I guess I've never really had one that poops during feedings (or very soon after)... Now that I think about it mine are those kids who poop a tremendous amount only a few times a week! And I do what @DiFazette says... the diaper change wakes them up enough feed. Maybe my kids are the exception in this case.
And that brings up another topic... while counting wet diapers is super important, sometimes they won't poop daily... sometimes that's totally normal (in my babies cases it is) and sometimes it isn't. One of mine would only poop once a week ...for as long as she nursed. We literally had to stay home that day it was such an insane amount of poop! Blow outs were common with this child and really pretty much all of mine. She wasn't fussy or troubled in the least about it... it was just how she processed breast milk... nice and slow.
It's probably not that she processed slow - that long would indicate a bigger issue - it's that BM is so efficient that there isn't any (or very little) waste to be produced. It's very common for EBF babies to go up to 2 weeks without a BM.
I just remembered this- (may not necessarily be for newborn stage, but a little older)- when rocking baby to sleep- DO NOT LOOK AT THEIR FACE! For my daughter this was sooooo stimulating and delayed the sleep process so much until we figured it out....
@Toller so true!!! I didn't know with my first, she wouldn't go to sleep (as I stared at her cuteness). Then learned it before having DD2, it made a huge difference. Even now, if my kids are in my bed, I turn the other way and they fall asleep way faster.
Question! For diapers (we're doing disposable), do I need to buy different ones for at night?
I see that Target has a GC deal with diaper purchases, and was going to go this week and get at least one thing of NB Pampers swaddlers and another Size 1 in probably the Pampers Baby Dry. But, saw they also have swaddlers overnights. So confusing.
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@Kacie209 I never used overnights. IMO, they're especially unnecessary for newborns. They wake up so often to feed in the beginning that they're changed just as often at night as in daytime.
@Kacie209 we didn't need overnights until babe was much older. I think not until size 4. By then their bladders hold much more and they seem to let it all out at once.
Question! For diapers (we're doing disposable), do I need to buy different ones for at night?
I see that Target has a GC deal with diaper purchases, and was going to go this week and get at least one thing of NB Pampers swaddlers and another Size 1 in probably the Pampers Baby Dry. But, saw they also have swaddlers overnights. So confusing.
Agreed that overnights aren't necessary until much older. Baby wakes too often initially to need overnights. DS was 2 and in size 3 or 4 before we needed them. Now, at age 3, I wish they had something like super overnights because he often leaks even with overnights. UGH!
Ok, I don't think this has been mentioned anywhere else but apologies if I just missed it! Can anyone tell me the rule about babies and wearing winter coats and/or snow suits while in the car seat?! I know I've heard that it's a no no, but can't remember exactly why. I'm only asking bc my MIL just bought us a super cute snowsuit for our little guy, which was so nice of her, but it's a 3-6 month size and he's due 12/3. I'm wondering if we will actually get any use out of it if it can't be used to just bundle him up and stick in the car while going somewhere? I'm certainly not planning on taking him sledding or anything wild haha so just curious!
@mforinger it's because they are thick and yiu can't buckle them in tight enough. If in an accident the forces would be able to compress the fabric and then the baby would be too loose in the seat...can be thrown out or hurt worse.
We would put dd1 in a heavy coat in the car seat AFTER we arrived if we were gonna be somewhere cold for a while. Just walking around in the stroller (xmas lights, running races, going on walks) I felt was ok. Don't know if other people would though. But anytime in the car we put her in in lighter clothes then blankets or dropped the jacket over her.
On the size issue: I always used 1 size up for winter coats than what DD was in for normal clothes. They are layered on top of other clothes and honestly easier to get on when a size up. So you may get some good use.
We never used overnight diapers. But DD never peed much during the night and now is staying dry mother nights. She's only 27 months so maybe if she wasn't potty training it would be a bigger issue at this age or coming up. But I didn't find them necessary and we never once had a leaked diaper.....DH forgot to put one on her when she was about 12 months old...that made a mess...but different problem haha
@sourlemon thanks that totally makes sense! That is true too that a size bigger will probably be easier since he'll have layers on. It will really be cold where we live so I'm hoping we'll be able to use it, and I never even thought about putting it on him after arriving somewhere so that's a great idea too, may have to do that when we go picking a Christmas tree!
@mforinger I'm in MN- and last baby was born in January so I know about the cold! @sourlemon is spot on about safety. It actually easiest when they are small because they sleep and you can just leave them in the carrier with the cover (shower cap style). I'm sure your baby will still be super sleepy around Christmas time, you probably won't even want to take them out of the carrier!
