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Month/Cycle
CD:
WAYDTGKU:
R/R:
CS/Q:
GTKY: Today is the first official day of winter... thumbs up or thumbs down?
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CD:
WAYDTGKU:
R/R:
CS/Q:
GTKY: Today is the first official day of winter... thumbs up or thumbs down?
ETA to fix month/cycle from copy paste of yesterday
TTC#2
DS born 9.17
TFMR 10.19
DS born 9.17
TFMR 10.19
Re: WTO Wednesday
Month/Cycle:
11/4AL
CD:
6
WAYDTGKU:
BBT CM CP HIO
R/R:
It's our Christmas potluck and secret Santa at work today!
CS/Q:
Nothing to see here
GTKY: Today is the first official day of winter... thumbs up or thumbs down?
We already have like 10+ inches of snow on the ground and had a few -20 degree days, so winter already started for me lol
Together 2003, Married 2011
DD: July 2005
BFP: 4/10/16, MC: 5/20/16
BFP: 1/10/17, DD2: Sep 2017
TTGP Dec '16 siggy challenge winner!
CD: 4
WAYDTGKU: waiting for AF to leave
R/R: looking forward to Christmas lunch with my team today
CS/Q: nope
GTKY: Today is the first official day of winter... thumbs up or thumbs down? Hmm... it already feels like it's been winter for awhile here so I guess thumbs up - the sooner it starts, the sooner it can end
CD:20 (come onnnnn)
WAYDTGKU:temping, cm, preseed, etc.
R/R: Was so anxious about getting my 3rd high temp I slept like crapppp and it didn't even come! Rave: Because of this board and all you knowledgable ladies I am learning not to quit HIO and am hoping O comes eventually and I'll be armed and ready.
CS/Q: Low temp today, but my first patch of EWCM this cycle ?!?!, others have been watery. Am thinking yesterday's temp was artificially high due to DH waking me up. I put in the 3a temp instead to see what it does to my chart. My temp today was even lower than that though. Ugh come on body, ovulate! Not surprised about temp, didn't get an OPK or serious O pain yet so in the back of my head I think I knew better. Anyone think I should get some CB OPKs instead of deciphering wondfos? Don't want to shell out $$$ if it's not worth the difference.
GTKY: Today is the first official day of winter... thumbs up or thumbs down? Thumbs up until Christmas. Thumbs down after
DS born 9.17
TFMR 10.19
@metrogirl have fun at lunch!
DS born 9.17
TFMR 10.19
Together 2003, Married 2011
DD: July 2005
BFP: 4/10/16, MC: 5/20/16
BFP: 1/10/17, DD2: Sep 2017
TTGP Dec '16 siggy challenge winner!
CD: 8
WAYDTGKU: BBT, CM, PNVs
R/R: it's the last day of school before winter break! The kids have been crazy this week so I know it's going to be a hard day, but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel! Looking forward to having a few free days to get my last-minute holiday shopping done.
CS/Q: my temps look sort of wonky right now but I know it's early
GTKY: Today is the first official day of winter... thumbs up or thumbs down? Thumbs up. I'm ready for fire in the fireplace, snuggling up under blankets, and snow days!
@Flinstone yay EWCM!
@ChefRamsay have fun with the potluck and secret santa!
@metrogirl enjoy your lunch!
@Flinstone Yay for EWCM!
Month/Cycle 4/4 (1 TTCAL)
CD: 16
WAYDTGKU: PNVs, OPKs, CM, HIO
R/R: ***TW Galore*** My bff had her baby last night. Mom and baby are doing well, me not so much. This is baby #5 with baby daddy #5. She is already back with baby daddy #2. She drank alcohol and smoked cigarettes and pot the whole time she was KU. They really can't afford 1 baby let alone 5. She got KU because they didn't use any form of BC. I'm happy that she and the baby are okay, but damn it it's not fair. Why does she get a take home baby and not one of us? ***TW End***
CS/Q: Anyone using CBAD get a solid smiley after 8 days of blinking smilies? I feel like I'm staring at an anovulatory cycle.
