September WTO

chloe97 · September 2016

It's a new month and a new cycle! This is the place to rant and rave about waiting to ovulate! Fx for on time ovulation and well-times baby-dancing for everyone!

chloe97 · September 2016

I'm on CD 11 and have officially missed the deadline for the saline sonogram this month. I had to cancel my appt on Tuesday bc work for crazy. Honestly, my AF was 2-3 times longer than my first post-D&C cycle so I'm less freaked out about scarring than I had been.

I'm still on the fence on whether to try this month. My original plan was to start TTC again in September, but I never expected my post-D&C cycle to be 72 days long. I thought I'd get 3 cycles in and not 2. I wanted to be better at following the egg quality diet.

I lurk over in the TTCAL grad group and saw that 2 TTCAL grads had MMCs in the last 24 hrs. So shitty and unfair and freaking me out. Am I ready to go through this again? Any others on the fence?

amberruka · September 2016

The TTCAL Aug grad thread? I'm not seeing that....?

CD6. But until after our trip to NOLA in Oct we might be lucky if we BD 2x during FW. I think because I had so long to wait/benched I am okay again, but I certainly wasn't for, I don't know, at least 3-4 months? I couldn't even imagine it. Then again at the time, I didn't have a choice--had a big ol' goiter and a bunch of weird thyroid hormones.

Had a horrible nightmare about having a baby last night. So horrible I can't even write it down. Scared the s*%t out of me. Hopefully a one-off.

chloe97 · September 2016

@amberruka I hate bad dreams about babies and pregnancies. I know how triggering they can be.

There was a decision to create a group of TTCAL-er grads rather than all hang out on PGAL where there were others who didn't participate in TTCAL. Some of us asked to be added proactively to lurk and provide encouragement (this was pre-TTCAL grads thread started). Those ladies were AMAZING to me during my last pregnancy and would lurk from TTCAL on PGAL to support me the 7 weeks between when I had a very bad beta doubling time and finally got my Triploidy diagnosis, so I like to lurk and support them as well. I'm not sure who the group leader is since @SnobunnieMel got banned (if only we knew where to find her!), but I'm sure you could get added to the group if interested.

amberruka · September 2016

Yes, hmmm......wonder where she could be?

Thanks for the info. I'm finally able to lurk on PGAL some now and that gives me hope. That would be nice to be added but no pressure or hurry, and if anyone's uncomfortable that's totally fine. That's so sad though.

DungeonTrollMel · September 2016

@chloe97 I keep up with Them everyday and I am heartbroken this week. There were 5 ladies with scans today and it's been a rough round for everyone.

Just request admission and I can let you in if you want to lurk. I am still an admin since I am over here and can invite people as soon as they get a BFP from this side. It's like secret Intel

rainbowturtles · September 2016

Oh man, I just rushed over to check in and how incredibly heartbreaking. DAMMIT!!!

afm, I think I O'd but my temping (and sleep) is leaving something to be desired this cycle. We'll see what happens, but trying not to stress. Will HIO when DH recovers, just in case.

roxgibbons · September 2016

@DungeonTrollMel can you send me an invite? I'd like to provide support. That's terrible and I hate that these ladies are going through this again.

@amberruka I'm sorry about the bad dream and I hope it was a one time thing for you.

fivetimesnoluck · September 2016

I don't know how to find groups from mobile,(Not the app just the website) but I'm devastated just knowing that any of our girls have had another loss. Please send my love and creepy internet hugs.

Taggarab · September 2016

Ugh...I hate hearing that any grads from here are having to deal with loss again

@DungeonTrollMel could you add me to the grad group for support purposes?

brooklyngirl18 · September 2016

@DungeonTrollMel can you please add me as well? i'd love to support our ladies. so so sad.

JDW0325 · September 2016

I would like to be added as well
I feel so sad for them. Big huge creepy internet hugs

Aera11 · September 2016

Oh no! That's horrible

@DungeonTrollMel can you add me too? I can't find it.

Taggarab · September 2016

All I have to say is, with all the BDing that has been going on around here, it's gonna kill me if this isn't our month again. We have pretty much been doing ED for a week. Got a positive OPK yesterday, but no temp drop this morning so maybe tomorrow? Depending on when you O, is there always a drop or does it just rise sometimes?

chloe97 · September 2016

@Taggarab I have had it both ways. Before my last MC my temp always dropped at o, but this last cycle it stayed steady and then rose.

brooklyngirl18 · September 2016

@Taggarab I've had it both ways also. Some months I have a slight dip at O and other months I don't and then my crosshairs change a few times. super frustrating, I hope you get a clear answer soon.

Taggarab · September 2016

Thanks @chloe97 and @brooklyngirl18. I normally do get a dip, but I guess there's a first time for everything right?

I have to admit I am feeling down about it all as I think I am having O pains on my right side so no tube for the egg over there. I have been thinking about finding a counselor because my moods have been doing crazy swings recently. Admitting you can't handle it all is not very easy though.

chloe97 · September 2016

@Taggarab I'm pretty sure that it's possible for your left tube to take over for your right tube if that's the side you ovulate this month. It's one of those weird things that the body does to compensate.

