July 2017 Moms

Med-free/Home/Birthing Center Birth Support Thread

I've seen a couple other bump months have threads like this. They aren't extremely popular, but seem to be really helpful for the ladies in them. I'm not sure how many other July mamas are planning for a med free birth, or an out of hospital birth, but I'm starting this thread to see if anyone else is doing so, and is interested in a thread to support each other, talk about our birth plans, and check in with each other. I figured we could do a check in once a month for now, weekly when we get closer to our due dates, and anything that comes up we could just put in the thread for that month. If anyone is interested and has a better idea/other ideas on how to do this, let me know! 

**DISCLAIMER** This is not in any way a judgement on women who are planning to use pain medication, be in the hospital, etc. etc. As a FTM who is trying for a med-free birth, I just think it would help me to have other moms who are also planning this to talk to. Everyone woman should be able to and deserves to birth in whatever way she wants to and is comfortable with. In fact, even if you are only thinking about going med free, but totally open to the pain medication if you need it, jump in! 

INTRODUCTION: So this thread is for any July mamas who are planning for a med free birth (aka, no epidurals, pain meds, nitrous oxide, etc. etc.), moms who are birthing out of the hospital, either at home or in a birthing center (or somewhere else if I'm missing anything), or who are thinking about going without pain meds, but who are open to getting them if they decide they need them. Did I miss anything lol? 

I thought it would be good to do a little check in, so here's the template:

Why have you chosen the birth plan that you have?

What is your birth plan, including where you will birth?

Any questions for STMs who have had this kind of birth before?

How is it going so far?

What are you doing to get ready?

Is your family/partner supportive/ have you had any naysayers?

GTKY: Are you a dog or cat person? (bonus points for photos if you have any pets) 
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Re: Med-free/Home/Birthing Center Birth Support Thread

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  • @kerils I will respond more thoroughly in a bit, but in response to your question about contractions: I had a med-free labor and delivery with my first. For me the contractions started as a tightening in my abdomen that was kind of uncomfortable. As time went on that same tightening became very strong/intense. For me the most painful part wasn't really the contractions themselves (although they get VERY strong, I was able to really relax/breathe deeply/rest between them), but the waiting to push. You have to dilate to 10 cm before you can push, but your body REALLY wants to do it even before then. So you have this massive tightening all over your abdomen to expel this baby, but you have to use all the strength you have in your body NOT to push until the time is right. To me that was the hardest part, even harder than pushing. I won't lie and say it didn't hurt-- but I will also say I plan to do it the same way this time (barring complications, of course) so it's doable! 
  • @cait32 Hey!!!  I've been wondering where you are!!  We missed you. 

    Will reply to actual thread topic topic when not on mobile - Med free last time with a doula - praying for the same this time!
  • @mamadcb - thank you for this description, it's the clearest one I've heard so far. I know it's probably hard to really get the feeling across, but this description makes a lot of sense and is somehow comforting.

    @kerils - I'm sorry that some parts of your family have been less than supportive. Grandma sounds a bit harsh :( 

    Why have you chosen the birth plan that you have?

    Probably need more time to research and decide on preferences. I’m mostly telling myself right now that I go in with a wishlist instead of a plan, I won’t be as stressed out if things change. 

    What is your birth plan, including where you will birth?

    The idea to try for a water birth at the birthing center - which I'm lucky is only 20 minutes from me, and adjacent to the labour ward. Planning on a doula. We’re also taking hypnobirthing classes. I’m big into meditation and all that airy fair stuff so it felt like a good choice.

    Any questions for STMs who have had this kind of birth before?

    Anybody else get a doula? Would you get one again? (Just caught your post @caribbeanmama - it sounds like you appreciated having one?)

    What are you doing to get ready?

    First doula interview tomorrow morning! In April we’ll start classes and visit the birthing centre. 

    Is your family/partner supportive/ have you had any naysayers?

    My family hasn’t asked, so I have no idea how they feel! DH has been super encouraging.

    Socially I’ve had the opposite of naysaying. Many people I’ve spoken to plan to go or went unmedicated, and seem to assume I’d do the same - which I found a bit weird in the early days. 

    GTKY: Are you a dog or cat person? (bonus points for photos if you have any pets)

    I absolutely love dogs, but DH has hygiene issues with them. We’re also never home to walk or care for one - so it’s a battle I’ve yet to win. I’m hoping our kid might have better luck guilting him into one ;)

  • rnw2019rnw2019 member
    edited March 2017
    I am so excited about this thread! I didn't know about sitting on your butt bones. Baby was breech at the A/S so hopefully s/he will move around before July. 

