Work is my TW! Sooo...I took a $15k/yr pay cut for my new job because once I'm done with this fellowship, my salary should jump far higher than it would have had I gone straight into a grown up research job. One of the small benefits they were able to promise me was a conference stipend to support my travel and presentations at different conferences. It's the last day for early registration to a major conference, and my mentor just informed me that they have officially "done away with" the conference stipend due to budget cuts. So I'm left with the prospect of paying a significant amount of money for a conference that should be comped for me. My mentor was very apologetic, and it's not her fault. But I'm feeling really frustrated and sort of taken advantage of. The conference is pretty necessary for my career, and I won't be able to go next year. So now I have to figure out how to save up +$1k to pay for all of this asap...on top of the whole baby thing.
I often work from home on Tuesdays mornings. I am at home this morning trying to write a paper. I get an email from a research assistant at 9:10am wanting to know if I can see a research subject who is coming in at 9:30. Um, no. I need more than 20 mins notice. This particular RA does things like this all the time, and is always complaining about how busy he is, while spending half his time sitting around in the office chatting and trying to get undergrad volunteers to help with things that should be his job.
@linziloo09 - that is TOTAL BS. One thing you can potentially do is call the conference organizer and explain this predicament. They've always got some sort of code or discount or something they can fudge in cases like this it seems. They'd rather not have a presenter have to bow out.
Today's TW is me. I just am wrecked emotionally from yesterday's worrying about Eaton moving (he's still moving, he wiggled all last night, and still moving this morning). He's okay. But I'm not. I ended up having an anxiety attack last night after he started moving again then stopped. Now today I'm feeling anxious, depressed, and on the verge of tears. I don't know what's wrong. I guess it's just residual. I'm just not okay.
On top of those feelings, I started a small group for church for expectant moms and we're supposed to meet for coffee/brunch this morning at 11:30. I've never met them before so it's a perfect combination of already feeling nuts to now having to go meet new people. I hope I'm able to pull it off and not be a basket case when we meet.
@Austenista I'm so sorry you're feeling like this! I can relate. I have a lot of anxiety and depression from time to time and it sucks.
Is there anything you can do that helps you get calm? Some things that work for me are prayer, a walk, a hot shower, calling my mom or a girlfriend, reading inspirational quotes, deep breathing, making lists, cleaning the house, getting a pedicure. Anything you can do for yourself?
I totally understand that being with others probably doesn't seem like something you want to do today, but maybe it'll help a bit? I tend to isolate when I'm feeling bad, and if I force myself to socialize, it can be helpful.
@slartybartfast I wish I could! Unfortunately this is a big, international conference, and I'm just presenting an abstract. So it's no big deal to them if I drop out. I do think they have some hotel and flight discounts I'm going to try to capitalize on. AND I just realized that I still qualify for student pricing since I'm in a fellowship. So that knocks about $200 off the costs. I still really want to go - it'll be our last trip before the spawn is born, and I WANT IT!!!
@Austenista I'm so sorry you're going through this anxiety, and unfortunately fluctuating pregnancy hormones can make all of that worse. I second the suggestions to try to do stuff for yourself today to help calm your nerves. I'd also recommend that you try to keep busy. I think I'm most aware of bebe's movement or lack thereof when I'm not doing much, and when I'm busy, I'm more likely to assume she's fine and I'm just not feeling things. Additionally, at this stage of pregnancy the movement is still going to be fairly sporadic. The baby will sleep A LOT and only be awake for short periods. The baby might be doing a lot of its moving while you're asleep (mine likes to pick up right when I lay down to close my eyes). And there will totally be days when it seems like the baby isn't moving much, but all of that generally is pretty normal.
Self-care and distraction, though, hun. I hope your nerves ease soon and you're able to enjoy your day. <hugs>
@slartybartfast I have not read that book but will have to get it- DS and I LOVE Hippos Go Berserk. He generally just likes hippos and I like hearing him say "popo" because he can't say hippo yet.
ANYWHO...
Is it ok for me to make ten year olds my TWs? My 4/5 are killing me this morning with their attitudes! They don't want to try, they are lethargic, they are super emotional and they aren't following expectations. I have had like, 3 of them cry this morning over a test.
Also my school internet is a TW. I have 15 kids taking a test on a computer, which 3 of them are already crying about, and the internet is slow and annoying. There are enough computers for every kid in this school, but not enough bandwidth to support 15 computers being online at once.
Also the person whose idea it was to spend thousands of dollars on computers for every child k-8 at my school when the internet cannot and will not in the forseable future support such things is a TW.
I have lots of complaints today. I'll have to hang up the happy hippo angry duck quote by my desk to remind me to get it together, lol.
Today's TW is me. I just am wrecked emotionally from yesterday's worrying about Eaton moving (he's still moving, he wiggled all last night, and still moving this morning). He's okay. But I'm not. I ended up having an anxiety attack last night after he started moving again then stopped. Now today I'm feeling anxious, depressed, and on the verge of tears. I don't know what's wrong. I guess it's just residual. I'm just not okay.
