Hello! Seems like we have a little group of people with recent cps. My quick story is that my first Ivf ended in a freeze all because my estrogen was too high. We decided to PGS test since we had to freeze anyway. Fet a 5ab normal frostie on sept 1 and ended with a beta of only 5.9. Devastated. Stopped all meds on the 13th when beta was confirmed zero. And AF started last night.
I would love to know who else is out there on this same boat right now. Wondering if your REs are doing anything differently this cycle than last. I meet with my RE on the 26th. I will call the nurse today to tell her about my period, they will prob start me on bcp soon. Searching for ideas if what we can do different because everything was "perfect" and it ended in a bfn. And searching for others who are as puzzled as I am to go thru the next steps.
Me: 41 DH: 44 DD: 9
IVF: ER 7/16 40 follies, 23 eggs, 19 mature,
12 fert w/icsi, 6 blasts, 3 PGS norm, 1 unknown.
FET: 9/1/16 transferred 1 CP beta 5.9
FET 2: 11/15/16 transferred 1 CP again!
FET 3: TBD
Re: Trying again after chemical?
I got a call back from the nurse and I start BCP on Monday. Meet with the RE on the 26th to get new protocol.
IVF: ER 7/16 40 follies, 23 eggs, 19 mature,
12 fert w/icsi, 6 blasts, 3 PGS norm, 1 unknown.
FET: 9/1/16 transferred 1 CP beta 5.9
FET 2: 11/15/16 transferred 1 CP again!
FET 3: TBD
I have a friend who has been through multiple rounds of IVF (all FETs, no fresh transfers and all PGS tested). She has had 4 CP's and 2 miscarriages. BUT, she has 2 perfect little babies!!! She went through so much but just kept going and going and it worked!! She gives me hope on my bad days.
I'm didn't take BCP either, like the PP. Estrace 2mg 3 x a day, PIO 1 x a day, plus 2 progesterone suppositories daily.
Me: 1, possibly 2, blocked tubes
DH: severe MFI
Married and TTC since 2/15
Started stims 7/21/16, ER 8/2 --> 17 eggs, 5 blasts after PGS testing.
Fresh transfer 8/8/16: Chemical Pregnancy
FET #1 9/13: PGS tested 5AA, BFN
Endometrial biopsy 10/18/16: normal result
ERA test 10/18/16: "receptive" result
FET #2 1/3/17: natural cycle, BFP!!! TWINS!! EDD: 9/21 (8/31 with twin adjustment)
@APM_SLP. The PGS thing is so frustrating because all the research of chemicals always points to chromosomes and when you have the PGS you are left with a big fat question mark! I still have fingers crossed for the next Fet. That story def gives me a little extra hope! Have you restarted yet?
thanks@thatgirl9911
IVF: ER 7/16 40 follies, 23 eggs, 19 mature,
12 fert w/icsi, 6 blasts, 3 PGS norm, 1 unknown.
FET: 9/1/16 transferred 1 CP beta 5.9
FET 2: 11/15/16 transferred 1 CP again!
FET 3: TBD
Me: 1, possibly 2, blocked tubes
DH: severe MFI
Married and TTC since 2/15
Started stims 7/21/16, ER 8/2 --> 17 eggs, 5 blasts after PGS testing.
Fresh transfer 8/8/16: Chemical Pregnancy
FET #1 9/13: PGS tested 5AA, BFN
Endometrial biopsy 10/18/16: normal result
ERA test 10/18/16: "receptive" result
FET #2 1/3/17: natural cycle, BFP!!! TWINS!! EDD: 9/21 (8/31 with twin adjustment)
Me: 35 DH: 41, Married since 2009
TTC since June 2012
Aug. 2012: CP
2013 Several cycles of TI with Clomid = BFN
Feb. 2014: IUI = BFN
June 2014: IUI w/Clomid = BFN
Jul. 2014: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
Apr. 2016: Consult to begin IVF
May 2016 TI w/Follistim and Ovidrel = BFN
Jul. 2016: BCPs, baby aspirin, Vitamin D, COQ10, DHEA, Gonal F, Menopur, Cetrotide, Novarel, Leuprolide Acetate: 21 eggs retrieved, (10 w/ ICSI, 11 w/conv. IVF) 13 fertilized
Jul. 2016: Endometrin, Fresh Transfer 2AB = CP
7 frozen
Oct. 2016: BCPs, baby aspirin, Estradiol, PIO, FET 4AA = CP
6 frozen
Nov. 2016: Hospitalized for small bowel obstruction
Mar. 2017: Diagnostic Laparoscopy = Twist found in intestine - part of small intestine, part of colon, and appendix removed, bowel resection - caused by Endometriosis
May 2017: 3.75 Lupron Depot
June 2017: FET postponed due to complex cysts in breasts
June 2017: Endometrial scratch
Jul. 2017: Baby aspirin, Estradiol, PIO, FET 4AA (lost 1 4AA in thaw) = CP
4 frozen
Sept. 2017: ERA testing
Oct. 2017: Breast cysts biopsied
Dec. 2017: FET
sorry for your cp @2006M&M. Best of luck on your next round.
