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Re: Structured Threads Debate

  • hjphillipshjphillips member
    abmommy15 said:
    riverraine said:
    Don't forget BF vs. FF and multiple baby showers.

    Nah, those are all boring and predictable. I'm more about the random topics that get people fired up.
    On my last bmb we had this chick lose her mind because she received a formula sample and therefore formula companies were trying to sabotage her BF plan.  Even boring topics can be pretty entertaining haha
    Oh my god that was amazing. 
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    Elyse1384 said:
    How many precincts do we have reporting?  Maybe we can build a wall between the board(er) police and the free folk.  What if the losing party doesn't concede?  

    Oh wait sorry... wrong election.  Given how long this has been going on I was convinced it was November.  Can we be done with this now for the love of all that is holy????
    You can move on if you want, by all means, nobody is making you discuss this anymore. If other people still want to chime in, I say let them. 
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  • Elyse1384Elyse1384 member
    edited October 2016
    hjphillips said:
    Elyse1384 said:
    How many precincts do we have reporting?  Maybe we can build a wall between the board(er) police and the free folk.  What if the losing party doesn't concede?  

    Oh wait sorry... wrong election.  Given how long this has been going on I was convinced it was November.  Can we be done with this now for the love of all that is holy????
    You can move on if you want, by all means, nobody is making you discuss this anymore. If other people still want to chime in, I say let them. 
    Oh good do you have a new POV to offer?  Perhaps an alternative approach to the matter?  We're not getting anywhere.  Despite a majority expressing a desire for organization on shared topics/events, albeit with room for individual threads when warranted, some of the ladies just won't accept it.  We literally have the same group of people talking in circles here. I'm far from the first person to express how exhausting this topic is becoming and a preference to move on to fun things ("agree to disagree"), but you've opted to zero in on my calling out that fact merely because you're upset I disagreed with you elsewhere.  Well isn't that mature.  Here is the problem... Despite a poll about board structure, the ladies who share your POV are flat out saying they don't seem to give a shit regardless and are going to do what they want anyway.  So tell me... what is the point in discussing it further?    And BTW... I don't actually see you discussing the topic of board structure in recent posts on this thread either. 

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  • Assiram42Assiram42 member
    hjphillips said:
    Elyse1384 said:
    How many precincts do we have reporting?  Maybe we can build a wall between the board(er) police and the free folk.  What if the losing party doesn't concede?  

    Oh wait sorry... wrong election.  Given how long this has been going on I was convinced it was November.  Can we be done with this now for the love of all that is holy????
    You can move on if you want, by all means, nobody is making you discuss this anymore. If other people still want to chime in, I say let them. 
    You are way too literal. Or can't read snark.

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  • jackiemarie1989-2jackiemarie1989-2 member
    abmommy15 said:
    riverraine said:
    Don't forget BF vs. FF and multiple baby showers.

    Nah, those are all boring and predictable. I'm more about the random topics that get people fired up.
    On my last bmb we had this chick lose her mind because she received a formula sample and therefore formula companies were trying to sabotage her BF plan.  Even boring topics can be pretty entertaining haha
    We're you in April 15? Because this sounds familiar.
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  • abmommy15abmommy15 member
    JackieMarie1989 said:
    abmommy15 said:
    riverraine said:
    Don't forget BF vs. FF and multiple baby showers.

    Nah, those are all boring and predictable. I'm more about the random topics that get people fired up.
    On my last bmb we had this chick lose her mind because she received a formula sample and therefore formula companies were trying to sabotage her BF plan.  Even boring topics can be pretty entertaining haha
    We're you in April 15? Because this sounds familiar.
    I was in August but it wouldn't surprise me if it's happened more than once.  Those evil formula companies just can't be stopped...
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  • MotherofDragons MotherofDragons member
    @JackieMarie1989 @abmommy15 I have heard this on multiple occasions. 
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  • hjphillipshjphillips member
    Assiram42 said:
    hjphillips said:
    Elyse1384 said:
    How many precincts do we have reporting?  Maybe we can build a wall between the board(er) police and the free folk.  What if the losing party doesn't concede?  

    Oh wait sorry... wrong election.  Given how long this has been going on I was convinced it was November.  Can we be done with this now for the love of all that is holy????
    You can move on if you want, by all means, nobody is making you discuss this anymore. If other people still want to chime in, I say let them. 
    You are way too literal. Or can't read snark.

    I'm actually just really tired of her negativity. The best way to let something die is to leave it alone, so if you want it to die, I would suggest just that.

    Elyse1384 said:
    hjphillips said:
    Elyse1384 said:
    How many precincts do we have reporting?  Maybe we can build a wall between the board(er) police and the free folk.  What if the losing party doesn't concede?  