On top of those feelings, I started a small group for church for expectant moms and we're supposed to meet for coffee/brunch this morning at 11:30. I've never met them before so it's a perfect combination of already feeling nuts to now having to go meet new people. I hope I'm able to pull it off and not be a basket case when we meet.
@Austenista I'm so sorry you're going through this! For what it's worth, I think you're going to be such a great mama. This is the beginning of many worries, and you're only concern is your little bean - how selfless! If it's any consolation, I wasn't feeling LO move much at all Friday night/Saturday this past weekend and the horrible thoughts kept creeping back in my mind.. "What if there's something wrong?" "If there is something wrong, what if my stubborn self waits too long to go in and then worse things happen?" Etc. I'm pretty sure DH thought I was a little crazy for feeling somewhat uneasy, but there's only so much he can understand since he doesn't have this little life inside him. He doesn't have a life to take care of until LO is born. Hugs & prayers to you!!
@Austenista I'm sorry you are feeling so anxious and distraught today--it is draining to feel low! Make self-care a priority today...and remember to reach out when you feel overwhelmed!
@Austenista I'm sorry you're going through that. When you feel an attack coming try to focus on your breathing. Take a breath, count to 5, release, count to 5, repeat. Do you use essential oils? If so, lavender is very calming. Or get a candle or spray with a scent that calms you and just breathe that in for a few minutes. I've had panic attacks since I was in high school and these are a few of the things that have helped me. I've had a few about Squish and even needed DH to hold my hand and just breathe with me for 5 minutes. Reach out to me if you need anything *hugs*
I don't know if I'm the TW or DH is. Christmas Eve is a big thing for him. Typically we host family and friends at our house Christmas Eve for a little Christmas dinner. I make a ham or turkey and others bring side dishes. He and I have been going back and forth over what we're doing this year with Squish and all. I have no clue when Squish is coming, and I'm not sure I'll be up to hosting several people in my home a few weeks postpartum. I don't know when Squish is coming, if I'll need a C-section or have had a vaginal birth, if there will be complications, if I'll be bedridden afterwards. There's just too much I don't know. So I want to cancel the Christmas Eve get together. He refuses to cancel it, says it is just too important to him culturally. He says it can be a lower scale than usual and no one can spend the night unless they sleep on the couches/air mattress downstairs. He also got mad when I suggested I stay upstairs in bed, saying he'll just tell people I don't feel like socializing. Dude, what if I can't leave bed!? I also don't want so many people around Squish, but DH has already stated he can't wait to show Squish off, that exposing Squish to germs early on is good for the immune system. I've agreed to play things by ear for now, but I just really don't want to deal with this on top of being a few weeks postpartum. Am I just being a TW?
Married 4/12/13 TTC since 6/13 Diagnosed w/ PCOS 4/9/15 - R/E recommended lifestyle change BFP 4/10/16 - DS born 12/16/2016 SURPRISE! BFP 3/8/18
@phoenix870509 you aren't being a TW. Maybe suggest that your DH can still host, but at a friends house. Having people over requires cleaning before&after, socializing, food, dishes, and both parties to be present.
Everyone is different PP. does he understand that you will be having a massive 2-8 week period, you will most likely be leaking BM, and will BOTH have 8-10 hrs of sleep for the week?
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Me: 28 H: 24 Married: 7/22/14 Baby L: 8/4/2015 August 2015 Moms Baby E: 11/18/2016 December 2016 Moms TTC #3 08/2017 BFP 11/27/2017. Twin B lost 11/22/2017, Twin A doing well.
@phoenix870509 So maybe a little too on the gross side, but at my birth class this week a mom just happened to deliver her baby in the birth center during our class. They brought the placenta out for us to see. They showed us the part that attaches to the uterus and explained that postpartum you have a wound that large inside your uterus. If that same wound were on the outside of you body, no one would expect you to be back at work or entertaining guests that soon.
Maybe you'll be feeling great by Christmas or maybe you won't. No one can know. It's one year. The world won't end if Christmas Eve isn't like normal this one year.
@phoenix870509 You are NOT the TW here. This is your postpartum recovery, and you're right to be hesitant because you don't know what it will entail. Having to clean a house and host guests is A LOT to ask someone who has just had a baby. I didn't have a difficult postpartum recovery, but I still REALLY needed time away from people. Our first few days we had so many visitors that it culminated in me having an anxiety attack and kicking my in laws out because I needed space. Even with a good recovery, you feel like a patient. It can be difficult to walk and everything is sore. Even though I might have looked normal to friends and family, I was sitting there with a swollen, bleeding, and ever-sore lady-cooch, and it just made me uncomfortable. Having to host people who are actually staying with you would be so much worse than just the frequent visitors. That said, I've known some women who really appreciate extra visitors postpartum because they may get more help with meals and housework.