    Why have you chosen the birth plan that you have?
    I had a close friend, the only pregnant person in our friend group several years ago, who had watch The Business of Being Born and read books by Ina May Gardner. We had weekly Friday walks and she would tell me all about what she'd read and learned, and that planted the seed in my mind. When husband and I started thinking about trying, we watched TBoBB and read some of the same books, and decided that was the route we wanted to go. The practice my gynecologist was from only delivers babies at this particular hospital in town that has a >40% C/S rate, so we were definitely up for a change. 

    What is your birth plan, including where you will birth?
    We will hopefully be at the birth center with midwives and possibly a doula. The birthing suites are amazing and I love that they have a little living area where your loved ones can hang out and even make meals. They dim the lights, play your music, and have a little light machine that makes it look like there are stars on the ceiling. I plan on taking a hypnobabies course for pain management, but the birth center also offers nitrous, and I am open to it if things become too intense. There is a hospital 3 minutes away, so that makes me feel good about potential complications. 

    Any questions for STMs who have had this kind of birth before?
    Someone in an earlier thread mentioned that they'd had success with hypnobabies before, so that's good to know. Did anyone else plan to have a home/birth center birth and end up being transferred to the hospital? This happened to my SIL and I'm hoping it won't happen to me. Our family tends to have giant heads and she thinks that contributed to it. 

    How is it going so far?
    Good, I think! I feel like I just started to look pregnant a couple weeks ago, and have been feeling tons of movement, so that makes things feel a bit more real. 

    What are you doing to get ready?
    We have been buying things here and there. We will be moving overseas almost immediately after the birth, so we've been trying to be smart about buying and/or registering for everything we may need the first year, without going overboard. Just got a shipment of secondhand cloth diapers today! Other than buying things, I've been trying to stay semi-active and eat semi-healthy. We are going to a doula meet-and-green tomorrow... all the ones I've contacted so far are booked, moving, or due at the same time as me :( I need to get a birth ball. 

    Is your family/partner supportive/ have you had any naysayers?
    Everyone has been very supportive. Both MIL and my mom had natural, med-free births in hospitals and I think they are very happy with our decision. I've had a couple of friends do a bit of naysaying or be like "just you wait," but meh. 

    GTKY: Are you a dog or cat person? (bonus points for photos if you have any pets) 
    I am an every-animal person! This is weird/terrible, but sometimes I look at my dog and my heart melts and I wonder how I could ever love my human baby more than I love him. I mean, I know I will, it's just hard to imagine. But I think most animals are cute, and if there is an animal in the vicinity I want to be near it. In addition to our dog, we have two cats. One is pretty dog-like (greets us at the door, comes when he's called), and the other is pretty shy.  

    ETA pet pics... From mobile so I hope they're not too big. 



  • Hi everyone! I'm glad to see there are some other peeps around. I totally was starting to think I was the only one in July. Anywho, 

    @Cait32 I'm glad to see you're still here! I don't really care how people choose to participate, if they participate at all. I'm admittedly home and bored so I end up on here a lot, but I know that most people have jobs and lives etc. etc. I have a cat who insists on sleeping on me for hours and trapping me under her. 

    @mamadcb That's the best explanation I have heard so far. Definitely helps me to mentally prep for it. I was just talking to my friend who just had her baby (5 days ago) and I asked her about it, and she ended up with an epidural, but your description was even better. It's definitely going to be hard for me to not push. I'm already anxious to get him out (although I obviously want him to be healthy and cook as long as he has to) so I'm not seeing me being super patient. Ah well. Just another way motherhood has already humbled me. Most people are like "it's indescribable" and "you'll know it when you feel it" which does nothing for my desire to prep as much as I can. 

    @LarkSparkle  It was a bit harsh, but my grandmother is such a quiet, calm person, it almost didn't come across that way. Oh well. I don't put a ton of stock into her opinion. Different generations etc. etc. I think having other women who are going through it at the same time will do a lot to boost my confidence that I can do it. I've tried to stay pretty positive, and stay away from talks about hospitals and the need for epidurals. I'm hoping that when the time comes, everyone will just be rooting for me to get through it without the meds, not telling me that I should just get them. That's also why I want the birth center, and why my DH being supportive is so important. He won't ask/push me to get them, and it's not even an option at my place so they won't either :). Good luck with the doula interview! I'm also surprised that most people you have talked to have went unmedicated. I haven't met anyone in real life that did it without. And most people say "get the drugs!". 




