I have a general question about cycles coming off of any type of BC. A friend of mine had her doctor tell her that after BC or Pregnancy, your body returns to it's natural cycle before you messed with it. BC/Pregnancy don't "reset" it and whatever your period was like before hand is what it will eventually, in time, return to.
Mine have been all over the map since getting Paraguard out and I didn't temp beforehand, though I knew the lengths between AFs, just curious if anyone had heard of it resetting or going back or have any ideas? I am WTO this month and this time last month I was 3dpo. I have yet to have two synched cycles so I am just trying to figure out where my body is going. I know O can occur at any time within a certain window. But I've been 31, 55, 23 & 19. Not even close especially since 31 & 19 were my only O cycles.
Thanks @BusinessWife. I think I will give the two set times thing a go and see how it pans out. I keep track of my CM, but as far as opk's I don't use them because when I first started trying with a Dr and medicine and whatnot I used them but was getting positives 2 different times a month sometimes more and the Dr. Said it was because pcos can cause you to have an lh surge that is always high so they don't always work for people so I stopped wasting my money on them.
Ok, I guess it *really* matter what day I O'd since we had pretty good timing either way, but here's my chart. I forgot to set my alarm last night so of course my temp this morning was higher and not very reliable.
Anywho, given my CP and CM, I think CD14 is more likely but FF gave me CH for CD13. What do my experts think?
@Becky012016 Here's my rockiest chart ever if it makes you feel better. It's also a good example of triphasic not meaning pregnant, no matter how high you get your hopes.
Why are my temps bottoming out like this? I don't think it's O because it's been a serious of progressively lower temps. I honestly don't know anything about charting. Also I've taken OPKs multiple times per day- all negative. No ewcm, which I always have when I'm lucky enough to O. I have had strong O pain on my right side. But of course that could be a cyst. This is my first cycle consistently charting. But my temps between 97.1 and 97.7 during the follicular phase are consistent with past cycles. Suddenly they're low. What does it mean? Does it even matter?
@soemthingclever I usually have temp drop before O and then the obvious temp rise after. I have also had cycles where I didn't get ewcm. During those cycles I had watery cm, kinda like what you have now. As for opks, I haven't used opks in several cycles, but I'm sure someone else will have advice on that. I hope this helped. FX for O.
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@soemthingclever I know it's hard not to, but I wouldn't worry too much about the low temps. Temps are always higher during AF (I usually don't even start temping each cycle until AF is completely gone) and it seems like they've been coming down since then. It's still early in your cycle so it could be that O is coming. Honestly I would say see what the next 2-3 temps do. I wouldn't be surprised to see you O sometime soon. Keep us posted!
@soemthingclever looks like you're definitely gearing up to O! HIO!!!! The watery is totally a clear fertile sign (clear, stretchy, lubricative, or any combination of those is cool), and same as pps, I would see my temps, often higher and/or rocky during af, steadily decline leading up to O, and then a nice obvious spike. Looks like you're going to have a verrpretty chart to oogle all tww! :D Dont be too discouraged either, even if you dont see a + opk. The biphasic temps, fertile cm several days prior etc. are all showing you your body's doing what it's supposed to. You may get a + still, you nay not. Not a huge concern if the temp shift is super obvious. ;)
Do you guys think FF is right about my O date? Chart is in siggy. FF predicted a CD9 O date last cycle too, and based on when AF showed up and my temps I'm not sure it was right. This month I did have a +opk, but the temp rise from CD13-17 has me questioning it again. Thanks :-)
@stephann85@BusinessWife@beachbunnyxo123 I'm definitely gonna HIO! I'm crying in my bed at the thought of actually Oing. Thank you for your insight and support. I'm so afraid to get my hopes up (which is part of the reason I'm crying). We'll see. I guess I thought there was just one drastic temp drop before O. I didn't realize a series of low temps could happen.
SN used to be soemthingclever Me: 28 DH: 35 Dx PCOS May 2015 Baby #1 due 12/7/17
@thebookisbetter I think FF is right on. With the cm, the +opk, and the temp rise I would put O at cd 9. Looks like you had good timing too, FX for you this cycle!
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BFP #1: 1/1/16, MC 1/14/16 (6 weeks), D&C 2/5/16 (9 weeks) BFP #2: 5/25/16, MC 6/23/16 (8 weeks), D&C 6/24/16, 2nd D&C for retained tissue and fibroid removal 9/1/16 BFP #3: 12/24/16 EDD 09/04/2017
@soemthingclever FX so hard for you!!!! I really think this could be O! Get it girl!
@thebookisbetter Yes, I agree with @stephann85 that this looks right. You had a similar pattern the first few days after O in your November cycle, with the immediate 3-4dpo temps near coverline. If you're nervous, continue to HIO a couple days in 2dpo-5dpo in future cycles.