In terms of germs and the bebe, I get your concerns. We got by with some giant containers of hand sanitizer, and we wouldn't let friends or family meet the baby for the first two months unless they had had a flu shot. DD met a lot of people in those first few months, and she never got sick until she went to daycare. That said, I still totally get the discomfort. I wouldn't want to be erring on the side of 'oh we'll strengthen that untested immune system' so early on either.
It sounds like you have some further discussion to do with your DH. Since he's not the one who will be going through the physical birth and recovery, it's important that he be understanding of your needs - physical, social, and emotional. I hope you can get this worked out. Keep discussing it!
@phoenix870509 Isn't your EDD 12/21? If so...your DH needs to be shaken and asked if he's living in the real world. I understand Christmas Eve being culturally significant (Feast of the Seven Fishes and presents on CE are typical in my cultures) but I think he is being selfish. I agree with @Kate08Young that is he has that much of a hard-on for Christmas Eve, someone else can host. Or he can take his happy ass in the kitchen and start cooking.
Your DH is one of the most stubborn I've ever read on this board lol. So...NO, you are not being a TW.
@dmontgo your response had me cracking up. No, EDD is 12/9 but everyone says Squish is coming early. The alternative would be traveling over an hour to be with his family which is out of the question. My parents host Christmas Day, so we're going to that but don't want to spend Christmas Eve there. My husband is super stubborn, but I can be just as stubborn which is why we are where we are now.
Married 4/12/13 TTC since 6/13 Diagnosed w/ PCOS 4/9/15 - R/E recommended lifestyle change BFP 4/10/16 - DS born 12/16/2016 SURPRISE! BFP 3/8/18
@phoenix870509 Lay down the lady law, mama! He's not pushing out a baby. If he wants to cook...he is more than happy to. Save the wishbone so he can make a wish none of the ladies from the Bump come and beat him up lol.
Yikes...if it's that important to him then he can cook, clean, etc. And make sure that he knows the risks of exposing an infant to all of those germs - particularly pertussis and flu. If people are coming over, they should have their vaccinations. I'm about 50/50 on whether we'll make people get flu shots, since they're not that effective anyway, but TDAP is a must, There have been many outbreaks of whooping cough in our areas - and not just among kids. That one can be really dangerous for an infant. Just my 2 cents.
I'd let your husband do the cleaning, prep, cooking, entertaining, and cleaning if it's so important to him. I'd then hide out in the nursery with the baby if you aren't feeling up to it.
What really hit me was that I'd feel fine while doing stuff, have no indication I was overdoing it, then feel like crud for days. So even if you think you feel up to things, you may end up paying for it later on. I did have a c section after 40+ hours of labor though and can't speak to an uncomplicated vaginal birth. But...you are healing inside either way much longer than you think.
@phoenix870509 I have thrown Thanksgiving pretty much since I got married because my grandmother hasn't been able to. Basically if we do anything now we do it at their house. She's on hospice care these days and my grandfather cares for her in the between times. So what we do is we either cater everything (Bbq for non holidays, for example) and use the minimum of dishes that must be washed. OR say like for Thanksgiving I cook as much as I can at my house and then cook the rest in their kitchen. I bring all my own utensils and containers, etc.
When we've eaten, then as many people who are feeling like a quality human clean their kitchen, dining room, and living room until it's back to normal. We leave it just how we found it, minus some leftovers in the fridge for them to enjoy. We never leave anything for my papa to do. Even the couch cushions are put back exactly how they had them.
IF you feel up to having guests, then something like that should be arranged. You sit back and let them have the party and you concentrate on enjoying yourself. And then everyone must understand that they'll be cleaning up 100% for you after.
However, if you're not wanting to do that, no is your word. Saying no is so hard for me because I'm a people pleaser so I understand how difficult that can be sometimes, especially for the ones you love. That said, though, you stand up for yourself and say no. They can have thanksgiving early or somewhere else or not at all. It's not your job to host them though when you're dealing with the aftermath of delivery. Put yourself in their shoes. Would you expect someone who'd just had a baby to host a party for you? If you react strongly in the negative like most decent people would, there's your answer.
Christmas Eve is HUGE in my family and also my birthday. That being said, we canceled the hugeness this year. It is was it is, this would be a battle worth fighting for me. I hope it gets straightened out for you!
@phoenix870509 I agree with PPs that you are not the TW here. It is totally understandable to not want to host a major holiday gathering right after giving birth! I'd suggest letting the issue go for now and revisiting it later with the goal of coming up with a compromise. My husband seems to kind of live in a fantasy land right now where he's not really grasping how real shit is about to get, so maybe your husband is in a similar place and not really understanding how tough the first few weeks can be. I wouldn't be surprised if he very quickly changed his tune once baby is born, but obviously you probably want to make plans now rather than waiting for him to come to his senses.
FWIW, we normally host Christmas day. I cook a ham and all the sides for a small group (me, DH, DS, my parents, DS's dad). This year people can still come over but I'm going to insist that either someone else cooks AND cleans, or we get food catered. I'm also going to insist that everyone's vaccinated if they want to hold the baby.
