We are not religious at all. Neither my husband or ainwere raised in a religious household so I would say since we believe in science?It explains many other things in the world (like nature and weather, medical advancements, nutrition etc) so I guess we feel that the scientific explanation as to the universe, earths creation, why we are here...makes logical sense to us. *snip*
I believe in science and the scientific explanation of the universe. I still also believe in God.
Do you think about what you are saying at all? I mean I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt but you seem to continually be sticking your foot in your mouth.
That's great that you believe in science and god. I don't but what's your point? I never suggested or presumed what anyone else thought.
Read the above bolded. It is insinuating that people who are religious don't believe in science.
I have to ask, is English your first language?
Omg. Not sure why when I state what I believe just like everybody else does it comes across as insinuating anything! I in no way insinuated this and I in no way presume to have any idea what anybody else thinks about science and how it coordinates with their religious beliefs.I think you're reading into this one a little bit. Just because someone says what they believe in doesn't mean it's an insult or assumption about you.Yes English is my first language:)
I think what you meant to say is, "Ahhh, I apologize."
When one person takes offense, they're probably reading too much into it.
When three people take offense, you probably insinuated something shitty.
What is your religion if any? Non-denominational christian. The recent election cycle caused some seeeeeerious issues for me (made me doubt my faith/the modern christian church/etc.) buuuuuuut I'm working through it. Did you grow up with this religion/belief? Yes, although I grew up in churches that were pretty "name it/claim it" and focused a lot on money which I've tried to avoid as an adult. Does SO share the same beliefs as you? Yep Will you raise LO with it? Yes, and I especially hope to raise them to focus on the important parts to me... i.e. showing love and respect to everyone, regardless of their beliefs, helping those in need, and taking care of the poor (vs. trying to force their beliefs on anyone else). What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? Along the lines of what others have said, it would be pretty hard for me because of my beliefs in the afterlife, etc. but I will love them and respect them just as if they had the same beliefs as me, engage them in respectful conversations when I can, and I pray for the best. I've never seen any good come out of a parent trying to force their religious beliefs on a child who believes differently... it seems to always push them further away.
ETA: Also, fun fact, since apparently this needs to be said... I also believe in science. ;-)
What is your religion if any? I am a non-practicing christian. I believe in the general beliefs but not necessarily the details, and I don't attend church.
Did you grow up with this religion/belief? I grew up in the United Church of Canada which is a very liberal Protestant church. We went most Sundays and I was confirmed as a member at 15.
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? Yep. Also a non-practicing christian.
Will you raise LO with it? We don't attend church, so LO won't ether. If at some point, DS or this LO show and interest in religion (any religion) I will take him or her. We debated getting DS baptised, but in my church it is a promise to raise the child in the church. I couldn't promise that, so we did not.
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? How will you parent that? I could care less what religion my children choose to practice, so long as they are good, kind, productive members of society.
Did you grow up with this religion/belief? I grew up United Methodist. I still attend church, but the majority of my Dad's side is Catholic, so I spent many mornings also at mass.
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? In a way yes. Our morals,etc all line up but we grew up in separate religions.
Will you raise LO with it? We raise our children to know God, and pray, but we aren't forcing any specific relgion on them. If they want to go to church with me; great. If they want to go with DH to pray; also great. We are more focused on raising them to be a good person and to help others.
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? I guess I semi answered with the above question. Whatever our children decide, we will support them. We will answer any and all questions they have to the best of our ability.
@Knottie1447173547 Look, agree to disagree I guess. You are simply continually phrasing things in a way that is easy to read as an insult. Continually.
If it were a one time thing or I was the only one noticing it then I would admit, its just me. At this point, girl, it's you. I'm just going to repeat the advice I gave you previously on the work vs SAHM thread... maybe actually think about what you are writing before you hit the post button.
I think very clearly when I am talking about my own perspective and my own opinions. sorry to anyone that doesn't like what I have to say but I have never bashed, bullied or directly insulted anyone on this board so if you're going to look into every single word that people right and feel insulted by what they personally believe then that's your call I guess .That's not what I use this board for. Cheers
@Knottie1447173547 Look, agree to disagree I guess. You are simply continually phrasing things in a way that is easy to read as an insult. Continually.
If it were a one time thing or I was the only one noticing it then I would admit, its just me. At this point, girl, it's you. I'm just going to repeat the advice I gave you previously on the work vs SAHM thread... maybe actually think about what you are writing before you hit the post button.
I think very clearly when I am talking about my own perspective and my own opinions. sorry to anyone that doesn't like what I have to say but I have never bashed, bullied or directly insulted anyone on this board so if you're going to look into every single word that people right and feel insulted by what they personally believe then that's your call I guess .That's not what I use this board for. Cheers
I don't look into every single word people WRITE, nor am I insulted by what you believe.
Im aggravated that you appeared to say that since you don't believe in God then that must mean you believe in science. As if my belief in God equates to a disbelief in science. The two are not mutually exclusive and I wasn't thrilled that your wording insinuated that you believed they were.
We're now up to 4 posters that think your wording was shitty. Suck it up and admit your statement could have been more tactful.
@Knottie1447173547 Look, agree to disagree I guess. You are simply continually phrasing things in a way that is easy to read as an insult. Continually.
If it were a one time thing or I was the only one noticing it then I would admit, its just me. At this point, girl, it's you. I'm just going to repeat the advice I gave you previously on the work vs SAHM thread... maybe actually think about what you are writing before you hit the post button.
I think very clearly when I am talking about my own perspective and my own opinions. sorry to anyone that doesn't like what I have to say but I have never bashed, bullied or directly insulted anyone on this board so if you're going to look into every single word that people right and feel insulted by what they personally believe then that's your call I guess .That's not what I use this board for. Cheers
I like how you continually ignore what other people are saying to you to come back to respond only to me. This board is for INTERACTING not spouting your beliefs with no regard for how other people may interpret your words with no context of knowing your personality or having any sort of other non-verbal communication cues.
Just because you are not directly insulting someone doesn't mean you aren't insulting them. Intentionally or not, it's common courtesy to admit when you chose poor wording.
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Did you grow up with this religion/belief? Yes. It was/is the dominant religion where I grew up and live currently. While I went to public school, we were pulled out of class for religion class once a week all through school (how they did that with the whole separation of church/state thing, I don't know). As I got older, I started resenting Catholicism more and more, as a lot of my political views don't align. I begrudgingly was confirmed and only went to church on Christmas & Easter for a long time. We married in the Catholic church and lately, we've been going to church more but we're not overly involved and I still struggle with reconciling some of the beliefs to my own.
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? Yes, he grew up attending Catholic school and is currently teaching in a Catholic school.