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    Engaged: July 1st, 2014
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  • LarkSparkleLarkSparkle member
    edited March 2017

    @kerils I wanted to add that I was super excited to see this thread. I've been wanting to participate more, but have been waiting for a conversation topic that resonated. It's nice to be able to chat about this, and to hear what you're all planning/going through.

    I hear you on different generations, and of course the naysayers probably aren't intentionally trying to psych you out. It's just annoying how even these small little comments or implications about what we 'should' be doing can get into our heads.

    I realised after posting that the people I've been talking to are from pregnancy yoga - so their tendency towards unmedicated birth could be a demographic thing. Also, I'm in the UK now and I’ve realised that epidurals are slightly less common here (guessing because of costs to public health care system.) I'm from the US and kindof assumed I could get one if I really wanted it and the timing was still OK. Needs research I guess. I imagine it’s more challenging, socially, if you don’t have other people to talk to around you who have made similar choices. But on that note, hurray again for this thread!

    @rjoys8 How far are you? I'm at 26 and the midwife told me yesterday that they're still small and have plenty of space to move around, and still change position often. Here’s hoping your baby finds a nice downward position to hang out in soon :) 

    (Edited for over-use of emojis)

  • @LarkSparkle Omg right into my head. That's why I wanted something like this, so I have other women who are doing the same thing, and more or less rooting for me to make it through without the epi (sorry if that's overly presumptuous). I'm going to do a mother blessing in June, and I'm hoping that everyone will be very supportive of my med-free birth, and I'll feel like I have a support system behind me when I go into labor and things get super real. 

    @rjoys8 My baby was breech at the 20 week AS too, but I don't think they even do turn down that early. They're still pretty tiny. Judging by the kicks today, it actually seems like baby might be head down. I'm getting what feels like kicks almost in my ribs, and then punches/head butts on my cervix. But I think they can wiggle around for quite awhile. FX that both of our babies get into a good birthing position! I am worried about the sunny side up thing thanks to my anterior placenta, which might have moved too since they didn't say anything about it at my AS. They told me about it at the 13 week scan (NT). I got a regular exercise ball (anti pop) for less than $20 at Target and I love it. You just have to make sure it's blown up to the right height (and is the right height for you in the first place, there is a chart on the back) otherwise it isn't comfy, and isn't effective. Also, OMG your pets are adorable. FFFC, I just did that GTKY so I could share a cute kitty pic, and because I'm kind of down today and seeing other adorable pets makes me feel better. 
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  • edited March 2017
    Why have you chosen the birth plan that you have? Seemed like the best choice for DH and I.

    What is your birth plan, including where you will birth? We plan to give birth through Froedert Hospital at Children's Hospital. My current OB will be the one who delivers my baby (unless I go in early or later than expected and she is unavailable). I hope to do a vaginal birth instead of c-section and as of now, there's no reasons as to why I shouldn't be able to. *Note: I am NOT against c-section. I just prefer vaginal for me. I know everyone is different*  I plan on getting an epidural but as far as any other meds, that will be decided at the time (depending on if I need them).  The only person in the room (other than the necessary medical staff) will be my DH.

    Any questions for STMs who have had this kind of birth before? Not right now.

    How is it going so far? Pretty good. Can't complain (much).

    What are you doing to get ready? Not too much. Started on the nursery already but that's about it.

    Is your family/partner supportive/ have you had any naysayers? DH is supportive and so are my parents. I haven't talked much with DH's side of the family or my extended family about our plan so they haven't really had the option to be a naysayer.

    GTKY: Are you a dog or cat person? (bonus points for photos if you have any pets) I am a pet person lol but DH and I have cats. We want a dog when we get a house.
    Me:35 | DH: 32
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    Restarted TTC "count" Oct. 2016
         due to previous issues.
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  • @kerils  - your kitty looks a lot like 1 of mine :)