Aera11 · September 2016

@Taggarab I am sorry you're having a hard time, this process is so emotional. I see a therapist on and off but I have to pay out of pocket and it's too expensive, so I go when I really need it. I have thought about going to a support group in the area that is infertility + loss related. I don't know if it would help or make me even more depressed, but I think I am going to try it once and go from there.

AFM, I went in for CD8 bloodwork and everything came back good so I have to go back Sunday am for an u/s and another blood draw. Talk about a damper in the middle of a holiday weekend...

CTRMommyof4 · September 2016

CD 4 for me, bought the super fancy, expensive Clearblue ovulation tests to use this month. Fingers crossed.

yolandamunoz · September 2016

Hello ladies

I've been benched for some months but now I am officially WTO!

I've had 2 MC this year (blighted ovum in Feb and CP in May). They discovered I have hiper insulinemia and hiper prolactinemia, both things under control with meds and diet.

Today I went to my RE. My latest tests were good news! My prolactin is normal with this new meds, and my anti B2 test was negative, so I don't really have APS after all.

I am good to go this month, and next month we will try with some help from medicines (Femara, progesterone).

DH and I thought that we could try "naturally" this month, and hope for the best.

I am heartbroken to learn about recent MCs of our grads... So sorry this is happening, I hope the ladies are feeling better little by little.

-Hugs
Y

fivetimesnoluck · September 2016

Been keeping up, but trying not to obsess! Hope you all are doing well!

I am good to go for IUI #2. We will trigger tomorrow and have the procedure on Friday. One great, round follicle captured on camera! Fingers crossed!

Cmckenzie · September 2016

CD 12 and been having a bit of cramping, but no positive opk. This is my last cycle before I go to a RE. Crazy that I scheduled this appointment 2 months ago. A bit nervous this cycle, but decided to just have faith and relax. Of course I haven't got to the tww yet so....we all know how that goes.

fivetimesnoluck · September 2016

Okay, TTC brain trust - I need your opinions. We were given instructions to have relations yesterday, trigger today and IUI on Friday.

Well since it was DH's birthday, I gave him a BJ yesterday morning before we got our instructions. Then last night we both fell asleep on the couch before relations were had. (Oops, we're old.)

I don't always have the perfect CM when I am on these medicated cycles, but it sprung up yesterday and this morning like the old days! The LH test I had yesterday returned at 7.5, so I know we are just gearing up and the timing is right, but my question is, do I seduce DH this afternoon or should I have him save up all his swimmers for Friday morning and then have relations after the IUI for insurance?

Male factor has been an issue, but is not our primary problem. Last procedure, we had 6 million post-wash. Not great, but decent numbers. I am not sure what to do.

DungeonTrollMel · September 2016

@yolandamunoz congrats for finally getting off the bench!! I know this has been a long process for you

2fitBees · September 2016

**TW**

@chloe97 I'm on the fence more than I've ever been. SIL#1 is currently PG (EDD around my birthday) and SIL#2 had her baby in July. DH and I are the only ones out of his siblings (with partners) who haven't had a baby yet. So there's that, but there's also this innate desire to be pregnant- like it's what is right, what I'm supposed to do right now. I've tried to stifle this feeling while I've been bouncing back from MMC#2, but I feel very strongly that our third time will be the charm, so I also don't want to waste time. I know it may seem selfish, but DH and I are so close to being debt free, so I feel waiting could be good in the long run. I just keep going back and forth, there are so many factors on either side of the "fence", however the strongest factor is that I feel like getting PG is what is right for me at the moment. Sometimes I feel so selfish for worrying about other things, but I think what it comes down to is that I so don't want to go through another MC. My heart aches for the Aug grads going through this tough time..

I just started BBT temping in the mornings, so I can better understand my cycle. It is so very hard not to obsess!

beary67 · September 2016

I'm so sorry to hear about the recent losses from recent grads. I'm keeping everyone in my thoughts.

@fivetimesnoluck can you call the RE and ask him/her what to do? I'm thinking if you were told to abstain for 2 days it was because of the MFI. You might want to call and see if you have the 'ok' to have intercourse tonight an then abstain for one day before the IUI on Friday. That's what I would do if I were in your situation.

I'm on CD 9 and go in for my follicle scan on Friday morning. This is my first medicated/IUI cycle after our loss, so I'm nervous about everything and just really hoping my lining looks great and I have some great follicles.

chloe97 · September 2016

I'm sorry I don't know what to tell you
@fivetimesnoluck. If it were me, I'd seduce him today. I think 36 hours should be enough time for his supply to replenish. The SMEP program has you BD ED with a positive OPK- so I'd imagine a 36 hour window wouldn't do much to the count, but I don't know a ton about MFI.