Will you raise LO with it? We're going to raise LO in the Catholic church and will have him/her baptized and receive the first sacraments. I want to try to be more positive about church-going because it was so forced upon me and I know that's why I turned away in my teen years. That said, if LO eventually pushes back, I'm not going to force anything on him/her. I remember so vividly that my class' confirmation was pushed back to our junior year of HS (after being 8th/9th grade previously) because they wanted us to make the decision to be confirmed on our own. Yeahhhh, right. Like my parents would have allowed me to say no. That's a decision I'd like to offer my own child.
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? We're going to give LO the leeway to determine what's right for him or herself.
@Knottie1447173547 Look, agree to disagree I guess. You are simply continually phrasing things in a way that is easy to read as an insult. Continually.
If it were a one time thing or I was the only one noticing it then I would admit, its just me. At this point, girl, it's you. I'm just going to repeat the advice I gave you previously on the work vs SAHM thread... maybe actually think about what you are writing before you hit the post button.
I think very clearly when I am talking about my own perspective and my own opinions. sorry to anyone that doesn't like what I have to say but I have never bashed, bullied or directly insulted anyone on this board so if you're going to look into every single word that people right and feel insulted by what they personally believe then that's your call I guess .That's not what I use this board for. Cheers
I don't look into every single word people WRITE, nor am I insulted by what you believe.
Im aggravated that you appeared to say that since you don't believe in God then that must mean you believe in science. As if my belief in God equates to a disbelief in science. The two are not mutually exclusive and I wasn't thrilled that your wording insinuated that you believed they were.
We're now up to 4 posters that think your wording was shitty. Suck it up and admit your statement could have been more tactful.
Just in case it wasn't clear from my ETA, I also read your comment as saying that you don't believe in God because you believe in science. I think it might be the poor placement of the question mark in your post. You have to understand that when you are WRITING something to a group of people who do not know your personality and do not have the benefit of nonverbal cues, you have to think a little harder about what you write, so that you don't unintentionally come off as a jerk.
I'm new here and I haven't seen your other posts, but if multiple people are noting that your posts are coming off as insulting, it's definitely an issue that you need to be more thoughtful about.
I heart theSkimm I heart YNAB --------- “Happiness can be found even in the darkest of times, if one only remembers to turn on the light." - Albus Dumbledore
Did you grow up with this religion/belief? No I grew up the religion of the month I was sprinkled I was done I was baptized I was confirmed and all the Christian religions. It wasn't until I was in grad school that I began going to a Catholic church. When I moved home to help take care of my mom I formally converted.
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? He was born and raised Catholic. We got married in the Catholic Church that he was raised in. But by my priest from a different church his priest got confused and my brother and sister-in-law got married and called my brother-in-law by the wrong name.
Will you raise LO with it? Our children are being raised in the Catholic tradition. They have all been baptized in the church, they'll go through the sacraments for first communion, continue on to confirmation. We got to church on Sunday's and we have the huge family dinner with the in-laws.
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? They can do what they want when they are no longer under my roof. Until then they're expected to go to church, and to participate in our families tradition.
What is your religion if any? Was raised Catholic, but currently am not a practicing Catholic. There are only certain things in Catholicism that I can come to terms with. Mostly, I doubt the unknown of after-life.
Did you grow up with this religion/belief ? Yes, absolutely. My parents had us in service every Sunday morning. I participated in the church choir, church soccer team, and did my Communion and Confirmation there. I also met DH there (who is also, ironically, not very religious either).
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? He was also raised Catholic but differently. His single mother did not worship on Sundays, instead she heavily prayed to saints and if her prayers were answered, she would "pay" her promise to the Saints by visiting the church and lighting candles in her Shrine. Very different then myself.
Will you raise LO with it? I'm not yet sure how I will raise her. The church was a good thing in a sense but it was also a bad thing for me. I would like for her to be baptized, also do her communion, and also do her confirmation. Should she decide to marry within the Church, she will at least be afforded that holy right. I would much rather teach her important morals on my own then through the church. It would be her choosing as to how much involvement she will have in the church. Also, she will not be going to socialize there. I made that mistake and it ended very badly.
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? That would be their choice. I would love her nonetheless and if that meant supporting her by attending every so often, I would do it for her. Like I said, the church is not bad, but it wasn't amazing for me either.
So...totes don't want to get flamed for anything I'm about to say so don't take it the wrong way. But, I'm honestly surprised how many here follow a religion (again. don't read into that. I'm not saying that's a bad thing). It really has me thinking. Most, if not all, of my friends aren't religious like us so I think it makes me assume that most people aren't as well. I never really thought about it but I wonder how much of a role it's played in my social groups. Or, maybe more of it has to do with where I was raised. I can tell you the time I spent in "the bible belt" in my adulthood was entirely different than the time I spent growing up in Washington state.
Anyway, that is all. Just feeling very enlightened today about this.
What is your religion if any? I'm vaguely Catholic.
Did you grow up with this religion/belief? Yes I grew up Catholic. My mom is super religious and my dad just somewhat.
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? He was also raised Catholic and minus college went to private Catholic schools all his life. But he identifies as an atheist.
Will you raise LO with it? I want our children baptized at minimum, but I know hubby won't really participate in going to church regularly. I stopped going years ago so I think it'll be a minor part of our lives.
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? What would the opposite really be? I believe in God and would like our children to believe and have faith, but I hated how religion was forced on me growing up. Hubby believes in science, so if LO doesn't agree with me then daddy can guide them. I want my children to know that there are many beliefs and all should be respected.
What is your religion if any? It's somewhat complex. I'm Wicca but the way my group works we have very heavy buddhist ove buddhist overtones. Did you grow up with this religion/belief? Ish... again complex. My dad was very firmly "to whom it may concern." while believing what humans do with it all is just crazy. My mother was very until she felt a calling in the church that the Catholic Church would not allow a female to pursue and so she changed to Episcopalian. I went to church here and there, but I always felt weird about it. Does SO share the same beliefs as you? Not at all. He's Jewish but doesn't strongly observe. Will you raise LO with it? My DD had a blessing way, but I've never forced her to do anything. She goes to church with her dad's family at times, but has been known to proudly declare that she is a Jewish Witch. We are seriously the household of ChrismHanuYulemas. My stepsons are 2 Christian and one Jewish so we celebrate everything, but we tend to do so by also explaining the history and roots of the various holidays. What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? I don't know for sure what being the opposite of a house that's some of everything would be, but I do know we are a very believe what works for you so long as you are happy and not hurting others family so...
What is your religion if any? I'm Christian, Lutheran Church Missouri Synod to be specific
Did you grow up with this religion/belief? I grew up Catholic, but became Lutheran when I married DH
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? YES, he is actually a vicar working towards becoming the pastor of our church
Will you raise LO with it? Yes we have been, actually one of the things I am most proud of as a parent is how well the older two (8 and 6) know God. One of my personal pet peeves is when people insinuate that we are "forcing our religion on our children". Will you be teaching your child to read? Why are you forcing that on them? Because you know it is the best thing for them and will have substantial positive repercussions through their life. Replace reading with a love of God
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? I can't lie it would be disappointing. You would stop your child from running out into the street, why wouldn't you stop your child from spiritual ruin. If they were to become a different denomination of Christian I would be fine with that. Ultimately it is a personal choice that can't be forced, but I would be disappointed.