    Oh wait sorry... wrong election.  Given how long this has been going on I was convinced it was November.  Can we be done with this now for the love of all that is holy????
    You can move on if you want, by all means, nobody is making you discuss this anymore. If other people still want to chime in, I say let them. 
    Oh good do you have a new POV to offer?  Perhaps an alternative approach to the matter?  We're not getting anywhere.  Despite a majority expressing a desire for organization on shared topics/events, albeit with room for individual threads when warranted, some of the ladies just won't accept it.  We literally have the same group of people talking in circles here. I'm far from the first person to express how exhausting this topic is becoming and a preference to move on to fun things ("agree to disagree"), but you've opted to zero in on my calling out that fact merely because you're upset I disagreed with you elsewhere.  Well isn't that mature.  Here is the problem... Despite a poll about board structure, the ladies who share your POV are flat out saying they don't seem to give a shit regardless and are going to do what they want anyway.  So tell me... what is the point in discussing it further?    And BTW... I don't actually see you discussing the topic of board structure in recent posts on this thread either. 

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    Sorry that you saw it that way? You just seemed to want this to die, yet you keep commenting on things like this. It's just frustrating. I didn't mean to call you out, but you are being a little immature. Thanks for making fun of me for not being able to read your tone. Not hurtful at all. Don't bother replying because I won't be commenting again, because I really do want this topic to die. Have a nice day, I really do mean that. 
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  • Mashunya425Mashunya425 member
    mamaelle27 said:
    I'm all for some structure, but I don't think people should be told they should have posted somewhere else, because it may deter someone from posting again and that person may really need our support. Not everyone has the time to review all the posts and topics before they post, and I personally am still willing to read their post and respond if I have helpful information. If you personally are not willing to do that, then don't respond to that post. 

    As an aside, would anyone be up for something like a Meal Plan Monday? We talked about meal planning once a while back and it was very helpful. Also, I was thinking maybe Thankful Thursday? I think between Monday B*fest, WTF Wednesday, UO Thursday and FFFC we have a lot of negativity and could benefit from making one day positive. Just an idea.

    Overall, I think it's early and still hard to tell how relationships will play out, but I think we all have the same goals of making some friends and supporting each other through our pregnancies and beyond, so perhaps we can just all work toward that goal.  :)
    I think Meal Plan and Thankful threads are a great idea.
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  • riverrainezriverrainez member
    edited October 2016
    Xath said:
    I don't care about thread organization, but here's my one suggested rule:  if you're going to reference another thread with fantastic drama, post a link with that $#€£.  It's like a giant tease, and I'm far too lazy to go searching through the archives.  Cater to my train-wreck loving laziness, dangit!
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  • swanbroonerswanbrooner member
    @mamaelle27

    Any and all group conversation topics have always been welcomed by all members! The list in the guidelines thread is just suggestions, not the end all be all by any means! :)
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  • lovesclimbinglovesclimbing member
    I like specific threads. I haven't read any of the pregnancy chat threads recently because I do not have time to read through seven or ten pages of random stuff that I don't relate to. But someone posts "morning sickness so bad today," it will probably be shorter and I will click on that to commiserate. 

    I don't mind organized threads, but I also think one-off posts are great too. There are no organized posts and people post random stuff all the time on the TK chit chat board. There's no problem with there being SO MANY that stuff gets bumped off the page fast. It's NBD. I think the worry that the organized threads will get bumped off the page fast is making a mountain out of a molehill. 

    Here's a thought. Maybe if the organized threads are being bumped off the front page, it's for a good reason. If people aren't posting in them, why should they stay on the first page? 
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  • Elyse1384Elyse1384 member
    @hjphillips - Well I will reply because like it or not, we're going to be here together until June (I hope).  I comment where things are brought up that I have an opinion about.  This is a thread about board structure so it seemed reasonable to discuss my opinion on the subject, but it quickly became apparent that we (the BMB) are not getting anywhere. I then tried to joke around in hopes we could move on to bigger and better things, but you got on me despite 1) I was just trying to drop it despite brief polling seeming to align with my POV and 2) I wasn't the first to express how this is going no where. You seem to have issue with me for whatever reason.  I don't take issue with you or the ladies with a different POV than me on this or any issue that will undoubtedly arise.  I genuinely want to see the members of J17 form strong bonds and have a fun, healthy 9 months.  That is why I keep chiming in with my POV for board structure.  I truly believe it could help the majority as I have witnessed a few varying formats.  I'm not doing it to be annoying or "stubborn".  I'm sharing my experience and opinion as you are.  I am not mandating anything nor am I trying to force anyone anywhere.  I have a sarcastic and lighthearted personality despite how some are interpreting my replies/tone.  Furthermore, my reply was not making fun of you.  My reply to you was in defense of myself as you called me out for trying to be lighthearted and agreeing with others that we should just let it be. I was however making fun of the looming election in Nov.  That's not mocking you, but I'm truly sorry if you interpreted it that way and were hurt by it.  
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  • thatlauragirlthatlauragirl member
    Just throwing my $0.02 in. I did indicate in the rules post that I'm going to post when I feel like I have something I want to talk about. And of course I'll make sure I don't already see another post about it first. But I don't want to have to be afraid of posting because someone is going to jump on me for not putting it in a discussion thread.

