 11/2012 Twin Girls born at 35wks 7/2013
    ER 4/2016 Freeze all 11 embryo's 
    FET #1 5/2016 Transfer 1 BFN 
    FET #2 7/2016 Transfer 1 BFN 
    FET #3 09/2016 Thawed 3 Transfered 1 CP 
    FET #4 1/2017 Transfer 2 CP 
    FET #5 April 24, 2017 Transfering 1 BFN
    FET #6 June 8, 2017 Transfer 2 Beta #1 721 Beta #2 1363  
    US on 7/5 1 baby found EDD 2/24/18
    Insta acct ionlywant1more


  • thucksthucks member
    OMG I was on the phone at work when the doc called, luckily my DH was here.  I'm dealing with a pain in the butt realtor and all I hear is I don't understand what the heck is going on why don't we just transfer the 3 that's left. I'm surprised my DH didn't have a heart attach. I was like I am so not ok with that. We decided we will thaw all 3 decided the day of transfer if we want to transfer 2 or 1 then watch the remainder for a day and if it looks good refreeze it.  Still scheduled for June 8th stop BCP on Friday and start patches Saturday. 
    Me: 33  DH: 39
    Me: Endo, PCOS, 
    DH: low life span and mobility 
    Married and TTC since 12/2008
    3 IUI's in 2012
    IVF #1 BFN 08/2012
    IVF #2 11/2012 Twin Girls born at 35wks 7/2013
    ER 4/2016 Freeze all 11 embryo's 
    FET #1 5/2016 Transfer 1 BFN 
    FET #2 7/2016 Transfer 1 BFN 
    FET #3 09/2016 Thawed 3 Transfered 1 CP 
    FET #4 1/2017 Transfer 2 CP 
    FET #5 April 24, 2017 Transfering 1 BFN
    FET #6 June 8, 2017 Transfer 2 Beta #1 721 Beta #2 1363  
    US on 7/5 1 baby found EDD 2/24/18
    Insta acct ionlywant1more


  • @thucks i think waiting for the thaw is a great plan then you can know what you are working with.  I just hate it when people outside of the IF world throw in their two cent advice.  I know they don’t know any better but I am finding myself with less and less patience for it as time goes on.  

    Me:38 DW:33 
    TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned 
    Dx: My wife has no sperm  :D and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look
    2016

     * April IUI#1 - BFN
     * June IUI#2 - BFN
     * July IUI#3 - CP  :'(
     * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts.  Fresh Transfer 1  - CP  :'(
     * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP  :'(
    2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
     * April/May IVF#2:  9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts!  Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
     * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
     * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
    2018 DD born 8/20/18
    2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
      * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7  Beta#2: 322.6

  • Hello ladies! I was hoping to join this thread. My friend Jamie2000 said I should join lol I have been away from this site awhile. I apologize ice only read one page of comments but will try to catch up.

    Afm- not sure where to start. Been trying since 2007. So 10 years. I have had countless rounds of Clomid.  12 to be exact. 3 medicated iui.  5 failed ivf transfer with 4 Egg retrieval. I have my tubes taken out in Jan thinking that would cure my prob which is a hydrosalpinx.  But my 5th transfer in March failed when I transferred 2 pgs embryos. So here I am a tubeless 37 year old with no kids and feeling pretty hopeless after 10 years of this.  I just had my 4th ER 2 weeks ago. I got 29 eggs, 19 mature,  13 fertilized and I ended up with 9 grade AA BLASTS frozen. My next move is a ERA test. My RE wants me to have this before she will transfer in August.  Also I just found out today I have diabetes. So my life just keeps getting better and better. I just hope this ERA gives me answers.  That's all I can hope for. I know I'm not the only one struggling here...this is hard....im tired...just want things to get better. 

    I hope you all are doing well and hopeful on this painful journey xoxo talk to you soon