Did you grow up with this religion/belief? Yes - family is very traditional catholic from Mexico. I was baptized in Mexico at a young age, and received my next 4 Sacraments in the same church. Getting married in my childhood church was important to me, tho it wasn't my childhood priest.
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? He was raised religious, with influence from his bapist maternal grandmother and catholic paternal grandmother. He has never really practiced, his parents aren't religious, but he believes in god. He agreed to get married in the Catholic Church and go through a Catholicism 101 crash course for marriage prep - but neither of us have attended church beyond family events or the occasional day of holy obligation since high school.
Will you raise LO with it? It's important to both of us for baby to know god and to know faith, but religion has left a bad taste in both of our mouths. I hope to attend church as a family but I think we'd have to find the right fit. At the very least, baby will be baptized and have god parents that will help us guide them in faith.
I really struggle with this idea of finding a church that fits me instead of fitting into God's church/word. I think Catholics really stress that it's not the priest - it's the message and the faith, but I haven't felt connected or fulfilled after a liturgy/mass in a long time.
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? Like I said, I think it's important for them to know god, love, and faith - and make of it what they will. I hope to find a meaningful organized method of faith that leaves a good enough impression on the kid that they stick with some sort of connection with god. But in the end, I just want them to be a good person.
What is your religion if any? I'm Christian, Lutheran Church Missouri Synod to be specific
Did you grow up with this religion/belief? I grew up Catholic, but became Lutheran when I married DH
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? YES, he is actually a vicar working towards becoming the pastor of our church
Will you raise LO with it? Yes we have been, actually one of the things I am most proud of as a parent is how well the older two (8 and 6) know God. One of my personal pet peeves is when people insinuate that we are "forcing our religion on our children". Will you be teaching your child to read? Why are you forcing that on them? Because you know it is the best thing for them and will have substantial positive repercussions through their life. Replace reading with a love of God
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? I can't lie it would be disappointing. You would stop your child from running out into the street, why wouldn't you stop your child from spiritual ruin. If they were to become a different denomination of Christian I would be fine with that. Ultimately it is a personal choice that can't be forced, but I would be disappointed.
I am not offended by your statements because I'm confident in the decisions I've made in my life surrounding religion. But I do feel it could be offensive to some to use the phrase "spiritual ruin" as the opposite of being Christian. Am I understanding your comment correctly? In the event that your child decides later life to not follow a religion I do hope that you have peace in knowing that many people who are not religious or not Christian are extremely spiritual and have many other things that they turn to to guide them in life, provide comfort and help them to be a good ethical moral person in society :-)
What is your religion if any? I'm Christian, Lutheran Church Missouri Synod to be specific
Did you grow up with this religion/belief? I grew up Catholic, but became Lutheran when I married DH
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? YES, he is actually a vicar working towards becoming the pastor of our church
Will you raise LO with it? Yes we have been, actually one of the things I am most proud of as a parent is how well the older two (8 and 6) know God. One of my personal pet peeves is when people insinuate that we are "forcing our religion on our children". Will you be teaching your child to read? Why are you forcing that on them? Because you know it is the best thing for them and will have substantial positive repercussions through their life. Replace reading with a love of God
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? I can't lie it would be disappointing. You would stop your child from running out into the street, why wouldn't you stop your child from spiritual ruin. If they were to become a different denomination of Christian I would be fine with that. Ultimately it is a personal choice that can't be forced, but I would be disappointed.
I am not offended by your statements because I'm confident in the decisions I've made in my life surrounding religion. But I do feel it could be offensive to some to use the phrase "spiritual ruin" as the opposite of being Christian. Am I understanding your comment correctly? In the event that your child decides later life to not follow a religion I do hope that you have peace in knowing that many people who are not religious or not Christian are extremely spiritual and have many other things that they turn to to guide them in life, provide comfort and help them to be a good ethical moral person in society :-)
I'm glad you aren't offended and I'm sorry to annyone I did offend. I did try to think of a gentler way of saying that if you don't believe in God and that Jesus is God who saved you from your sins you are going to Hell, but I couldn't think of one. I guess that we can both take comfort in the fact that you don't believe in Heaven and Hell so it isn't really a problem for you. I'm not sure how to emphasize how important God is to someone who doesn't believe. He is the single most important thing in the universe. There is just no comparing him to anyone or anything else.
You did understand me correctly in that if my children rejected God I believe that they would be wrong and missing something In their lives. Having God in your life is like having a precious friend and guiding parent who loves you infanantly more than any person. I wouldn't want my children to go without that, I don't want anyone to go without that! I truely hope that one day you come to God and know Jesus as your savior because it is the greatest gift I could ever imagine.
Now please don't imagine that I have lived a sheltered life where everyone I ever met or was friends with was a Christian, because that is just not true! I don't assume you are dumb because you don't accept this simple truth, please don't assume that I am some backwater hick who has no life experience.
@purplestarz I think that's interesting, too! Most of my social group is a lot like me- moderately religious, off and on about going to church. One example of how we tend to hang out with people like us, maybe.
What is your religion if any? I'm Christian, Lutheran Church Missouri Synod to be specific
Did you grow up with this religion/belief? I grew up Catholic, but became Lutheran when I married DH
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? YES, he is actually a vicar working towards becoming the pastor of our church
Will you raise LO with it? Yes we have been, actually one of the things I am most proud of as a parent is how well the older two (8 and 6) know God. One of my personal pet peeves is when people insinuate that we are "forcing our religion on our children". Will you be teaching your child to read? Why are you forcing that on them? Because you know it is the best thing for them and will have substantial positive repercussions through their life. Replace reading with a love of God
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? I can't lie it would be disappointing. You would stop your child from running out into the street, why wouldn't you stop your child from spiritual ruin. If they were to become a different denomination of Christian I would be fine with that. Ultimately it is a personal choice that can't be forced, but I would be disappointed.
I am not offended by your statements because I'm confident in the decisions I've made in my life surrounding religion. But I do feel it could be offensive to some to use the phrase "spiritual ruin" as the opposite of being Christian. Am I understanding your comment correctly? In the event that your child decides later life to not follow a religion I do hope that you have peace in knowing that many people who are not religious or not Christian are extremely spiritual and have many other things that they turn to to guide them in life, provide comfort and help them to be a good ethical moral person in society :-)
I'm glad you aren't offended and I'm sorry to annyone I did offend. I did try to think of a gentler way of saying that if you don't believe in God and that Jesus is God who saved you from your sins you are going to Hell, but I couldn't think of one. I guess that we can both take comfort in the fact that you don't believe in Heaven and Hell so it isn't really a problem for you. I'm not sure how to emphasize how important God is to someone who doesn't believe. He is the single most important thing in the universe. There is just no comparing him to anyone or anything else.
