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UO 5/4/17

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  • H never puts the seat up, he just aims carefully and I love it! The only time I could see myself falling in is in the middle of the night when I stumble in there.
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  • My H leaves the seat up. It's not really an argument in our house because it's not worth the energy for me but I DO wish he'd learn to put it down. Honestly I'm used to it so not much falling in around here but I think it looks ugly especially in our downstairs guest bath... 
  • @ShadeofGreen816 I've never thought about the aesthetic side of the seat being down...it definitely LOOKS better in the down position!

    The way women carry on about it sometimes though makes me think of those tacky glitter keychains at Spencer's from the 80's saying "Men are only good for this!" and "Men always do XYZ!" and "I like my man this way!"
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  • @WombThereItIs I also married a sitter so no issue. I also like the cover down. We put iron tablets in our toilets and I don't want any dogs or anything getting into them.

    My UO is that I think everyone should have a end of life plan? Death plan not sure what to call it. But for the last 3-4 years I bring it up to DH and he shuts me down. I want to buy our plots at a cemetery and have everything laid out so it doesn't burden our family when the time comes. Might be morbid?? I just think it's easier when everything is in place and the wishes are known than to put the pressure of dealing with the death on left loved ones. We are meeting with an estate lawyer to plan out our wishes for this LO, why not include our death plan or whatever with it. 
  • +1 for marrying a sitter, DH has lots of brothers and never liked being blamed for peeing all over the bathroom.

    Re death plan: I'm not sure how far I would go with it, but I do think it's a good idea to have at least some of your ducks in a row

    UO: I think it's weird to stop complete strangers in a store and ask them about their kid/s. Happens all the time with DD and with this pregnancy and while it doesn't necessarily bother me, it does strike me as a bit odd.
  • @ShadeofGreen816 WOAH! I did not know that about POA I assumed my husband would have the rights. Will have to look into that. Damn Indiana
  • @sweaterboots I agree with you, too. I don't really get being upset over the toilet seat being up. That being said, my H is actually adamant about the entire thing (including the lid or whatever the top cover is called) being down for aesthetic reasons. So, he always lowers the entire thing anyways.
  • I dont care about the toilet seat position. His arguement is well I have to put it up everytime I need to go, you can very well put it down. Whatever dude. He cleans the toilets regularly too. He has been nice about putting it down most of the time lately especially before bed because of my frequent trips to the bathroom overnight, so I wont fall in in the dark


  • I'll be the crazy toilet seat position lady, in our house the rule is he has to put both the seat and the lid down. I hate even walking in the bathroom and seeing the lid up, something about that is just so gross to me! 

  • @kayemjay2 I don't get it either why some men won't consider it. Yes you are sterile but if you decide it's a lot easier to reverse than a woman's. Plus it saves you money from buying condoms or whatever and your wife pushed out a baby least you could do is make it so she doesn't have to go back on birth control. I think their selfish and or uneducated about the procedure. 
  • I have fallen in. It was terrifying.  Although it was likely due to me leaving the seat up after cleaning or something as DH consistently puts it back down. Coming from a house of sisters, he knows what to do.

    Am I the only one who watches Keeping Up With the Kardashians? Kris asked Caitlyn about her tendency to pee sitting down. I thought that was a bit ridiculous.

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  • I joined a tiny homes Facebook page. It's super interesting. I am not a huge fan of the tiny home movement, but some families are living in their 5th wheel RV. Apart of my really would love to do this, but another part of my is like nope, I need a full sized kitchen.

    I guess my UO is that I wouldn't ever say 100% no to this idea. Especially when DH retires. We have family on both sides of the country, we would save a ton of money in the long run with a RV.
  • bacorrea said:
    I joined a tiny homes Facebook page. It's super interesting. I am not a huge fan of the tiny home movement, but some families are living in their 5th wheel RV. Apart of my really would love to do this, but another part of my is like nope, I need a full sized kitchen.

