here are mine: 1. I'm very critical towards the promotion of "natural"/"unmediated"/"MD-free" birth. I realize women have been giving birth for millennia without modern medicine but it's not working for me as an argument. There's so many things that could potentially go wrong. If any IRL friend said she wants to give birth anywhere that's not a well established hospital equipped with a neonatal ICU, I'd do everything to talk her out of it.
Ooh girl you hit a nerve. The anti-depressants, pro-"natural" advocates drive me nuts. Especially when they rail against modern medicine like it's some sort of evil institution aimed at taking away a woman's power during the birthing process, or whatever.
Just because something is "natural" does not make it inherently safe. To impose this idea on laboring mothers is irresponsible and ridiculous. Childbirth is inherently dangerous. Yes, there are plenty of low risk pregnancies that deliver with ease and without complication, but childbirth was once the #1 cause of death among women, back before evil modern medicine swooped in and started saving the lives of countless women and their babies. How dare they.
And the argument that pain during labor is "good pain," "natural," or, even better "not actually pain" makes me want to claw my eyes out. Pain is pain, period. People who are dying are in pain, and dying is natural. Should we encourage them to go med-free too, since it's part of life?
I could go on and on. If you want a med free birth, go for it. That's your right. don't you dare try to tell me what kind of birth I should have. That is not your right.
Also, I have a friend who blames her c-section on her child's disability, and wants to have her next child at home with no drugs. Every day I try to talk sense into her, especially considering vbacs can be super dangerous.
I seriously feel like I missed something here. I just put the pieces together after reading the HDBD posts but is side boob really all that was showing? They already took down the photo.
i mean, I'm all for boudoir and nudes and everything but has that person really interacted with the group before that pic? when someone posts a topless hdbd pic as an intro I'm not bothered by the nudity so much as I'm wondering in what forum is this the norm, and is she maybe lost?
Ok I think @satsumasandlemons put it much better than I did. Did the side boob bother me..no. Did I find it weird especially from a poster that I can't remember ever posting before, oh yes, and it was tacky and frankly bizarre.
I think I just get defensive when women are called out for showing their bodies especially when it's within limits and rules. I would absolutely never post a picture like that but I don't want women to be scared to do so and I feel like it bleeds over into other situations like public breastfeeding and oversexulaizing women - and I know that's a slippery slope argument!
here are mine: 1. I'm very critical towards the promotion of "natural"/"unmediated"/"MD-free" birth. I realize women have been giving birth for millennia without modern medicine but it's not working for me as an argument. There's so many things that could potentially go wrong. If any IRL friend said she wants to give birth anywhere that's not a well established hospital equipped with a neonatal ICU, I'd do everything to talk her out of it.
Ooh girl you hit a nerve. The anti-depressants, pro-"natural" advocates drive me nuts. Especially when they rail against modern medicine like it's some sort of evil institution aimed at taking away a woman's power during the birthing process, or whatever.
Just because something is "natural" does not make it inherently safe. To impose this idea on laboring mothers is irresponsible and ridiculous. Childbirth is inherently dangerous. Yes, there are plenty of low risk pregnancies that deliver with ease and without complication, but childbirth was once the #1 cause of death among women, back before evil modern medicine swooped in and started saving the lives of countless women and their babies. How dare they.
And the argument that pain during labor is "good pain," "natural," or, even better "not actually pain" makes me want to claw my eyes out. Pain is pain, period. People who are dying are in pain, and dying is natural. Should we encourage them to go med-free too, since it's part of life?
I could go on and on. If you want a med free birth, go for it. That's your right. don't you dare try to tell me what kind of birth I should have. That is not your right.
Also, I have a friend who blames her c-section on her child's disability, and wants to have her next child at home with no drugs. Every day I try to talk sense into her, especially considering vbacs can be super dangerous.