    Me  Hydrosalpinx(36) & DH 0% morphology (37)
    Jan 2007- started TTC ( temp everyday and opk and clomid used 12 cycles)
    Oct 2010- Natural BFP after 22 months TTC ( NO MEDS USED)
    Feb 2011- Still birth @ 16 weeks 
    May 2011- Myomectomy to remove grapefruit size fibroid
    Jan 2015- Essure to block hydrosalpinx
    April 2015 - 1st IUI  - BFN
    May 2015 - 2nd IUI - BFN
    Aug 2015 - IVF ER: BCP, lupron, Menopur, Bravelle, HCG (Trigger Shot) 12 eggs retrieved, 8  mature, 7 fertilized, 3 to blast, 2 passed pgs ( BOYS)
    Sept 2015 - FET transferred 2 embryos passed PGS (BOYS)- BFN ( NO FROSTIES left )
    Dec 2015- ICH Brain hemorrhage
    April 2016- Start Birth Control Got cleared for IVF/ diagnosed with MTHFR gene mutation/ HUBBY HAS ABOVE NORMAL MORPH/COUNT/MOTILITY
    May 2016- Start meds for ER 
    May 1- Start Lupron for long lupron protocol
    May 13- Started Stims 300 follistim,75 menopur, 10 lupron stimmed for  10 days
    May 24-  16 eggs retrieved,  12 mature eggs, 8 fertilized, 5 to blast. qty 2 day 6 AA blast. qty 3 7 day blast grades AA and AB.
    Have 3 NORMAL PGS TESTED GIRLS. 1 "INCONCLUSIVE" embryo still good for use.
    7/8- Started AF and Estraidol patches
    8/2- FET scheduled ( HUBBY BDAY!!!) and my clinic automatically uses EMBRYO GLUE!
    8/2- Transferred 1 6AA pgs tested girl
    8/15 - Beta #1 137 I AM PREGNANT!!!! EDD 4/20/17
    8/17- Beta #2 269 
    9/1- MISCARRIAGE. Baby stopped growing at 5 weeks 3 days. 
    10/19- Have Baseline for IVF#3. Fresh transfer.
    10/21- Start stims 300 Follistim 150 Menopur and Ganirelix 
    11/2/16-ER 43 eggs retrieved. 15 mature. 9 Fertilized. All 9 still growing but 4 are leading and are 8 cell day 3 grade AA.
    11/7/16- Fresh transfer of 1 embryo
  • @thucks- such a hard decision but I think you are doing the right thing by thawing all 3! Hoping June gets here fast for you!

    @shauna43- i hope the ERA gives you answers too! I haven't gone through nearly as much as you have, and I am tired too. I totally get it. Praying for good news for you soon!!
    History in Spoiler

    Age: 32 (same with DH). Together since 2006, Married June 2013 and TTC since August 2015
    Diagnosis: Mild Endo, DOR (AMH of 1.5), Poor Quality Eggs/embryos, Displaced Window of Implantation (ERA Post Receptive)
    March-May 2016: 1 TI and 2 IUIs- BFN 
    June 2016- Laproscopy- found/removed mild endo and confirmed only 1 normal healthy ovary.
    August 2016- IVF #1 with Antagonist Protocol- Cancelled (2 lead follies), converted to IUI- BFN
    Oct-Nov 2016- IVF #2 with Estrogen Priming Micro Lupron Protocol, 2 eggs retrieved, day 3 transfer of 1- BFN
    January 2017- New RE, IVF#3 with Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol, 12 eggs, 8 mature, 6 fertilized, 2 day 5 early blasts transferred (none to freeze :(), BFN
    May 2017- Sept 2017- Starting Donor Egg process! Waiting for donor to be available... and then she is pregnant at baseline :(
    Oct 2017- Donor #2: 25R, 22M,18F, 12 blasts frozen! Fresh transfer cancelled due to thin lining with fluid :(
    Nov 2017- Hysterscopy to remove polyp
    Dec 2017- DE FET #1 on 12/8 on 2 perfect blasts- BFN and devastated
    Jan-Mar 2018- ERA #1- Post receptive by 24 hours, ERA #2 RECEPTIVE with 4 days of Progesterone
    Apr 2018- DE FET cancelled for lining issues :(
    Jun 2018- DE FET #2 of two 1AA blasts- first BFP ever! Beta 10dp5dt- 378, Beta 14dp5dt- 2840, Beta 16dp5dt- 4035, beta 18dp5dt- 10916. Due on 2/20 with one baby after a vanishing twin
    Baby Born born early @ 33.5 weeks due to Pre-e
    Back for # 2!
  • thucksthucks member
    @shauna43 Oh my you're for sure in the right place on this board we have all been through a lot at this point. I really hope you can get some where and I hope the ERA helps with that. We are all for sure tired and very frustrated at times. 
    Me: 33  DH: 39
    Me: Endo, PCOS, 
    DH: low life span and mobility 
    Married and TTC since 12/2008
    3 IUI's in 2012
    IVF #1 BFN 08/2012
    IVF #2 11/2012 Twin Girls born at 35wks 7/2013
    ER 4/2016 Freeze all 11 embryo's 
    FET #1 5/2016 Transfer 1 BFN 
    FET #2 7/2016 Transfer 1 BFN 
    FET #3 09/2016 Thawed 3 Transfered 1 CP 
    FET #4 1/2017 Transfer 2 CP 
    FET #5 April 24, 2017 Transfering 1 BFN
    FET #6 June 8, 2017 Transfer 2 Beta #1 721 Beta #2 1363  
    US on 7/5 1 baby found EDD 2/24/18
    Insta acct ionlywant1more


  • Hi ladies ER was ok but not as expected, I was hoping my body would surprise me with an extra like last time but instead my largest follie was empty and gave me nothing   First time thats happened so I couldn't not stop crying after retrieval. So I only got 4 eggs and 1 of the 4 didn't seem as mature...which makes my anger grow as I could've stemmed another day making it mature especially since the big one I triggered for was empty.  