@APM_SLP. I completely didn't translate you were on your 2ww. You are going to be the success story I need! Fingers crossed for you! I know for sure I will not test. I don't think I could handle getting excited to find out it's another cp.
IVF: ER 7/16 40 follies, 23 eggs, 19 mature,
12 fert w/icsi, 6 blasts, 3 PGS norm, 1 unknown.
FET: 9/1/16 transferred 1 CP beta 5.9
FET 2: 11/15/16 transferred 1 CP again!
FET 3: TBD
IVF: ER 7/16 40 follies, 23 eggs, 19 mature,
12 fert w/icsi, 6 blasts, 3 PGS norm, 1 unknown.
FET: 9/1/16 transferred 1 CP beta 5.9
FET 2: 11/15/16 transferred 1 CP again!
FET 3: TBD
IVF: ER 7/16 40 follies, 23 eggs, 19 mature,
12 fert w/icsi, 6 blasts, 3 PGS norm, 1 unknown.
FET: 9/1/16 transferred 1 CP beta 5.9
FET 2: 11/15/16 transferred 1 CP again!
FET 3: TBD
The biggest disappointments about my CP after IVF were the good betas. The first was 117.3. The second was 238.1. I was sent for a third because I had started bleeding 2 days after the second beta. The third was 927.4! It sounds like you ladies who have also suffered through CP had low numbers. When I had the CP trying on our own years ago, I had a positive HPT and then started bleeding 5 days later. The day after the bleeding started, my levels were at a 6. So having these high betas after IVF and still having a CP was a total mindf@#$! DH was telling me to relax that everything was fine... The nurses and RE at my clinic kept trying to reassure me that the bleeding I was having could be normal, but I knew better. When I went for a fourth beta, I was down to 123. I can't even trust numbers to let me think everything will be ok! I feel like spotting for me is always a bad sign. I hear so much about how it's normal during pregnancy, especially after IVF, but any time I've had spotting, it's always turned to bleeding and CP.
@FatPony I am encouraged to hear that you didn't have your embryos tested. We have 7 frozen and didn't do testing either. I feel in the minority on the boards because I feel like most people do testing. I'm hoping what you said is true about your CP round... That the embryos were just "kinda good." For my CP round, the best was transferred but it was only a 2AB. They said it looked good, but I was hoping it would've been further along. We have a few 4AAs frozen, so I'm hoping this FET will work with one of those. I hope you get good news this time... and I hope it's the end of CPs for all of us.
