@endo_mom - thanks! I feel like a lady hits detective. Lol
@reneeannemm - no, I don't have any immediate plans for a progesterone test. Maybe I will ask my OB. He seems to be willing to write up any test that I feel I need. I have always had really nice high post o temps, and usually have really beautiful triphasic charts. I'm just breaking all of the stats. I don't ever have any spotting before AF but I do spot for days at the end. Think it could be low progesterone?
@sp128 I am so sorry for your loss. FX your HCG drops quickly.
@soontobemommahowe I am glad your RE appointment went well. I hope you get results soon and great that you have a plan in place. Yum on you Thanksgiving practice round!
@alemarie1 I am so sorry for your loss. I am not familiar with a molar pregnancy, but I hope your second opinion says 3 months on the bench instead of a year. FX for you.
**TW - Loss & Child mentioned** Me: 40 DH: 47 Married: 10/2015 DSD: 17 BFP #1: 6/2/15, ectopic, metho 7/15 BFP #2: 12/4/15, cp 12/7/15 BFP #3: 8/5/16, MMC discovered 9/1, Misoprostol 9/19 BFP #4: 5/10/17, EDD 1/20/2018 Baby boy born January 12, 2018, 6 lbs 3.3 oz, 20.5 in.
@soontobemommahowe- omg that all sounds amazing- you cooked it all yourself!? Im impressed. Nice that you could have a trial run before the day -so hopefully the day of will go smooth!
@SP128 have you thought about getting the book from your local library? That's what I did with TCOYF. Then you'll know if you want to spend the money on it or not.
@amberruka I looked for it and they did not have it in their network. I'm going to double check just in case I only did the search for my local branch : )
***TW*** Me: 36 DH:35 Married: 7/10/2016 TTC#1 - May 2016 BFP 9/6/2016 - Missed MC 10/20/2016 BFP 5/5/2017 - CP IVF #1 - June 2017 - Transferred 1 fresh 4 AA embryo. 7/9 Beta #1 - 161 Adam Born on 3/18/18
1. I mostly lurk, but have posted a little. TW: I have one LC (2.5) end TW... Missed miscarriage in August at just over 12 weeks
2. Status: WTO. AF is on day 8 and can be done any day please! This is my second period and hoping we'll try this month.
3. Rant: A friend of mine just announced her pregnancy. This will be her fourth baby. She was on BC. It seems so unfair that she gets one she wasn't even trying for and I didn't get to meet mine that I wanted so badly.
It put me in a weird head space. I thought I was doing okay but I'm starting to realize that I'm not back to myself. I found out my professional organization has a member assistance program so I can get some free counselling sessions. I called and set up a consult. I looked up the person they assigned and her bio says she takes a Christian approach. I'm atheist so we'll see how that goes.
4. I'm in Canada so no Black Friday craziness here. I might see what's good online but I tend to leave Christmas shopping to the last minute!
My doctor couldn't help. She had no idea what I was talking about, so I'm taking the next cycle or two off, or possibly more indefinitely than that if my obgyn also has no ideas. Self benching - my progesterone is probably too low for any pregnancy to implant. She did say she'd ask around and consult via email with my obgyn to see if there is something she can do before then. I may not be around a lot again, as I'm going to fill my days with non-TTC stuff in an attempt to not spend every day in the TWW sobbing.
Good luck, everyone!
Renee, 34 + Devon, 29 married 08/13 TTC 09/15 *TW Loss mentioned* BFP 12/15/15 EDD: 08/26/16 MMC discovered 1/25/16 at 9 +3 TTCAL 3/2016 Acupuncture 11/16 Dx December 2016: unexplained January 2017: 50 mg Clomid + TI = BFP #2 01/30/17 Please be a sticky baby! EDD: 10/15/17 Measuring ahead! 10/12/17 Ambrose born on his due date!
@reneeannemm sorry that your dr didn't help at all. Hopefully she and your obgyn will consult and good news will come of it for you. Take care of yourself on your break.