I love every single word you said!!! Couldn't agree more. I kind of view it as advanced cancer care. What I mean is, why not take advantage of modern medicine technology that can save lives?? Would we shame the cancer patient because they chose an 'unnatural' way to be treated?? Hell no! That's why it's there. I personally think the whole unmedicicated birth is all about bragging rights. I know two people and it's ALL they talk about. Good for you, but I honeslty do not care what you did! I only care about what I'm going to do. You aren't better than me, or anyone else because you didn't take advantage of modern medicine. LOL. Also, having a child at my house is my BIGGEST pregnancy fear.
ETA: yes I know cancer care and pregnancy are not the same, just trying to explain how I view advances in medicine!!
Guys, I didn't sleep last night. I don't have the energy to go buckwild about my thoughts on birth, "natural" birth, home-birth, the idea of superiority of a med-free birth, or the superiority of ANY birth for that matter. God, I'm itching to let it rip but..my poor thumbs might fall off.
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Guys, I didn't sleep last night. I don't have the energy to go buckwild about my thoughts on birth, "natural" birth, home-birth, the idea of superiority of a med-free birth, or the superiority of ANY birth for that matter. God, I'm itching to let it rip but..my poor thumbs might fall off.
I hope you get an energy burst later because I always enjoy reading your thoughts! Sorry you didn't sleep last night! My DH woke me up at 5am to announce(?) he felt horrible and we are out of Mucinex dm....um okay?! Man cold is in full force in my house. Help me.
@ashaw512 I don't want to quote your photo, but I think I would also wear sassy pants if they came in my size! Alas, I must make due with LLR.
They might! Check out www.shopsewsassy.com they have mamma ruffles. Right now they only have Jade I've never bought any but I do have MJ mamma ruffles. And I love them, I don't wear them in public but j wear them at home.
So after reading this thread I have another UO... I am more afraid of getting an epidural than the pain of childbirth. I know I'm the minority but I had my first baby unmedicated and I hope to do it again if possible. It was very painful and I screamed a lot but it wasn't the worst pain and it really did feel like a natural pain. It wasn't like an injury or a medical procedure. It was just pressure. Crowning did burn a little but it wasn't that bad. I was happy to experience the raw process. It's not for everyone, but I prefer it.
@ashaw512 I don't want to quote your photo, but I think I would also wear sassy pants if they came in my size! Alas, I must make due with LLR.
They might! Check out www.shopsewsassy.com they have mamma ruffles. Right now they only have Jade I've never bought any but I do have MJ mamma ruffles. And I love them, I don't wear them in public but j wear them at home.
I also chose that pic since her face was covered.
They post them on zulily every once in a while. #enabler
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I think it's silly to pay a buttload of money just to possibly find out if baby is boy or girl early. If your insurance pays for tests, that's awesome. But I can't drop all that money for a few weeks early to know. I would rather spend it on diapers.
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The gender disappointment drama was especially heated because we have and have had a few beloved regs waiting for life and death or very serious medical news regarding their babies. It was selfish and insensitive for a few posters to bemoan gender disappointment on a near daily basis and expect sympathy from anyone in June.
@swanbrooner, I read through some of those discussions and I have to say that one lady who finally got her princess was pretty unbearable - and I'm lucky in that we don't face any issues or problems.
I seriously feel like I missed something here. I just put the pieces together after reading the HDBD posts but is side boob really all that was showing? They already took down the photo.
I think the photo is still there
Stupid mobile app didn't load it. That's why I missed it. Yeah. I see the aggravation now. Topless (even though you can't see anything really) is pretty dumb. She even has her face in there...
Not to beat a dead horse but I also started to get a bit uncomfortable in that 'intuition' thread when it became about sex disappointment. I can understand I guess why people would have those feelings but can't find it in me to either sympathize or to call anyone out on it. But I would personally prefer not to hear about it. Maybe a therapist or something if it's deep rooted? But not on a community like this where so many of us have struggled.
Also I'm in camp unmedicated birth. I would never give birth outside of a hospital and I'm thankful I have the option to go unmedicated with plenty of men in white coats around. But I do think it lowers the chance of complications. I would never judge another momma or tell her how to birth but if I get the chance to have a vaginal birth this time then it's going to be unmedicated.