You did understand me correctly in that if my children rejected God I believe that they would be wrong and missing something In their lives. Having God in your life is like having a precious friend and guiding parent who loves you infanantly more than any person. I wouldn't want my children to go without that, I don't want anyone to go without that! I truely hope that one day you come to God and know Jesus as your savior because it is the greatest gift I could ever imagine.
Now please don't imagine that I have lived a sheltered life where everyone I ever met or was friends with was a Christian, because that is just not true! I don't assume you are dumb because you don't accept this simple truth, please don't assume that I am some backwater hick who has no life experience.
No no I don't think you are a backwater hick or sheltered or anything:) your opinion is your opinion and that's what we are being asked on here. It just would seem unfortunate to me if a parent thought their child would be in spiritual ruin if they made a different choice. but I'm glad it brings so much to your life. I guess I just wanted to speak up as someone who certainly doesn't feel ruined. I have the love of my life, wonderful family relationships, meditation, yoga, singing, many things give me confidence and strength to handle life's challenges and bring me peace of mind daily. But again, to each their own.
Did you grow up with this religion/belief? No, thankfully. I do not have much of a concept for believing in God. Religion to me is just an aspect of cultural identity that I don't have.
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? Maybe? He grew up very religious and was a part of a church as an adult but now does not talk about his personal experience with it much.
Will you raise LO with it? As agnostic, yes. I think learning about other religions and cultures is extremely valuable and basic Biblical scripture is necessary for understanding a lot of art and literature though.
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? Depends. I have serious issues with the kind of Christianity that people tend to convert to. I find the beliefs offensive and contradictory. If LO expressed desire to go to church while young I would let them attend a Mennonite-ish place where faith is expressed mostly in how you live and treat others. I would not forbid them from anything short of a cult but I would not silence my opinion and concern.
What is your religion if any? The best way to describe me is an apathetic agnostic. Meaning I don't know if God exists but I don't really care one way or the other. Did you grow up with this religion/belief? I was raised Catholic in the sense that my parents taught me some of the beliefs and such but we never went to mass or did anything with the church. I believe in God for most of my life but I eventually became disenchanted by religion in general. It just became something I did because I was "supposed to" rather then because I honestly felt anything. Does SO share the same beliefs as you? He was raised Methodist. He's religious when it suits him. Will you raise LO with it? I don't plan on raising LO in a religion. DH and I don't go to church but his family does so I expect LO to ask about it eventually. We live in the South so it'll definitely come up. What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? It wouldn't bother me. I will raise them to be tolerant/respectful of all beliefs. If they decide they want to start going to church, I'll let them go with someone I know and trust.
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What is your religion if any? I don't really have one. I have many beliefs and I am not faithless... however I have problems with organized religion that don't sit right with me. I believe in a higher power or "God" for lack of a better term for it. I believe that God is the driving life force for all things. I don't picture God as being a person in a kingdom beyond somewhere hanging out and making choices for the benefit or detriment of mankind. God is more than mankind- God is the Universe and beyond. I believe in a heaven of sorts, or at least the next world where we meet our loved ones after death. I don't believe in hell. I believe in reincarnation. I believe some things are meant to be and some things happen for a reason. I believe I'm watched over and guided by departed loved ones- that they act as guardian angels of sorts.I believe in being a good person, being true to yourself, being kind, compassionate, respectful and loving to others. These things make you a good person... not whether or not you attend church, do certain rituals, pray a certain amount of times, give money to a church, or are Christian. (Because being Christian automatically makes you a good person *rolls eyes*)
Did you grow up with this religion/belief? I wasn't raised with much religion. My mom was raised Catholic and hated it. She wanted her children to make their own decisions on what to believe. I think my dad was raised a Christian, but he never talked about it. Actually, now that I think of it, I think he's more atheist than anything. But again... he doesn't really talk about it.
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? Somewhat I think. He was raised Catholic, but he doesn't practice. He doesn't really talk too much about religion, but he definitely retains certain Catholic ideals. One time I told him I loved him unconditionally- he told me only God can love unconditionally. He was SO finite with his statement-like it was a fact that couldn't be disputed. He'll say things here and there like that, but then he has no desire to go to church. I asked him if he wanted to raise kids with religion or in a church... he was like- meh.
Will you raise LO with it? I will teach my kids to be tolerant and respect religion. We will pray at dinners where people pray. We will go to church with relatives on occasion if they ask (specifically thinking of the time I went to Christmas eve mass with my MIL.. it was beautiful.) I will tell them about God and heaven- and the major bible stories. (Because I think it's important to know them in life- whether or not you believe it.) I will allow them to go to church with friends if they want to. But I probably won't be a church member myself or have any formal religion.
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? Honestly, as long as they don't join a cult or get super pushy and try to force their beliefs on other people- I will welcome anything they want to believe. (That goes about atheism too- I have a cousin who's atheist... and he is SO pushy about it. He's as annoying as the people who are super religious and damn you to hell for not being the same.)
I wanted to add- I'm a scientist by profession. I don't understand how people say they "believe" in science. Science isn't something to believe in... science is fact. Sure there's science that hasn't been proven and you can form your own opinions on whether or not you think a theory is right or wrong... but in the end science is measurement- it's calculation, it's observation, and it's repeatable. You can choose to say you don't believe in gravity... at the end of the day.. you're still being pulled to the Earth- it doesn't make it not true.
Ooo @crazypuglady I do like your H's response to that! While I do love my H very much, along with my family members and best friends, I *can* think of terrible circumstances (cheating, they turn out to be a serial killer, stuff like that) that would kill that love.
Kids may be different, I'm not sure yet, but it is nice to think that there is one being in the world who does love us truly unconditionally.
What is your religion if any? I have a personal relationship with my Savior, Jesus Christ. Did you grow up with this religion/belief? yes I did, but I grew up pentacostal and now we attend a nondenominational church which lines up with our beliefs more. Does SO share the same beliefs as you? yes, he is an incredible man of God. Will you raise LO with it? absolutely. What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? I'm not going to worry about that at this moment. Not because it couldn't happen, but because there's no sense in worrying about it now. I will love my children for who they are and pray that they come to know and love the Lord on their own and develop their own personal relationship with Him. I will teach them as best as I can with what God has given me, but their salvation won't come by my own strength.
What is your religion if any? Catholic Did you grow up with this religion/belief? No, though I went to Catholic school for two years but it was for academic reasons. Does SO share the same beliefs as you? He was raised Catholic but had fallen away but returned when I entered the Church. Will you raise LO with it? Absolutely. We attend as a family every Sunday and all of our kids have received the Sacraments as the come of age. What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? While they live with us, they will attend Mass with the family. We hope and pray that we have been setting a good example in living the Faith and they are being taught about their Faith (we homeschool) and why it's our family's belief. If they were to follow something else when they grow up, I would be upset and would be praying a lot but there's not much I could do at that point.