    Me:35 | DH: 32
    Married: 06-2024
    TTC #1: Since November 2015
    Restarted TTC "count" Oct. 2016
         due to previous issues.
    ***TW***
    BFP: 11/4/2016 
    BFP: 07/17/2024
  • @SaphireSweetie88 Omg, they do look similar. I never used to have much of a preference, but now that I have a tuxedo cat, they are obviously the cutest. 
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    R born: July 8th, 2017
    N born: June 30th, 2019
    Baby #3 Due: July 7th, 2022
    (maybe I only ovulate in October XD)
  • @kerils  - Lol yes they are! Mine is a bed hog too haha
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    Married: 06-2024
    TTC #1: Since November 2015
    Restarted TTC "count" Oct. 2016
         due to previous issues.
    ***TW***
    BFP: 11/4/2016 
    BFP: 07/17/2024
  • tuxielove93tuxielove93 member
    edited March 2017
    @SaphireSweetie88 Omg, she's an everything hog, including my DH who is completely in love with her. If I'm sitting with the laptop in my lap and she wants to cuddle, she'll push the laptop out of the way. And then lay on me for hours, and she's so cute I feel bad moving her, so I just sit there stuck under her. I figure it's good practice for nursing/sleeping baby. And everything in the house gets marked as hers. Cell phones, laptops, boxes, doesn't matter, she marks it. 
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    N born: June 30th, 2019
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    (maybe I only ovulate in October XD)
  • @kerils - Haha same with mine. He hates it when I come to bed because he has to move then lol
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    Married: 06-2024
    TTC #1: Since November 2015
    Restarted TTC "count" Oct. 2016
         due to previous issues.
    ***TW***
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    BFP: 07/17/2024
  • @kerils A quick note before heading to sleep to say you're not being presumptuous - thanks for responding and chatting!

    I'm so scared to put "no epidural" on my list, because I've never given birth and have no frame of reference for how it feels physically or how I'll react.

    At the same time I really would like to try without. I'm super freaked out by the idea of not feeling my bottom half, or not knowing when / how hard to push. I'd also like to be able to move around.

    I guess I'm going in with the wish for as few interventions as possible, while also hearing the wise advice from moms who've been there to stay flexible and not get stuck on a certain vision - that we can end up really down on ourselves that way if things don't go as planned.

    Like you I guess I'm just doing what I can to build a supportive environment. After that I hope it will be about staying in the zone, not panicking, and believing all things are possible! :)
  • @Cait32  - No you're right lol. I wasn't really paying attention to the type of thread. Sorry
    Me:35 | DH: 32
    Married: 06-2024
    TTC #1: Since November 2015
    Restarted TTC "count" Oct. 2016
         due to previous issues.
    ***TW***
    BFP: 11/4/2016 
    BFP: 07/17/2024
  • @Cait32 Definitely mostly focused on epidural/other pain med free births and/or out of hospital/alternative (think water) births, but lots of women have births like this in hospital, and I'm sure could use the support too. 
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    N born: June 30th, 2019
    Baby #3 Due: July 7th, 2022
    (maybe I only ovulate in October XD)
  • @Cait32 I get it :) Also, holy lord that chiropractic care difference. I am going to look into that more, cause if I can go to a chiro and end up with a much shorter and faster labor, I am all for it. 
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    Started dating: July 1st, 2013
    Engaged: July 1st, 2014
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    R born: July 8th, 2017
    N born: June 30th, 2019
    Baby #3 Due: July 7th, 2022
    (maybe I only ovulate in October XD)
  • @Cait32 That's really interesting about the chiropractor! I've been seeing one since about 20 weeks, and wondering if its worth it to continue now that I'm not having hip trouble. She's on vacation next week so I was going to use that as a test, but she does do the whole Webster method thing too, and seems to cut down on my RLP, so maybe $50/week isn't so bad for a potentially shorter labor!
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  • @Cait32 My midwives will do a turn themselves, but I'm keeping chiros on my radar for if the baby is breech too. I hear it's super uncomfortable to turn them, but obviously less than a c-section. I guess they figure out if they're breech by feeling the baby? I'm gonna have to ask next month how they know. 
    Hubby and Me
    Friends since 2008
    Started dating: July 1st, 2013
    Engaged: July 1st, 2014
    Married: July 1st, 2016
    R born: July 8th, 2017
    N born: June 30th, 2019
    Baby #3 Due: July 7th, 2022
    (maybe I only ovulate in October XD)
  • @kerils same with our snuggly cat... It's just assumed that if either husband or I need something like a glass of water or whatever, the person who has to go get it is the one without the cat on them. Also both @SaphireSweetie88 and your tuxedo cats are adorable!! 

    @LarkSparkle and @kerils I'm almost 24 weeks, so that makes sense that they'll still change position a lot! I was a little surprised when the ultrasound tech used the term breech, I had thought they only used that word about the position going into labor? Guess not. I have a hard time visualizing baby's position based on the kicks I'm feeling. I've mostly been feeling them really low in my pelvis, and a couple inches below my belly button on either side. Nothing above my belly button or even close to it... I also have an anterior placenta so maybe that's part of it. I'm sure our LOs will figure it out the best position at some point in the next few months :) 
    I'll have to go get one of those yoga balls at Target this weekend! Also I am pasting another adorable pup below to cheer you up (she belongs to a friend, but I go check on her at lunchtime while my friend is at work ... She was found in a dumpster but has an awesome life now). I hope the rest of the weekend is better! 