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I love modern medicine. It saved my life and my baby's life. I would have been one of those ladies who died in childbirth.
I am so over the ridiculous argument that somehow things done "long ago" were nostalgically all wonderful and better for you. "In the good ol'days" nobody had any cancer or ADHD or depression. Bull. All bull. We are f-ing lucky to live in the time we do today and to be surrounded by hospitals and modern medicine that can save our lives when needed. We are now more EDUCATED and can identify depression or ADHD when we see it. People no longer believe a demon possessed those people or they've been cursed or all the other rampant nonsense people used to believe. I will never feel guilty for having c-sections. Those c-sections saved my life and made it possible for me to be a mom. Yes, they have some downsides, but being alive and having a healthy alive child is worth every single stupid side effect. I eat organic and buy organic/chemical-free lotions and soaps and all that jazz, but I also vaccinate my kids and take medicine when needed. There is a happy medium, and I am so sick of the argument that it's all or nothing (not that I think anybody was arguing that, I'm just ranting at this point lol)
Sorry for my rant! If you read till the end, you get a cookie
Not to beat a dead horse but I also started to get a bit uncomfortable in that 'intuition' thread when it became about sex disappointment. I can understand I guess why people would have those feelings but can't find it in me to either sympathize or to call anyone out on it. But I would personally prefer not to hear about it. Maybe a therapist or something if it's deep rooted? But not on a community like this where so many of us have struggled.
Also I'm in camp unmedicated birth. I would never give birth outside of a hospital and I'm thankful I have the option to go unmedicated with plenty of men in white coats around. But I do think it lowers the chance of complications. I would never judge another momma or tell her how to birth but if I get the chance to have a vaginal birth this time then it's going to be unmedicated.
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This!
I seriously don't get it and am already so annoyed with people's comments about us having a boy since we already have a girl! I just want another baby. Period.
Also, I had an unmedicated birth with my first, but didn't do it to be a hero or rub it in anyone's face. There were times in labor I told my husband I couldn't do it and I wanted one. I just didn't want to deal with side effects of an epidural after watching my SILs recovery. My recovery was great, dare I say easy, and I will definitely be going that route again if at all possible.
I eat organic and buy organic/chemical-free lotions and soaps and all that jazz, but I also vaccinate my kids and take medicine when needed. There is a happy medium, and I am so sick of the argument that it's all or nothing (not that I think anybody was arguing that, I'm just ranting at this point lol)
Love this! I am the same.
Although my Mom does tell me I don't have to go "crazy" about my choice to be chemical-free with baby. I'm like, "Uh, yeah, I do!" But I would never impose that on other people. To each their own! It's damn expensive to be organic, chemical free and cruelty (yes, I'm that too) free! She rolled her eyes at me when I told her I was thinking about going vegetarian. (I have since decided against it. I like meat and cheese waaaayyyy too much. But I live in the country so I think being able to get more humanely raised and slaughtered meat is certainly possibly.)
Disclaimer: I am those things to the best of my ability. My home/life isn't 100% any of these things. Maybe one day, but I try and that's all that matters ... to me
Sex disappointment is the gift that keeps on giving on every single BMB.
It's normal to have a preference, because sometimes you can't help it.
It's normal to be rubbed the wrong way by people who have a preference when you just want a damn baby.
Even people who have had previous losses or struggled to get here may have a preference for reasons they can't explain.
In the end, things get heated, people agree to disagree, and it dies off after this 12-20 week period of finding out the sex.
(as in all generalized cases there are people that take it too far past just a general preference and are genuinely upset...I've seen people go to therapy for it which I think is a wonderful idea)
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@supermom83 Oooooh, can I get peanut butter chocolate chip??!?!
But seriously - you hit the nail on the head. I think what a lot of people forget is that there is a middle ground - this isn't all or nothing. While I consider myself a slightly "crunchy" person, you better believe this LO will be born in a hospital. And while I'd LOVE to have an un-medicated (hospital) birth, if the safest thing for me and my baby is determined to be a cs, then so be it! Heck, DH was 10 pounds and breech, so who the heck knows what will happen come delivery day. It's called balance.