    What Ashley.G wrote above made me kind of sad: here's a first time poster here wanting to get involved but afraid because she doesn't want to make a mistake by posting something "wrong". I wish she felt more comfortable. I wish there wasn't policing of threads.

    Maybe I'm wrong, but I still think this will organically work itself out with time. I really hope so. My September '10 mamas are still some of my dearest friends and we keep in touch daily. My November '16 mamas are still a huge source of support for me even after my loss. I want everyone to have the same experience.

    Seems like the majority of us are fine with structured threads but are also fine with individual stuff. Can't we just roll with this?

    I'm reserving my angst for just trying to survive these next two months.
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  • jackiemarie1989-2jackiemarie1989-2 member
    @Mother0fDragons I thought maybe it was a certain someone who was an admin of a certain fb group...and yeah I wouldn't be surprised if this happened more than once
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  • swanbroonerswanbrooner member
    edited October 2016
    Would trying a daily Pregnancy Chatter/Questions thread and also a daily Random Chatter be a good starting point? I'd just like to find something that works and addresses the complaints. 


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  • lmc929lmc929 member
    @swanbrooner I think daily posts would be a good way to meet everyone's issues. They'll be shorter, direct some of the one off threads, and still create a good space for us to all hold a conversation. I like knowing where people are talking without having to click through ten different posts about the same thing. Everyone is nauseous, everyone is emotional.

    The talking to your boss post was a perfect example of a great one off thread that is totally merited. 



    Nobody is trying to police the board so much as focus the conversations so we can all be as involved as possible with the time we do have to be on TB each day. 


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  • Elyse1384Elyse1384 member
    lmc929 said:
    @swanbrooner I think daily posts would be a good way to meet everyone's issues. They'll be shorter, direct some of the one off threads, and still create a good space for us to all hold a conversation. I like knowing where people are talking without having to click through ten different posts about the same thing. Everyone is nauseous, everyone is emotional.

    The talking to your boss post was a perfect example of a great one off thread that is totally merited. 



    Nobody is trying to police the board so much as focus the conversations so we can all be as involved as possible with the time we do have to be on TB each day. 


    I think that makes complete sense and seems to align with the poll results if nothing else.  I definitely think there were some great one off topics today that are perfect examples of the non structured flow that will (and should) always have a place (eg the low heartbeat thread and when to tell woke thread).   Now time for some other hot mess debates.  
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    @xath te amo

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  • abmommy15abmommy15 member
    I find it interesting that so many comment that the "when to tell work" thread is a great example of a thread that should be posted on its own....and yet the first commenter disagrees.  Regardless of what the topic is there will always be someone who thinks it belongs on some other thread.   The comprise that would probably satisfy the majority is have whatever structured threads are wanted but it's not necessary to comment on individual threads with "this belongs on another thread". There are obvious individual threads that will be flamed but for the most use the search to make sure you aren't the 25th poster on a topic and then go for it.  
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  • Elyse1384Elyse1384 member
    abmommy15 said:
    I find it interesting that so many comment that the "when to tell work" thread is a great example of a thread that should be posted on its own....and yet the first commenter disagrees.  Regardless of what the topic is there will always be someone who thinks it belongs on some other thread.   The comprise that would probably satisfy the majority is have whatever structured threads are wanted but it's not necessary to comment on individual threads with "this belongs on another thread". There are obvious individual threads that will be flamed but for the most use the search to make sure you aren't the 25th poster on a topic and then go for it.  
    Well I think here is the problem.  @mrlight commented to that OP that the topic was just discussed in a different thread and there were a lot of responses that would potentially give OP more info.  She then went on to answer her question and was very welcoming.  You are interpreting that as "this belongs elsewhere" which naturally will lead you to feel policed, but that is NOT what was happening.  I too have answered an OP and helpfully directed to where there are also more answers.  You're probably reading way too deep into helpful responses and making assumptions about a responder's intent based on their previously expressed preference for some level of org.  The topic itself does warrant its own thread though.
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  • swanbroonerswanbrooner member
    @Elyse1384 That's what I was thinking. I was trying to come up with a solution that matched the poll results, but also addressed the majority of the complaints about the long threads. It seems backwards to have this lengthy debate without making changes suggested by the discussion from both sides.