@reneeannemm - I'm so sorry you didn't get any answers. That is so frustrating. Hopefully you can have a relaxing holiday season. I will miss you around here! It's not the same when you're gone :-(
Oh @reneeannemm _ Im so sorry! Have you consulted with an RE or gotten a second opinion from another dr to see if there is any treatment out there? Im sorry Im not very familiar with the issue bur regardless I am sending big hugs to you!
@reneeannemm I'm really sorry that you couldn't find the root cause. I hope as the doctors communicate that they will have a better plan for you. Hoping you find tons of non-TTC things to do in the meantime. Hugs!
I was super hesitant to comment on politics in this safe space of ours, but I've noticed something today and I just want to throw it out there. My husband and I voted for Hillary, so we obviously were disappointed. I got up at my normal time, got dressed, went to work, and got stuff done -- albeit at a slower pace than usual and with plenty of breaks to read the news and stare blankly at the wall. My husband didn't get out of bed until I was almost about to leave. I just talked to him and he hasn't done a lick of work all day. He's mourning. And he's stunned that I can keep carrying on like this despite our mutual shock and fear for the future.
But here's the thing -- I've been living with constant, hour-by-hour pain since they told me my son's heart had stopped beating in mid-July. I've had to grit my teeth and get out of bed and go to work every day with that sadness like a physical presence in the back of my throat. After several cycles TTC without any luck, I am scared that it'll never happen for us, and I live with that fear every moment of every day (and especially during the TWW). And yet life has to go on, so I keep getting out of bed. I force myself to have good days.
I've been thinking today, comparing my husband's reaction to my own, and seeing the same dichotomy played out through Facebook: maybe as women we are somehow just wired to absorb pain better than men. Or maybe we've just become accustomed to it because I know of no woman who is a stranger to pain. I think the pain that the women in this group have endured would break so many men, and yet here we all are, and we're not just soldiering on, we're meeting every day with hope for our futures and love and support for one another.
I'm just really grateful for all of you ladies, who show me every day how strong women truly are. Regardless of politics.
Sorry for the sap, I think AF is on her way and I'm feeling really emotional today.
@migdala I totally agree with you. It's crazy that we are known as a weaker sex when the reality is the opposite. I think we are proof of strength and courage to face the next challenge life brings, especially after a loss.
@migdala So sorry this happened. I've realized that some doctors have absolutely NO people skills. They are great at what they do but terrible at interacting with people. I try to think that maybe they have put most of their focus and attention refining their craft as a doctor while letting their social behavior fall by the wayside.
Happy Friday! I disappeared for a bit, but just wanted to update my status from WTO to...Benched/TTA. After meeting with the RE this week we've decided to jump straight to IVF. We have a few reasons for this: I'm already 39 and FH is 41. Assuming we are lucky enough to have a baby, if we can swing my taking time off from work after a first, I likely won't have the same insurance coverage (it covers two cycles of IVF/Egg retrievals and other related medical expenses at...the same coverage rate as all my other medical expenses) for help to try for a second. Given that we want a second and that I (and my eggs) would be even older by the time we are ready for a second, the prospect of potentially freezing screened embryos from today-ish's eggs for later is appealing, despite the less than encouraging stats. And PGD (for which my insurance is adding coverage for "certain circumstances" in 2017) is a plus. So a little change in direction for us. DH was a little disappointed because he had a good feeling about this month/this weekend, but it feels like sort of a rare opportunity. So we'll see how that goes. If BD-ing on Wednesday didn't get us KU making the plan moot, that is.
@alemarie1 I'm so sorry for your loss. Though every loss sucks - my RE thought mine was on the later side just shy of 12 weeks, I imagine it is even more dreadful having had more time to become attached.
@endo_mom Regarding "safe" stuff, I sort of burnt myself out on looking up every little thing on ewg.org and am waiting to hear back from RE (because I forgot to ask / but the office is closed for the holiday) for some guidance. Vitacost lets you filter products by phthalate-free, paraben free, etc. The Simple Green cleaner with which FH grew up got an "F" from ewg...but some of their other products are rated just fine. Fit Organic laundry detergent is well-rated, and the Seventh Generation powder detergent is fine, but something in the liquid isn't great. Then of course there are other sites with other ratings that conflict...ugh.