@plumpous Same. Baby coming out of me? That's all fine, but giant needles in my spine, not so much. Plus, I don't do laying down, anything being numb freaks me out, and I want to be able to move and walk to get the baby out. Also, every woman pick the birth you want and are comfortable with. No one should make you feel guilty about what you want, as long as you get your baby out healthy. But birthing centers (not home births) have better success rates than hospitals. In fairness, they also only do low risk births, so that's part of it too.
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Home birth is dangerous?? LOL. Let's not overreact. Believe me, no midwife who didn't want to lose her license would EVER agree to take on a woman who was not a totally safe case, and close enough to a hospital for an emergency. Ladies, stop pushing this idea that birth is a medical event! This is how so many unnecessary inductions/c sections occur. If you prefer a medical environment that is totally ok. Don't shame women for not wanting to be in a hospital. There is no need to be in a hospital if you have had an uncomplicated pregnancy. We live in a time where there could be a fantastic meeting of the old world and the new. Educate yourselves.
@misskrisbliss serious question- did you sign on today just to stir the pot? I've never seen you post here and now you have posted on two threads in a row clearly just trying to stir stuff up
I thankfully don't see it here that much, but it drives me insane when people use sex and gender interchangeably. Sex is biological, gender is a social construct. I have trans friends and people who conflate the two drive me nuts (this is also why I hate gender reveal parties).
I realize most people just don't think about it because they're used interchangeably so often (although incorrect). I saw one reveal on Pinterest and the cake said "we're here for the sex!" That made me laugh and feel proud of them haha.
I think people that judge me for what I eat while pregnant (or while not pregnant) because it's not organic or natural or free of preservatives or whatever need to get over themselves and stop trying to control me and put me down. I don't need to explain myself or my decisions to anyone and I am certainly fed up with society's constant bombardment that I'm not good enough just because of how I look.
Guess I hit a nerve. No one said squat about beauty standards. Nutrition has zero to do with how you look.
You wanna shove McDonald's down your throat all day er'yday? Cool. You do you, lady.
Thanks for once again confirming that you know nothing about me.
It's not what you say, but how you say it.
I'll let you get back to judging and laughing at all the people who eat things with preservatives now.
What?! Of course I know you! How else could I have crafted the perfect general post about pre-natal nutrition that so clearly, a) targeted you personally, b) meant I was judging your looks, c) tried to control you, d) used "fresh produce" as code for "preservatives", and e) gave just the right tone to ensure you know that I am judging and laughing.
I think pre-natal nutrition is completely downplayed on these boards. I'm surprised by how much women here encourage each other to eat total crap. (Not the occasional treat - the constant fast food and lack of fresh produce.) I'd like to see us hold ourselves to a higher standard, though I know that needs to be balanced with support. I'd think attention to diet is more important than nursery theme, but that kind of stuff seems to get more mental space for many women.
I have to agree about pre-natal nutrition being downplayed in pregnancy in general...although I'm a total hypocrite because I ate 6 cookies yesterday! If you're really sick, I say just eat some form of real FOOD, if you're having a really bad craving, have a small piece of something delicious, and then eat healthy most of the time. I've struggled big time with this first trimester but I still eat healthy most of the time, take my vitamins, exercise and drink water etc.
Why is desiring a med-free birth being equated to having a baby in the middle of the living room floor without a labor specialist?