1. I was organizing baby clothes this weekend and accidentally put all 0-3 and 3-6 months together. I was going to separate them but a lot of the Carter stuff just says 3 months. Is it 0-3 or 3-6?
2. Swaddling/sleep sacks - do you use this just at night or anytime they are sleeping? Also, do you unswaddle when they wake up to nurse?
@kbduke I found that Carters clothes fit the closest to Ls actual age. So the 3 months would fit him from about 2-5 months or so.
For sleep sacks, we used them at night or after a bath/bedtime as part of the routine. For swaddling, L still loves to be swaddled but would never nurse while swaddled.
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On the topic of baby clothes sizes... my 18 month old still has a pair of 6-9 month pants that he wears. But then he also wears some 2T. We have a thick fleece sleeper for outside that is 0-3 months for this new one. It has fold back hands and feet and with them folded back, it only just barely is too small for DS.
@kbduke it is my understanding that 3 month clothes should fit UNTIL 3 months, etc. So really, 3 month is 0-3 month. 6 month is 3-6 months. Carter's has sizing by pounds and length on their website. It's such a craps shoot to be honest. Certain brands you size down (for me Gap and Gymboree were huge) other brands I would size up (Babies R Us brand or Carter's discount line from Target -Just one something I think). Carter's I've found to be very consistent in terms of transition from one size to the next.
@slartybartfast DS is 3.5 and is wearing 18-24 month shorts today and I just had to put aside a 3T shirt he's grown out of this weekend. It really does keep you on your toes.
FTM question - What should we stock in terms of infant medicine cabinet? I've heard a lot of good things about gripe water. Infant Ibuprofen and/or Tylenol? Magic brand of diaper rash cream? Figure these are things I should probably have before it's 2am and we need something...
FTM question - What should we stock in terms of infant medicine cabinet? I've heard a lot of good things about gripe water. Infant Ibuprofen and/or Tylenol? Magic brand of diaper rash cream? Figure these are things I should probably have before it's 2am and we need something...
Diaper Cream: Triple Paste. Its the shiz. I've nannied, I've got 2 kids, and owned a daycare. Trust me. Its the best at preventing and curing diaper rashes. I only use it when I see baby has a little red butt starting up.
FTM question - What should we stock in terms of infant medicine cabinet? I've heard a lot of good things about gripe water. Infant Ibuprofen and/or Tylenol? Magic brand of diaper rash cream? Figure these are things I should probably have before it's 2am and we need something...
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Ibuprofen isn't given until 6m+, so I wouldn't worry about that. I would keep infant motrin for sure. We were fine with normal Desitin for diaper rashes. Other than that, we didn't use much with DS.
@tinattt23 We had nothing when DD1 was born except a few types of diaper cream. After a while you figure out what you need and what works for your kiddo...but there are some things we bought for this baby:
Gas drops. gripe water. infant tylenol. saline drops/spray.
thermometer (we use a forehead one because babies dont like to sit still long enough for the mouth ones).
teething tabs ***(i believe these have been recalled and may not be sold as of last week. I bought some a few weeks ago thank goodness, and totally plan to use them).
Also think about how you are going to administer liquids. DD1 would not take anything with those syringe things until she was 2. that was a pain in the butt because she was on 3x/day perscriptions. We tried the paci that dispenses and that didnt work either. Eventually we found these little tiny bottles and would put a tiny bit of milk in them with the meds and that worked. Those bottles come in some of those baby first aid kit things but are hard to find separately.
I dont keep diaper creams in the medicine drawer...but we have butt paste, desitin, and aquaphor. We always started with aquaphor if there was no redness or slight redness without a rash. If that didnt clear it up that day, I mixed in a bit of butt past into the aquaphor and that usually worked for dd1. rarely we actually had to use the desitin but we were lucky and never had a real diaper rash, usually the worst we got was a few bumps. We also use aquaphor on dry skin spots or red skin caused by clothing rubbing or something, or for the skin around runny noses. I even use aquaphor on myself if I chafe when running or something! I love it.
@sourlemon For the aquaphore, do you just use the regular kind or the special baby kind? It looks like they're really the same thing but maybe I'm missing something.
They are the same. Sometimes i get coupons that specify "baby only" so I buy that. Otherwise i have noticed the "adult' stuff is a tiny bit cheaper (or goes on sale more often here maybe, so I buy that. It all comes down to what is cheaper at that time.