    I guess my UO is that I wouldn't ever say 100% no to this idea. Especially when DH retires. We have family on both sides of the country, we would save a ton of money in the long run with a RV.
    My parents retired when I went off to college and toured the US in their 5th wheel and semi. They did that for 5 years before my Dad stopped resisting all the job offers he was getting (he must be a good worker!) and went back to work. Now they live near us :)
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  • @kayemjay2 I literally was going to say the same regarding me who won't get snipped. Like really is it affecting your manhood that much that you can't spray sperm all over the earth?? Do you not know what your wife just endured??? 

    I guess I don't have a UO today. Just lots of agreement with everyone else's opinions. Come on who's got a good political UO? ;) it's a big day for that
  • I'm not sure if this will be a UO or not (and it may highlight how selfish I am). Concerning a vasectomy, I heard/read someone say that they didn't want their husband to have one because what if they (themselves) were to die and their husband wanted to have more children with someone else. Um... that is a check in the OTHER column for me! I know they can be reversed, but I would be pretty happy knowing I was going to be the only mother of his children. No lookin' out for a hypothetical future wife on my part! 
  • +1 for marrying a sitter and it is wonderful. H was sick and passed out while peeing in his dorm community bathroom and ended up with a bunch of stiches in the back of his head. So he has opted to sit since. I definitely fell in during the night when I lived with my parents. That wakes you up real quick!!

    I totally want all of my end of life details sorted far before. So many good ideas here. I do not want to cause fighting, stress, or a financial burden between loved ones. I don't think that is morbid, I think it is caring. 

    I totally ride the fence on stranger comments. Sometimes I would just prefer they say something because their silence feels awkward and other times I wish people would go away. This probably has more to do with my mood at that very moment. 

    I definitely judge men that will not consider a vasectomy. Luckily the men I am around seem to fully take that on without question when the time comes. It's almost a rite of passage. 

    And I would probably end up in a verbal altercation  with a man that said he "wasn't into" changing his own children's diapers. Like I get that DS' uncles are not lining up to have a go at diaper duty, but seriously every dad needs it be able to handle all the things his kid needs even if mom might do more frequently (except BFing of course). 

    My brain is too fried to think of my own OU, so thank you all for yours as a distraction. 
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  • I also married a sitter. It's awesome. 

    H will definitely change diapers and be an equal partner in taking care of our child. No way would I put up with him not. 

    My UO is usually a big deal to most people who find out and it's definitely
    a UO. I don't like cheese. I don't mind it on pizza if it's not too much and a snack of apple
    slices with some sharp cheddar is yummy but that's it. 
  • kat81 said:
    OMG to your friend's story but yes even more so to this "healthcare" bill that is basically no healthcare at all!!!!!!

    A friend of mine posted this today, which he called the "physics" of healthcare (physics because it's about laws of conservation):

    "People get health care. Health care costs money. There are actual inefficiencies that exist in the system, but mostly, the choices in health care systems amount to

    a) people can get less health care;
    b) people (insurance companies, hospitals, drug and device makers, doctors) can be paid less money;
    c) we can shift around who pays

    That's it. The details are really important, of course, but most of the general figures hting is either about one of these things, or tries to pretend that this basic equation doesn't actually exist."

    And I couldn't agree more. I'm of the mind that people should get healthcare and perhaps some of the people in choice b could be paid less (e.g. insurance companies), but that we should absolutely shift around who pays. The rich and healthy should pay. You can't control if you're going to get sick (healthy lifestyles aside, which btw are largely related to richness anyway). So why doubly punish those who are sick by making them pay extra while they're sick? I'm all for a single-payer plan, personally. If I don't like the ACA ("Obamacare") it's because it's not socialized enough. Healthcare is the ONE thing I'd like to be socialized.