I'm sorry but some of the above posts are using inflammatory language and scare tactics to imply that desiring a med-free birth is dangerous and reckless. The c-section rate in the United States is 33% - way higher than medically necessary (according to the WHO and any OB who is not being recorded will agree as well). C-section rates are higher on Fridays and low on Christmas Day - why? people just want to go home. The c-section rate is higher here than in any other first world country. In Northern Europe where c-section rates are lower than 10% - labor and delivery is entrusted to midwives, and OBs are called for high risk pregnancies and real medical emergencies. The higher rate of medical interventions in the US has not yielded better outcomes in terms of maternal or infant mortality rate. It has systematically been shown that interventions lower mortality rates up to a point but there is a glaring over-intervention culture that has taken over the maternity ward. OBs also have the highest malpractice lawsuit rates, which is in part responsible for overly interventional care. Please do some research before spewing the virtues of modern medicine and completely handing over your care without being an active and responsible party.
You do not need an OB to deliver a baby in a low risk pregnancy. It's not that complicated. Of course, it is an individual's choice, which is completely fine. That being said, I would like to have the OB and NICU within reach should there be a medical emergency. And as a previous poster mentioned, I too am more afraid of the epidural than I am the labor pain so I sucked it up last time - that of course doesn't make me or my experience better just different.
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Just because something is "natural" does not make it inherently safe. To impose this idea on laboring mothers is irresponsible and ridiculous. Childbirth is inherently dangerous. Yes, there are plenty of low risk pregnancies that deliver with ease and without complication, but childbirth was once the #1 cause of death among women, back before evil modern medicine swooped in and started saving the lives of countless women and their babies. How dare they.
And the argument that pain during labor is "good pain," "natural," or, even better "not actually pain" makes me want to claw my eyes out. Pain is pain, period. People who are dying are in pain, and dying is natural. Should we encourage them to go med-free too, since it's part of life?
I could go on and on. If you want a med free birth, go for it. That's your right. don't you dare try to tell me what kind of birth I should have. That is not your right.
Also, I have a friend who blames her c-section on her child's disability, and wants to have her next child at home with no drugs. Every day I try to talk sense into her, especially considering vbacs can be super dangerous.
I think I just get defensive when women are called out for showing their bodies especially when it's within limits and rules. I would absolutely never post a picture like that but I don't want women to be scared to do so and I feel like it bleeds over into other situations like public breastfeeding and oversexulaizing women - and I know that's a slippery slope argument!
ETA: yes I know cancer care and pregnancy are not the same, just trying to explain how I view advances in medicine!!
Also the bigger the bow the better.
Eta: TB makes my pic look like shit.
Highly monitored internet and no cell service in the office, so I'm postin' and ghostin' while I'm workin'
I also chose that pic since her face was covered.
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The gender disappointment drama was especially heated because we have and have had a few beloved regs waiting for life and death or very serious medical news regarding their babies. It was selfish and insensitive for a few posters to bemoan gender disappointment on a near daily basis and expect sympathy from anyone in June.
Also I'm in camp unmedicated birth. I would never give birth outside of a hospital and I'm thankful I have the option to go unmedicated with plenty of men in white coats around. But I do think it lowers the chance of complications. I would never judge another momma or tell her how to birth but if I get the chance to have a vaginal birth this time then it's going to be unmedicated.
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BFP November 2016 - pending...
I am so over the ridiculous argument that somehow things done "long ago" were nostalgically all wonderful and better for you. "In the good ol'days" nobody had any cancer or ADHD or depression. Bull. All bull. We are f-ing lucky to live in the time we do today and to be surrounded by hospitals and modern medicine that can save our lives when needed. We are now more EDUCATED and can identify depression or ADHD when we see it. People no longer believe a demon possessed those people or they've been cursed or all the other rampant nonsense people used to believe.
I will never feel guilty for having c-sections. Those c-sections saved my life and made it possible for me to be a mom. Yes, they have some downsides, but being alive and having a healthy alive child is worth every single stupid side effect.
I eat organic and buy organic/chemical-free lotions and soaps and all that jazz, but I also vaccinate my kids and take medicine when needed. There is a happy medium, and I am so sick of the argument that it's all or nothing (not that I think anybody was arguing that, I'm just ranting at this point lol)
Sorry for my rant! If you read till the end, you get a cookie
I seriously don't get it and am already so annoyed with people's comments about us having a boy since we already have a girl! I just want another baby. Period.