Just FYI my pediatrician says she personally never bothers with Tylenol for babies. Also not recommended til later. Less effective than ibuprofen, harder on the ...liver I think it is? It's VERY easy to overdose an infant on acetaminophen it can be catastrophic. Isn't Motrin ibuprofen? Also, babies and tots getting 'high' fevers is normal immune response and doesn't need to be addressed with medication much of the time. That's how they beat the germs. Of course talk with your pediatrician about how high is too high but I'll post an article later that talks about widespread over reaction to baby fevers.
@slartybartfast Totally agree with you on the whole most people over treat a fever thing. The fever is doing a job of killing off the bad stuff. Unless it gets too high, it's better to let it keep doing that job. Just figured I'd want to have something on hand in case we do reach that too high limit. Neither FI or I are ones to really take anything when we get sick so on the rare occasion we really need something we never have it or it's expired. Those sick trips to cvs at 1am suck! Trying to learn from my mistakes for baby
@tinattt23 Ask your pedi about what temp/when they want something given. Our pedi wants L to have a dose of Tylenol before every vaccination app. and when we notice he is getting teeth. Other than that, he only recommends when it hits 99.9 and above.
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Yep, sorry, I misspoke in my previous post. Ibuprofen is not given until 6 months plus. Motrin is Ibuprofen. Tylenol, if needed, before that. I work in the medical field, so I'm all for not medicating unless absolutely necessary. DS is 3 and has never had a sick visit, and I can count the number of times he's had a pain reliever on one hand. There are some studies to show that pain relievers lower the effectiveness of vaccines, so we never give before. DS has never needed after either. We also don't medicate "just in case" - only as necessary.
Here's that article I mentioned: https://healthcare.utah.edu/the-scope/shows.php?shows=0_zzvhzkjk I had to recently remind myself of this because it can be scary when your kids temp is spiking. Also, breast milk contains huge immune support which helps tiny babes avoid viruses and infections.
The article is in a bit of a tedious format but here's the take-aways: Most fevers between 100 and 104 are okay for sick kids. The exception
is babies less than 3 months of age. If they have a temperature of
100.4 or higher, and that's a rectal temperature 100.4 or higher, they
must be seen right away. That is when we really start getting worried
about infections in babies that are dangerous.
What about fevers over 104? Can they cause brain damage? No.
Fevers with infections don't cause brain damage. Only body temperatures
over 108 can cause brain damage. The body's thermometer goes high, but
extreme environmental temperatures, such as if a child is in a closed
car in hot weather, that's when you start worrying about the fever going
high and causing brain damage.
"What if my child has a fever? They can
have a febrile seizure, which is a seizure that's triggered a fever." The truth is only about four percent of children have febrile
seizures, and while they may be scary to watch, they usually stop within
five minutes, they don't cause permanent harm, and children who have
febrile seizures are not at greater risk for developmental delay,
learning disabilities, or epilepsy.
Do all fevers need to be treated with fever medicine? Look to see how your child is acting. If a
fever is 102 or 103, you're going to notice that your child's not
feeling so great. They're tired. They're cranky. But I've seen kids with
a fever of 101 running around in my office. So go by what your child
looks like and how they're acting rather by the number on the
thermometer.
"But what if I don't give them anything for their fever? Won't
the fever keep going higher?" No. The brain has an internal thermostat,
and fevers from infection top out at about 103 and 104. They usually
don't go higher than that.
"Once the fever comes down, it should stay down." No, fevers only
last two or three days with most viral illnesses. Actually, doctors
don't even start worrying until a fever has lasted for five or more
days.
When the medicine wears off, the fever's going to come back
because this is, again, your body's way of trying to fight off an
infection. So once your body overpowers the virus, usually by the fourth
day, then the fever goes down. If it doesn't go down, then, yes, it's a
good idea to make sure your child doesn't have some bacterial like an
infection, a urinary tract infection, or something else that would
require antibiotics to treat.
"If the fever's high, it's got to be something serious." Again,
if your child looks very sick, the cause is more likely to be serious.
It's not important what number is on the thermometer but how your child
looks.
So what about helping your child get rid of the fever? Should you
let the child sweat out the fever? Do they need extra fluids? Do you
need to starve a fever? What do you need to do? The best thing is to
keep your child comfortable. You can remove any extra clothing and give
them extra fluids because, yes, that will help them stay hydrated.
No tylenol til after 3 months. No motrin til after 6 months. No aspirin til after 18 years old.