    3 of them fertilized which I'm happy about but they still have along way to go to be biopsied.  I hate that I'm so down about it when I should be hopeful but the thought of doing another ivf cycle does not excite me in the slightest.   I will wait to see if these 3 make it and take it from there.  I really should've just done a fresh transfer with this batch since there are so few.  Every egg counts so i'm just frustrated that they sacrificed the smaller one for the bigger one and lost both in the end.

    @thucks- your OH and my OH can share a drink on no twins :(  sounds like you have a great plan in place hoping June will be your magical month!!  A few first timers were like you going through a few FET with no success thinking they just had a bad batch and transfer what was left on the last round.  Both are pregnant with triplets.  One they all took and she delivered and is doing well.  the other put 2 but one divided nicely on their own...the wonders of IF!

    @shauna43- seems like you've been on some IF road, its not easy!  Are you doing testing on the 9 you have?  You had a great response?  Were you this successful in your previous cycles?
    History of TTC in spoiler box
    TTC since 2014
    Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
    7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN 
    IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle :( RE thought I would get at least 10.
    IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
    IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F,  3DT)-BFP  with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks  :'( 
    IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP  (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal  :'( 
    IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! :)
    IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! :)
    IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!

  • thucksthucks member
    @Hopeful_mom Can you change to a fresh since you just had the ER? TW we already have twins I know I can do it and I don't think it would be a BIG deal to do it again but doing from 2 kids to 5 is kinda a big jump we just moved into a bigger house prepping to expand the family but not that much. DH is just so against having twins again its crazy. I know it comes down to money and he would really want me to stay home at that point but... it's GOD's call and I feel he will provide for what he dishes us in life. When we had out first US with the twins in 2012 1 had split and we had triplets it wasn't until our 10wk US that we were down to just the twins. It's crazy how things work. 
    Me: 33  DH: 39
    Me: Endo, PCOS, 
    DH: low life span and mobility 
    Married and TTC since 12/2008
    3 IUI's in 2012
    IVF #1 BFN 08/2012
    IVF #2 11/2012 Twin Girls born at 35wks 7/2013
    ER 4/2016 Freeze all 11 embryo's 
    FET #1 5/2016 Transfer 1 BFN 
    FET #2 7/2016 Transfer 1 BFN 
    FET #3 09/2016 Thawed 3 Transfered 1 CP 
    FET #4 1/2017 Transfer 2 CP 
    FET #5 April 24, 2017 Transfering 1 BFN
    FET #6 June 8, 2017 Transfer 2 Beta #1 721 Beta #2 1363  
    US on 7/5 1 baby found EDD 2/24/18
    Insta acct ionlywant1more


  • thucks as much as I want to do a fresh transfer i know that I dont have the time to go through the same thing as last time.  I need to be on estrace and progestrone which i haven't been so i know they would not suggest doing it.
    I'm in awe that you were pregnant with triplets thats so amazing!  Its more amazing that ur body held on to what u had at 10 wks!!  Thats the toughest part for me I'm so angry with my body for not holding on to the healthy baby girl, baby B!  The only answer to my MC is the other embryo was abnormal...thats the only answer they can come up with as to the why the MC happened.  I'm really glad your twins were fighters and pulled through for u!!  I'm sure the next round will do the same for u!!
    History of TTC in spoiler box
    TTC since 2014
    Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
    7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN 
    IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle :( RE thought I would get at least 10.
    IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
    IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F,  3DT)-BFP  with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks  :'( 
    IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP  (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal  :'( 
    IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! :)
    IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! :)
    IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!

  • thucksthucks member
    @hopeful_mom I'm so sorry about your MC. It's really hard for me to admit that I have had twins because so many people on these board have had MC's. I haven't been in that position besides that triplet but the outcome I had is way different than a full blown MC. Could that abnormal embryo drug the other down taking from it everything to try to keep itself alive? I really hope you will be able to have a full successful round and bring home a baby girl or boy at some point. I'm rooting for you so much hun. 
    Me: 33  DH: 39
    Me: Endo, PCOS, 
    DH: low life span and mobility 
    Married and TTC since 12/2008
    3 IUI's in 2012
    IVF #1 BFN 08/2012
    IVF #2 11/2012 Twin Girls born at 35wks 7/2013
    ER 4/2016 Freeze all 11 embryo's 
    FET #1 5/2016 Transfer 1 BFN 
    FET #2 7/2016 Transfer 1 BFN 
    FET #3 09/2016 Thawed 3 Transfered 1 CP 
    FET #4 1/2017 Transfer 2 CP 
    FET #5 April 24, 2017 Transfering 1 BFN
    FET #6 June 8, 2017 Transfer 2 Beta #1 721 Beta #2 1363  
    US on 7/5 1 baby found EDD 2/24/18
    Insta acct ionlywant1more