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  • abmommy15abmommy15 member
    Elyse1384 said:
    abmommy15 said:
    I find it interesting that so many comment that the "when to tell work" thread is a great example of a thread that should be posted on its own....and yet the first commenter disagrees.  Regardless of what the topic is there will always be someone who thinks it belongs on some other thread.   The comprise that would probably satisfy the majority is have whatever structured threads are wanted but it's not necessary to comment on individual threads with "this belongs on another thread". There are obvious individual threads that will be flamed but for the most use the search to make sure you aren't the 25th poster on a topic and then go for it.  
    Well I think here is the problem.  @mrlight commented to that OP that the topic was just discussed in a different thread and there were a lot of responses that would potentially give OP more info.  She then went on to answer her question and was very welcoming.  You are interpreting that as "this belongs elsewhere" which naturally will lead you to feel policed, but that is NOT what was happening.  I too have answered an OP and helpfully directed to where there are also more answers.  You're probably reading way too deep into helpful responses and making assumptions about a responder's intent based on their previously expressed preference for some level of org.  The topic itself does warrant its own thread though.
    While I get what you are saying it would also be helpful to look at it from the other point of view.  Instead of saying you are interpreting it wrong instead look at all the people commenting that they are hesitant to post and why.  I personally haven't felt policed and haven't really started a thread but lots of people do and that's where most of us are coming from.  Nobody is saying that there isn't a place for structure but when someone posts a thread and it's met with "this is a great topic for whatever thread" it makes them hesitate to post in the future.  Even if you feel you are being helpful it's not always taken that way.  
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  • delujm0delujm0 member
    itsfine said:
    Zero fucks given here. Although, If you don't have the common sense to use the search function or browse before posting then I think you should just go on and GTFO.
    This is basically where I am.  I just ignore the one offs with titles that sound like something I don't care about or have already discussed elsewhere.  but multiple threads on the exact same topic annoy me big time.
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  • Assiram42Assiram42 member
    If @abmommy15 you haven't felt personally policed then I'm not sure why you're so vested. None of the posters who have been 'policed' are even speaking up. You are now assuming how other posters have felt when being redirected. There have been several individual posts and they've received honest, helpful answers from many of the posters who are 'against' individual posts.  No one has been flamed, some have been redirected.  

    At at the end of the day, not a single person said 'don't make individual posts!' It's simply just a preference to keep things organized.  Clearly there are still individual posts happening.  Those people are either oblivious, or just don't care and post whatever they want. And that's their perogative, people will comment or they won't and that's their perogative.

    this is all really kind of silly and being beaten to death.  Things will fall where they may and we will all go on to hopefully have healthy babies and laugh about this in 7+ months.


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  • thatlauragirlthatlauragirl member
    berg said:
    So how about that baseball game last night?  Anyone?


    I'm a Cubbies fan so last night was rough!!! I know it's just Game 1, but I've got a bad feeling.

    On the bright side, I fell asleep before it was over (thanks, pregnancy exhaustion!) so that took some of the sting out of it.
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    @berg phenomenal use of the pivot gif  :D


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  • neludeluneludelu member
    abmommy15 said:
    riverraine said:
    Don't forget BF vs. FF and multiple baby showers.

    Nah, those are all boring and predictable. I'm more about the random topics that get people fired up.
    On my last bmb we had this chick lose her mind because she received a formula sample and therefore formula companies were trying to sabotage her BF plan.  Even boring topics can be pretty entertaining haha
    Ohhhh I remember her! The postal worker had the never to bring the package to her front porch so it didn't get caught in the rain. 
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  • bergberg member
    Thanks @claireCF!  ;)
    I'm so sorry for the loss of Game 1 @thatlauragirl!  As a Red Sox fan I'm partial to both teams (Terry and Nap vs Tito and Lester) but I have to say I am pulling a little more for the Cubbies. 
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  • Elyse1384Elyse1384 member
    edited October 2016
    I'm with @berg on this.  As a Red Sox fan, I am pulling for Cubbies fans to end their WS championship drought and break the curse.  Now more a warning...should that happen things are just never quite the same again.  Queue bandwagon fans and a little bit of the edge is lost, but soooooo worth it.

    Edit: Words are a struggle today
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