GTKY: Today is the first official day of winter... thumbs up or thumbs down? Thumbs up, I like winter and snow.
Dating: 2/2007 Married: 4/2011
TTC #1: 9/2016
*TW*
BFP #2: 3/9/2017 - CP: 3/10/2017
08/2017: DH's SA = normal
08/2017: Low progesterone (4.6) all other BW normal
11/2017: HSG Clear; Pelvic Ultrasound Normal; and AMH, FSH, and Estradiol normal
12/2017: 1,000mg Metformin
12/2017: 50mg Clomid + TI = BFN
01/2018: 100mg Clomid + TI = BFN
01/2018: RE Consult
03/2018: 5mg Letrozole + 50 units Gonal-F + 500 μg Ovidrel + IUI = BFP #3: 4/1/2018 - CP: 4/4/2018
04/2018: 5mg Letrozole + Gonal-F + Ovidrel + IUI = BFP #4: 5/2/18
Month/Cycle 8/9
CD: 16
WAYDTGKU:blah blah blah
R/R: Rocking another awesome Christmas sweater today. Also, we have a holiday dinner with H's work team tonight and I'm really looking forward to it.
CS/Q: still no consistent temp increase so I don't think I have O'd. I was taking epo this cycle (which didn't really seem to effect CM) and I read somewhere a while back that it could delay O so I stopped taking it. I'm not really in a hurry to O as long as I do eventually and we will just keep HIO. Whateves.
GTKY: Today is the first official day of winter... thumbs up or thumbs down? I don't love winter but we need to get through it so I'll say thumbs up - spring is one day closer.
2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos
moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos
Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC
Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks
May 2020 FET; BFN
July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate
Oct 2020 BFP!
Take a look at my blog
@KariAnn323 I'm glad your friend is ok but I'm sorry you're not doing so well.
@laurad75 Another great sweater.
Together 2003, Married 2011
DD: July 2005
BFP: 4/10/16, MC: 5/20/16
BFP: 1/10/17, DD2: Sep 2017
TTGP Dec '16 siggy challenge winner!
@laurad75 FX we both spit out an egg soon
DS born 9.17
TFMR 10.19
CD: 2
WAYDTGKU: waiting for AF to skeeeee-daddle
R/R: Its my day off! I am gonna have a lazy day off doing nothing
CS/Q:
GTKY: Today is the first official day of winter... thumbs up or thumbs down?
Big thumbs down. I hate winter. But now it had started so I can start counting down the days till its over!
Month/Cycle 2/2 after break
CD: 7
WAYDTGKU: just a normal trying on our own kinda cycle right now so just hio at least eod and whatnot
R/R: so after finding out I had a 12mm follie on my right ovary on cd2 I had a bit of a meltdown thinking the trigger shot just didn't work for me to release my egg or whatever and am in the middle of switching RE's because of this ( they were assholes about everything) but last night at work I started having right pelvic pain and lots of watery CM so I'm gonna make sure we HIO just in case....who knows
CS/Q:
GTKY: Today is the first official day of winter... thumbs up or thumbs down?
Thumbs down all the way. It's been winter here for a little while now and I detest it. I hate the snow and the cold.
@metrogirl Have fun at your work Christmas lunch, too! It's also the shortest day of the year, so at least the days will start getting longer after today!
@TravelingCouple Awesome you O'd! Have fun in TWW and hopefully some other ladies will join soon. It will be a while yet for me.
@Flinstone Hurray for EWCM! FX!
@LadyMeowMeow I laugh every time I see your name and picture. Ah-mazing!
@KariAnn323 Glad your friend is OK. She's very lucky in all aspects...that she has healthy babies and that she has been able to conceive easily so many times. I'm sorry it's been hard on you. *Hugs*
@laurad75 Another fabulous sweater! I have to wonder where you found these gems. LOL
@kiwi2628 Have fun on your day off!
Month/Cycle: 4/4
CD: 5
WAYDTGKU: All the things.... First month temping! Started this morning.
R/R: Two more days of work... two more days of work..