Lol! Thanks, @adirat I got a higher temp this morning. I guess I just have to wait for 2 more, right? If they stay high, that means O? I'm having trouble determining what "high" is.
Did you temp earlier or later than usual this morning @somethingclever? I do not think you O'ed yet. Your temp will be higher than the previous six temps usually, so you're looking for something above 97.3. Keep taking OPKs. You may want to start HIO every other day instead of every day. Up to you and H.
TTC since 8/7/16 BFP 9/13/16 MMC 10/18/16 D&C 10/20/16
@mrsegan13 I think you're right. I haven't turned an OPK yet. But I know that doesn't always mean anything. I temped around the same time, but I had to get up to pee a couple of hours before that. I think I'm just going to stop asking about it because it's stressing me out. I know the likelihood of Oing is low and I'm just getting myself stirred up over nothing. Thank you all for your insight and ttc wisdom, as always.
SN used to be soemthingclever Me: 28 DH: 35 Dx PCOS May 2015 Baby #1 due 12/7/17
Starting TTC baby #2 this month, and still not sure if I ovulated yet. Normally my temp shifts are very apparent, but of course the month we start TTC again, it isn't!
I've attached pics of this month's chart vs last month's chart (when we weren't trying). Thoughts?
On Day 18 and 19, I had cramping and what felt like ovulation pain, but my temp shift just isn't super clear as compared to last month yet.
@jen83mn I would lean towards CD16 for O, are you tracking CM or using OPK?
I haven't been using CM or OPK this month (need to buy some more OPKs!); Day 15 and 16 I did get much less sleep than usual, so that may also be contributing to the large drop in temp. In month's past (and the month I got pregnant with my first), I ovulated on Day 19 (I ovulate later than the average Day 14).
@jen83mn I'm no charting expert but have been doing my own charting and stalking others charts for several months and I agree with others that CD 16 seems likely, with the possibility of CD 17 at the latest. Either way, your timing looks good with -1 for CD 16 and 0 for CD 17.
That makes me sad @soemthingclever. Keep in mind, Oing on CD14 is considered "normal," but so is Oing as late as say CD24...I know you started the OPKs really early, and I wonder if that is part of what has made you anxious. You've now seen 11 days of negative OPKs, but you're only on CD14. Start a little later. I wasn't sure what would happen this month, so I started on CD9. I'm already impatient too, but our bodies have their own schedules.
TTC since 8/7/16 BFP 9/13/16 MMC 10/18/16 D&C 10/20/16
@soemthingclever Try not to get discouraged! I have had cycles all over the maps before, with my shortest cycle being 27 days and my longest being 59! I've found that I usually ovulate later around Day 19, but the 59 day cycle I ended up ovulating around Day 47. The next cycle after that super long cycle I ended up getting pregnant with my first (and had a normal 28-30 day cycle).
Some of my charts end up being very easy to read, with very clear temp shifts, but others (like this month) are not as clear and it is definitely frustrating! (Especially when last month's cycle, before we started trying, was so easy to read!)
We're just continuing to try every other day until my temp shift is clear, just so we don't miss our chance this month. I'm not gonna lie - it's exhausting and I'm ready for those crosshairs to show up so we can have a little break!
Also, keep in mind that other factors - like bad/too little sleep - can lower your temps. I've noticed that my temps are much lower on those nights I had a restless sleep or didn't get as much sleep as I usually do.
@mrsegan13 I agree. I definitely started the OPKs too early and now I'm stressed out about it. I don't know if I can HIO until CD 24. Good grief. I just feel betrayed by my body because of PCOS. It doesn't work most of the time, so my hopes have pretty much bottomed out.
@jen83mn Thank you for the encouragement. If my cycles go long- 47 days, 60 days, I just assume it's an anovulatory cycle because of PCOS. Sounds like it's different for you. We're also going to do EOD until I get that confirmed temp shift.
On a positive note, my CM has changed from watery to more of an EWCM consistency with noticeable stretchiness between my fingers. And I tried so hard to reach my SS cervix and could finally feel with the tip of my finger that it felt soft. Of course I'm not used to feeling my cervix, so it's hard to know for sure. It definitely didn't feel hard.
SN used to be soemthingclever Me: 28 DH: 35 Dx PCOS May 2015 Baby #1 due 12/7/17
Re: Weekly Chart Stalk Thread
Mine have been all over the map since getting Paraguard out and I didn't temp beforehand, though I knew the lengths between AFs, just curious if anyone had heard of it resetting or going back or have any ideas? I am WTO this month and this time last month I was 3dpo. I have yet to have two synched cycles so I am just trying to figure out where my body is going. I know O can occur at any time within a certain window. But I've been 31, 55, 23 & 19. Not even close especially since 31 & 19 were my only O cycles.
DS born 9.17
TFMR 10.19
Anywho, given my CP and CM, I think CD14 is more likely but FF gave me CH for CD13. What do my experts think?