It is common for girls to have some blood in their diaper within a few weeks of birth. Something to do with hormones. BF babies will tend to have seedy poop and whatever you eat they get...so don't eat spicy chili like my SIL or you will pay. NB sleep all the time.....like all the time then about 2 months old they are more active. DD had blocked tear ducts and we kept rushing her in for pink eye. It will clear itself up if you rub the corners of their eyes. Hand washing is a must. Also keep an outfit for you in the diaper bag too, babies puke, pee and poo in odd ways and most times your clothing or surroundings may be a casualty. Do not change them on your bed without a cover....you cannot get poop stains out of a mattress, I tried. Swaddlers AKA baby straight jackets are a lifesaver. It was the only way we got to sleep at night. The best advise I got was from my FIL (who has 9 kids and 23 grandkids). Babies will do what they want, when they want. Meaning if your kid wants to mashed potatoes at 3 months old let them, as long as they are supervised and not going to choke on chunks (use your common sense with things like this). They want to wait until they are 15 months to walk it's okay. Every kid is different and it doesn't matter how many books you read or what your friends kids are doing when, all kids go at their own pace. Trust your instincts, it sounds weird but as soon as that kid comes out you will know when something is wrong even if you are not around. Peppermint extract in water is a good substitute for gripe water, they only need an oz or two of water with a drop of extract. DD started to get colic and I was at a loss as to what to do. My grandma made her catnip tea which sounds really weird but it worked, sometimes the old remedies do work. You don't have to buy special laundry detergent "for babies" at $15 a bottle, anything free and clear will do fine unless kiddo has super allergies. Cloth diapers make good burp rags. One more super important thing. Babies do not come with instructions or a volume button, and ALL moms at one point or another have no idea what they are doing. Don't be judgmental and don't be hard on yourself, just enjoy the ride for what it is.
This happened with my nephew when he was first brought home. It's probably already discussed on this thread, but I'm going to restate it anyways.
About 10 hours after arriving home he started developing a rash all over his body. My sister called the hospital that she had delivered at and as it turns out it was just a reaction to being in a new environment/outside the womb. It had cleared up almost entirely by the next afternoon.
For newborns I only plan on getting vitamin d, coconut oil, witch hazel and a thermometer to keep on hand. Nearly everything that is "wrong" with a newborn can be solved with breast milk... clogged eye duct... squirt of milk... sick... feed more (and consult provider)... skin issues... rub milk on it and coconut oil ... cord care... witch hazel. Really anything else and we will talk to our pediatric provider. Later on I use motrine but still rely heavily on breast milk and avoiding issues/sickness.
@Kate08Young I saw this article on facebook over the weekend and loved it! Now looking back to when all my friends were first having babies, I feel guilty for not being more helpful around the house or for bringing food! Though I always brought presents
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I see that Target has a GC deal with diaper purchases, and was going to go this week and get at least one thing of NB Pampers swaddlers and another Size 1 in probably the Pampers Baby Dry. But, saw they also have swaddlers overnights. So confusing.
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We would put dd1 in a heavy coat in the car seat AFTER we arrived if we were gonna be somewhere cold for a while. Just walking around in the stroller (xmas lights, running races, going on walks) I felt was ok. Don't know if other people would though. But anytime in the car we put her in in lighter clothes then blankets or dropped the jacket over her.
On the size issue: I always used 1 size up for winter coats than what DD was in for normal clothes. They are layered on top of other clothes and honestly easier to get on when a size up. So you may get some good use.
1. I was organizing baby clothes this weekend and accidentally put all 0-3 and 3-6 months together. I was going to separate them but a lot of the Carter stuff just says 3 months. Is it 0-3 or 3-6?
2. Swaddling/sleep sacks - do you use this just at night or anytime they are sleeping? Also, do you unswaddle when they wake up to nurse?
For sleep sacks, we used them at night or after a bath/bedtime as part of the routine. For swaddling, L still loves to be swaddled but would never nurse while swaddled.
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Baby clothes sizes are cray
Its the shiz. I've nannied, I've got 2 kids, and owned a daycare. Trust me.
Its the best at preventing and curing diaper rashes. I only use it when I see baby has a little red butt starting up.
Ibuprofen isn't given until 6m+, so I wouldn't worry about that.
I would keep infant motrin for sure. We were fine with normal Desitin for diaper rashes. Other than that, we didn't use much with DS.
Gas drops. gripe water. infant tylenol. saline drops/spray.
thermometer (we use a forehead one because babies dont like to sit still long enough for the mouth ones).
teething tabs ***(i believe these have been recalled and may not be sold as of last week. I bought some a few weeks ago thank goodness, and totally plan to use them).