    @Cait32 my state also has a lot of laws about birth center births, so we're in the same position with BP, breech, etc.

    Dumb question: what is a chiropractor appointment like? I've never been to one but have had several recommendations to see one during pregnancy... I know they "adjust" things, but what does that actually look like? 


  • @rjoys8 I assume it depends what you go for, but I initially went because I was having awful pain in my hips and RLP, which I was convinced was SPD. The chiro determined that my main problem was a tilted sacrum. I also had a couple other problem spots in my spine not moving as they should I guess.
    So for the spine she taps different spots with this activator tool while I lay on my stomach. It's pretty much a light quick tap, not even as hard as the reflex thing your doctor would do on your knees.
    For my RLP, I suppose she's starting the Webster thing, its more like a massage - she said she's stretching the ligament. I'm laying on the back for that part.

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  • LOVE this thread! I really did want to go med free, but I don't think I have what it takes, so I've changed my mind and will probably be choosing epidural. I really do wish I had the will power but I don't think I do. I will still keep checking on this thread because I'm really excited for you guys and would love to know how your going about this. Many may discourage you, some of you may want to give in like me(please don't!) and I just wanted to say despite being "out" I am definitely cheering you guys on!  Good luck with everything, hoping it all goes smoothly for all of us and yes, I truly admire you guys. 
  • @GlitterFish thank you! SPD sounds miserable, so I'm glad you didn't end up having that! I've just started having some back pain so maybe it's time to go see a chiro...  
  • MrsZenoMrsZeno member
    edited March 2017
    @Cait32 and @kerils I have seen a chiropractor for all of my pregnancies because I have lower back and sciatica pain. I typically go once a week while I'm pregnant unless we're out of town. Both of my deliveries so far have been extremely short and easy. My labor with my 2nd was less than 3 hours. I didnt have med free births but my chiropractor has always told me the squatting position is the best and most natural. 
    Hope that helps!  :)
  • @busyzee I'm not sure who has deterred you from even trying :( but please know that it is okay to prepare to try and opt out whenever you decide during labor (there is of course a point of no return but that is pretty far in).  Have you read Ina May's guide to childbirth?  Along with the womanly art of breastfeeding?  (They are both excellent and informative resources - though you should read Ina May's with a grain of salt.). There is another book on having a natural med-free birth in the hospital, which I found extremely helpful as well.   I will go look for the title.

    @LarkSparkle a doula was the only way I made it through with my first.  They are so knowledgeable about the birth process!  It is important to interview and do your research and choose a good one!



  • Don't mind me, I am just here for the pictures of the pets ❤️
  • For those asking about Chiro -- I love it.  I have a clinic that I have gone to for years and my bff is a chiro in another state.  They sometimes use the activator tool that someone posted above, and sometimes push, pull, or twist a joint to adjust; I'm betting you could find videos on youtube.  It's a little awkward, but it doesn't really hurt.  I've found that regular chiro visits help keep me overall healthy (like, I get one cold a year even though I work with small, germy kiddos).  It also has helped with allergies and headaches, and my last sprained ankle healed in half the time.  I fully believe that it will help with a smoother labor.  My doc has me on a schedule similar to my other ob visits (monthly until 28 wks, then bi-weekly until 34wks, then weekly or twice a week until birth), but keep in mind that I've been going for awhile so my stuff was already fairly well lined up.


    Why have you chosen the birth plan that you have?
    My family has always used a mix of "traditional" and eastern medicine.  My dad was sick for years when I was younger, and it was the non-traditional docs that finally figured out what was going on.  As I said above, I love chiro and have found it to be helpful in avoiding and getting over maladies that traditional docs would prescribe meds about.  My family also has weird reactions to some meds (not quite allergies, they just don't work on us the way they do everyone else).  Plus, the thought of being numb or out-of-it, and bed-ridden, is anxiety provoking and I don't want my kids coming into the world in a haze.

    What is your birth plan, including where you will birth?
    Still working on details.  We will be delivering in a hospital with an ob.  The local birth centers aren't covered by my insurance and consider me to be too high risk for various reasons (age, things related to my pgal-status, etc).  My doc is technically a DO and the practice is supportive of different birth plans, so long as they jive with your risk levels (they work with a lot of pgal, high-risk, and infertility cases).  I know that we will aim for delayed cord clamping, rooming-in, golden-hour skin-to-skin, quick breastfeeding, and delayed bathing.  I want to be able to walk around, labor in the water if it feels right, and push in whatever position works.  And I want to avoid pitocin, vacuums/forceps, or an episiotomy.