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@Becky012016 Here's my rockiest chart ever if it makes you feel better. It's also a good example of triphasic not meaning pregnant, no matter how high you get your hopes.
Why are my temps bottoming out like this? I don't think it's O because it's been a serious of progressively lower temps. I honestly don't know anything about charting. Also I've taken OPKs multiple times per day- all negative. No ewcm, which I always have when I'm lucky enough to O. I have had strong O pain on my right side. But of course that could be a cyst. This is my first cycle consistently charting. But my temps between 97.1 and 97.7 during the follicular phase are consistent with past cycles. Suddenly they're low. What does it mean? Does it even matter?
Me: 28 DH: 35
Dx PCOS May 2015
Baby #1 due 12/7/17
Me 31, DH 30
BFP #2: 5/25/16, MC 6/23/16 (8 weeks), D&C 6/24/16, 2nd D&C for retained tissue and fibroid removal 9/1/16
BFP #3: 12/24/16 EDD 09/04/2017
Me: 36 DH: 41
DS born 04/24/08
TTC #2: September 2016
My Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/681ee7
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/681ee7
Me: 36 DH: 41
DS born 04/24/08
TTC #2: September 2016
My Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/681ee7
I'm definitely gonna HIO! I'm crying in my bed at the thought of actually Oing. Thank you for your insight and support. I'm so afraid to get my hopes up (which is part of the reason I'm crying). We'll see. I guess I thought there was just one drastic temp drop before O. I didn't realize a series of low temps could happen.
Me: 28 DH: 35
Dx PCOS May 2015
Baby #1 due 12/7/17
Me 31, DH 30
BFP #2: 5/25/16, MC 6/23/16 (8 weeks), D&C 6/24/16, 2nd D&C for retained tissue and fibroid removal 9/1/16
BFP #3: 12/24/16 EDD 09/04/2017
@thebookisbetter Yes, I agree with @stephann85 that this looks right. You had a similar pattern the first few days after O in your November cycle, with the immediate 3-4dpo temps near coverline. If you're nervous, continue to HIO a couple days in 2dpo-5dpo in future cycles.
Me: 28 DH: 35
Dx PCOS May 2015
Baby #1 due 12/7/17
BFP 9/13/16
MMC 10/18/16
D&C 10/20/16
Me: 28 DH: 35
Dx PCOS May 2015
Baby #1 due 12/7/17
BFP 9/13/16
MMC 10/18/16
D&C 10/20/16
I've attached pics of this month's chart vs last month's chart (when we weren't trying). Thoughts?
On Day 18 and 19, I had cramping and what felt like ovulation pain, but my temp shift just isn't super clear as compared to last month yet.
Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
TTC #3 5/2016
Restarted Fertility tx
IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
Me 31, DH 30
BFP #2: 5/25/16, MC 6/23/16 (8 weeks), D&C 6/24/16, 2nd D&C for retained tissue and fibroid removal 9/1/16
BFP #3: 12/24/16 EDD 09/04/2017
Me: 28 DH: 35
Dx PCOS May 2015
Baby #1 due 12/7/17
BFP 9/13/16
MMC 10/18/16
D&C 10/20/16
Try not to get discouraged! I have had cycles all over the maps before, with my shortest cycle being 27 days and my longest being 59! I've found that I usually ovulate later around Day 19, but the 59 day cycle I ended up ovulating around Day 47. The next cycle after that super long cycle I ended up getting pregnant with my first (and had a normal 28-30 day cycle).
Some of my charts end up being very easy to read, with very clear temp shifts, but others (like this month) are not as clear and it is definitely frustrating! (Especially when last month's cycle, before we started trying, was so easy to read!)
We're just continuing to try every other day until my temp shift is clear, just so we don't miss our chance this month. I'm not gonna lie - it's exhausting and I'm ready for those crosshairs to show up so we can have a little break!
Also, keep in mind that other factors - like bad/too little sleep - can lower your temps. I've noticed that my temps are much lower on those nights I had a restless sleep or didn't get as much sleep as I usually do.
Good luck to you!
@jen83mn Thank you for the encouragement. If my cycles go long- 47 days, 60 days, I just assume it's an anovulatory cycle because of PCOS. Sounds like it's different for you. We're also going to do EOD until I get that confirmed temp shift.
On a positive note, my CM has changed from watery to more of an EWCM consistency with noticeable stretchiness between my fingers. And I tried so hard to reach my SS cervix and could finally feel with the tip of my finger that it felt soft. Of course I'm not used to feeling my cervix, so it's hard to know for sure. It definitely didn't feel hard.
Me: 28 DH: 35
Dx PCOS May 2015
Baby #1 due 12/7/17
Thanks ladies! You all hit it right on! Finally got the higher temp I was looking for, just took longer than usual to get there!