Zika Question

jmrsdve · August 2016

I may need to travel to Scottsdale for work in October. I'll be around 23 weeks and should be cleared to fly.

Should I be worried about Zika in AZ? I'm live PA and we haven't had any cases yet (except sexually transmitted I believe).

WinchesterGirl · August 2016

Hi there, there have been several zika threads on this board in the past. If you search zika in the search bar towards the bottom of the page, they should pop right up. Several people shared links to cdc recommendations and other things you may find helpful in planning your travels!

jmrsdve · August 2016

Thanks. I'll have to take a look.

Gingersnap · August 2016

There's this really cool search engine called Google, you should try it!

Xstatic3333 · August 2016

Additionally, this is really a question only your doctor can authoritatively answer. They distill all the research and recommendations and tailor them for patients' specific situations.

jmrsdve · August 2016

Gingersnap said:

There's this really cool search engine called Google, you should try it!

Yes, I'm fully aware. I was just looking for some advice or info from people who live in the area or if it was discussed here recently.

No need to be sarcastic. We are all here cause we are pregnant and sometimes one of us may have a silly question or two.

jmrsdve · August 2016

My next doctors appointment is in a few weeks so I'll just ask then. I'm surprised though that my OB hasn't even mentioned Zika or asked if I traveled to any of the infected areas. Thanks.

expandcontract · August 2016

Isn't Arizona a dry climate? So I would think that there wouldn't be too many mosquitos there. HOWEVER, I would still advice speaking to your doctor. Good luck!

cantalopes24 · August 2016

Wait we can't be sarcastic because we're all pregnant? So can I be sarcastic to non-pregnants, or is my pregnant status what prevents me from being able to be sarcastic? Does being pregnant qualify me to be an expert on Zika?

Gretchypoo · August 2016

cantalopes24 said:

Wait we can't be sarcastic because we're all pregnant? So can I be sarcastic to non-pregnants, or is my pregnant status what prevents me from being able to be sarcastic? Does being pregnant qualify me to be an expert on Zika?

I'm pretty sure being pregnant has made me an expert on everything. listeria, zika, alcohol while pregnant...

cantalopes24 · August 2016

@Gretchypoo good to know. What about the sarcasm? I have questions and OP just left me hanging. She wants us to answer her questions but she won't answer mine. Sad.

Gretchypoo · August 2016

cantalopes24 said:

@Gretchypoo good to know. What about the sarcasm? I have questions and OP just left me hanging. She wants us to answer her questions but she won't answer mine. Sad.

I'm also a sarcasm expert. I am here to answer all your questions. :-)

HeatSparks · August 2016

I live in Arizona and we are offended by this post.

MommaBean · August 2016

I'm so glad I opened this thread

smokey0427 · September 2016

To be honest, I've read a few posts tonight that have totally put me off. I can't believe how cruel some of your comments can be.. and it's consistently the same people. This site should be a source of comfort and guidance for new Moms. They shouldn't have the fear that they'll be bullied or poked fun at. I would expect more support from fellow Mom's to be. It's frankly disappointing to see some of these responses.

StephanieWalstrom · September 2016

@mporath041815, well put! I'm having middle school flashbacks of acne ridden, bratty tweenagers at their all time worse! Grow up ladies. Middle school wasn't fun then and it isn't fun to relive it! If you don't like the thread, don't participate it. I was tested for Zika last week because I conceived in Mexico. Snarky ladies, I have googled the s@*t out of it! I'm a certified Zika expert of sorts at this point! I still would love to talk to ANYONE with a similar experience. I'm a
school teacher and again ladies, the behavior of some of you embarrasses me.

Patience7150 · September 2016

@mporath041815 I know there are other communities (not the bump) out there that are more comforting and supportive and less snark. I personally joined the bump because it makes me laugh when things are miserable and I feel that comfort/support is a little fake/rainbows & unicorns for my taste. No one is forcing you to be here, and I'm sorry the bump wasn't what you hoped for.

smokey0427 · September 2016

@Patience7150 you're very right. No one is forcing me to be here, but luckily most of the Moms-to-be who participate on here have constructive information to share. It's when I see new people come into this group and ask a question, just in turn to be belittled, that I find it to be incredibly inappropriate. Just as I am not forced to be here, you are not forced to participate negatively in a discussion. It's just as easy to skip over the post all together if you find the subject matter annoying!

joyful08 · September 2016

I hear the March 2017 board doesn't allow snark and is all sunshine and unicorns. Maybe try that board? I like snark.

