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WTO Saturday 9/17

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Re: WTO Saturday 9/17

  • @leilac I personally don't take Advil anymore at my REs recommendation.  It can delay/impact ovulation. That being said, I think if you are only taking it during the very beginning of your cycle and if Tylenol is not working for you, then it's better to take Advil than be in pain. 
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  • @beachbunnyxo123 that image should work? Let me know. 

    @adirat thanks for your help. I am not positive about it either.. I have never gotten a positive OPK yet though. I do know some women don't get them and maybe I am one of them. In your opinion, if my temp is higher tomorrow, CD17 would have been O date? I guess I'm confused on how it might go from here. 
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  • @soemthingclever  what happened with the Zika thing? Did you travel or did your partner? I travel a lot for work but have not yet been to an affected area just curious. 
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  • @CrystalPDX Do you know what your short cycle was caused by? Was it in the Luteal Phase? My FF is doing the same thing and has given me such a wide window. What kind of teas are you using? 
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    I'm 26, DH is 32
    Paraguard removed August 2016
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  • @GingerJams  It's a tough call, compounded by the open circles.  My advice would be to do your best to get consistent temp times for the next several days, and follow the sage addage: when in doubt, HIO ;)  you may get another patch of fertile cm, or even a positive opk yet!  Or your temps could show a sustained rise and you're good.  But wonky times will slways make it tougher to nail down and can make a chart look almost annovulatory, when it really might not be... GL!
  • @TalesOfASocialIntrovert I usually get a big temp drop on CD2 and my temps stay low until O. For your OPKs, it could be an early false surge. I also find that I have to make sure I am holding my urine long enough to see it darken -- if I drink too much water, it disappears even between dark OPKs. 

    @GingerJams I experience darkening OPKs over 2-3 days, but I only get truly positive OPKs on one day (typically in the morning of the day I ovulate, but not FMU) and if I am holding my urine for 2-3 hours. So it's possible you missed it. Nothing abnormal about that -- some women just have short surges and you missed a couple days in there according to your chart.

    Yes, if you have a higher temp tomorrow, I would vote for CD17 like FF indicates. But because you said your CD20 temp is only high because you threw out your original, low CD20 temp, I wouldn't count on it at this point. 

    Also, I would say there's nothing to worry about generally -- based on your sig, I'm guessing this is your first cycle post-IUD? So this may be a weird cycle and you'll normalize later.

    @BusinessWife I hope you're able to see some positive movement with your cortisol levels. Sorry if I missed you saying this, but does your doctor know why your cortisol is off?  


  • @adirat. Thanks!  Nothing specific really, just longterm-enough stress, enough so that they have become flip-flopped i.e. lower than the curve in the AM (when they should be at their highest), and then increasing till they are fully above-normal high at bedtime :/
  • @tripledaggerWed95976 @adirat I feel like this is a mess. First chart I've ever done and DD has been all over the place on when she wakes in the morning, thus, my wake up times have been all over (basically all the open circles). I did see a tiny amount of EWCM one day but then a ton the second day I marked it (maybe TMI but it was just hanging out of me when I peed). But here you go...



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  • @bumpybump No worries about TMI. I get that too. If your CD15 temp is high due to drinking on CD14, then my guess would be CD16 O with CD18 2dpo fallback rise. If you see another higher temp tomorrow, then I'd feel pretty confident about this. Feel free to ping me tomorrow if you want another CS with tomorrow's temp :)


  • @adirat I might be marking drinking wrong. I mark it for the morning after having a drink. So I actually drank Monday night (CD13). I thought you marked drinking when your temp would be affected (following day temp-CD14). So same with CD4, I actually drank the night prior.  Guessing I should change that then?

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  • Month/Cycle: 4/4

    CD: 8?

    WAYDTGKU: pnv, temping, eod... took my first opk today... didn't look very positive, but it was fun anyways!! I'll probably really start on Monday! 

    R/R: nothing really... our house is really messy so we'll probably have to clean sometime this weekend. 

    CS/Q: nope!

    GTKY: What's one thing about you that others (or yourself) would consider unique or strange? Umm... I can't think of anything... I'm kind of an introvert so people probably think I'm a little odd in general. I work in a really unique job? I don't like stickers? I lover my dog probably a little too much?

  • @bumpybump Oh I'm not sure... I just interpreted what you did wrong. My fault. I'm not sure what the instructions on FF are.