Me: 35 DH: 41, Married since 2009
TTC since June 2012
Aug. 2012: CP
2013 Several cycles of TI with Clomid = BFN
Feb. 2014: IUI = BFN
June 2014: IUI w/Clomid = BFN
Jul. 2014: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
Apr. 2016: Consult to begin IVF
May 2016 TI w/Follistim and Ovidrel = BFN
Jul. 2016: BCPs, baby aspirin, Vitamin D, COQ10, DHEA, Gonal F, Menopur, Cetrotide, Novarel, Leuprolide Acetate: 21 eggs retrieved, (10 w/ ICSI, 11 w/conv. IVF) 13 fertilized
Jul. 2016: Endometrin, Fresh Transfer 2AB = CP
7 frozen
Oct. 2016: BCPs, baby aspirin, Estradiol, PIO, FET 4AA = CP
6 frozen
Nov. 2016: Hospitalized for small bowel obstruction
Mar. 2017: Diagnostic Laparoscopy = Twist found in intestine - part of small intestine, part of colon, and appendix removed, bowel resection - caused by Endometriosis
May 2017: 3.75 Lupron Depot
June 2017: FET postponed due to complex cysts in breasts
June 2017: Endometrial scratch
Jul. 2017: Baby aspirin, Estradiol, PIO, FET 4AA (lost 1 4AA in thaw) = CP
4 frozen
Sept. 2017: ERA testing
Oct. 2017: Breast cysts biopsied
Dec. 2017: FET
Me: 35 DH: 41, Married since 2009
TTC since June 2012
Aug. 2012: CP
2013 Several cycles of TI with Clomid = BFN
Feb. 2014: IUI = BFN
June 2014: IUI w/Clomid = BFN
Jul. 2014: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
Apr. 2016: Consult to begin IVF
May 2016 TI w/Follistim and Ovidrel = BFN
Jul. 2016: BCPs, baby aspirin, Vitamin D, COQ10, DHEA, Gonal F, Menopur, Cetrotide, Novarel, Leuprolide Acetate: 21 eggs retrieved, (10 w/ ICSI, 11 w/conv. IVF) 13 fertilized
Jul. 2016: Endometrin, Fresh Transfer 2AB = CP
7 frozen
Oct. 2016: BCPs, baby aspirin, Estradiol, PIO, FET 4AA = CP
6 frozen
Nov. 2016: Hospitalized for small bowel obstruction
Mar. 2017: Diagnostic Laparoscopy = Twist found in intestine - part of small intestine, part of colon, and appendix removed, bowel resection - caused by Endometriosis
May 2017: 3.75 Lupron Depot
June 2017: FET postponed due to complex cysts in breasts
June 2017: Endometrial scratch
Jul. 2017: Baby aspirin, Estradiol, PIO, FET 4AA (lost 1 4AA in thaw) = CP
4 frozen
Sept. 2017: ERA testing
Oct. 2017: Breast cysts biopsied
Dec. 2017: FET
@joneser1281 you are totally right that a high beta is worse. When my re called and said congratulations, you are pregnant with a beta of 5.9...I started balling and said congrats for what? You know that has a super low chance of being viable! I think that shocked him and he put the nurse on! Lol. When the nurse called for my second beta and said she was so sorry it was negative. I said I am just glad we get to move forward and you aren't saying it is 5.2. So yeah, at least when it is low, it resolves quickly and messes with your head a little less. So sorry you had to deal with that.
IVF: ER 7/16 40 follies, 23 eggs, 19 mature,
12 fert w/icsi, 6 blasts, 3 PGS norm, 1 unknown.
FET: 9/1/16 transferred 1 CP beta 5.9
FET 2: 11/15/16 transferred 1 CP again!
FET 3: TBD
Me: 1, possibly 2, blocked tubes
DH: severe MFI
Married and TTC since 2/15
Started stims 7/21/16, ER 8/2 --> 17 eggs, 5 blasts after PGS testing.
Fresh transfer 8/8/16: Chemical Pregnancy
FET #1 9/13: PGS tested 5AA, BFN
Endometrial biopsy 10/18/16: normal result
ERA test 10/18/16: "receptive" result
FET #2 1/3/17: natural cycle, BFP!!! TWINS!! EDD: 9/21 (8/31 with twin adjustment)
Calling in a few minutes to figure out what they will say about this freaking rash from the PIO shots. My butt cheeks are on fire! LOL
IVF: ER 7/16 40 follies, 23 eggs, 19 mature,
12 fert w/icsi, 6 blasts, 3 PGS norm, 1 unknown.
FET: 9/1/16 transferred 1 CP beta 5.9
FET 2: 11/15/16 transferred 1 CP again!