Also, I had an unmedicated birth with my first, but didn't do it to be a hero or rub it in anyone's face. There were times in labor I told my husband I couldn't do it and I wanted one. I just didn't want to deal with side effects of an epidural after watching my SILs recovery. My recovery was great, dare I say easy, and I will definitely be going that route again if at all possible.
Although my Mom does tell me I don't have to go "crazy" about my choice to be chemical-free with baby. I'm like, "Uh, yeah, I do!" But I would never impose that on other people. To each their own! It's damn expensive to be organic, chemical free and cruelty (yes, I'm that too) free! She rolled her eyes at me when I told her I was thinking about going vegetarian. (I have since decided against it. I like meat and cheese waaaayyyy too much. But I live in the country so I think being able to get more humanely raised and slaughtered meat is certainly possibly.)
Disclaimer: I am those things to the best of my ability. My home/life isn't 100% any of these things. Maybe one day, but I try and that's all that matters ... to me
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It's normal to have a preference, because sometimes you can't help it.
It's normal to be rubbed the wrong way by people who have a preference when you just want a damn baby.
Even people who have had previous losses or struggled to get here may have a preference for reasons they can't explain.
In the end, things get heated, people agree to disagree, and it dies off after this 12-20 week period of finding out the sex.
(as in all generalized cases there are people that take it too far past just a general preference and are genuinely upset...I've seen people go to therapy for it which I think is a wonderful idea)
But seriously - you hit the nail on the head. I think what a lot of people forget is that there is a middle ground - this isn't all or nothing. While I consider myself a slightly "crunchy" person, you better believe this LO will be born in a hospital. And while I'd LOVE to have an un-medicated (hospital) birth, if the safest thing for me and my baby is determined to be a cs, then so be it! Heck, DH was 10 pounds and breech, so who the heck knows what will happen come delivery day. It's called balance.
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Also, every woman pick the birth you want and are comfortable with. No one should make you feel guilty about what you want, as long as you get your baby out healthy. But birthing centers (not home births) have better success rates than hospitals. In fairness, they also only do low risk births, so that's part of it too.
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I have to agree about pre-natal nutrition being downplayed in pregnancy in general...although I'm a total hypocrite because I ate 6 cookies yesterday! If you're really sick, I say just eat some form of real FOOD, if you're having a really bad craving, have a small piece of something delicious, and then eat healthy most of the time. I've struggled big time with this first trimester but I still eat healthy most of the time, take my vitamins, exercise and drink water etc.
I'm sorry but some of the above posts are using inflammatory language and scare tactics to imply that desiring a med-free birth is dangerous and reckless. The c-section rate in the United States is 33% - way higher than medically necessary (according to the WHO and any OB who is not being recorded will agree as well). C-section rates are higher on Fridays and low on Christmas Day - why? people just want to go home. The c-section rate is higher here than in any other first world country. In Northern Europe where c-section rates are lower than 10% - labor and delivery is entrusted to midwives, and OBs are called for high risk pregnancies and real medical emergencies. The higher rate of medical interventions in the US has not yielded better outcomes in terms of maternal or infant mortality rate. It has systematically been shown that interventions lower mortality rates up to a point but there is a glaring over-intervention culture that has taken over the maternity ward. OBs also have the highest malpractice lawsuit rates, which is in part responsible for overly interventional care. Please do some research before spewing the virtues of modern medicine and completely handing over your care without being an active and responsible party.
You do not need an OB to deliver a baby in a low risk pregnancy. It's not that complicated. Of course, it is an individual's choice, which is completely fine. That being said, I would like to have the OB and NICU within reach should there be a medical emergency. And as a previous poster mentioned, I too am more afraid of the epidural than I am the labor pain so I sucked it up last time - that of course doesn't make me or my experience better just different.
At least I know I'm unhealthy AF.
BUT GUISE I had a spinach salad and steak for dinner last night and Kefir for breakfast....pat me on the back.
I said I was unpopular. I'm not surprised you wouldn't do it like I did. This the UO thread.