    @kat81
    to the bolded:
    are you saying that if I am healthy and middle class I should pay more for my health care just because I'm healthy?
  • @rebecca517-2 NO!!! You are just like my DH he doesn't do cheese either so we can never share anything. At least you like a little he doesn't do any. But I secretly hide it in some foods usually sweets bc seriously cream cheese is life! 
  • @sweaterboots You said it well. I think it's sexist to assume men should leave the toilet in a way for women, yet we get mad if they forget or don't. That being said, I married a sitter so don't have to worry about this ever. Also, like @kayemjay2 I think leaving the lid up is gross because I think of all the waste particles flying in the air.

    Yes to death plan, POA, living will, etc.

    I can't imagine a husband who won't change diapers. This is enraging in so many ways in my mind. It's also sad that this parent won't be fully involved in all aspects of parenthood/ his child's upbringing. Plus, it's not like anyone enjoys changing a diaper. It makes me wonder in what other ways this husband is wonderful.

    As for the healthcare bill that passed, it's literally put me in such a sad slump this afternoon. I just want to cry, a lot, but I'm so stunned and saddened I just feel... numb. No comment, I just hate this country more and more these days.

    @rebecca517-2 I used to dislike cheese 90% of the time, but since having GD it's one of the only things I can eat 100% guilt free, so I've developed a friendship with it.
  • Jens_Hoes said:
    kat81 said:
    OMG to your friend's story but yes even more so to this "healthcare" bill that is basically no healthcare at all!!!!!!

    A friend of mine posted this today, which he called the "physics" of healthcare (physics because it's about laws of conservation):

    "People get health care. Health care costs money. There are actual inefficiencies that exist in the system, but mostly, the choices in health care systems amount to

    a) people can get less health care;
    b) people (insurance companies, hospitals, drug and device makers, doctors) can be paid less money;
    c) we can shift around who pays

    That's it. The details are really important, of course, but most of the general figures hting is either about one of these things, or tries to pretend that this basic equation doesn't actually exist."

    And I couldn't agree more. I'm of the mind that people should get healthcare and perhaps some of the people in choice b could be paid less (e.g. insurance companies), but that we should absolutely shift around who pays. The rich and healthy should pay. You can't control if you're going to get sick (healthy lifestyles aside, which btw are largely related to richness anyway). So why doubly punish those who are sick by making them pay extra while they're sick? I'm all for a single-payer plan, personally. If I don't like the ACA ("Obamacare") it's because it's not socialized enough. Healthcare is the ONE thing I'd like to be socialized.

    @kat81
    to the bolded:
    are you saying that if I am healthy and middle class I should pay more for my health care just because I'm healthy?
    Speaking for myself, yes. Absolutely. 

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    Jens_Hoes said:
    kat81 said:
    ...
    And I couldn't agree more. I'm of the mind that people should get healthcare and perhaps some of the people in choice b could be paid less (e.g. insurance companies), but that we should absolutely shift around who pays. The rich and healthy should pay. You can't control if you're going to get sick (healthy lifestyles aside, which btw are largely related to richness anyway). So why doubly punish those who are sick by making them pay extra while they're sick? I'm all for a single-payer plan, personally. If I don't like the ACA ("Obamacare") it's because it's not socialized enough. Healthcare is the ONE thing I'd like to be socialized.

    @kat81
    to the bolded:
    are you saying that if I am healthy and middle class I should pay more for my health care just because I'm healthy?
    I think that the middle class should pay more than the poor, yes. The rich should pay much more than you (they should be funding most of it, imo). No a healthy person should not pay MORE than a sick person; that is ridiculous. But what is also ridiculous, imo, is for healthy people to pay considerably less than sick people. (See, I'm even ok with sick people paying a BIT more under some circumstances, like a token copay or something, as they have been accustomed to even when we they have very good health insurance plans.) This "high risk pool" nonsense is nonsense and totally unfair.

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  • @RedInLove oh there aren't definitely improvements we could make to the current system, but repealing the slow start we have seems backwards as all hell. 

    Single payer makes sense to me. I'll pay more in taxes so you and I don't have insane copays and network restrictions and our deadbeat siblings can be covered too. 

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