@reneeannemm I have been taking ubiquinol (and fish oil, magnesium) along with my prenatals since February - also waiting to hear what RE has to say about supplements. I am sorry that you didn't get answers - I hope the break gives you time to decompress.
@SP128 My libraries didn't have ISWTE electronically or hard copy either, but I agree with @endo_mom that between the two TCOYF is more practical.
@migdala I agree that everyone here is strong - but I also think we sort of have to be because what's the alternative? I just want to recognize that our partners have experienced the same loss though they may show it differently (though perhaps initial reactions vary individually). I know DH hesitated to let himself get excited till we saw the baby/heard her heartbeat at 8w2d. We found out last weekend that some friends of ours who moved away also experienced a loss recently (I think last month like us), and DH felt compelled to reach out to his friend just because it sucks and he could empathize. I guess I'm just trying to say that I very much appreciate this community's strength and support - but our partners are strong too and I'm grateful for mine.
I wish all of you the best of luck this month!
About me: Married 6/18/16 (Me 42, DH 44), TTC #2 ***TW***
Natural BFP 8/10/16 --> mc our NIPT-normal little girl at 11w5d on 10/1/16 As of 12/2016: AMH 1.42, FSH 6.1, AFC ~10 Self-benched Nov-Dec 2016 for IVF #1 Jan-Feb 2017 (OCP, testosterone primed antagonist w/HGH - ER 2/2/17 - 12R, 7M ICSI'd, 3F, 0B) IVF #2 Mar-Apr 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 4/8/17 - 10R, 8M, 8F, 5B, 1 PGS normal) IVF #3 May-Jun 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 6/4/17 - 14R, 5F, 3B, 0 normal) **New RE** IVF #4 Sept 2017 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 9/28/17 - 33R, 18F, 10B, 4 PGS normals!) FET #1 (medicated) of one PGS normal 4AA XX 11/2/17 - Beta #1 11/11/17 (153), Beta #2 11/13/17 (324), mc at 5w1d on 11/19/17 IVF #5 Dec 2017 - Insemination of 9 frozen eggs from 2012 (8F, 1B, 0 normal) Jan 2018 - Natural cycle ERA (normal/receptive) & stimming for IVF #6 Jan-Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/3/18 - 17R, 6M, 4F, 0 blasts) IVF #7 Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/26/18 - 19R, 9M, 9F, 4B, 2 PGS normals) FET #2 Apr 2018 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 4AA- XX 4/5/18 - Beta #1 4/14/18 (67), Beta #2 4/16/18 (231) Rainbow baby girl born 12/16/2018 (via c-section, induced at 39 weeks)
----- TFAS! FET #3 Dec 2019 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 3BB XY 12/16/19 - Beta #1 12/24/19 (139), Beta #2 12/27/19 (482)
2.) Status (WTO, TWW, Benched, etc): WTO, though probably benched for this cycle (see #3).
3.) Rants/ Raves - went to the OB today for a follow up ultrasound since I've still not had a normal AF. Unfortunately there is something really strange about my uterus. The OB doesn't even know what it is. She had me check HCG today, so we'll see where that's at, but it's not looking like a uterus that would be receptive to implantation/pregnancy at this point.
4.) GTKY - What are your Black Friday plans? Are you a crazy shopper or do you stay home and avoid the crowds? Avoid. Avoid. Avoid! Stay home (or go for a hike), eat leftovers, snuggle kitties.