AFM I'm on CD 17, no sign of ovulation and I just realized I'm not supposed to be taking Advil. I've had a massive headache the last day and a half and have scarfed down 6 the last 2 days. Shit. I need to throw the Tylenol back in my purse. DH and I were going to BD tonight, now I'm freaking about if we should even take that risk. Can Advil harm egg quality??

I'm not even pisssed about missing this cycle- I'm annoyed that my next cycle is going to be delayed. I had high hopes of having the same due date (my grandmas birthday) as my first pregnancy.

yolandamunoz · September 2016

Hey @fivetimesnoluck seduce him tonight! Our doctor told us 2 days is plenty male rest, so I'd go for it! And then again on Friday hehehe!

thank you @DungeonTrollMel yes! It's been quite a long process for us, my first due date is next week and in October it will be a year TTC.

I am also worried about egg quality @chloe97 . My RE told me that my high insulin and prolactin levels could have influence in producing bad eggs that ended up in MC, for those 2 times I was pregnant. That's the only input I have regarding egg quality and things that affect them... Good luck!

waitingforblueskies · September 2016

Sorry if this is a silly question..I have been trying to read up on it, but there are so many different insights, so maybe you all would have some insight from experience! DH and I BD on Monday (I had just returned from a 3 day trip and it was the first time since our loss, which was hard and I cried afterward) but I had a negative OPK that afternoon. Then I had a positive OPK on Tuesday afternoon, so we BD again last night. This morning (Wednesday) the OPK was negative again. Should we do it again tonight or wait a night and BD on Thursday? I don't want to lower his sperm count, although we don't know that we have any concerns in that area.

Last cycle, I had a positive OPK on CD 25, Tuesday was CD 20- but since I have irregular cycles, cycle timing isn't all that reliable. I don't temp, because I always end up waking up to wee at about 630 and can't wait to temp before getting up. So I don't know that I am calm enough from 630-7 when my alarm goes off to temp then.

RiverSong15 · September 2016

@waitingforblueskies - a positive usually (although not always) means that you'll ovulate within 12-48 hours after a positive. So I'd definitely have sex tonight, as a positive yesterday means you might ovulate today or possibly tomorrow. Unless you have a known male-factor infertility concern (like low sperm count), there's no need to worry about having sex everyday in your FW.

That being said, given that you have irregular cycles already and this is post-loss, there's no way to know for sure that you'll ovulate without temping. It's possible to get multiple surges (can't remember if you have PCOS? Very common there to get multiple positive OPKs a week apart. If you have the cheap OPK strips, I'd recommend monitoring CM and retesting OPKs if you get any other signs of FW after this week. Good luck!!

waitingforblueskies · September 2016

@RiverSong15 Nope, don't have PCOS. I just took another OPK this evening and it was an event fainter negative than this morning. We will BD again tonight and potentially Friday night (of course, DH says that he doesn't mind at all)

Thanks for the advice! I will keep an eye out for CM and try to make myself temp before my 530 wake up starting next cycle.

yolandamunoz · September 2016

Yes, I would also recommend temping. Good luck!

chloe97 · September 2016

DH and I just BD with the intent to TTC for the first time since February. It felt so weird. My OPK was almost positive tonight. We will give it one more go tomorrow and leave it at that. I told DH that this is a practice cycle. I'm sure I will be upset when I get a BFN no matter what.

Aera11 · September 2016

Do any of you feel ovulation twinges on one side but then find out you're releasing from the other side? I'm having strong twinges on my left ovary but yesterday the follicles on that side were much smaller than my right.

SoonToBeMommaHowe · September 2016

Hmm @Aera11 that seems strange. Sorry I can't be of any help since I don't ever have my cycles monitored I don't know which side my follicles are on.

**Dont think this is a TW but just in case**

This is the very first time since DH and I started TTC in Oct '13 that I've seen one of these without medication

EEK!!!!

I confirmed O the last two cycles through temping but we had crap for timing because there was some confusion as to when to start OPKs. I am so excited to see this! Now we might actually be able to give ourselves a legit chance. I got this this morning (I've been testing 3x a day, second morning pee, mid afternoon and early evening) and made DH go in late to work so we could get in an AM BD sesh!

Time to HIO for the next three days

szwill86 · September 2016

@soontobemommahowe wow! That's great news! FX for you!

Aera11 · September 2016

yay @SoonToBeMommaHowe!! crossing everything for you

and yes, I don't know why but one side twinges and the other side produces. Well barely...I am CD14 and only measuring 12mm...sigh

SoonToBeMommaHowe · September 2016

@Aera11 when is your next u/s?? FX for lots of follicle growth between now and then!

chloe97 · September 2016

Yay @SoonToBeMommaHowe! We are cycle twins since I got a positive OPK this morning too!! Fx this is your cycle!

SoonToBeMommaHowe · September 2016

Oh a cycle twin! Yay @chloe97! I'm really trying to remain calm and already telling myself it's ok if this cycle doesn't work. I've made a lot of progress in the last couple months (shortening my cycle by more than two weeks and finally confirming O so we have a chance) and need to focus on that! But I'm sure once we're over in the TWW I'll be dying to POAS

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