CS/Q: Not yet. I will post my chart when I have more data.
GTKY: Today is the first official day of winter... thumbs up or thumbs down?
Thumbs up. Means that the days are going to get longer and we're getting closer to spring.
Married Aug. 2013
TTC #1 Sep. 2016
***TW***
BFP Jun. 5, 2017; MMC Aug. 2, 2017 at 11w6d
BFP Nov. 20, 2017; ended in CP
All the tests. Everything normal except treated for ureaplasma and DH potentially has high DNAF.
BFP Dec. 25, 2017; EDD Sep. 5, 2018; DD arrived Aug. 26th
My chart: https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/63f71d
1/1
CD:
11
WAYDTGKU:
Currently attempting to temp and also opks and pnv. However my 2 1/2 year old is sick and thinks mommy and daddy's bed is his. So since I'm approaching O day I suspect things are not going to happen this month
R/R: rave - work is slow this week so that makes me happy.
CS/Q:
My chart looks nutty so I'm going to finish out this cycle and see if there is any rhyme or reason. I suspect I'll be posting on chart stalk in the next few days.
GTKY: Today is the first official day of winter... thumbs up or thumbs down?
Totally thumbs up! The days are getting longer again and I HATE that it's dark when I leave for work and when I come home from work!
CD: 2
WAYDTGKU: pnv's, temping- taking a break from the opk's this cycle
R/R: Today is technically my Thursday as we get Friday and Monday off; I'm actually really looking forward to Christmas.
CS/Q: nope
GTKY: Today is the first official day of winter... thumbs up or thumbs down?
Thumbs up! I like the winter more than the summer, I never sweat, and it's finally time for scarves!
DD born: 3/31/19
2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos
moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos
Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC
Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks
May 2020 FET; BFN
July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate
Oct 2020 BFP!
Take a look at my blog
@Flinstone I've been using the dollar tree ovulation predictors. I used them a few cycles ago and they seem to be ok I feel like they are somewhere between the wondfo ones and the super expensive ones. However I have zero knowledge other than my lurking and you seem like more of a pro..... so that's just my two cents,which is worth about two cents
@metrogirl Have fun at your lunch!
@Flinstone FX that O is really close!
@TravelingCouple Yay for O and good timing!
@KariAnn323 It will be our day soon! I'm right there with you though, it's tough. All the creepy hugs coming your way!
@Starla Good luck with temping
Month/Cycle 19/9
CD:11
WAYDTGKU: PNV, BBT, CM, OPK
R/R: We decided to invite some friends over for a Hanukkah/Christmas Eve dinner on Saturday so now I am looking forward to that.
My rave is my body. WTF?!?! I bled again while HIO after having a cycle with minimal bleeding. I made an appt with a new doctor but the soonest they could get me in was expected AF so I made it the next week.
CS/Q: none yet.
GTKY: Today is the first official day of winter... thumbs up or thumbs down?
DD2 born 9/10/17
CD: 4
WAYDTGKU: PNV, healthy lifestyle (although the bottle of wine I consumed last night probably disagrees with that assertion), otherwise benched.
R/R: I absolutely love the Christmas decorations in my living room. Like so much so that I'm already getting sad that Christmas is almost here and they will have to come down. I know, its weird.
CS/Q:
GTKY: Today is the first official day of winter... thumbs up or thumbs down? Thumbs down. While I do enjoy the first snow and sitting by the fireplace, I hate being cold. I would much rather be warm.
** December BMB Siggy Challenge - Animals in Pools **
Me: 31+ H: 32
TTC Since 11/2015
#1 - MMC 6.5 weeks (2/16); #2 - MC due to cystic hygroma at 20 weeks (10/16); #3 CP (2/17); #4 - Due 12.16.17
CD: 17
WAYDTGKU: back to all things.
R/R: WHAT the WHAT body, after getting neg OPKs after positives and a temp spike yesterday, today I woke up to a big temp drop and a +OPK, so I don't think I O'd on monday. You are regular till your not, but way to mess with me. sort of rave: I am still absorbing the news that I will have to wean before we can start a medicated cycle, I'm not sure that I will get there before the next cycle but for the first time ever DS didn't want to nurse this morning, so maybe they are close to ready to make this transition and I won't be cutting them off before they are ready.