@purplestarz Growing up in Maryland, people just didn't talk about religion. It was considering strange and sort of rude to do so. Now I live in the mountains of North Carolina (mostly Baptist) and religion is very much an open part of life to most of the local people....people pray at gatherings, will ask you where you go to church, and will easily talk about Jesus. However, my friends who are "transplants" in the area, especially the "liberals", seem much less inclined to go to church unless it's something like the Unitarian Universalists. It's a really stark difference where I am. And then I'm stuck in the middle....locals can't understand how I can be a weirdo Catholic but consider myself a Christian and the transplants can't understand how I can follow something so archaic as the Catholic Church
Did you grow up with this religion/belief? Yes, catholic school from pre-k through 12th grade. I was very active within my church's youth group in high school.
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? He was raised Catholic and attended Catholic schools as well
Will you raise LO with it? We baptized DD and will do the same with this LO but truthfully we havent started bringing her to weekly services mostly because we dont attend mass. This is something I'd like to change
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? I would be totally supportive in however she plans to live out her faith. I think religion provides a great moral path but I know plenty of moral people who don't believe in any religion. I just want her to be a good person
What is your religion if any? I'm Christian, Lutheran Church Missouri Synod to be specific
Did you grow up with this religion/belief? I grew up Catholic, but became Lutheran when I married DH
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? YES, he is actually a vicar working towards becoming the pastor of our church
Will you raise LO with it? Yes we have been, actually one of the things I am most proud of as a parent is how well the older two (8 and 6) know God. One of my personal pet peeves is when people insinuate that we are "forcing our religion on our children". Will you be teaching your child to read? Why are you forcing that on them? Because you know it is the best thing for them and will have substantial positive repercussions through their life. Replace reading with a love of God
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? I can't lie it would be disappointing. You would stop your child from running out into the street, why wouldn't you stop your child from spiritual ruin. If they were to become a different denomination of Christian I would be fine with that. Ultimately it is a personal choice that can't be forced, but I would be disappointed.
I am not offended by your statements because I'm confident in the decisions I've made in my life surrounding religion. But I do feel it could be offensive to some to use the phrase "spiritual ruin" as the opposite of being Christian. Am I understanding your comment correctly? In the event that your child decides later life to not follow a religion I do hope that you have peace in knowing that many people who are not religious or not Christian are extremely spiritual and have many other things that they turn to to guide them in life, provide comfort and help them to be a good ethical moral person in society :-)
I just want to make sure I'm clear on how this works.
So, if someone calls YOU out on something you've said that that could be offensive, were mean and "reading into everything you write".
But when you call *someone else* out on something that could be offensive, that's totally fine and you get an apology?
Ill just be over hear waiting for my apology for when you insinuated that working moms don't raise their kids and people who believe in God don't subscribe to science.
@natleilynn Can you insert the skeleton waiting on a bench meme here?
What is your religion if any? I'm Christian, Lutheran Church Missouri Synod to be specific
Did you grow up with this religion/belief? I grew up Catholic, but became Lutheran when I married DH
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? YES, he is actually a vicar working towards becoming the pastor of our church
Will you raise LO with it? Yes we have been, actually one of the things I am most proud of as a parent is how well the older two (8 and 6) know God. One of my personal pet peeves is when people insinuate that we are "forcing our religion on our children". Will you be teaching your child to read? Why are you forcing that on them? Because you know it is the best thing for them and will have substantial positive repercussions through their life. Replace reading with a love of God
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? I can't lie it would be disappointing. You would stop your child from running out into the street, why wouldn't you stop your child from spiritual ruin. If they were to become a different denomination of Christian I would be fine with that. Ultimately it is a personal choice that can't be forced, but I would be disappointed.
I am not offended by your statements because I'm confident in the decisions I've made in my life surrounding religion. But I do feel it could be offensive to some to use the phrase "spiritual ruin" as the opposite of being Christian. Am I understanding your comment correctly? In the event that your child decides later life to not follow a religion I do hope that you have peace in knowing that many people who are not religious or not Christian are extremely spiritual and have many other things that they turn to to guide them in life, provide comfort and help them to be a good ethical moral person in society :-)
I just want to make sure I'm clear on how this works.
So, if someone calls YOU out on something you've said that that could be offensive, were mean and "reading into everything you write".
But when you call *someone else* out on something that could be offensive, that's totally fine and you get an apology?
Ill just be over hear waiting for my apology for when you insinuated that working moms don't raise their kids and people who believe in God don't subscribe to science.
@natleilynn Can you insert the skeleton waiting on a bench meme here?
I did apologize for using the word "raise":) her comment wasn't so much an insinuation or you had to read into, it was a directly negative insult to anyone who's not Christian. To be honest I couldn't believe that no one had called her out immediately given how quickly everyone gets called out around here and hers was so blatant. But again her I had a nice little chat about it and it's all good so I'm not sure your beef is.doesnt really make sense to me that everyone else can do that but the one time I wanted to debate a little or offer an other perspective on someone's view I'm not allowed? I've been on here for years and have been called out for offending only twice so just let it goooo.
I'm sure it was super hard not to say offensive things when 75%+ of your posts before joining this BMB were on the Baby Names board.
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What is your religion if any? I'm Christian, Lutheran Church Missouri Synod to be specific
Did you grow up with this religion/belief? I grew up Catholic, but became Lutheran when I married DH
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? YES, he is actually a vicar working towards becoming the pastor of our church
Will you raise LO with it? Yes we have been, actually one of the things I am most proud of as a parent is how well the older two (8 and 6) know God. One of my personal pet peeves is when people insinuate that we are "forcing our religion on our children". Will you be teaching your child to read? Why are you forcing that on them? Because you know it is the best thing for them and will have substantial positive repercussions through their life. Replace reading with a love of God
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? I can't lie it would be disappointing. You would stop your child from running out into the street, why wouldn't you stop your child from spiritual ruin. If they were to become a different denomination of Christian I would be fine with that. Ultimately it is a personal choice that can't be forced, but I would be disappointed.
I am not offended by your statements because I'm confident in the decisions I've made in my life surrounding religion. But I do feel it could be offensive to some to use the phrase "spiritual ruin" as the opposite of being Christian. Am I understanding your comment correctly? In the event that your child decides later life to not follow a religion I do hope that you have peace in knowing that many people who are not religious or not Christian are extremely spiritual and have many other things that they turn to to guide them in life, provide comfort and help them to be a good ethical moral person in society :-)
I just want to make sure I'm clear on how this works.
So, if someone calls YOU out on something you've said that that could be offensive, were mean and "reading into everything you write".
But when you call *someone else* out on something that could be offensive, that's totally fine and you get an apology?
Ill just be over hear waiting for my apology for when you insinuated that working moms don't raise their kids and people who believe in God don't subscribe to science.