@phoenix870509- I can understand the cultural importance of things. I also understand extremely demanding/stubborn family members. I agree with everyone that you may feel up to it, or you may not. And even if you do and you over do it you will feel like crap for the next few days.
One thing you could do is have him go with you to your next OB's appointment and ask him/her to explain to him the birthing process and the first few weeks after birth, what it entails, what healing is like both vaginally and C-section, the massive swing in hormone levels you'll be experiencing and what caring for a newborn is like those first few weeks (I can't remember if you are a FTM- so ignore this if you aren't).
After leaving I would gently remind him that he can add cleaning, cooking and then recleaning the house once everyone is gone to helping feed the baby every 3 hours, diapering and lack of sleep to his CE nightly duties.
If the OB's "medical" advice doesn't scare him into not having a bunch of people over to your house, then I would absolutely make an "appearance" downstairs and tell everyone that you are still recovering and are having a hard time with the lack of sleep from the baby's arrival. I'm quite positive that people will understand.
Oh and testing the baby's immune system- a newborn baby's immune system is vastly different and much more susceptible than an older baby's immune system. My DS got RSV at 11 weeks old at daycare and his pulmonologist believes it was a major contributing factor to his asthma, which he now lives with.
Thanks everyone who chimed in with good advice and encouragement earlier. I got dressed and just left the house. I had my small group, had a good time. Now I'm treating myself to lunch and shopping. I feel much better. I'm going to bookmark this experience as what I should do when I'm feeling some kinda way like I was this morning, instead of just sitting there feeling awful.
I know everyone is different but I had an extremely uncomplicated birth, a good BFing relationships early on, and I could barely host my DS' baptism party at six weeks PP. There is NO WAY I would be hosting Christmas Eve.
Christmas Eve is a thing for my family too. My aunt hosts and all of that side of the family gathers every year. It's the one time you can count of everyone being there (large family). I am not planning on going this year. I'm due 12/30 and whether I've had the baby or not, I'm not risking traveling an hour away to the middle of no where and possible go into labor. Not gonna happen. Fortunately, it's my side of the family so DH doesn't care and I'm sure my relatives will all understand. If anyone gets upset it will be my mom even though it's for my dad's side of the family.
Me: 26 & DH: 25
Married: August 2014 TTC since November 2015 BFP #1 12/17/15 - MC 1/28/16 BFP #2 4/22/16 - EDD 12/30/16
I just need to complain... DH is going to a football game on Saturday. My plan was to go to my parents farm to spend time with them to watch the game. SIL just called and said they can't find a baby sitter (she's typically last minute- huge pet peeve of mine) and they were thinking of splitting their 4 kids up to several people if they'd be willing to help. So, out of her kids (ages 8, 5, 3.5, 1.5) she asks me to watch the nearing 2 year old who is spoiled rotten. It's just a first world problem.. but that is the 2nd time we've (I've) been asked to watch kids from my husbands side of the family in the last month on a Saturday night. I'd be more comfortable if it were my own family. It's not that it's a huuuuge problem for me.. but the fact that 1) I don't even have kids yet and 2) I'm 6 months pregnant I thought would be a bit of a 'hey let's not ask her' hint. The more annoying situation was when we were asked the first time by DH's brother's wife (different SIL) - they didn't even need a sitter.. they went to the theater and watched a cartoon because she thought it would "be good practice" for us to watch their kid. I will freaking ask you to babysit if I want "practice".
@temmetime Repeat after me: "I'm sorry, I already have plans."
I'm all for helping family out, but you really do have plans and SIL is last minute. If you are always willing to drop everything to do her, it will always keep happening.
My TW is work. Sigh. I've been temporarily reassigned until I go out on maternity level to write reports full-time which I don't mind because it's pretty easy stuff and it takes some stress off myself these last few months. However, one of the ladies that has been doing this job full time for years has gotten so behind in the last few weeks some how and hasn't said anything.... until today. She asked me this morning if I could help her as she has multiple reports that need to be written, reviewed, and signed all by Friday.
I don't know why she waited so long to say something but now it looks like I'll be a busy bee for the rest of the week.
Me (28), H (30) Together Since 04/21/2009; Married Since 05/29/2013
@phoenix870509 I agree with everyone that you are not the TW. I wanted to ask - have you done a childbirth class yet? My DH was a lot like yours, thinking we could do a lot right after baby was born etc. but we had our childbirth class on Saturday and that has been a HUGE wake up call for him. I think he thought I was exaggerating or doing a worst case scenario thing - but listening to a doula talk about post partumn recovery was some type of breakthrough for him. Sometimes people need to hear it from an "authority" rather than you. Now my DH is pretty apologetic about not believing me when I was talking about how prepared we need to be!