CS/Q: feel free to take a look.
GTKY: Today is the first official day of winter... thumbs up or thumbs down? Up, I like winter as long as the snow is plowed, plus it means we are getting closer to spring!
@flinstone glad your in a better place and ready to keep HIO!
@TravelingCouple HOORAY for CH, I'm glad all the confusion has cleared up
@keriann323 Hugs, I am so sorry, it can be so hard to watch someone who gets KTFU so easily and does not seem to treasure it.
@starla way to get into the temping game!
Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
TTC #3 5/2016
Restarted Fertility tx
IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
DD2 born 9/10/17
CD: 5
WAYDTGKU: OPKs. PNVs. Magnesium, fish oil
R/R: working from home today which means I'll really be cleaning and finishing wrapping gifts
CS/Q: my AF only lasted two days and maaaybe one day of spotting. So three days total. I know we've discussed short AF affecting fertility before but I can't remember the conclusion? Is three days bad? I thought the prior discussions ended with four days being okay. Usually I'm around four (2 days heavy, 2 spotting) but this month was hardly even spotting on cd3. Any insight would be great!
GTKY: Today is the first official day of winter... thumbs up or thumbs down?
ehh not my favorite month but I love the holidays!
EDD: March 24, 2018 - angel baby at 21 weeks
EDD: March 24, 2018 - angel baby at 21 weeks
@Kariann323 Wow, that is really shitty. I'm sorry you are dealing with that right in front of your face. So unfair.
@laurad75 Wow, the sweaters! I look forward to your post every day.
@Tennis11785 Aww, hugs girl.
@wabash15 Maybe the twins are getting the feeling they want another sibling so they'll help you out with weaning
Month/Cycle: 7/8
CD: 17 (The tale of the disappearing cycle buddies... just @wabash15 @mrsegan13 @soemthingclever left I think)
WAYDTGKU: Temping, CM, PNVs, CoQ10, vitamin D, green tea, avoiding soy. Ate some pineapple yesterday lol.
R/R: DH is still in bed because he's cold. What a life! Today is my last day of work, though, until next week which is exciting for me. I love my job, but still...
CS/Q: Ugh, I thought cd15 was O but I had a temp drop today below coverline. It could easily be a fallback rise (I've had that before) but since my BSC is not limited to TWW, I immediately thought "omg I'm having an anovulatory cycle" since I didn't have any O pain this cycle. Thanks crazy lady brain!)
GTKY: Like @Starla said, I'm no fan of winter but today means the days start getting longer!
@jillibean0871 I'm with you on being glad the days will be longer. The darkness is so depressing.
@spiderlover25 I hope your new doc helps you figure out what's going on.
Month/Cycle: 3/2 TTCAL
CD: 5
WAYDTGKU: BBT, PNV, HIO, green tea, cutting back on drinking
R/R: meh, it's too early for this
CS/Q: I guess this is more of a discussion topic, but last night I was contemplating whether cutting back on drinking while TTC was really worth it. I tend to have really irregular cycles and O anywhere between CD 20 and 35. So I found this while googling:
https://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh26-4/274-281.htm
I found it really interesting (since I'm a scientist) and think it might give me the motivation I need. I tend to grab a beer with dinner most nights otherwise. This article was written for the general public, but I might dive into the citations to see if it's a really legit thing. If you all are interested, I could add more details later.
GTKY: I now live in a place with no snow or cold weather, so I say thumbs up. It will be nice to only visit the frozen tundra for 4 days over Christmas and come back to the warmth!
Me: 30 | DH: 31
Met: August 2006
Married: July 2012
TTC #1 since June 2016
***TW***
BFP: 7/12/16 | MC: 9/12/16
BFP: 1/18/17 | MMC: 2/13/17
BFP: 10/7/17 | EDD: 6/21/17
MTHFR: homozygous A1298C
Month/Cycle: 9/?