@natleilynn Can you insert the skeleton waiting on a bench meme here?
I did apologize for using the word "raise":) her comment wasn't so much an insinuation or you had to read into, it was a directly negative insult to anyone who's not Christian. To be honest I couldn't believe that no one had called her out immediately given how quickly everyone gets called out around here and hers was so blatant. But again her I had a nice little chat about it and it's all good so I'm not sure your beef is.doesnt really make sense to me that everyone else can do that but the one time I wanted to debate a little or offer an other perspective on someone's view I'm not allowed? I've been on here for years and have been called out for offending only twice so just let it goooo.
You were able to have a little debate because the person that you were talking to was mature enough to say, "I'm sorry, I can see how that could have been hurtful."
If @jessafishy and I were afforded that same luxury when we talked to you, we probably would've just had a little debate and moved on as well. However, you obviously lack the ability to admit you were wrong.
My "beef" is that instead of trying to mesh along with the people on this board, you get defensive when called out but find it OK to call out others.
What is your religion if any? I'm Christian, Lutheran Church Missouri Synod to be specific
Did you grow up with this religion/belief? I grew up Catholic, but became Lutheran when I married DH
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? YES, he is actually a vicar working towards becoming the pastor of our church
Will you raise LO with it? Yes we have been, actually one of the things I am most proud of as a parent is how well the older two (8 and 6) know God. One of my personal pet peeves is when people insinuate that we are "forcing our religion on our children". Will you be teaching your child to read? Why are you forcing that on them? Because you know it is the best thing for them and will have substantial positive repercussions through their life. Replace reading with a love of God
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? I can't lie it would be disappointing. You would stop your child from running out into the street, why wouldn't you stop your child from spiritual ruin. If they were to become a different denomination of Christian I would be fine with that. Ultimately it is a personal choice that can't be forced, but I would be disappointed.
I am not offended by your statements because I'm confident in the decisions I've made in my life surrounding religion. But I do feel it could be offensive to some to use the phrase "spiritual ruin" as the opposite of being Christian. Am I understanding your comment correctly? In the event that your child decides later life to not follow a religion I do hope that you have peace in knowing that many people who are not religious or not Christian are extremely spiritual and have many other things that they turn to to guide them in life, provide comfort and help them to be a good ethical moral person in society :-)
I just want to make sure I'm clear on how this works.
So, if someone calls YOU out on something you've said that that could be offensive, were mean and "reading into everything you write".
But when you call *someone else* out on something that could be offensive, that's totally fine and you get an apology?
Ill just be over hear waiting for my apology for when you insinuated that working moms don't raise their kids and people who believe in God don't subscribe to science.
@natleilynn Can you insert the skeleton waiting on a bench meme here?
I did apologize for using the word "raise":) her comment wasn't so much an insinuation or you had to read into, it was a directly negative insult to anyone who's not Christian. To be honest I couldn't believe that no one had called her out immediately given how quickly everyone gets called out around here and hers was so blatant. But again her I had a nice little chat about it and it's all good so I'm not sure your beef is.doesnt really make sense to me that everyone else can do that but the one time I wanted to debate a little or offer an other perspective on someone's view I'm not allowed? I've been on here for years and have been called out for offending only twice so just let it goooo.
You were able to have a little debate because the person that you were talking to was mature enough to say, "I'm sorry, I can see how that could have been hurtful."
If @jessafishy and I were afforded that same luxury when we talked to you, we probably would've just had a little debate and moved on as well. However, you obviously lack the ability to admit you were wrong.
My "beef" is that instead of trying to mesh along with the people on this board, you get defensive when called out but find it OK to call out others.
Kettle, meet pot. Pot, meet kettle.
She did apologize but was also pretty stern about her views opposingnto mine and still we were both mature and civil, able to have a conversation. Isn't that nice? This is a little high school drama for me. I'm not defensive at all. I don't make a habit of apologizing for things I didn't say or mean. So by explaining that that was not what I meant , we should be able to move on. I don't really have the negative energy in me for this so that's all for me. No hardbfeelings:) We just don't understand each other but you I both both have a lot of other people who get us and who we click with so it's all good.
Re: GKTY: religion
When one person takes offense, they're probably reading too much into it.
When three people take offense, you probably insinuated something shitty.
Did you grow up with this religion/belief? Yes, although I grew up in churches that were pretty "name it/claim it" and focused a lot on money which I've tried to avoid as an adult.
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? Yep
Will you raise LO with it? Yes, and I especially hope to raise them to focus on the important parts to me... i.e. showing love and respect to everyone, regardless of their beliefs, helping those in need, and taking care of the poor (vs. trying to force their beliefs on anyone else).
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? Along the lines of what others have said, it would be pretty hard for me because of my beliefs in the afterlife, etc. but I will love them and respect them just as if they had the same beliefs as me, engage them in respectful conversations when I can, and I pray for the best. I've never seen any good come out of a parent trying to force their religious beliefs on a child who believes differently... it seems to always push them further away.
ETA: Also, fun fact, since apparently this needs to be said... I also believe in science. ;-)
Did you grow up with this religion/belief? I grew up in the United Church of Canada which is a very liberal Protestant church. We went most Sundays and I was confirmed as a member at 15.
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? Yep. Also a non-practicing christian.
Will you raise LO with it? We don't attend church, so LO won't ether. If at some point, DS or this LO show and interest in religion (any religion) I will take him or her. We debated getting DS baptised, but in my church it is a promise to raise the child in the church. I couldn't promise that, so we did not.
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? How will you parent that? I could care less what religion my children choose to practice, so long as they are good, kind, productive members of society.
Christian
Did you grow up with this religion/belief?
I grew up United Methodist. I still attend church, but the majority of my Dad's side is Catholic, so I spent many mornings also at mass.
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? In a way yes. Our morals,etc all line up but we grew up in separate religions.
Will you raise LO with it?
We raise our children to know God, and pray, but we aren't forcing any specific relgion on them. If they want to go to church with me; great. If they want to go with DH to pray; also great. We are more focused on raising them to be a good person and to help others.
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all?
I guess I semi answered with the above question. Whatever our children decide, we will support them. We will answer any and all questions they have to the best of our ability.
Im aggravated that you appeared to say that since you don't believe in God then that must mean you believe in science. As if my belief in God equates to a disbelief in science. The two are not mutually exclusive and I wasn't thrilled that your wording insinuated that you believed they were.
We're now up to 4 posters that think your wording was shitty. Suck it up and admit your statement could have been more tactful.
Just because you are not directly insulting someone doesn't mean you aren't insulting them. Intentionally or not, it's common courtesy to admit when you chose poor wording.
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if one only remembers to turn on the light."