My TWs are my two good friends from college who are coming to visit this weekend. I hesitate to call them TWs because I seriously love them and I'm so excited they're coming. BUT they just told me last week that they're arriving at midnight. At the airport an hour away. I had told them I'd pick them up, that they didn't have to rent a car, and I totally don't mind doing that...but not at midnight. It's a done deal, I know they were getting tickets last minute and it was probably slim pickings, and DH can get them if I'm passed out (it'll be awkward though because he doesn't know them). I just wouldn't ask that of a pregnant friend without checking in about it first, and I'm sad that I can't be 100% excited about their visit.
@phoenix870509 - your DH is being the TW for sure, but I'm also kind of in the camp of "wait it out and let him realize this is a terrible idea when it's much closer". It sounds like no matter what you do or say, he's not going to change his mind, so I'm not sure there's a point in arguing now.
@temmetime - agree with above, just tell her you already have plans. Your incompetence does not cause my emergency.
I just started typing out a big long post about how DH and I are disagreeing on the direction of renovations and realized it was just rambling complaining. Suffice to say he is pissing me off right now, wanting to spend basically every cent we have on an addition instead of considering reconfiguring our existing space, which is totally doable within our budget and would not only get us a nursery, it would get us a second full bathroom. Our current bathroom is tiny, I REALLY want the second full one. If we do the addition we are going to have no cushion in savings, and no second bathroom!
My TW is the dog, he cried to go out at 11. He comes back sprayed by a skunk and before I realize what happened he was rolling on the bed. Sigh.
You can't change what happened, I accept it happened and do what I can to fix it in the middle of the night. For the hubby the world is ending and the house will never be the same and the smell with sink into the walls. He walked around smelling stuff and throwing it all over saying it was ruined. Sigh.
On the bright side, the dog already has a hair appt tomorrow so he should be smell free soon. The house, we will see. There might be casualties and that might include our fairly new mattress.
Hubs is is safely in our basement (it's finished) sleeping. I am holding down the fort with door and windows open and fans running. This too shall pass!
@phoenix870509 your DH is definitely the TW. You may be fine and feel like hosting people...but having done the newborn thing before...there is a really high probability this will be a very, very low key Christmas for you. DH wants to host a huge Thanksgiving at our place and I'm already dreading it and Bodhi won't even be here yet.
My TW is MIL. She has stayed at my house to watch DSD the last few days. The woman is on a strict diet and was recently hospitalized. She has Type 2 diabetes that she was not taking control of. She had gotten better. I had a half bag of candy corn on the kitchen counter. Rolled up, put away with the rest of my "I'm pregnant, these are mine" treats. There were literally 4 "kernels" left in the bag. FOUR. DH doesn't eat it and I'm quite sure I would have gotten a call from the school about a sick and/or hyperactive child if DS had scarfed that down before school.
A) You don't touch a pregnant woman's craving stash, you aren't supposed to be eating pure f-ing sugar, C) who leaves 4 measly "kernels?" Just finish the damn bag and apologize for it. You aren't hiding anything.
Thanks everyone. I can't talk any sense into DH. Because he's watched his mom go through this 3 times plus numerous female family members he thinks he is an expert. I tried explaining every woman is different, to which he countered he knew because he'd seen it in his family. Our birthing class isn't until October and I doubt that'll knock any sense into him. His parents will be down for Christmas this year (because first grandchild and all) and I'm seriously considering recruiting his mother to my side. Or asking her to do all the cooking and just bring all of the food to our place/finish cooking at our place. She'd do it in a heartbeat, there's nothing she loves more than cooking for her huge family. DH and I agreed yesterday to not talk about Christmas again until mid-December so we shall see.
Married 4/12/13 TTC since 6/13 Diagnosed w/ PCOS 4/9/15 - R/E recommended lifestyle change BFP 4/10/16 - DS born 12/16/2016 SURPRISE! BFP 3/8/18
@mrsmerc2015 That's a total no-no! If I was going to steal someone's stash, I would've just eaten all of them and trashed the empty bag evidence. That's like leaving 2 chips in a bag.
@phoenix870509 This may be an UO, but I'd totally recruit his mom to help. Sorry your DH is being stubborn. It sounds like tabling the issue is a good idea.
@phoenix870509 This may be an UO, but I'd totally recruit his mom to help. Sorry your DH is being stubborn. It sounds like tabling the issue is a good idea.
+1 to this. Heck, I think it sounds kind of nice to have people lined up and agree to do all the cooking and clean-up AND have a ready made excuse to dip off for as long/often as you need during the gathering. All without leaving your home! Yes... that could work quite nicely. I may have to steal this approach.
@mrsmerc2015 I have a similar rant. I have to take thyroid meds, which means I can't eat for an hour after taking them first thing in the morning. That hour usually expires when I'm walking to the train. By the time I get to the office and eat an actual breakfast I'm starving tot he point of feeling like I"m going to throw up - it's the only time I really feel nauseous. So I keep a stash of luna bars that I take with me on my commute so I can have at least a little something in my belly to tide me over until I can get to some real food.