CD: 4
WAYDTGKU: all the things
R/R: Rave it's almost xmas and can start BD'ing again soon when AF leaves haha. Also, WE GOT A NEW PUPPY! We already have a 4 year old border collie/black lab and we just brought home a little 4 month old yellow lab mix munchkin! I just want to be home and cuddle him all day haha
CS/Q: Nada
GTKY: Today is the first official day of winter... thumbs up or thumbs down? I'm going to say thumbs up. I love Christmas and next weekend we are heading to Vermont for our first ski of the year, so I am ready for that
@cheframsay I am jealous of your snow! haha (and of all of our delicious sounding Christmas baking)
@travelingcouple hooray for great timing! FX'd!
@kariann323 ughh that would push me over the edge. I already get upset around great parents with new babies, I probably couldn't handle a friend like that
@laurad75 I love this rocking horse sweater! haha keep the pics coming!
@spiderlover25 I laughed out loud at my desk at your gif, thanks for that! hahah
@tennis11785 I am totally with you! I LOVE my Christmas decorations and am sad and taking down all the pretty white lights and garland in my living room. It makes me so happy that I dread taking it down and seeing everything all plain again. Can't I just leave them up until it is warm again? No one comes over in the winter anyway, amirite? ha
[spoiler]
Me: 28 Him: 30
Married: 11/15/14
TTC: 02/2016
IF DX: MFI (low count & morphology) & mild PCOS
June 2016 BFP - MC @8w2d
August 2016 BFP - MC @6w1d
June 2017 - 50 mg Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI = BFP 7/6/17!!
Beta #1 = 422 (14dpo), Beta #2 = 810, prog - 12.3 (16dpo), Beta #3 = 5023, prog - 18.9 (20dpo)
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@KariAnn323 Hugs for you. Sorry you are stuck in such a crappy situation.
@wabash15 Happy to hear the twins seem to be cooperating with weaning! Hope everything goes smoothly!
@adirat I sometimes feel that my BSC is stronger while WTO! I am really good at jumping to worst case scenarios, so I am pretty sure every cycle I manage to convince myself I am broken in some way!
Month/Cycle: 7/8
CD: 13
WAYDTGKU: all the things...
R/R: Not even going to start since I am in ultimate shitty mood today, so instead here is a visual depiction of my feelings today:
CS/Q: --
GTKY: Today is the first official day of winter... thumbs up or thumbs down? Way, way down. Too cold, too dark, too depressing. I wish I could hibernate...
Married 9/2015
TTC #1 6/2016
Dx Unexplained IF 6/2017
Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI 7/2017 - Cancelled (overstimulated)
Letrozole + Ovidrel + IUI #1 - BFN
Letrozole + Ovidrel + IUI #2 -BFN
Letrozole + Ovidrel + IUI#3 - BFP! EDD July 15 2018
Baby Girl H - July 22 2018
CD: 30
WAYDTGKU: Nothing this month.
R/R:
CS/Q:
GTKY: Today is the first official day of winter... thumbs up or thumbs down? BOO. I hate winter.
Married: 04/05/15
TTC since: 02/16/16
@adirat gosh I hope you're right. My body has been faking me out lately! I am in the exact same boat as you are with thinking I o'd, but then didn't have any pain so this is an-o. UGHHH. I had pineapple yesterday too! Is it ok to eat WTO or only 1-5dpo I read it can make CM acidic.
@wabash15 dang we're all getting faked out this month!
@jillibean0871 thank you for the info. I have use dollar store before, but had an an-o cycle that month so I didn't get anywhere with them either!
@GG620 just read your signature. I had no idea there was such a thing as mild PCOS. Yay for the new puppy!!