    Any questions for STMs who have had this kind of birth before?
    Not quite birth-related, but I feel like this is the same audience: Placenta encapsulation -- not sure how I feel about this.  Anyone have thoughts?

    How is it going so far?
    Pgal brain has sucked.  But it's been an easy pregnancy.

    What are you doing to get ready?
    I've skimmed through the Bradley book and just ordered the Ina May and Art of Breastfeeding books.  We are registered for Hypnobabies starting in about a month and I plan to find a breastfeeding class/group.  Plus visits to my chiropractor and generally trying to eat healthy and exercise.

    Is your family/partner supportive/ have you had any naysayers?
    DH is very good about letting me direct how these things will go.  He's anxious about laboring/birth in general, so I think that the classes will be helpful for him learning what to expect.  If I have done the research and written out the plan he will be a good advocate for making sure it goes through and keeping me motivated.  My family is about 75% supportive (ie, "that sounds good; but I'm glad you will be in the hospital in case you change your mind...")  Some friends are 100% supportive and some think I'm 100% crazy for doing this without meds!

    GTKY: Are you a dog or cat person? (bonus points for photos if you have any pets)
    I'm both.  We have two cats b/c our schedules have been too irregular to manage a dog.  The older cat is an 11yo fat orange boy who is in love with my belly.  The younger one is about 2yo and tiny in comparison, lean and muscular, and white with brown/black spots and ears/tail.  He's scared of the belly after baby kicked him one day, but constantly at my feet.  We also joke that he's part-dog because he will come when called, plays fetch, and mews when anyone comes to the door.
  • Why have you chosen the birth plan that you have?  I'm trying for a med-free hospital birth.  This is baby #3, and our last.  I had my others in the same hospital, and am sort of considered high-risk I have kidney disease) which is why I don't feel comfortable delivering anywhere but a hospital.  
     I was induced with my first at 39 weeks and ended up with a c/s--in my opinion due to the cascade of interventions, including epidural.  
    My water broke with my second, and I received an epidural.  The epidural barely work for each delivery, and I'd really like to try without it this time. 
    What is your birth plan, including where you will birth?
    To have a med-free hospital birth.  I want little to no interventions.  
    Any questions for STMs who have had this kind of birth before?
    No questions, really.  I'm just trying to prepare. 
    How is it going so far?
    I can't complain at this point.  I feel pretty great. 

    What are you doing to get ready?
    im doing research, and looking into a few classes by a local doula. 

    Is your family/partner supportive/ have you had any naysayers?
    DH is hot and cold about the subject.  I'm trying to get him on board by showing him articles, listening to birth stories (that I find helpful), etc.  I dont want him telling me in the background that it's okay to get an epidural, because I feel like if I hear that, I will give it.  Obviously I know it's okay to get one--I had two!  But, they both only barely worked, even when they kept using bolus on me.  I don't really have any other support, and I really wish I could hire a doula.  But, we don't really have the extra $$ at this point.  
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    I prefer cats, because they're less maintenance.  We have two dogs and a cat.  
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  • Why have you chosen the birth plan that you have? My SIL had horrible migraines and side effects from her first when she got the epidural. When she had her 2nd she had her so quickly there was enough time to get one, and she did it med free. She told me 1000 times to try to do it that way if I could. I was due 6 months after her with my first and it just stuck with me. I did use nitrous oxide with DD, but I was up walking around an hour after giving birth and felt like my recovery was really fast. This time since I know what to expect and feel like I have a better grasp of the pain and how to handle it, I want to try without the nitrous oxide and go completely med free. 

    What is your birth plan, including where you will birth? I don't ever really have a birth plan. My plan is to have a baby. There are things I'd like to do different this time I plan on focusing on my breathing, bringing earbuds so I can listen to music and keeping the room dim and quiet. I'll give birth in the hospital with my OB, but my hospital is VERY med-free friendly and I felt no pressure last time from them at all. 

    Any questions for STMs who have had this kind of birth before?

    How is it going so far? Good, so far no concerns. At my AS they mentioned she's breech so hoping she flips and there are no issues with that. I still have plenty of time...

    What are you doing to get ready? I feel like nothing compared to last time. I worked out, did prenatal yoga, went to the chiro etc with DD, now chasing a toddler and working full time etc I have no time. But I do plan on starting yoga again. That helped me focus on my breathing and stretch for labor so I definitely want to get on that again. 