This morning I went to the cabinet where I keep them and they're all gone. There should have been at least two left. My stepson denies eating them, but he is a sugar fiend and sneaks sweets all the time (we find hidden cans of empty soda stashed in various closets in the house - we don't usually keep it around but had leftovers from a BBQ a while back). I made sure to tell him they're for women's nutrition, maybe that will be some kind of a deterrent in the future. Add that to my husband being incredibly stubborn about our renovation plans and people at work being jerks, and I'm just ready to rage on someone today. I plan to keep my office door closed as much as possible today.
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Work is my TW! Sooo...I took a $15k/yr pay cut for my new job because once I'm done with this fellowship, my salary should jump far higher than it would have had I gone straight into a grown up research job. One of the small benefits they were able to promise me was a conference stipend to support my travel and presentations at different conferences. It's the last day for early registration to a major conference, and my mentor just informed me that they have officially "done away with" the conference stipend due to budget cuts. So I'm left with the prospect of paying a significant amount of money for a conference that should be comped for me. My mentor was very apologetic, and it's not her fault. But I'm feeling really frustrated and sort of taken advantage of. The conference is pretty necessary for my career, and I won't be able to go next year. So now I have to figure out how to save up +$1k to pay for all of this asap...on top of the whole baby thing.
I'm annoyed and exhausted.
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On top of those feelings, I started a small group for church for expectant moms and we're supposed to meet for coffee/brunch this morning at 11:30. I've never met them before so it's a perfect combination of already feeling nuts to now having to go meet new people. I hope I'm able to pull it off and not be a basket case when we meet.
Sorry - my only words of wisdom or comfort come from children's books now. This is compliments of Sandra Boynton. Happy Hippo, Angry Duck.
Is there anything you can do that helps you get calm? Some things that work for me are prayer, a walk, a hot shower, calling my mom or a girlfriend, reading inspirational quotes, deep breathing, making lists, cleaning the house, getting a pedicure. Anything you can do for yourself?
I totally understand that being with others probably doesn't seem like something you want to do today, but maybe it'll help a bit? I tend to isolate when I'm feeling bad, and if I force myself to socialize, it can be helpful.
Anyway, hugs ! You're not alone.
Me: 33 H: 36
Married: 12/14/13 DS: 1/29/09
BFP2: 10/9/15 MMC: 11/12/15
BFP3: 4/6/16 DD: 12/12/16
@slartybartfast I wish I could! Unfortunately this is a big, international conference, and I'm just presenting an abstract. So it's no big deal to them if I drop out. I do think they have some hotel and flight discounts I'm going to try to capitalize on. AND I just realized that I still qualify for student pricing since I'm in a fellowship. So that knocks about $200 off the costs. I still really want to go - it'll be our last trip before the spawn is born, and I WANT IT!!!
@Austenista I'm so sorry you're going through this anxiety, and unfortunately fluctuating pregnancy hormones can make all of that worse. I second the suggestions to try to do stuff for yourself today to help calm your nerves. I'd also recommend that you try to keep busy. I think I'm most aware of bebe's movement or lack thereof when I'm not doing much, and when I'm busy, I'm more likely to assume she's fine and I'm just not feeling things. Additionally, at this stage of pregnancy the movement is still going to be fairly sporadic. The baby will sleep A LOT and only be awake for short periods. The baby might be doing a lot of its moving while you're asleep (mine likes to pick up right when I lay down to close my eyes). And there will totally be days when it seems like the baby isn't moving much, but all of that generally is pretty normal.
Self-care and distraction, though, hun. I hope your nerves ease soon and you're able to enjoy your day. <hugs>
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ANYWHO...
Is it ok for me to make ten year olds my TWs? My 4/5 are killing me this morning with their attitudes! They don't want to try, they are lethargic, they are super emotional and they aren't following expectations. I have had like, 3 of them cry this morning over a test.
Also my school internet is a TW. I have 15 kids taking a test on a computer, which 3 of them are already crying about, and the internet is slow and annoying. There are enough computers for every kid in this school, but not enough bandwidth to support 15 computers being online at once.
Also the person whose idea it was to spend thousands of dollars on computers for every child k-8 at my school when the internet cannot and will not in the forseable future support such things is a TW.
I have lots of complaints today. I'll have to hang up the happy hippo angry duck quote by my desk to remind me to get it together, lol.
@Austenista I'm so sorry you're going through this! For what it's worth, I think you're going to be such a great mama. This is the beginning of many worries, and you're only concern is your little bean - how selfless! If it's any consolation, I wasn't feeling LO move much at all Friday night/Saturday this past weekend and the horrible thoughts kept creeping back in my mind.. "What if there's something wrong?" "If there is something wrong, what if my stubborn self waits too long to go in and then worse things happen?" Etc. I'm pretty sure DH thought I was a little crazy for feeling somewhat uneasy, but there's only so much he can understand since he doesn't have this little life inside him. He doesn't have a life to take care of until LO is born. Hugs & prayers to you!!