*TW*
TTC#1 - 6.3.16 BFP#1 - 7.1.16, (mo-di twins + singleton) due 3.15.17 MC singleton - 7.13.16 - 5w MMC identical twins - 8.5.16 - 8w+2d Misoprostol 4x D&C - 9.12.16 Hysteroscopy - 11.21.16 - Retained tissue filling half of uterus removed, blocked left tube, benched for 2 cycles, on estrogen/progesterone for 30 days HSG - 2.7.17 - Asherman's Syndrome. Both tubes open. Hysteroscopy 2.13.17 - Incomplete adhesiolysis for Asherman's, benched & on estrogen/progesterone for 30 days. At least two more surgeries needed... Hysteroscopy 3.21.17 - Adhesiolysis for Asherman's, benched & on estrogen/progesterone for 30 days. TTCAL #1: 4.24.17 Hysteroscopy 5.23.17 - Scars reformed. Adhesiolysis. Unsure what to do next... Fertility acupuncture - started 6.13.17
@artemis618 Thanks for the insight on the green products. FX for your IVF cycle. I hope this new direction will bring the results you want. Also really important to think about a potential second baby. Sometimes the TTC journey makes you see everything short term and it helps to think about the bigger picture.
Re: **TTCAL 11/7 Check-in**
@reneeannemm - no, I don't have any immediate plans for a progesterone test. Maybe I will ask my OB. He seems to be willing to write up any test that I feel I need. I have always had really nice high post o temps, and usually have really beautiful triphasic charts. I'm just breaking all of the stats. I don't ever have any spotting before AF but I do spot for days at the end. Think it could be low progesterone?
@sparrowmomma24 Congrats on quitting smoking!
@tscalei - So sorry for the BFN; I'm glad it wasn't as hard on you this cycle. Maybe next month for both of us.
@laeberge3 DH and I left around 5am last year. There were no crowds and we were able to get everything I was after. It was actually really nice.
@moonlady - I am very sorry for your loss.
@sp128 I am so sorry for your loss. FX your HCG drops quickly.
@soontobemommahowe I am glad your RE appointment went well. I hope you get results soon and great that you have a plan in place. Yum on you Thanksgiving practice round!
@alemarie1 I am so sorry for your loss. I am not familiar with a molar pregnancy, but I hope your second opinion says 3 months on the bench instead of a year. FX for you.
Me: 40 DH: 47
Married: 10/2015
DSD: 17
BFP #1: 6/2/15, ectopic, metho 7/15
BFP #2: 12/4/15, cp 12/7/15
BFP #3: 8/5/16, MMC discovered 9/1, Misoprostol 9/19
BFP #4: 5/10/17, EDD 1/20/2018
Baby boy born January 12, 2018, 6 lbs 3.3 oz, 20.5 in.
CP 1/25/16 4.5 weeks, developed Graves' disease
Me: 36 DH:35
Married: 7/10/2016
TTC#1 - May 2016
BFP 9/6/2016 - Missed MC 10/20/2016
BFP 5/5/2017 - CP
IVF #1 - June 2017 - Transferred 1 fresh 4 AA embryo. 7/9 Beta #1 - 161
2. Status: WTO. AF is on day 8 and can be done any day please! This is my second period and hoping we'll try this month.
3. Rant: A friend of mine just announced her pregnancy. This will be her fourth baby. She was on BC. It seems so unfair that she gets one she wasn't even trying for and I didn't get to meet mine that I wanted so badly.
It put me in a weird head space. I thought I was doing okay but I'm starting to realize that I'm not back to myself. I found out my professional organization has a member assistance program so I can get some free counselling sessions. I called and set up a consult. I looked up the person they assigned and her bio says she takes a Christian approach. I'm atheist so we'll see how that goes.
4. I'm in Canada so no Black Friday craziness here. I might see what's good online but I tend to leave Christmas shopping to the last minute!
Good luck, everyone!
TTC 09/15
*TW Loss mentioned*
BFP 12/15/15 EDD: 08/26/16
MMC discovered 1/25/16 at 9 +3
TTCAL 3/2016
Acupuncture 11/16
Dx December 2016: unexplained
January 2017: 50 mg Clomid + TI =
BFP #2 01/30/17 Please be a sticky baby!
EDD: 10/15/17 Measuring ahead! 10/12/17
Ambrose born on his due date!