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Did you grow up with this religion/belief? Yes. It was/is the dominant religion where I grew up and live currently. While I went to public school, we were pulled out of class for religion class once a week all through school (how they did that with the whole separation of church/state thing, I don't know). As I got older, I started resenting Catholicism more and more, as a lot of my political views don't align. I begrudgingly was confirmed and only went to church on Christmas & Easter for a long time. We married in the Catholic church and lately, we've been going to church more but we're not overly involved and I still struggle with reconciling some of the beliefs to my own.
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? Yes, he grew up attending Catholic school and is currently teaching in a Catholic school.
Will you raise LO with it? We're going to raise LO in the Catholic church and will have him/her baptized and receive the first sacraments. I want to try to be more positive about church-going because it was so forced upon me and I know that's why I turned away in my teen years. That said, if LO eventually pushes back, I'm not going to force anything on him/her. I remember so vividly that my class' confirmation was pushed back to our junior year of HS (after being 8th/9th grade previously) because they wanted us to make the decision to be confirmed on our own. Yeahhhh, right. Like my parents would have allowed me to say no. That's a decision I'd like to offer my own child.
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? We're going to give LO the leeway to determine what's right for him or herself.
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I'm new here and I haven't seen your other posts, but if multiple people are noting that your posts are coming off as insulting, it's definitely an issue that you need to be more thoughtful about.
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“Happiness can be found even in the darkest of times,
if one only remembers to turn on the light."
- Albus Dumbledore
Did you grow up with this religion/belief? No I grew up the religion of the month I was sprinkled I was done I was baptized I was confirmed and all the Christian religions. It wasn't until I was in grad school that I began going to a Catholic church. When I moved home to help take care of my mom I formally converted.
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? He was born and raised Catholic. We got married in the Catholic Church that he was raised in. But by my priest from a different church his priest got confused and my brother and sister-in-law got married and called my brother-in-law by the wrong name.
Will you raise LO with it? Our children are being raised in the Catholic tradition. They have all been baptized in the church, they'll go through the sacraments for first communion, continue on to confirmation. We got to church on Sunday's and we have the huge family dinner with the in-laws.
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? They can do what they want when they are no longer under my roof. Until then they're expected to go to church, and to participate in our families tradition.
Did you grow up with this religion/belief ? Yes, absolutely. My parents had us in service every Sunday morning. I participated in the church choir, church soccer team, and did my Communion and Confirmation there. I also met DH there (who is also, ironically, not very religious either).
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? He was also raised Catholic but differently. His single mother did not worship on Sundays, instead she heavily prayed to saints and if her prayers were answered, she would "pay" her promise to the Saints by visiting the church and lighting candles in her Shrine. Very different then myself.
Will you raise LO with it? I'm not yet sure how I will raise her. The church was a good thing in a sense but it was also a bad thing for me. I would like for her to be baptized, also do her communion, and also do her confirmation. Should she decide to marry within the Church, she will at least be afforded that holy right. I would much rather teach her important morals on my own then through the church. It would be her choosing as to how much involvement she will have in the church. Also, she will not be going to socialize there. I made that mistake and it ended very badly.
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? That would be their choice. I would love her nonetheless and if that meant supporting her by attending every so often, I would do it for her. Like I said, the church is not bad, but it wasn't amazing for me either.
Anyway, that is all. Just feeling very enlightened today about this.
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I'm vaguely Catholic.
Did you grow up with this religion/belief?
Yes I grew up Catholic. My mom is super religious and my dad just somewhat.
Does SO share the same beliefs as you?
He was also raised Catholic and minus college went to private Catholic schools all his life. But he identifies as an atheist.
Will you raise LO with it?
I want our children baptized at minimum, but I know hubby won't really participate in going to church regularly. I stopped going years ago so I think it'll be a minor part of our lives.
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all?
What would the opposite really be? I believe in God and would like our children to believe and have faith, but I hated how religion was forced on me growing up. Hubby believes in science, so if LO doesn't agree with me then daddy can guide them. I want my children to know that there are many beliefs and all should be respected.
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Did you grow up with this religion/belief? Ish... again complex. My dad was very firmly "to whom it may concern." while believing what humans do with it all is just crazy. My mother was very until she felt a calling in the church that the Catholic Church would not allow a female to pursue and so she changed to Episcopalian. I went to church here and there, but I always felt weird about it.
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? Not at all. He's Jewish but doesn't strongly observe.
Will you raise LO with it? My DD had a blessing way, but I've never forced her to do anything. She goes to church with her dad's family at times, but has been known to proudly declare that she is a Jewish Witch. We are seriously the household of ChrismHanuYulemas. My stepsons are 2 Christian and one Jewish so we celebrate everything, but we tend to do so by also explaining the history and roots of the various holidays.
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? I don't know for sure what being the opposite of a house that's some of everything would be, but I do know we are a very believe what works for you so long as you are happy and not hurting others family so...
I'm Christian, Lutheran Church Missouri Synod to be specific
Did you grow up with this religion/belief?
I grew up Catholic, but became Lutheran when I married DH
Does SO share the same beliefs as you?
YES, he is actually a vicar working towards becoming the pastor of our church
Will you raise LO with it?
Yes we have been, actually one of the things I am most proud of as a parent is how well the older two (8 and 6) know God.
One of my personal pet peeves is when people insinuate that we are "forcing our religion on our children". Will you be teaching your child to read? Why are you forcing that on them? Because you know it is the best thing for them and will have substantial positive repercussions through their life. Replace reading with a love of God
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all?
I can't lie it would be disappointing. You would stop your child from running out into the street, why wouldn't you stop your child from spiritual ruin. If they were to become a different denomination of Christian I would be fine with that. Ultimately it is a personal choice that can't be forced, but I would be disappointed.
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Jason is 8
Elizabeth is 6
Katherine is 18 months
catholic - ish
Did you grow up with this religion/belief?
Yes - family is very traditional catholic from Mexico. I was baptized in Mexico at a young age, and received my next 4 Sacraments in the same church. Getting married in my childhood church was important to me, tho it wasn't my childhood priest.
Does SO share the same beliefs as you?
He was raised religious, with influence from his bapist maternal grandmother and catholic paternal grandmother. He has never really practiced, his parents aren't religious, but he believes in god. He agreed to get married in the Catholic Church and go through a Catholicism 101 crash course for marriage prep - but neither of us have attended church beyond family events or the occasional day of holy obligation since high school.
Will you raise LO with it?
It's important to both of us for baby to know god and to know faith, but religion has left a bad taste in both of our mouths. I hope to attend church as a family but I think we'd have to find the right fit. At the very least, baby will be baptized and have god parents that will help us guide them in faith.
I really struggle with this idea of finding a church that fits me instead of fitting into God's church/word. I think Catholics really stress that it's not the priest - it's the message and the faith, but I haven't felt connected or fulfilled after a liturgy/mass in a long time.
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all?
Like I said, I think it's important for them to know god, love, and faith - and make of it what they will. I hope to find a meaningful organized method of faith that leaves a good enough impression on the kid that they stick with some sort of connection with god. But in the end, I just want them to be a good person.