DS: 12/20/16
EDD: 11/29/18
I don't know if I'm the TW or DH is. Christmas Eve is a big thing for him. Typically we host family and friends at our house Christmas Eve for a little Christmas dinner. I make a ham or turkey and others bring side dishes. He and I have been going back and forth over what we're doing this year with Squish and all. I have no clue when Squish is coming, and I'm not sure I'll be up to hosting several people in my home a few weeks postpartum. I don't know when Squish is coming, if I'll need a C-section or have had a vaginal birth, if there will be complications, if I'll be bedridden afterwards. There's just too much I don't know. So I want to cancel the Christmas Eve get together. He refuses to cancel it, says it is just too important to him culturally. He says it can be a lower scale than usual and no one can spend the night unless they sleep on the couches/air mattress downstairs. He also got mad when I suggested I stay upstairs in bed, saying he'll just tell people I don't feel like socializing. Dude, what if I can't leave bed!? I also don't want so many people around Squish, but DH has already stated he can't wait to show Squish off, that exposing Squish to germs early on is good for the immune system. I've agreed to play things by ear for now, but I just really don't want to deal with this on top of being a few weeks postpartum. Am I just being a TW?
TTC since 6/13
Diagnosed w/ PCOS 4/9/15 - R/E recommended lifestyle change
BFP 4/10/16 - DS born 12/16/2016
SURPRISE! BFP 3/8/18
Everyone is different PP. does he understand that you will be having a massive 2-8 week period, you will most likely be leaking BM, and will BOTH have 8-10 hrs of sleep for the week?
Formerly known as Kate08young
August '18 Siggy April Showers:
Married: 7/22/14
Baby L: 8/4/2015 August 2015 Moms
Baby E: 11/18/2016 December 2016 Moms
TTC #3 08/2017 BFP 11/27/2017.
Twin B lost 11/22/2017, Twin A doing well.
Maybe you'll be feeling great by Christmas or maybe you won't. No one can know. It's one year. The world won't end if Christmas Eve isn't like normal this one year.
@phoenix870509 You are NOT the TW here. This is your postpartum recovery, and you're right to be hesitant because you don't know what it will entail. Having to clean a house and host guests is A LOT to ask someone who has just had a baby. I didn't have a difficult postpartum recovery, but I still REALLY needed time away from people. Our first few days we had so many visitors that it culminated in me having an anxiety attack and kicking my in laws out because I needed space. Even with a good recovery, you feel like a patient. It can be difficult to walk and everything is sore. Even though I might have looked normal to friends and family, I was sitting there with a swollen, bleeding, and ever-sore lady-cooch, and it just made me uncomfortable. Having to host people who are actually staying with you would be so much worse than just the frequent visitors. That said, I've known some women who really appreciate extra visitors postpartum because they may get more help with meals and housework.
In terms of germs and the bebe, I get your concerns. We got by with some giant containers of hand sanitizer, and we wouldn't let friends or family meet the baby for the first two months unless they had had a flu shot. DD met a lot of people in those first few months, and she never got sick until she went to daycare. That said, I still totally get the discomfort. I wouldn't want to be erring on the side of 'oh we'll strengthen that untested immune system' so early on either.
It sounds like you have some further discussion to do with your DH. Since he's not the one who will be going through the physical birth and recovery, it's important that he be understanding of your needs - physical, social, and emotional. I hope you can get this worked out. Keep discussing it!
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Your DH is one of the most stubborn I've ever read on this board lol. So...NO, you are not being a TW.
TTC since 6/13
Diagnosed w/ PCOS 4/9/15 - R/E recommended lifestyle change
BFP 4/10/16 - DS born 12/16/2016
SURPRISE! BFP 3/8/18
What really hit me was that I'd feel fine while doing stuff, have no indication I was overdoing it, then feel like crud for days. So even if you think you feel up to things, you may end up paying for it later on. I did have a c section after 40+ hours of labor though and can't speak to an uncomplicated vaginal birth. But...you are healing inside either way much longer than you think.
When we've eaten, then as many people who are feeling like a quality human clean their kitchen, dining room, and living room until it's back to normal. We leave it just how we found it, minus some leftovers in the fridge for them to enjoy. We never leave anything for my papa to do. Even the couch cushions are put back exactly how they had them.
IF you feel up to having guests, then something like that should be arranged. You sit back and let them have the party and you concentrate on enjoying yourself. And then everyone must understand that they'll be cleaning up 100% for you after.
However, if you're not wanting to do that, no is your word. Saying no is so hard for me because I'm a people pleaser so I understand how difficult that can be sometimes, especially for the ones you love. That said, though, you stand up for yourself and say no. They can have thanksgiving early or somewhere else or not at all. It's not your job to host them though when you're dealing with the aftermath of delivery. Put yourself in their shoes. Would you expect someone who'd just had a baby to host a party for you? If you react strongly in the negative like most decent people would, there's your answer.