Me: 40 DH: 47
Married: 10/2015
DSD: 17
BFP #1: 6/2/15, ectopic, metho 7/15
BFP #2: 12/4/15, cp 12/7/15
BFP #3: 8/5/16, MMC discovered 9/1, Misoprostol 9/19
BFP #4: 5/10/17, EDD 1/20/2018
Baby boy born January 12, 2018, 6 lbs 3.3 oz, 20.5 in.
Married 10/12
DS 11/14
Ectopic 2/16
PCOS/Ovulation Dysfunction 11/16
IUI x 3- BFN
Laparoscopy 3/17 Endo and tubal damage
IVF- 4/17- 40 eggs retrieved, 10 blasts, 7 pgs tested embryos
FET- 6/17- BFP!
Due Feb 15, 2017
BFP: 12/16/16 => DD born 08/27/2017
But here's the thing -- I've been living with constant, hour-by-hour pain since they told me my son's heart had stopped beating in mid-July. I've had to grit my teeth and get out of bed and go to work every day with that sadness like a physical presence in the back of my throat. After several cycles TTC without any luck, I am scared that it'll never happen for us, and I live with that fear every moment of every day (and especially during the TWW). And yet life has to go on, so I keep getting out of bed. I force myself to have good days.
I've been thinking today, comparing my husband's reaction to my own, and seeing the same dichotomy played out through Facebook: maybe as women we are somehow just wired to absorb pain better than men. Or maybe we've just become accustomed to it because I know of no woman who is a stranger to pain. I think the pain that the women in this group have endured would break so many men, and yet here we all are, and we're not just soldiering on, we're meeting every day with hope for our futures and love and support for one another.
I'm just really grateful for all of you ladies, who show me every day how strong women truly are. Regardless of politics.
Sorry for the sap, I think AF is on her way and I'm feeling really emotional today.
BFP: 12/16/16 => DD born 08/27/2017
@alemarie1 I'm so sorry for your loss. Though every loss sucks - my RE thought mine was on the later side just shy of 12 weeks, I imagine it is even more dreadful having had more time to become attached.
@endo_mom Regarding "safe" stuff, I sort of burnt myself out on looking up every little thing on ewg.org and am waiting to hear back from RE (because I forgot to ask / but the office is closed for the holiday) for some guidance. Vitacost lets you filter products by phthalate-free, paraben free, etc. The Simple Green cleaner with which FH grew up got an "F" from ewg...but some of their other products are rated just fine. Fit Organic laundry detergent is well-rated, and the Seventh Generation powder detergent is fine, but something in the liquid isn't great. Then of course there are other sites with other ratings that conflict...ugh.
@reneeannemm I have been taking ubiquinol (and fish oil, magnesium) along with my prenatals since February - also waiting to hear what RE has to say about supplements. I am sorry that you didn't get answers - I hope the break gives you time to decompress.
@SP128 My libraries didn't have ISWTE electronically or hard copy either, but I agree with @endo_mom that between the two TCOYF is more practical.
@migdala I agree that everyone here is strong - but I also think we sort of have to be because what's the alternative? I just want to recognize that our partners have experienced the same loss though they may show it differently (though perhaps initial reactions vary individually). I know DH hesitated to let himself get excited till we saw the baby/heard her heartbeat at 8w2d. We found out last weekend that some friends of ours who moved away also experienced a loss recently (I think last month like us), and DH felt compelled to reach out to his friend just because it sucks and he could empathize. I guess I'm just trying to say that I very much appreciate this community's strength and support - but our partners are strong too and I'm grateful for mine.
I wish all of you the best of luck this month!
Married 6/18/16 (Me 42, DH 44), TTC #2
***TW***
As of 12/2016: AMH 1.42, FSH 6.1, AFC ~10
Self-benched Nov-Dec 2016 for
IVF #1 Jan-Feb 2017 (OCP, testosterone primed antagonist w/HGH - ER 2/2/17 - 12R, 7M ICSI'd, 3F, 0B)
IVF #2 Mar-Apr 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 4/8/17 - 10R, 8M, 8F, 5B, 1 PGS normal)
IVF #3 May-Jun 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 6/4/17 - 14R, 5F, 3B, 0 normal)
**New RE**
IVF #4 Sept 2017 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 9/28/17 - 33R, 18F, 10B, 4 PGS normals!)