FET 3: TBD
Me: 35 DH: 41, Married since 2009
TTC since June 2012
Aug. 2012: CP
2013 Several cycles of TI with Clomid = BFN
Feb. 2014: IUI = BFN
June 2014: IUI w/Clomid = BFN
Jul. 2014: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
Apr. 2016: Consult to begin IVF
May 2016 TI w/Follistim and Ovidrel = BFN
Jul. 2016: BCPs, baby aspirin, Vitamin D, COQ10, DHEA, Gonal F, Menopur, Cetrotide, Novarel, Leuprolide Acetate: 21 eggs retrieved, (10 w/ ICSI, 11 w/conv. IVF) 13 fertilized
Jul. 2016: Endometrin, Fresh Transfer 2AB = CP
7 frozen
Oct. 2016: BCPs, baby aspirin, Estradiol, PIO, FET 4AA = CP
6 frozen
Nov. 2016: Hospitalized for small bowel obstruction
Mar. 2017: Diagnostic Laparoscopy = Twist found in intestine - part of small intestine, part of colon, and appendix removed, bowel resection - caused by Endometriosis
May 2017: 3.75 Lupron Depot
June 2017: FET postponed due to complex cysts in breasts
June 2017: Endometrial scratch
Jul. 2017: Baby aspirin, Estradiol, PIO, FET 4AA (lost 1 4AA in thaw) = CP
4 frozen
Sept. 2017: ERA testing
Oct. 2017: Breast cysts biopsied
Dec. 2017: FET
I really think the re is a wimp. When I meet with him on Monday and will mention the whole congrats thing. Honestly, if I wasn't on these boards I wouldn't have known cps exist and that 5.9 was bad. I would have been celebrating only to go two days later and get a negative.
I spoke with the nurse about the rash and she said she gets tons of calls about rashes showing up a week later. Ok, so it is normal I guess. She said to put cortisone on it and more or less suck it up. I am back on the bcp, but something is telling me I should wait a full cycle. I hate meds, I am sick of taking them. I am going to talk with the re and see what he thinks our options are before I do anything dumb.
IVF: ER 7/16 40 follies, 23 eggs, 19 mature,
12 fert w/icsi, 6 blasts, 3 PGS norm, 1 unknown.
FET: 9/1/16 transferred 1 CP beta 5.9
FET 2: 11/15/16 transferred 1 CP again!
FET 3: TBD
Me: 1, possibly 2, blocked tubes
DH: severe MFI
Married and TTC since 2/15
Started stims 7/21/16, ER 8/2 --> 17 eggs, 5 blasts after PGS testing.
Fresh transfer 8/8/16: Chemical Pregnancy
FET #1 9/13: PGS tested 5AA, BFN
Endometrial biopsy 10/18/16: normal result
ERA test 10/18/16: "receptive" result
FET #2 1/3/17: natural cycle, BFP!!! TWINS!! EDD: 9/21 (8/31 with twin adjustment)
Is that called an endometrial biopsy? I have read a little about it. Is it the same thing people call the "Scratch"? I hope the dr set aside plenty of time for me! Because I have a ton of questions.
IVF: ER 7/16 40 follies, 23 eggs, 19 mature,
12 fert w/icsi, 6 blasts, 3 PGS norm, 1 unknown.
FET: 9/1/16 transferred 1 CP beta 5.9
FET 2: 11/15/16 transferred 1 CP again!
FET 3: TBD
Me: 1, possibly 2, blocked tubes
DH: severe MFI
Married and TTC since 2/15
Started stims 7/21/16, ER 8/2 --> 17 eggs, 5 blasts after PGS testing.
Fresh transfer 8/8/16: Chemical Pregnancy
FET #1 9/13: PGS tested 5AA, BFN
Endometrial biopsy 10/18/16: normal result
ERA test 10/18/16: "receptive" result
FET #2 1/3/17: natural cycle, BFP!!! TWINS!! EDD: 9/21 (8/31 with twin adjustment)
Me: 1, possibly 2, blocked tubes
DH: severe MFI
Married and TTC since 2/15
Started stims 7/21/16, ER 8/2 --> 17 eggs, 5 blasts after PGS testing.
Fresh transfer 8/8/16: Chemical Pregnancy
FET #1 9/13: PGS tested 5AA, BFN
Endometrial biopsy 10/18/16: normal result
ERA test 10/18/16: "receptive" result
FET #2 1/3/17: natural cycle, BFP!!! TWINS!! EDD: 9/21 (8/31 with twin adjustment)
IVF: ER 7/16 40 follies, 23 eggs, 19 mature,
12 fert w/icsi, 6 blasts, 3 PGS norm, 1 unknown.
FET: 9/1/16 transferred 1 CP beta 5.9
FET 2: 11/15/16 transferred 1 CP again!