FWIW, we normally host Christmas day. I cook a ham and all the sides for a small group (me, DH, DS, my parents, DS's dad). This year people can still come over but I'm going to insist that either someone else cooks AND cleans, or we get food catered. I'm also going to insist that everyone's vaccinated if they want to hold the baby.
Me: 33 H: 36
Married: 12/14/13 DS: 1/29/09
BFP2: 10/9/15 MMC: 11/12/15
BFP3: 4/6/16 DD: 12/12/16
@phoenix870509- I can understand the cultural importance of things. I also understand extremely demanding/stubborn family members. I agree with everyone that you may feel up to it, or you may not. And even if you do and you over do it you will feel like crap for the next few days.
One thing you could do is have him go with you to your next OB's appointment and ask him/her to explain to him the birthing process and the first few weeks after birth, what it entails, what healing is like both vaginally and C-section, the massive swing in hormone levels you'll be experiencing and what caring for a newborn is like those first few weeks (I can't remember if you are a FTM- so ignore this if you aren't).
After leaving I would gently remind him that he can add cleaning, cooking and then recleaning the house once everyone is gone to helping feed the baby every 3 hours, diapering and lack of sleep to his CE nightly duties.
If the OB's "medical" advice doesn't scare him into not having a bunch of people over to your house, then I would absolutely make an "appearance" downstairs and tell everyone that you are still recovering and are having a hard time with the lack of sleep from the baby's arrival. I'm quite positive that people will understand.
Oh and testing the baby's immune system- a newborn baby's immune system is vastly different and much more susceptible than an older baby's immune system. My DS got RSV at 11 weeks old at daycare and his pulmonologist believes it was a major contributing factor to his asthma, which he now lives with.
TTC since November 2015
BFP #1 12/17/15 - MC 1/28/16
BFP #2 4/22/16 - EDD 12/30/16
DS: 12/20/16
EDD: 11/29/18
I'm all for helping family out, but you really do have plans and SIL is last minute. If you are always willing to drop everything to do her, it will always keep happening.
My TW is work. Sigh. I've been temporarily reassigned until I go out on maternity level to write reports full-time which I don't mind because it's pretty easy stuff and it takes some stress off myself these last few months. However, one of the ladies that has been doing this job full time for years has gotten so behind in the last few weeks some how and hasn't said anything.... until today. She asked me this morning if I could help her as she has multiple reports that need to be written, reviewed, and signed all by Friday.
I don't know why she waited so long to say something but now it looks like I'll be a busy bee for the rest of the week.
Together Since 04/21/2009; Married Since 05/29/2013
Baby Boy born 11/30/16
Baby #2 Due December 4
@phoenix870509 - your DH is being the TW for sure, but I'm also kind of in the camp of "wait it out and let him realize this is a terrible idea when it's much closer". It sounds like no matter what you do or say, he's not going to change his mind, so I'm not sure there's a point in arguing now.
@temmetime - agree with above, just tell her you already have plans. Your incompetence does not cause my emergency.
You can't change what happened, I accept it happened and do what I can to fix it in the middle of the night. For the hubby the world is ending and the house will never be the same and the smell with sink into the walls. He walked around smelling stuff and throwing it all over saying it was ruined. Sigh.
On the bright side, the dog already has a hair appt tomorrow so he should be smell free soon. The house, we will see. There might be casualties and that might include our fairly new mattress.
Hubs is is safely in our basement (it's finished) sleeping. I am holding down the fort with door and windows open and fans running. This too shall pass!
My TW is MIL. She has stayed at my house to watch DSD the last few days. The woman is on a strict diet and was recently hospitalized. She has Type 2 diabetes that she was not taking control of. She had gotten better. I had a half bag of candy corn on the kitchen counter. Rolled up, put away with the rest of my "I'm pregnant, these are mine" treats. There were literally 4 "kernels" left in the bag. FOUR. DH doesn't eat it and I'm quite sure I would have gotten a call from the school about a sick and/or hyperactive child if DS had scarfed that down before school.
A) You don't touch a pregnant woman's craving stash,
TTC since 6/13
Diagnosed w/ PCOS 4/9/15 - R/E recommended lifestyle change
BFP 4/10/16 - DS born 12/16/2016
SURPRISE! BFP 3/8/18
DS: 12/20/16
EDD: 11/29/18
Me: 33 H: 36
Married: 12/14/13 DS: 1/29/09
BFP2: 10/9/15 MMC: 11/12/15
BFP3: 4/6/16 DD: 12/12/16
This morning I went to the cabinet where I keep them and they're all gone. There should have been at least two left. My stepson denies eating them, but he is a sugar fiend and sneaks sweets all the time (we find hidden cans of empty soda stashed in various closets in the house - we don't usually keep it around but had leftovers from a BBQ a while back). I made sure to tell him they're for women's nutrition, maybe that will be some kind of a deterrent in the future. Add that to my husband being incredibly stubborn about our renovation plans and people at work being jerks, and I'm just ready to rage on someone today. I plan to keep my office door closed as much as possible today.