Also think about how you are going to administer liquids. DD1 would not take anything with those syringe things until she was 2. that was a pain in the butt because she was on 3x/day perscriptions. We tried the paci that dispenses and that didnt work either. Eventually we found these little tiny bottles and would put a tiny bit of milk in them with the meds and that worked. Those bottles come in some of those baby first aid kit things but are hard to find separately.
I dont keep diaper creams in the medicine drawer...but we have butt paste, desitin, and aquaphor. We always started with aquaphor if there was no redness or slight redness without a rash. If that didnt clear it up that day, I mixed in a bit of butt past into the aquaphor and that usually worked for dd1. rarely we actually had to use the desitin but we were lucky and never had a real diaper rash, usually the worst we got was a few bumps. We also use aquaphor on dry skin spots or red skin caused by clothing rubbing or something, or for the skin around runny noses. I even use aquaphor on myself if I chafe when running or something! I love it.
FTM, but a friend of mine swears by plain yogurt to combat diaper rash.
I may still invest in some butt paste, or the other things mentioned (all great, as I have been wondering medicine cabinet stuff lately).
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We bought a basic paci thermometer. It gave us an idea if we needed to get out the real one.
We used baby oragel for teething. Used a special gum brush to apply it, and baby tylenol have taken care of everything. .
Gripe water is nice, but we could work everything out by bicycling L's legs and a good burp session.
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I work in the medical field, so I'm all for not medicating unless absolutely necessary. DS is 3 and has never had a sick visit, and I can count the number of times he's had a pain reliever on one hand.
There are some studies to show that pain relievers lower the effectiveness of vaccines, so we never give before. DS has never needed after either. We also don't medicate "just in case" - only as necessary.
https://healthcare.utah.edu/the-scope/shows.php?shows=0_zzvhzkjk
I had to recently remind myself of this because it can be scary when your kids temp is spiking.
Also, breast milk contains huge immune support which helps tiny babes avoid viruses and infections.
The article is in a bit of a tedious format but here's the take-aways:
Most fevers between 100 and 104 are okay for sick kids. The exception is babies less than 3 months of age. If they have a temperature of 100.4 or higher, and that's a rectal temperature 100.4 or higher, they must be seen right away. That is when we really start getting worried about infections in babies that are dangerous.
What about fevers over 104? Can they cause brain damage? No. Fevers with infections don't cause brain damage. Only body temperatures over 108 can cause brain damage. The body's thermometer goes high, but extreme environmental temperatures, such as if a child is in a closed car in hot weather, that's when you start worrying about the fever going high and causing brain damage.
"What if my child has a fever? They can have a febrile seizure, which is a seizure that's triggered a fever." The truth is only about four percent of children have febrile seizures, and while they may be scary to watch, they usually stop within five minutes, they don't cause permanent harm, and children who have febrile seizures are not at greater risk for developmental delay, learning disabilities, or epilepsy.
Do all fevers need to be treated with fever medicine? Look to see how your child is acting. If a fever is 102 or 103, you're going to notice that your child's not feeling so great. They're tired. They're cranky. But I've seen kids with a fever of 101 running around in my office. So go by what your child looks like and how they're acting rather by the number on the thermometer.
"But what if I don't give them anything for their fever? Won't the fever keep going higher?" No. The brain has an internal thermostat, and fevers from infection top out at about 103 and 104. They usually don't go higher than that."Once the fever comes down, it should stay down." No, fevers only last two or three days with most viral illnesses. Actually, doctors don't even start worrying until a fever has lasted for five or more days.
When the medicine wears off, the fever's going to come back because this is, again, your body's way of trying to fight off an infection. So once your body overpowers the virus, usually by the fourth day, then the fever goes down. If it doesn't go down, then, yes, it's a good idea to make sure your child doesn't have some bacterial like an infection, a urinary tract infection, or something else that would require antibiotics to treat.
"If the fever's high, it's got to be something serious." Again, if your child looks very sick, the cause is more likely to be serious. It's not important what number is on the thermometer but how your child looks.
So what about helping your child get rid of the fever? Should you let the child sweat out the fever? Do they need extra fluids? Do you need to starve a fever? What do you need to do? The best thing is to keep your child comfortable. You can remove any extra clothing and give them extra fluids because, yes, that will help them stay hydrated.
No tylenol til after 3 months. No motrin til after 6 months. No aspirin til after 18 years old.
Well said ladies, well said.
About 10 hours after arriving home he started developing a rash all over his body. My sister called the hospital that she had delivered at and as it turns out it was just a reaction to being in a new environment/outside the womb. It had cleared up almost entirely by the next afternoon.
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