  • thucks dont ever be scared to share your good news, if others can't be happy for others then they have bigger problems then just IF.  You're babies are miracles for sure!!  I should still be pregnant everything was perfect and then it wasn't.  Its very hard that I saw them that morning and nothing was suspicious and everything was fantastic!!  Everyday is a blessing.  Just outside my office this morning in times square some lunatic ran over 20 people.  My friends were outside and were just missed by the car, you never know what life has in store for you.  G-d obviously wanted you to have twins.  I would like him to want the same for me ;)  I do hope I will have success one day just all these cycle of first trying to get the embabies is taking its toll!!  On top of trying to make sure we have run every test imaginable so the same thing doesn't happen.


    AFM: My Day 2 update - 4A, 4B and 2BC...so far 2 of the 3 are pretty much on target, I always strive for the A in school so I would like my eggs to do the same   I'm hoping the 3rd will catch up tomorrow and be a fighter!  My tummy is still hurting me which is annoying...but that too shall pass.
    History of TTC in spoiler box
    TTC since 2014
    Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
    7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN 
    IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle :( RE thought I would get at least 10.
    IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
    IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F,  3DT)-BFP  with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks  :'( 
    IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP  (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal  :'( 
    IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! :)
    IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! :)
    IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!

  • @Hopeful_mom Keeping my fingers crossed that 3 out of 3 make it for you.  Ive been lurking from afar ;)
    TTC since August 2014 
    Me: 41, Him: 43 

    DX: Unexplained secondary infertility 

    History:
    Multiple months of Clomid/Femara
    End of March 2015: BFP with Femara! Saw heartbeat at 5.5 weeks. M/C at 11 weeks
    Multiple more months of Femara
    IUI #1 with Femara and Follistem 75 units: BFN
    IUI #2 with Follistem 150 units: BFN
    Dec 2015: 1st IVF. 10 eggs retrieved with 8 eggs fertilized.  5 day transfer of two embryos with 2 frozen embies. BFN
    January 2016: FET #1 2 embryos: BFN
    March 2016: 2nd IVF cycle. 4 eggs retrieved with 2 fertilized. Quick two day transfer of both embryos: BFN
    April/May 2016 IVF #3. 11 eggs retrieved. 10 mature.  7 fertilized.  2 5AA blasts transferred 5/11/2016 BFN
    September 2016 IVF #4: 17 follicles growing, premature ovulation through Cetrotide. Retrieval cancelled. 
    April 2017 IVF #5: 9 follicles growing, 6 eggs retrieved with 5 fertilized. Transfer of three blasts. BFN
    June 2017: IVF #6: 2 follicles growing, 5 eggs retrieved with 5 fertilized. Transfer of 5 3-day embryos. Chemical pregnancy. BFN
    Nov/Dec 2017: Donor egg cycle. 33 eggs retrieved, 26 mature. 26 fertilized. 
  • Hi @shauna43 it sounds like you have been through so much!  Are you using PGS testing for your blasts?  Good luck with your ERA testing hopefully it can make the difference for your next transfer.  I understand your struggle.  I seem to swing between intense hope and despair.  The ups and downs of infertility are definitely exhausting.  

    @hopeful_mom sorry your ER didn’t go how you wanted but I’m glad you still have 3 in the game :)  I heard about what happened in time square.  It’s so crazy how life can change in an instant.  Glad you and your friends are safe.  

    AFM:  This PGS TTW feels like two years.

    Me:38 DW:33 
    TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned 
    Dx: My wife has no sperm  :D and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look
    2016

     * April IUI#1 - BFN
     * June IUI#2 - BFN
     * July IUI#3 - CP  :'(
     * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts.  Fresh Transfer 1  - CP  :'(
     * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP  :'(
    2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
     * April/May IVF#2:  9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts!  Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
     * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
     * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
    2018 DD born 8/20/18
    2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
      * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7  Beta#2: 322.6

  • Hey ladies, 
       Just now seeing responses. Thank you all for your kind words.  I know someone asked about my previous cycles and pgs testing.  

    So I've had 1 stillbirth/missed miscarriage at 16 weeks with a natural pregnancy in 2011. 

    I've had 1 miscarriage and 1 chemical with my Ivf. 