  • edited September 2016
    bumpybump said:
    @tripledaggerWed95976 @adirat I feel like this is a mess. First chart I've ever done and DD has been all over the place on when she wakes in the morning, thus, my wake up times have been all over (basically all the open circles). I did see a tiny amount of EWCM one day but then a ton the second day I marked it (maybe TMI but it was just hanging out of me when I peed). But here you go...


    bumpybump said:
    @adirat I might be marking drinking wrong. I mark it for the morning after having a drink. So I actually drank Monday night (CD13). I thought you marked drinking when your temp would be affected (following day temp-CD14). So same with CD4, I actually drank the night prior.  Guessing I should change that then?
    Wow that's a difficult chart! when I read through this, I initially agreed with @adirat but then I read your reply to @adirat which changed my opinion.  I would now say it doesn't appear that u have O'd yet :-(
    the CD 16 temp drop is what makes me say that. You don't have 3 straight days of a thermal shift yet.  
    HOWEVER, erratic temping time can drastically change some women's BBT.... For example- if my son wakes me up at 4:30, my temp will be at least .5 degrees less than if I wake up only an hour later at 5:30.   
    Unfortunately only time will tell :-( 
    FX for u!

    ETA: did u by any chance wake up a lot earlier than normal on CD 16 to cause that lower temp?
  • @adirat I did a quick search and have only found people saying they mark it the night they drank (I probably should have searched initially). So here's an updated one. @tripledaggerWed95976 look at this one instead.  


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  • bumpybump said:
    @adirat I did a quick search and have only found people saying they mark it the night they drank (I probably should have searched initially). So here's an updated one. @tripledaggerWed95976 look at this one instead.  

    Hmmm that CD 16 is still bugging me.  It's not far enough above ur coverline :-(
  • @tripledaggerWed95976 you must have posted while I was making my last post.

    Thanks for the advice ladies!  We shall see. 

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  • @bumpybump. I agree that is tough to call bc if your temp had been at the normal time today, perhaps you could have seen a rise for O on CD 16 or 17.  The textbook thing would be to see O w/i 12-72 hours (longest) from the first positive opk, with O ocurring on the last day if fertile/peak-type cm.  Of course it's not always so neat and tidy, but I don't definitively see O yet either, fwiw, but see what happens if those temps go up and FF may give you CH for CD17, or like @adirat said, CD16 is also a definite possibility.  Not sure though if the first or second post-O temp is an open circle whether it will give you solid or dotted CH tho.
  • Awww @soemthingclever fwiw I recognize you, too, and I'm still semi-new here so I don't want to speak for everyone but I'm sure most wouldn't want you to feel like a failure for not being able to respond to everyone <3 Some days I can and some days I can't. It can be very active in here and I primarily mobile bump, too, so I know the struggle (I only do the individual replies if I have a second device handy like my iPad or laptop)
  • @soemthingclever I can only mobile bump so I understand wto can be very difficult to keep up with! I definitely remember you. You were so supportive when I was in the benched thread! 
  • edited September 2016
    Month/Cycle: 10

    CD: 10

    WAYDTGKU: Other than DH & I BD nothing yet - waiting for my doctor appointment on the 4th.

    R/R: Currently at work - so I guess this....

    CS/Q: DH & I were talking last night about me starting to take some pre-natal vitamins now though. What's your opinion?

    GTKY: What's one thing about you that others (or yourself) would consider unique or strange? Not only do I like ketchup (sorry ladies who don't ) but I really like mixing ketchup and mayonnaise and using that as sauce for my fries or nuggets, etc.

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  • *dirty lurker* @saphiresweetie88 I started Prenatals as soon as I started trying. It's actually good for you (per physicians) because it builds up in your body before baby or if you get really bad morning sickness.
  • @SaphireSweetie88 my doctor told me in May that as soon as I was serious about TTC and very much the same day I got paraguard IUD removed that I should start taking prenatals. I have also read some people get on them a few months before TTC. In my case, I have been taking them since early Julyand we just actively TTC this month. (Wanted to try last month but were apart during fertile window). My doctor told me I could take regular prenatals during TTC and then make sure I get the ones with DHA once I did conceive. I switched to DHA as soon as I got Paragaurd out (early August). 

    They won't hurt you one bit, I take mine at night and I never notice them. 
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    I'm 26, DH is 32
    Paraguard removed August 2016
    Using OPKs, FF, Preseed, Temping, CM

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  • @SaphireSweetie88 my doctor told me in May that as soon as I was serious about TTC and very much the same day I got paraguard IUD removed that I should start taking prenatals. I have also read some people get on them a few months before TTC. In my case, I have been taking them since early Julyand we just actively TTC this month. (Wanted to try last month but were apart during fertile window). My doctor told me I could take regular prenatals during TTC and then make sure I get the ones with DHA once I did conceive. I switched to DHA as soon as I got Paragaurd out (early August). 