    Is your family/partner supportive/ have you had any naysayers? H is super supportive. With DD, I told him to not let me get an epidural and when I told him I wanted an epidural that I couldn't take it anymore, he encouraged me through it! So I am super lucky to have him. This time though he might not be there for the birth so I'm hoping I'm strong enough to do it on my own! My mom and sister will be in the room, and while supportive, if I told them I wanted it they would probably let me. But I feel like I have a much better handle on it this time and am a lot more confident in myself.

    GTKY: Are you a dog or cat person? (bonus points for photos if you have any pets) Dog, but I love all animals. No photos cause my phone got reset and I lost all pictures :( 
  • @caribbeanmama I was very passionate about it, but evaluating my own personality, Talking to those similar to me, hearing their experiences etc i know I don't have that kind of mentality and I'd probably be more mentally traumatized then be happy.. I don't think I can blame anyone but myself :) thankyou for the book recommendations!! Il def give them a try.
  • @optbaby2017 As far as avoiding episiotomy, my midwife gave me a whole sheet on perineal massage and said I can start as soon as I want. The more you prep the perineum for stretching, the less likely it will tear, and hopefully avoid them cutting as well. As far as placental encapsulation goes, from what I've read, there really isn't a benefit, but there isn't a harm either. I personally am not doing it because of the lack of benefit. 


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  • @kerils I would describe contractions as period cramps x1000.  At least, that's how it felt for me but I imagine that it can depend a lot on position of the baby, the placenta, your body composition, etc.  I went 12 hours last time and then got the epi so I wasn't med-free by the time I was pushing.  I didn't have a great epi experience but most people I talk to LOVE theirs and are able to sleep a bit until they push.

    I highly recommend a doula for anyone going for a med-free birth.  That is my biggest regret from last time- not having one.

    I'll be having a hospital birth with a midwife and doula this time and I'm hoping to go med-free this time or use nitrous oxide (I've read mixed reviews on here but I think I'm going to give it a try).  My midwife has a great relationship with the OB's at the hospital and sends me for consults.  I have a lot of confidence that she would call an OB into the room if necessary so I'm really comfortable with this plan.
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  • At our prenatal class yesterday the doula spent a lot of time talking about how fear can interfere with labour. She compared it to a cat giving birth in a cave: even during labour if a bear were to come in the cave, adrenaline would take over and enable her to escape to a safer place to have her litter, and once there she would calm down, adrenaline would drop and she'd go back into labour again. We spent a while talking about identifying what our "bears" would be ahead of time and being as prepared as possible. 

    A few of her examples were if you're afraid of needles, then as soon as someone wheels an IV into your room, that's your bear. But if you know ahead of time that it might be coming, you won't necessarily be as afraid of it vs it being unexpected. She also talked about some people's "bear" being unprepared and not having their hospital bag, but that in the end, baby will still come, baby will still be fine, and everything else is just details. 

    We also talked a bit about people who have had extremely quick deliveries and ended up with an unplanned home birth. Specifically to call people to you instead of trying to get somewhere else if it's progressed that far and what I found most interesting was that she said not to cut the cord. She was at a birth where the paramedics were delayed and even though she's been attending births for 20 years, she didn't feel comfortable cutting the cord so baby just stayed attached to the delivered placenta for 25 mins until the paramedics actually arrived. 

    I haven't made a final decision yet where I stand on the idea of meds, but hearing all of this stuff gave me more confidence in at least trying to go med-free for as long as possible, and to strongly consider having the gas instead of epidural if I do decide I need something. 
  • Why have you chosen the birth plan that you have? I would like a quick recovery, the thought of an epidural scares me. I’ve also heard that they are not always effective, so I would rather prepare for med-free.

    What is your birth plan, including where you will birth? In a perfect world, I would like to have a pain-med free birth at a hospital. As a FTM, I would be more comfortable with doctors around in the event something goes wrong.

    Any questions for STMs who have had this kind of birth before? I would love to hear your experiences. How did you prepare, and were you able to handle the pain?

    How is it going so far? So far, so good. Baby is very wiggly and healthy. I’ve been lucky enough to have a complication-free pregnancy. Some days I feel very confident in my decision to try med-free, but other days I get a little anxious.

    What are you doing to get ready? Hubby and I will take a labor and delivery class at the hospital, and I also plan to take a hypo birth course online. I believe it’s five sessions long. I will also be starting some maternity yoga courses, which I am really excited for!

    Is your family/partner supportive/ have you had any naysayers? Most are supportive. Hubby says to do what I feel comfortable with. Not a whole lot of people have asked though. I think my doctor thinks I’m crazy.