Great thread!
You did understand me correctly in that if my children rejected God I believe that they would be wrong and missing something In their lives. Having God in your life is like having a precious friend and guiding parent who loves you infanantly more than any person. I wouldn't want my children to go without that, I don't want anyone to go without that! I truely hope that one day you come to God and know Jesus as your savior because it is the greatest gift I could ever imagine.
Now please don't imagine that I have lived a sheltered life where everyone I ever met or was friends with was a Christian, because that is just not true! I don't assume you are dumb because you don't accept this simple truth, please don't assume that I am some backwater hick who has no life experience.
Rachel and Jeff Married 5.29.05
Jason is 8
Elizabeth is 6
Katherine is 18 months
Agnostic.
Did you grow up with this religion/belief?
No, thankfully. I do not have much of a concept for believing in God. Religion to me is just an aspect of cultural identity that I don't have.
Does SO share the same beliefs as you?
Maybe? He grew up very religious and was a part of a church as an adult but now does not talk about his personal experience with it much.
Will you raise LO with it?
As agnostic, yes. I think learning about other religions and cultures is extremely valuable and basic Biblical scripture is necessary for understanding a lot of art and literature though.
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all?
Depends. I have serious issues with the kind of Christianity that people tend to convert to. I find the beliefs offensive and contradictory. If LO expressed desire to go to church while young I would let them attend a Mennonite-ish place where faith is expressed mostly in how you live and treat others. I would not forbid them from anything short of a cult but I would not silence my opinion and concern.
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Did you grow up with this religion/belief? I was raised Catholic in the sense that my parents taught me some of the beliefs and such but we never went to mass or did anything with the church. I believe in God for most of my life but I eventually became disenchanted by religion in general. It just became something I did because I was "supposed to" rather then because I honestly felt anything.
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? He was raised Methodist. He's religious when it suits him.
Will you raise LO with it? I don't plan on raising LO in a religion. DH and I don't go to church but his family does so I expect LO to ask about it eventually. We live in the South so it'll definitely come up.
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? It wouldn't bother me. I will raise them to be tolerant/respectful of all beliefs. If they decide they want to start going to church, I'll let them go with someone I know and trust.
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Did you grow up with this religion/belief? I wasn't raised with much religion. My mom was raised Catholic and hated it. She wanted her children to make their own decisions on what to believe. I think my dad was raised a Christian, but he never talked about it. Actually, now that I think of it, I think he's more atheist than anything. But again... he doesn't really talk about it.
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? Somewhat I think. He was raised Catholic, but he doesn't practice. He doesn't really talk too much about religion, but he definitely retains certain Catholic ideals. One time I told him I loved him unconditionally- he told me only God can love unconditionally. He was SO finite with his statement-like it was a fact that couldn't be disputed. He'll say things here and there like that, but then he has no desire to go to church. I asked him if he wanted to raise kids with religion or in a church... he was like- meh.
Will you raise LO with it? I will teach my kids to be tolerant and respect religion. We will pray at dinners where people pray. We will go to church with relatives on occasion if they ask (specifically thinking of the time I went to Christmas eve mass with my MIL.. it was beautiful.) I will tell them about God and heaven- and the major bible stories. (Because I think it's important to know them in life- whether or not you believe it.) I will allow them to go to church with friends if they want to. But I probably won't be a church member myself or have any formal religion.
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? Honestly, as long as they don't join a cult or get super pushy and try to force their beliefs on other people- I will welcome anything they want to believe. (That goes about atheism too- I have a cousin who's atheist... and he is SO pushy about it. He's as annoying as the people who are super religious and damn you to hell for not being the same.)
I wanted to add- I'm a scientist by profession. I don't understand how people say they "believe" in science. Science isn't something to believe in... science is fact. Sure there's science that hasn't been proven and you can form your own opinions on whether or not you think a theory is right or wrong... but in the end science is measurement- it's calculation, it's observation, and it's repeatable. You can choose to say you don't believe in gravity... at the end of the day.. you're still being pulled to the Earth- it doesn't make it not true.
BFP #2 3/18/19 * EDD 11/25/19* DS born 11/30/19
Kids may be different, I'm not sure yet, but it is nice to think that there is one being in the world who does love us truly unconditionally.
Did you grow up with this religion/belief? yes I did, but I grew up pentacostal and now we attend a nondenominational church which lines up with our beliefs more.
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? yes, he is an incredible man of God.
Will you raise LO with it? absolutely.
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? I'm not going to worry about that at this moment. Not because it couldn't happen, but because there's no sense in worrying about it now. I will love my children for who they are and pray that they come to know and love the Lord on their own and develop their own personal relationship with Him. I will teach them as best as I can with what God has given me, but their salvation won't come by my own strength.
Did you grow up with this religion/belief? No, though I went to Catholic school for two years but it was for academic reasons.
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? He was raised Catholic but had fallen away but returned when I entered the Church.
Will you raise LO with it? Absolutely. We attend as a family every Sunday and all of our kids have received the Sacraments as the come of age.
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? While they live with us, they will attend Mass with the family. We hope and pray that we have been setting a good example in living the Faith and they are being taught about their Faith (we homeschool) and why it's our family's belief. If they were to follow something else when they grow up, I would be upset and would be praying a lot but there's not much I could do at that point.
Did you grow up with this religion/belief? Yes, catholic school from pre-k through 12th grade. I was very active within my church's youth group in high school.
Does SO share the same beliefs as you? He was raised Catholic and attended Catholic schools as well
Will you raise LO with it? We baptized DD and will do the same with this LO but truthfully we havent started bringing her to weekly services mostly because we dont attend mass. This is something I'd like to change
What if LO wants to follow the exact opposite of you? how do you plan to parent that, if at all? I would be totally supportive in however she plans to live out her faith. I think religion provides a great moral path but I know plenty of moral people who don't believe in any religion. I just want her to be a good person
I just want to make sure I'm clear on how this works.
So, if someone calls YOU out on something you've said that that could be offensive, were mean and "reading into everything you write".
But when you call *someone else* out on something that could be offensive, that's totally fine and you get an apology?
Ill just be over hear waiting for my apology for when you insinuated that working moms don't raise their kids and people who believe in God don't subscribe to science.
@natleilynn Can you insert the skeleton waiting on a bench meme here?
BFP#3: 2/9/13 EDD 10/18/17. Team Green for Round 2!
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“Happiness can be found even in the darkest of times,
if one only remembers to turn on the light."
- Albus Dumbledore
If @jessafishy and I were afforded that same luxury when we talked to you, we probably would've just had a little debate and moved on as well. However, you obviously lack the ability to admit you were wrong.
My "beef" is that instead of trying to mesh along with the people on this board, you get defensive when called out but find it OK to call out others.
Kettle, meet pot. Pot, meet kettle.