    I have done pgs testing on every embryo I have created except  for this last round. I am the problem and not my embryos.  I have had a ton of normal embryos.  My abnormal embryos were missing chromosomes so never down syndrome. 

    I'm choosing to not do pgs this time. I just can't afford  it.

    Has anyone done the ERA? I just got my schedule yesterday.  Excited to see what my results are.


    I hope you all are doing well. Looking forward to reading your updates. 
    Me  Hydrosalpinx(36) & DH 0% morphology (37)
    Jan 2007- started TTC ( temp everyday and opk and clomid used 12 cycles)
    Oct 2010- Natural BFP after 22 months TTC ( NO MEDS USED)
    Feb 2011- Still birth @ 16 weeks 
    May 2011- Myomectomy to remove grapefruit size fibroid
    Jan 2015- Essure to block hydrosalpinx
    April 2015 - 1st IUI  - BFN
    May 2015 - 2nd IUI - BFN
    Aug 2015 - IVF ER: BCP, lupron, Menopur, Bravelle, HCG (Trigger Shot) 12 eggs retrieved, 8  mature, 7 fertilized, 3 to blast, 2 passed pgs ( BOYS)
    Sept 2015 - FET transferred 2 embryos passed PGS (BOYS)- BFN ( NO FROSTIES left )
    Dec 2015- ICH Brain hemorrhage
    April 2016- Start Birth Control Got cleared for IVF/ diagnosed with MTHFR gene mutation/ HUBBY HAS ABOVE NORMAL MORPH/COUNT/MOTILITY
    May 2016- Start meds for ER 
    May 1- Start Lupron for long lupron protocol
    May 13- Started Stims 300 follistim,75 menopur, 10 lupron stimmed for  10 days
    May 24-  16 eggs retrieved,  12 mature eggs, 8 fertilized, 5 to blast. qty 2 day 6 AA blast. qty 3 7 day blast grades AA and AB.
    Have 3 NORMAL PGS TESTED GIRLS. 1 "INCONCLUSIVE" embryo still good for use.
    7/8- Started AF and Estraidol patches
    8/2- FET scheduled ( HUBBY BDAY!!!) and my clinic automatically uses EMBRYO GLUE!
    8/2- Transferred 1 6AA pgs tested girl
    8/15 - Beta #1 137 I AM PREGNANT!!!! EDD 4/20/17
    8/17- Beta #2 269 
    9/1- MISCARRIAGE. Baby stopped growing at 5 weeks 3 days. 
    10/19- Have Baseline for IVF#3. Fresh transfer.
    10/21- Start stims 300 Follistim 150 Menopur and Ganirelix 
    11/2/16-ER 43 eggs retrieved. 15 mature. 9 Fertilized. All 9 still growing but 4 are leading and are 8 cell day 3 grade AA.
    11/7/16- Fresh transfer of 1 embryo
  • @2MomsHoping when will u get your pgs results? And how many did you send in? Have you done pgs before? 
    @Hopeful_mom I seen that on the news....that crazy!!! Glad you and your friends are ok. Sending your embryos positive thoughts. Good luck! Let us know what your results are tomorrow. Yes this was my best ER and response.  I did 150 menopur, 300 follistim and ganirelix. Which I've done for my past 3 ER. I usually get 6 embryos. I still have 3 froze in addition to the 9. So I have 12 frozen. 