    GTKY: Are you a dog or cat person? (bonus points for photos if you have any pets) Totally a crazy cat lady! Love my kitty, who I worry will be a bit jealous of baby.


  • Why have you chosen the birth plan that you have? Mainly because I did last time. I was on the fence and it happened due to lack of time. I hoped for it because I wanted freedom to move and didn't want to be numb and have a catheter and a needle in my spine. Also I really liked the sentiment of knowing what it really feels like. I can tolerate a lot of pain and I had an easy birth so it worked out for me. 

    What is your birth plan, including where you will birth? Same hospital, try to stay home as much as possible but not to the point of no return. I don't want a surprise home birth. Hopefully less hysteria in the delivery room. The nurses were so obnoxious and yelling numbers at me and the doctor was poking me. They were all so annoying. I told my new obgyn that I'd like it to be more calm. 

    Any questions for STMs who have had this kind of birth before? STM here. Ask away 

    How is it going so far? First trimester was harder. But ok now. I think this baby is bigger. 

    What are you doing to get ready? Nothing but praying. I'm not religious just saying I hope things go well but mentally I know anything can happen. If I need to take the edge off I am not too proud to ask. If it's a CS, then it is what it is. 

    Is your family/partner supportive/ have you had any naysayers? Last time everyone said that I should not be a martyr and the epidural is amazing. My mom had it both ways and knew the difference and said it was wonderful with the epidural and horrible without. She didn't try to convince me but it was interesting to see a real comparison. 

    GTKY: Are you a dog or cat person? (bonus points for photos if you have any pets) I have a cat but animals are not a big thing for me tbh. 
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  • @kerils what is labor really like? For me it felt like someone was tightening a belt really slowly, holding and slowly releasing. I imagined climbing a small hill. It started so faintly I was not sure. It was every half hour for a few seconds. I had a notepad where I wrote the start time. During the day it was becoming every 20 minutes, then 15.... You get the point. They call this closer, longer, stronger. That's true. Once it hit every 5 minutes it became increasingly more challenging, and there's new pressure in your back and a need to squat. The last few hours I had scream to deal with the pain. That's OK. If you find yourself squatting and trying to pee or poop you're actually pushing. It's amazing how instinctive this is. Then at each contraction you push for thirty seconds and you just want to do it. Crowning burns but it passes. 
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  • This is slightly delayed but wanted to say 
    I'm sorry about your tilted pelvis, I have the same issue and it can be so painful!
    Not entirely sure about the difference between a chiropractor, physiotherapist and osteopath... but I went to an osteopath for back/pelvis pain and it was amazing.

    In terms of what they actually did: I had to strip down to my undies while they observed me making certain movements, and put me into positions and asked about the pain. After this screening they did treatments, like: yanking my leg, or massaging the hip while bending my arm and lower back.

    All I can say is it worked!! The pain was almost instantly better after I started seeing them. 
  • Why have you chosen the birth plan that you have?
       This will be my third child. With my first two, water broke, I was given pitocin and delivered without pain meds. I want to do that again, although skipping the pitocin would be great. Before my first, I was sure I'd have an epidural, but after my birth class, I learned it could slow things down and the thought of a needle in my back was scary! I may try nitrous oxide this time if transition is terrible, but I don't want anything else. 

    What is your birth plan, including where you will birth?
         I'm doing a hospital delivery. Assuming my water breaks ahead of time, I'm expecting pitocin, like the first two. I want to be able to move around, use birth ball, take showers, etc. Hoping for intermittent monitoring and no IV if I can get away with it. I won't do an epidural, but might do nitrous oxide; I plan to delay cord cutting, do skin-to-skin, and nurse right away. Other than that, pretty standard "natural" hospital birth.

    Any questions for STMs who have had this kind of birth before?
         Nope, I'm one of those moms!

    How is it going so far?
        Well, my OB practice is great, they have midwives, and I think my hospital is pretty open to listening to mom. Otherwise, not much happening other than growing this baby.

    What are you doing to get ready?
          Nothing yet. When I get close, I'll take EPO and I'm going to try eating dates this time around. I read a study - actual medical study - that indicated it helped with labor.

    Is your family/partner supportive/ have you had any naysayers?
         My husband is very supportive. He kind of goes drill-sergeant in the delivery room, which works for me. I don't want to be touched or coddled ;-)

    GTKY: Are you a dog or cat person? (bonus points for photos if you have any pets) 
       
     I like dogs, but I'm allergic :-)
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