DS born 9.17
TFMR 10.19
- acute alcohol exposure in female rats has been found to disrupt female cycling
- A study of female rats fed alcohol or a control diet for 17 weeks starting at young adulthood (comparable in age to a 21–year–old woman) found that alcohol did not lead to anovulation but rather to irregular ovulation
I don't even drink much as it is, but that will deter me for a while. I know we're not rats, but hey I'll try anything for regular O's!DS born 9.17
TFMR 10.19
@KariAnn323 -Sorry you're having a rough day. I agree... that really sucks.*hugs*
@haylsbayls -My last two AFs have been that way too.. 2 days of light bleeding and a bunch of spotting. I did a brief google search and read that it is not necessarily indicative of fertility issues/doesn't impede getting KU.. but curious to see others weigh in on the subject.
@GG620 -Yay puppy! Pictures!
Month/Cycle 3/3
CD: 20 (I'm with you @Flinstone... come ooonnnnn!)
WAYDTGKU: BBT/CM/CP/OPK/saliva fern test/HIO
R/R: Annnndddd... I have a cold. Swell. Managed to hide it from DH yesterday but it's progressing nicely from stuffiness to faucet nose and sneezing. I hate when I'm sick because DH complains about it more than I do. It's the man cold without the man even having the cold. God forbid he gets it too.
CS/Q: I'm guessing/hoping today is O day. I had positive OPKs both AM and PM yesterday.. and this morning it is lighter. Last cycle I missed the positive/caught the decline and ended up Oing that day. Want to get one last BD in tonight but I think I might have a hard time convincing DH. What with my having the plague and all. Plus we don't usually have the most active sex life and I fear he feels like I'm using him for his seed
GTKY: Today is the first official day of winter... thumbs up or thumbs down?
Thumbs down... I don't do cold very well.
BFP #2 3/18/19 * EDD 11/25/19* DS born 11/30/19
EDD: March 24, 2018 - angel baby at 21 weeks
@crazypuglady happily! (apologies if they are huge haha) Black one is my 4 year old and the brown one is our new little one
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[spoiler]
Me: 28 Him: 30
Married: 11/15/14
TTC: 02/2016
IF DX: MFI (low count & morphology) & mild PCOS
June 2016 BFP - MC @8w2d
August 2016 BFP - MC @6w1d
June 2017 - 50 mg Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI = BFP 7/6/17!!
Beta #1 = 422 (14dpo), Beta #2 = 810, prog - 12.3 (16dpo), Beta #3 = 5023, prog - 18.9 (20dpo)
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CD: 3
WAYDTGKU: AF is still here.
R/R: *TW I wasn't going to post here today. I just checked Facebook and saw another pregnancy announcement. Maybe I should get off FB. I feel like such a child that I can't handle happy news for other people when my TTC road hasn't been nearly as long as others. This friend got married in May and pregnant 2-3 months afterwards. I don't know how long they were really trying but we are the same age. I feel really awful. *end TW
CS/Q:
GTKY: Today is the first official day of winter... thumbs up or thumbs down? It's already felt like winter for weeks now. I don't mind winter in general but I give it a thumbs down because I think more sun might help me feel more upbeat.
Married: 2012
TTC Since September 2016
Regarding alcohol and ttc, the research evidence in human studies is actually very mixed. The general recommendation is not to worry unless you already have ovulatory dysfunction. There are a number of reasons that rodent studies may not generalize to humans for reproductive studies so I don't put too much stock in it. That said, I may soon get desperate enough to try anything so who knows.
@Flinstone There was a lot of interesting stuff in there. I think they also noted that it was reversible (after they stopped treating with alcohol, their cycles went back to normal).
Me: 30 | DH: 31
Met: August 2006
Married: July 2012
TTC #1 since June 2016
***TW***
BFP: 7/12/16 | MC: 9/12/16
BFP: 1/18/17 | MMC: 2/13/17
BFP: 10/7/17 | EDD: 6/21/17
MTHFR: homozygous A1298C
@midsomervillage Get off facebook. Even temporarily. It isn't worth the emotional turmoil.
@adirat I think we are really cycle twins this cycle, we both thought we O'd and had temp drops this AM...
@crazypuglady thanks for giving me an excuse to use my favorite gif... go get it!
Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
TTC #3 5/2016
Restarted Fertility tx
IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
BFP #2 3/18/19 * EDD 11/25/19* DS born 11/30/19