Gretchypoo · September 2016

mporath041815 said:

@Patience7150 you're very right. No one is forcing me to be here, but luckily most of the Moms-to-be who participate on here have constructive information to share. It's when I see new people come into this group and ask a question, just in turn to be belittled, that I find it to be incredibly inappropriate. Just as I am not forced to be here, you are not forced to participate negatively in a discussion. It's just as easy to skip over the post all together if you find the subject matter annoying!

as one of the snarky folks, I get frustrated at the 12,000 zika posts or random thread by people who obviously have not learned about the board, it's structure or what has been discussed. the search function works. so does Google. I think a lot of these posts that get flamed are started by drive by randoms. the people that get flamed and respond well stick around and we're glad to have them.

smokey0427 · September 2016

@joyful08 lucky for me, I'm due in February and not March, so I'll be sticking around with the smart asses. I know many of you take pride in running off people who disagree with your bully behavior, but I'm here to stay.

smokey0427 · September 2016

@Gretchypoo I do understand what you are saying and appreciate your remark. I think we just need to consider that maybe, just maybe, some of these folks are new to the board. 1 comment telling them where to post is appropriate. The next 15 tearing them apart are not.

joyful08 · September 2016

mporath041815 said:

@joyful08 lucky for me, I'm due in February and not March, so I'll be sticking around with the smart asses. I know many of you take pride in running off people who disagree with your bully behavior, but I'm here to stay.

There are people due in February that stay on the March board and vice versa. So no one is forcing you to stay here. Also I do not appreciate you calling me the above bolded word nor do I think you understand the definition of it.

MissMerciBeaucoup · September 2016

mporath041815 I appreciate what you said above. I am new to TB and to this board, I just joined yesterday actually and some of the pile-ons to posts like this one took me by surprise. I tried to read the instructions and intro boards to hopefully get it right - but I guess I better gird my loins just in case.

Starfish113 · September 2016

I agree with gretchypoo that a lot of these posts are drive by randoms. And those frustrate me. If a regular poster made a Zika thread, I *hope* it would be about something related to it that they couldn't find elsewhere. And we wouldn't run them off the board for that. But the randoms are annoying, and there will never be an end to those post and run scenarios.

BumpasaurusRex · September 2016

mporath041815 said:

@Gretchypoo I do understand what you are saying and appreciate your remark. I think we just need to consider that maybe, just maybe, some of these folks are new to the board. 1 comment telling them where to post is appropriate. The next 15 tearing them apart are not.

There is literally a thread pinned at the top of the page for people who are new. You can't miss it.

Its frustrating to 1) be treated like a personal Google and 2) have someone take offense to our responses when they haven't even bothered to become part of the community. The very notion of support and comfort comes with participation, interaction with others, and offering what they also seek in return.

Its rude to presume that just because this is an online forum that the same levels of decorum don't apply. I wouldn't dream of walking up to a group of strange women, asking them a random question, and then wandering off without bothering to introduce myself or try to become part of their own conversation.

There have been been quite a few threads on Zika and if one took the time to do a simple search, they'd probably have the answers/reassurance they are looking for. Not to mention, threads get pushed down the page as new threads appear and someone who is truly in need may have their thread disappear all because people can't be bothered to follow the guidelines for this board.

fourPsinapod · September 2016

Some of you people need some thicker skin. For the love...

Patience7150 · September 2016

mporath041815 said:

@joyful08 lucky for me, I'm due in February and not March, so I'll be sticking around with the smart asses. I know many of you take pride in running off people who disagree with your bully behavior, but I'm here to stay.

Well this just sounds unpleasant for you, but whatever gets your goat in a good way. Please note that the OP admitted to not using the search function and said she started the thread to see if it had been talked about recently. I'm still not certain having fun at someone's expense is belittling or bullying, but okay.

Rereading this thread now still makes me chuckle. Guys, I've got the hang of avoiding booze while pregnant, but still working on the sarcasm. Anyone got any advice??

smokey0427 · September 2016

@BumpasaurusRex check out the Baby Agee post. This newbie wasn't using this group as a personal Google. She was simply an excited new Mom-to-be introducing herself to the group and she was quickly shot down. If I were her, I'd be terrified to say another word in any thread. For that reason, she may never have the opportunity to become part of this "community". Unfortunately, this thread is simply an example of the disappointing behavior being shown on TB. The issue really isn't with the repetitive questions or fly by users, it's with the attitude of those who view responding negatively to posts as a full time job.

fourPsinapod · September 2016

Pointing someone to the direction of the correct thread to intro herself isn't shutting them down.. Also, as spreadsheet keeper myself, I only look at the intro post for new info to add so obviously one reason it needs to be placed there.