    @thucks I'm trying to figure out what's going on with you.  You transferred 3? 
    @JamieH2000 how are you doing girl?
    Me  Hydrosalpinx(36) & DH 0% morphology (37)
    Jan 2007- started TTC ( temp everyday and opk and clomid used 12 cycles)
    Oct 2010- Natural BFP after 22 months TTC ( NO MEDS USED)
    Feb 2011- Still birth @ 16 weeks 
    May 2011- Myomectomy to remove grapefruit size fibroid
    Jan 2015- Essure to block hydrosalpinx
    April 2015 - 1st IUI  - BFN
    May 2015 - 2nd IUI - BFN
    Aug 2015 - IVF ER: BCP, lupron, Menopur, Bravelle, HCG (Trigger Shot) 12 eggs retrieved, 8  mature, 7 fertilized, 3 to blast, 2 passed pgs ( BOYS)
    Sept 2015 - FET transferred 2 embryos passed PGS (BOYS)- BFN ( NO FROSTIES left )
    Dec 2015- ICH Brain hemorrhage
    April 2016- Start Birth Control Got cleared for IVF/ diagnosed with MTHFR gene mutation/ HUBBY HAS ABOVE NORMAL MORPH/COUNT/MOTILITY
    May 2016- Start meds for ER 
    May 1- Start Lupron for long lupron protocol
    May 13- Started Stims 300 follistim,75 menopur, 10 lupron stimmed for  10 days
    May 24-  16 eggs retrieved,  12 mature eggs, 8 fertilized, 5 to blast. qty 2 day 6 AA blast. qty 3 7 day blast grades AA and AB.
    Have 3 NORMAL PGS TESTED GIRLS. 1 "INCONCLUSIVE" embryo still good for use.
    7/8- Started AF and Estraidol patches
    8/2- FET scheduled ( HUBBY BDAY!!!) and my clinic automatically uses EMBRYO GLUE!
    8/2- Transferred 1 6AA pgs tested girl
    8/15 - Beta #1 137 I AM PREGNANT!!!! EDD 4/20/17
    8/17- Beta #2 269 
    9/1- MISCARRIAGE. Baby stopped growing at 5 weeks 3 days. 
    10/19- Have Baseline for IVF#3. Fresh transfer.
    10/21- Start stims 300 Follistim 150 Menopur and Ganirelix 
    11/2/16-ER 43 eggs retrieved. 15 mature. 9 Fertilized. All 9 still growing but 4 are leading and are 8 cell day 3 grade AA.
    11/7/16- Fresh transfer of 1 embryo
  • thucksthucks member
    @shauna43 no i haven't transferred yet that's not til the 8th. RE suggested transfering our last 3 frosties. But we've decided to thaw them and transfer the best 1 or 2. We will decide the day of transfer. 
    Me: 33  DH: 39
    Me: Endo, PCOS, 
    DH: low life span and mobility 
    Married and TTC since 12/2008
    3 IUI's in 2012
    IVF #1 BFN 08/2012
    IVF #2 11/2012 Twin Girls born at 35wks 7/2013
    ER 4/2016 Freeze all 11 embryo's 
    FET #1 5/2016 Transfer 1 BFN 
    FET #2 7/2016 Transfer 1 BFN 
    FET #3 09/2016 Thawed 3 Transfered 1 CP 
    FET #4 1/2017 Transfer 2 CP 
    FET #5 April 24, 2017 Transfering 1 BFN
    FET #6 June 8, 2017 Transfer 2 Beta #1 721 Beta #2 1363  
    US on 7/5 1 baby found EDD 2/24/18
    Insta acct ionlywant1more


  • @hopeful_mom- So hoping all 3 make it to day 5!! I would love nothing more than for you to be able to do you FET next month. Its been a long road and its time to get there!

    @2momshoping- So much waiting in this process. Hopefully you will get a pleasant surprise with early results!

    @shauna43- I'm doing alright... just waiting like we all seem to have to do so much! I think I ovulated on Monday for the first time in months after all the cysts. So we did try of course. but I have no hope it will work.. but might as well give it a few more natural tries before the donor process really starts up. I'm going to Vegas and Zion national park for a week starting next weekend, so i'll just drink and hike away my sorrows :) Just waiting on my husbands genetic results and for our 3 potential donors to finish their current cycle so we can select one and get going!
    History in Spoiler

    Age: 32 (same with DH). Together since 2006, Married June 2013 and TTC since August 2015
    Diagnosis: Mild Endo, DOR (AMH of 1.5), Poor Quality Eggs/embryos, Displaced Window of Implantation (ERA Post Receptive)
    March-May 2016: 1 TI and 2 IUIs- BFN 
    June 2016- Laproscopy- found/removed mild endo and confirmed only 1 normal healthy ovary.
    August 2016- IVF #1 with Antagonist Protocol- Cancelled (2 lead follies), converted to IUI- BFN
    Oct-Nov 2016- IVF #2 with Estrogen Priming Micro Lupron Protocol, 2 eggs retrieved, day 3 transfer of 1- BFN
    January 2017- New RE, IVF#3 with Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol, 12 eggs, 8 mature, 6 fertilized, 2 day 5 early blasts transferred (none to freeze :(), BFN
    May 2017- Sept 2017- Starting Donor Egg process! Waiting for donor to be available... and then she is pregnant at baseline :(
    Oct 2017- Donor #2: 25R, 22M,18F, 12 blasts frozen! Fresh transfer cancelled due to thin lining with fluid :(
    Nov 2017- Hysterscopy to remove polyp
    Dec 2017- DE FET #1 on 12/8 on 2 perfect blasts- BFN and devastated
    Jan-Mar 2018- ERA #1- Post receptive by 24 hours, ERA #2 RECEPTIVE with 4 days of Progesterone
    Apr 2018- DE FET cancelled for lining issues :(
    Jun 2018- DE FET #2 of two 1AA blasts- first BFP ever! Beta 10dp5dt- 378, Beta 14dp5dt- 2840, Beta 16dp5dt- 4035, beta 18dp5dt- 10916. Due on 2/20 with one baby after a vanishing twin
    Baby Born born early @ 33.5 weeks due to Pre-e
    Back for # 2!
  • I did just receive some good news so I thought I would share. My husbands genetic came back with only being a carrier for 1 thing, and its not the same as the 1 thing one of our 3 potential donors has. So from a genetics standpoint, we should be good to go with any of them! I did ask if there was any update on timing so we could manage our expectations ;)
    History in Spoiler