FET #1 (medicated) of one PGS normal 4AA XX 11/2/17 - Beta #1 11/11/17 (153), Beta #2 11/13/17 (324), mc at 5w1d on 11/19/17
IVF #5 Dec 2017 - Insemination of 9 frozen eggs from 2012 (8F, 1B, 0 normal)
Jan 2018 - Natural cycle ERA (normal/receptive) & stimming for
IVF #6 Jan-Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/3/18 - 17R, 6M, 4F, 0 blasts)
IVF #7 Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/26/18 - 19R, 9M, 9F, 4B, 2 PGS normals)
FET #2 Apr 2018 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 4AA- XX 4/5/18 - Beta #1 4/14/18 (67), Beta #2 4/16/18 (231)
Rainbow baby girl born 12/16/2018 (via c-section, induced at 39 weeks)
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TFAS!
FET #3 Dec 2019 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 3BB XY 12/16/19 - Beta #1 12/24/19 (139), Beta #2 12/27/19 (482)
CP 1/25/16 4.5 weeks, developed Graves' disease
TTC#1 - 6.3.16
BFP#1 - 7.1.16, (mo-di twins + singleton) due 3.15.17
MC singleton - 7.13.16 - 5w
MMC identical twins - 8.5.16 - 8w+2d
Misoprostol 4x
D&C - 9.12.16
Hysteroscopy - 11.21.16 - Retained tissue filling half of uterus removed, blocked left tube, benched for 2 cycles, on estrogen/progesterone for 30 days
HSG - 2.7.17 - Asherman's Syndrome. Both tubes open.
Hysteroscopy 2.13.17 - Incomplete adhesiolysis for Asherman's, benched & on estrogen/progesterone for 30 days. At least two more surgeries needed...
Hysteroscopy 3.21.17 - Adhesiolysis for Asherman's, benched & on estrogen/progesterone for 30 days.
TTCAL #1: 4.24.17
Hysteroscopy 5.23.17 - Scars reformed. Adhesiolysis. Unsure what to do next...
Fertility acupuncture - started 6.13.17
Married 6/18/16 (Me 42, DH 44), TTC #2
***TW***
As of 12/2016: AMH 1.42, FSH 6.1, AFC ~10
Self-benched Nov-Dec 2016 for
IVF #1 Jan-Feb 2017 (OCP, testosterone primed antagonist w/HGH - ER 2/2/17 - 12R, 7M ICSI'd, 3F, 0B)
IVF #2 Mar-Apr 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 4/8/17 - 10R, 8M, 8F, 5B, 1 PGS normal)
IVF #3 May-Jun 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 6/4/17 - 14R, 5F, 3B, 0 normal)
**New RE**
IVF #4 Sept 2017 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 9/28/17 - 33R, 18F, 10B, 4 PGS normals!)
FET #1 (medicated) of one PGS normal 4AA XX 11/2/17 - Beta #1 11/11/17 (153), Beta #2 11/13/17 (324), mc at 5w1d on 11/19/17
IVF #5 Dec 2017 - Insemination of 9 frozen eggs from 2012 (8F, 1B, 0 normal)
Jan 2018 - Natural cycle ERA (normal/receptive) & stimming for
IVF #6 Jan-Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/3/18 - 17R, 6M, 4F, 0 blasts)
IVF #7 Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/26/18 - 19R, 9M, 9F, 4B, 2 PGS normals)
FET #2 Apr 2018 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 4AA- XX 4/5/18 - Beta #1 4/14/18 (67), Beta #2 4/16/18 (231)
Rainbow baby girl born 12/16/2018 (via c-section, induced at 39 weeks)
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TFAS!
FET #3 Dec 2019 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 3BB XY 12/16/19 - Beta #1 12/24/19 (139), Beta #2 12/27/19 (482)
BFP: 12/16/16 => DD born 08/27/2017