Patience7150 · September 2016

Then join a non bump community. They also have great product recommendations and advice, but the bump is by far the snarkiest. Or check out M17...we have a number of J17 here who love the snark and liked it more than their BMB.

@BumpasaurusRex said it correctly - you wouldn't walk up to a group of girls and say "yo, you all interact with each other in a way that is unpleasant for me. You all suck, but I'm not leaving. Change your ways...now!"

WinchesterGirl · September 2016

@mporath041815 It's really unnecessary to classify everyone in Feb '17 as a smarta**. There is a lot of support given and received on this board. As someone who on this exact thread politely directed the OP on how to find more information, I frankly don't appreciate your name calling.

Not to mention it's extremely poor taste to be starting MUD like this when one of our regulars just posted about her loss earlier this afternoon.

fourPsinapod · September 2016

Patience7150 said:

Then join a non bump community. They also have great product recommendations and advice, but the bump is by far the snarkiest. Or check out M17...we have a number of J17 here who love the snark and liked it more than their BMB.

@BumpasaurusRex said it correctly - you wouldn't walk up to a group of girls and say "yo, you all interact with each other in a way that is unpleasant for me. You all suck, but I'm not leaving. Change your ways...now!"

"..ya big bullies!!!!!"

gotta add that to the end.

BumpasaurusRex · September 2016

mporath041815 said:

@BumpasaurusRex check out the Baby Agee post. This newbie wasn't using this group as a personal Google. She was simply an excited new Mom-to-be introducing herself to the group and she was quickly shot down. If I were her, I'd be terrified to say another word in any thread. For that reason, she may never have the opportunity to become part of this "community". Unfortunately, this thread is simply an example of the disappointing behavior being shown on TB. The issue really isn't with the repetitive questions or fly by users, it's with the attitude of those who view responding negatively to posts as a full time job.

And again, there is a thread pinned at the top of the page specifically for introductions. Two posters, in fact, kindly pointed it out for her so she'd be aware of the appropriate place to post. If we all posted threads for our intros, it would be chaos.

I think you see more snark because people who are here very often are simply tired of the repeat posts and complete disregard for the community set in place. No one is responding with the intent of being mean and hurting someone's feelings.

But I mean, at some point our feelings have to count, too, and there's only so many times we can give the same answers over and over again before getting irritated.

PerraSucia · September 2016

A lot of other pregnancy websites are designed like yahoo questions where a bunch of people basically anonymously ask questions that are randomly answered by other anonymous people.

This board is not designed like that. We are the same people coming in everyday and reading all the posts and building relationships positive or negative. When someone random comes in and doesn't bother learning how things are run asking a question that a medical professional or in this case the CDC could answer versus a bunch of random pregnant chicks on the internet it's not that they're new and interested in becoming part of the group, it's that they are treating us like yahoo answers.

Being called a bully for telling someone we aren't experts equipped to answer something they could find themselves is pretty bullshit.

cantalopes24 · September 2016

It's 2016 so I reasonably expect most adults to have a basic understanding of how the internet works. Asking random pregnant people for serious important information is not how life works. There are easily accessible Zika maps and outbreak information that can be located faster than creating an account and posting here. It's not even a subject that you really need to get someone's advice or information about personal experiences about.

I've been here off and on for 6 years. It's always like this, actually it's much tamer now. I will never get the people who come out of nowhere and post for no reason except to complain about the way other people post. So you don't like us joking and being sarcastic but it's ok for you to name call and belittle? Got it.

And for the record I very much enjoyed both middle and high school.

cantalopes24 · September 2016

Actually, fuck that. The fact that I accidentally got pregnant once and then continued to let my husband impregnate me and squeezed out some kids does not obligate me to treat anyone any specific way. And before you come back with something, I'm a great example for my kids because I don't teach them to put themselves in a predetermined box for someone else's comfort.

WinchesterGirl · September 2016

I would also like to point out that the person calling us names for not rallying around this new person with rainbows has not bothered to offer support to our regular who has in fact dealt with a horrible loss today.

Care to comment on that @mporath041815?

Xstatic3333 · September 2016

You ladies rock. That's all I got.

srscott3 · September 2016

I was just thinking the same thing @WinchesterGirl

cantalopes24 · September 2016

@WinchesterGirl I noticed that. Did they even offer anything helpful to the OP on this thread or just continue to derail the thread like they complained everyone else did?

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