    Age: 32 (same with DH). Together since 2006, Married June 2013 and TTC since August 2015
    Diagnosis: Mild Endo, DOR (AMH of 1.5), Poor Quality Eggs/embryos, Displaced Window of Implantation (ERA Post Receptive)
    March-May 2016: 1 TI and 2 IUIs- BFN 
    June 2016- Laproscopy- found/removed mild endo and confirmed only 1 normal healthy ovary.
    August 2016- IVF #1 with Antagonist Protocol- Cancelled (2 lead follies), converted to IUI- BFN
    Oct-Nov 2016- IVF #2 with Estrogen Priming Micro Lupron Protocol, 2 eggs retrieved, day 3 transfer of 1- BFN
    January 2017- New RE, IVF#3 with Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol, 12 eggs, 8 mature, 6 fertilized, 2 day 5 early blasts transferred (none to freeze :(), BFN
    May 2017- Sept 2017- Starting Donor Egg process! Waiting for donor to be available... and then she is pregnant at baseline :(
    Oct 2017- Donor #2: 25R, 22M,18F, 12 blasts frozen! Fresh transfer cancelled due to thin lining with fluid :(
    Nov 2017- Hysterscopy to remove polyp
    Dec 2017- DE FET #1 on 12/8 on 2 perfect blasts- BFN and devastated
    Jan-Mar 2018- ERA #1- Post receptive by 24 hours, ERA #2 RECEPTIVE with 4 days of Progesterone
    Apr 2018- DE FET cancelled for lining issues :(
    Jun 2018- DE FET #2 of two 1AA blasts- first BFP ever! Beta 10dp5dt- 378, Beta 14dp5dt- 2840, Beta 16dp5dt- 4035, beta 18dp5dt- 10916. Due on 2/20 with one baby after a vanishing twin
    Baby Born born early @ 33.5 weeks due to Pre-e
    Back for # 2!
  • thucksthucks member
    @JamieH2000 Thats good news. I hope you can move forward soon. 
    Me: 33  DH: 39
    Me: Endo, PCOS, 
    DH: low life span and mobility 
    Married and TTC since 12/2008
    3 IUI's in 2012
    IVF #1 BFN 08/2012
    IVF #2 11/2012 Twin Girls born at 35wks 7/2013
    ER 4/2016 Freeze all 11 embryo's 
    FET #1 5/2016 Transfer 1 BFN 
    FET #2 7/2016 Transfer 1 BFN 
    FET #3 09/2016 Thawed 3 Transfered 1 CP 
    FET #4 1/2017 Transfer 2 CP 
    FET #5 April 24, 2017 Transfering 1 BFN
    FET #6 June 8, 2017 Transfer 2 Beta #1 721 Beta #2 1363  
    US on 7/5 1 baby found EDD 2/24/18
    Insta acct ionlywant1more


  • @jamieh2000 that's exciting news! I can't believe how quick the donor process seems to be! Have so much fun on your trip and enjoy that wine!!

    @hopeful_mom fingers crossed that your three keep going strong! Hopefully you can take it easy this weekend and just relax.

    @shauna43 I'm sorry you are here with us :( I had the ERA done in November (I think?) and my results came back as receptive so no change in when I transfer. I do know that several ladies on other boards here have had it done and came back pre or post receptive, changed things up and their next cycle was receptive. Also, just the fact that a biopsy is taken/scratch done can improve your chances the next cycle too!

    AFM - Nothing new. I think we are leaning towards going with the surrogacy lawyer that we originally met with. Other places just haven't been very responsive to emails/phone calls and I'm a person that doesn't do very well if I am given multiple options anyway, so maybe it's a good thing (I HATE making decisions). DH wants to sign the initial contract/retainer by the end of month and that makes me both excited and nervous. I still haven't given up trying again with my own body, but since matching can take such a long time I don't want to delay, especially in case I need to do another retrieval - I'm not getting any younger!

    Anyone have any fun weekend plans? I think DH and I are going to go hiking in the Shenandoah Mountains and then stopping at a few wineries on the way home.  It's a hike that we did on one of our first dates, usually do a few times a year, and he proposed at the summit so I always look forward to it.

  • @shauna43 my brain is fried but whats an ERA?  Is great that you can make normal embryos without a problem i'm sorry theres always something else to pop up and get in the way.  