FET 3: TBD
@APM_SLP I am bummed to hear your news. You had PGS testing right? Man, why can't anything be certain in this process?! I've never heard of uterine lining biopsy. I have heard things recently about the "scratch," but I think only through the boards.
I picked up my Estradiol prescription the other day and my PIO is supposed to be delivered in a few days. Not that I need either of these for another 2 weeks. Still taking the BCPs and baby aspirin. My clinic is asking if we want to transfer one or two embryos. I've been strictly saying one... But now I'm starting to weaken a little. Maybe we should do two? I'm just so tired of waiting, being let down, waiting, trying again. I'm starting to get confused on what to do. I think we're going to have a phone conference with the doctor to help talk through some of this.
Me: 35 DH: 41, Married since 2009
TTC since June 2012
Aug. 2012: CP
2013 Several cycles of TI with Clomid = BFN
Feb. 2014: IUI = BFN
June 2014: IUI w/Clomid = BFN
Jul. 2014: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
Apr. 2016: Consult to begin IVF
May 2016 TI w/Follistim and Ovidrel = BFN
Jul. 2016: BCPs, baby aspirin, Vitamin D, COQ10, DHEA, Gonal F, Menopur, Cetrotide, Novarel, Leuprolide Acetate: 21 eggs retrieved, (10 w/ ICSI, 11 w/conv. IVF) 13 fertilized
Jul. 2016: Endometrin, Fresh Transfer 2AB = CP
7 frozen
Oct. 2016: BCPs, baby aspirin, Estradiol, PIO, FET 4AA = CP
6 frozen
Nov. 2016: Hospitalized for small bowel obstruction
Mar. 2017: Diagnostic Laparoscopy = Twist found in intestine - part of small intestine, part of colon, and appendix removed, bowel resection - caused by Endometriosis
May 2017: 3.75 Lupron Depot
June 2017: FET postponed due to complex cysts in breasts
June 2017: Endometrial scratch
Jul. 2017: Baby aspirin, Estradiol, PIO, FET 4AA (lost 1 4AA in thaw) = CP
4 frozen
Sept. 2017: ERA testing
Oct. 2017: Breast cysts biopsied
Dec. 2017: FET
@joneser1281 we did PGS and my office says only one. I think I am going to see if they will transfer the one PGS normal and the one that they didn't get an answer on next time. At my age it is prob abnormal since 3 of 6 were normal already. But for some reason two makes me think one will stick. I would even consider doing my two PGS normals that are left. I am not getting any younger and my brain is telling me we might need to do another fresh,so I May as we'll get there already.
IVF: ER 7/16 40 follies, 23 eggs, 19 mature,
12 fert w/icsi, 6 blasts, 3 PGS norm, 1 unknown.
FET: 9/1/16 transferred 1 CP beta 5.9
FET 2: 11/15/16 transferred 1 CP again!
FET 3: TBD
Married my best friend in 2013 (I was 33), After 1.5yrs of TTC got my first BFP naturally on 2/7/15 but ended in DNC on 4/14/15, not viable. In 2015 I was 35...Found out I had only one working ovary, which was DOR, with scar tissue and I ovulated at 7 days, with a small cervix opening and a tilted uterus... Needing an RE was a must.....IUI#1 Sept 2015,,, BFN IUI#2 Oct 2015,,,BFN IUI#3 Dec 2015,,BFN IVF#1 2/1/16- BFN IVF# on 3/29/16 retrieval only - 1 healthy chromosome tested embryo. IVF#3 retrieval 4/23/16- 0 healthy embryos. IVF#4 retrieval 6/17/16- 1 healthy embryo. FET#1-Transferred Both Healthy Embryos on 9/6/16 BFP!! 9/15/16 Beta 22.3, 9/17/16 Beta 60.5 & 9/19/16 Beta 195! 1st US on 9/23/16, only 1 Gast Sac & Yolk Sac found, US 9/30/16 US 6wk 1day saw and heard Heartbeat 120bpm!! EDD 5/25/2017 Had a healthy baby girl via CSection on 5/18/17 8lbs 15oz. Then four months later got pregnant naturally and had a healthy baby boy on 6/13/18 7lbs 6oz (at age 38). Needless to say, anything is possible! I'm keeping my signature open so it gives someone out there hope that anything is possible. Message me if you ever have any questions or just need someone to talk to. DON'T GIVE UP!