    They won't hurt you one bit, I take mine at night and I never notice them. 
    I had the same situation actually, except I had the mirena. I also take mine at night.
  • @EL824
    @GingerJams

    Thanks. What brand are you two taking? Anything other than DHA I should watch out for? I know DHA is good but anything bad I should make sure aren't in them?
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    Married: 06-2024
    TTC #1: Since November 2015
    Restarted TTC "count" Oct. 2016
         due to previous issues.
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  • @SaphireSweetie88 Last round of TTC I took PNVs the entire 9 months we tried. I very much credited my consistency early on with them for adjusting well once I was KUd. Also, did you know that in Idaho, ketchup and mayo mixed is actually called "fry sauce?"

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  • @saphiresweetie88 I take Naturemade + DHA. It's only 1 pill a day which I loved! A lot of them are 3 pills a day. I have never had a super upset stomach with it, but then again I take it right before I go to sleep so I wouldn't notice.
  • @SaphireSweetie88
    I take NatureMade multi + DHA. DH wanted me to get some version that's all organic for way more $$ but I decided these were just fine and more affordable. Plus, his main reasoning for the organic was the coating I guess on some of these brands can irritate your stomach and/or make it harder for absorption...this one seems to be fine. 
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    I'm 26, DH is 32
    Paraguard removed August 2016
    Using OPKs, FF, Preseed, Temping, CM

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  • @SaphireSweetie88 I started pnv when I started ttc and I'm so glad I did. It took me 4 different brands to find one that didn't make me sick. It didn't matter when I took them. I finally found one that works for me! I'm so glad I figured it out and didn't have to go through that while pregnant. 
  • @SaphireSweetie88 You want to make sure that they have folic acid. Folic acid is really important at the very very beginning of pregnancy, even before you get a bfp. You need to have it built up in your system. I've heard many doctors say that pnv are essential for ALL women of childbearing age, regardless if you are trying to get pregnant at the time. I have a hard time with most multivitamins, prenatal or not, making my stomach upset and have found the Rainbow Light Prenatals don't upset my stomach. The best price I've found for them is on Amazon.  https://www.amazon.com/Rainbow-Light-Prenatal-Multivitamin-150-Count/dp/B00115BJ30/ref=sr_1_1_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1474161674&sr=1-1&keywords=rainbow%2Blight%2Bprenatal&th=1
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  • @bumpybump Thanks for letting me know that PNV helped when you did get KU. I'm definitely starting to think I am going to take some. Also I did not know that about Idaho. That's awesome! It's awesome sauce (Sorry I couldn't help it)

    @EL824 @GingerJams Thanks! I am going to look into that brand.

    @mrs35 Thanks! Did you take the Nature Made brand too?
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    Married: 06-2024
    TTC #1: Since November 2015
    Restarted TTC "count" Oct. 2016
         due to previous issues.
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    BFP: 11/4/2016 
    BFP: 07/17/2024
  • @MrsDorkCharming
    Thanks for the tip about folic acid!
    Me:35 | DH: 32
    Married: 06-2024
    TTC #1: Since November 2015
    Restarted TTC "count" Oct. 2016
         due to previous issues.
    ***TW***
    BFP: 11/4/2016 
    BFP: 07/17/2024
  • @GingerJams I'm not completely sold on O just yet. I wonder if you put 3 high temps in if it moves your CHs? I would say keep taking OPKs and HIO in the meantime just in case. Keep posting your chart I'm curious to see where it goes!
  • @SaphireSweetie88 I take vitamin code garden of life raw prenatal. It is the iron in vitamins that make me sick. Even the rainbow lights made me sick. Raw prenatals have a form of iron that works for me. Unfortunately it is one you have to take 3 times a day but I think that is why I don't get sick. There is always some in my system but never enough to make me sick if that makes sense. 
  • @MrsDorkCharming Those are the same ones I take too! I've been using them since February (when I stopped BCP) and I think they're the bomb.
  • @tripledaggerWed95976 I just saw your eta. Unfortunately, CD 16 was not early. My times from CD13-CD17 were between 7:00 - 7:30. I'm a dork and wrote them all out :). I do know I sleep with my mouth open a lot.

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  • @mrs35

    Thanks! Yes that does make sense about why 3 times a day doesn't make you sick. I usually am okay when I do have to take meds and don't have any issues with my stomach. I will definitely keep this brand in mind in case I do get some issues on the others. Not sure which brand I am going to go with yet but I was looking them up online and I am leaning towards Nature Made.
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    Married: 06-2024
    TTC #1: Since November 2015
    Restarted TTC "count" Oct. 2016
         due to previous issues.
    ***TW***
    BFP: 11/4/2016 
    BFP: 07/17/2024
  • @SaphireSweetie88 you just need to take what is best for you! Whatever you choose I just recommend starting them now and making sure they work with your body!
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