    JamieH2000 I would really love to get to FET thank u!!  Glad things are moving along for you thats great!  Enjoy your trip to the utmost you sooo deserve it!  And have fun TTC theres always a chance so now you really can actually enjoy it ;)

    mtpbadger I'm terrible at making decisions at times too!!  But I have to say from all your posts it does sounds like the first lawyer you spoke about seemed to know his stuff.  You're weekend sound lovely have fun!!  I have sleep and work to catch up on boooo.  But then I'll have off and will have downtime then!

    radmom27  <3

    AFM: My embabies I'm actually confused by my update.  Today she told me 8A, 8A, 8BC and one 4C.  Now that would mean 3 are growing well which is great!!  I just thought the other day that one was out.  I seriously thought she got confused with who I am...so at this point I will have to sit tight till Monday to hear what has been biopsied...really praying I got some fighters here!! 
    History of TTC in spoiler box
    TTC since 2014
    Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
    7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN 
    IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle :( RE thought I would get at least 10.
    IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
    IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F,  3DT)-BFP  with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks  :'( 
    IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP  (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal  :'( 
    IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! :)
    IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! :)
    IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!

  • Hi everyone.  I’m feeling a little down today.  I got the results for my PGS.  Out of the 9 we sent out for testing only 2 came back normal.  I’m very very thankful that we have the two but I guess I just got my hopes up for more.  Furthermore due to my insurance mess I have to wait until January to transfer.  When my RE called she was very supportive and said that the results were surprising for my age but it was good we did the PGS to find the lucky two.  I guess I’m living proof that beautiful blasts don’t necessarily mean healthy embryos.  

    Me:38 DW:33 
    TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned 
    Dx: My wife has no sperm  :D and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look
    2016

     * April IUI#1 - BFN
     * June IUI#2 - BFN
     * July IUI#3 - CP  :'(
     * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts.  Fresh Transfer 1  - CP  :'(
     * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP  :'(
    2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
     * April/May IVF#2:  9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts!  Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
     * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
     * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
    2018 DD born 8/20/18
    2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
      * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7  Beta#2: 322.6

  • @Hopeful_mom I think they mean 8 cell and 4 cell embryos grade AA lol that would be my guess. On certain days they are supposed to be a certain amount of cells
    Me  Hydrosalpinx(36) & DH 0% morphology (37)
    Jan 2007- started TTC ( temp everyday and opk and clomid used 12 cycles)
    Oct 2010- Natural BFP after 22 months TTC ( NO MEDS USED)
    Feb 2011- Still birth @ 16 weeks 
    May 2011- Myomectomy to remove grapefruit size fibroid
    Jan 2015- Essure to block hydrosalpinx
    April 2015 - 1st IUI  - BFN
    May 2015 - 2nd IUI - BFN
    Aug 2015 - IVF ER: BCP, lupron, Menopur, Bravelle, HCG (Trigger Shot) 12 eggs retrieved, 8  mature, 7 fertilized, 3 to blast, 2 passed pgs ( BOYS)
    Sept 2015 - FET transferred 2 embryos passed PGS (BOYS)- BFN ( NO FROSTIES left )
    Dec 2015- ICH Brain hemorrhage
    April 2016- Start Birth Control Got cleared for IVF/ diagnosed with MTHFR gene mutation/ HUBBY HAS ABOVE NORMAL MORPH/COUNT/MOTILITY
    May 2016- Start meds for ER 
    May 1- Start Lupron for long lupron protocol
    May 13- Started Stims 300 follistim,75 menopur, 10 lupron stimmed for  10 days
    May 24-  16 eggs retrieved,  12 mature eggs, 8 fertilized, 5 to blast. qty 2 day 6 AA blast. qty 3 7 day blast grades AA and AB.
    Have 3 NORMAL PGS TESTED GIRLS. 1 "INCONCLUSIVE" embryo still good for use.
    7/8- Started AF and Estraidol patches
    8/2- FET scheduled ( HUBBY BDAY!!!) and my clinic automatically uses EMBRYO GLUE!
    8/2- Transferred 1 6AA pgs tested girl
    8/15 - Beta #1 137 I AM PREGNANT!!!! EDD 4/20/17
    8/17- Beta #2 269 
    9/1- MISCARRIAGE. Baby stopped growing at 5 weeks 3 days. 
    10/19- Have Baseline for IVF#3. Fresh transfer.
    10/21- Start stims 300 Follistim 150 Menopur and Ganirelix 
    11/2/16-ER 43 eggs retrieved. 15 mature. 9 Fertilized. All 9 still growing but 4 are leading and are 8 cell day 3 grade AA.
    11/7/16- Fresh transfer of 1 embryo
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